Subject: Bob Jusu is Astafulai
From: NEW CITIZEN
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Date Posted: 17:23:03 03/27/07 ()
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Bob Jusus has been exposed. He hides behind the Astafulai handle to insult others. You are a fraud and a thoief. You are so crude and ugly. How is New Zealand?
Subject: IS THIS THE SAME PATRICK MUANA?
From: Astafulai
To: All
Date Posted: 17:12:38 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: bontilaynga@yahoo.com
Entered From: 210-54-200-171.dialup.xtra.co.nz at 210.54.200.171
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I am not sure Patrick Muana is still talking thrash about SLPP having reconstructed and refurnished hospitals. This was the same guy who wrote on Leonenet TAMU that his brother (Dr. Muana of Bo Government hospital) had told him that Pujehun district was well equipped, with every health centre in the district having enough staff and equipments. Three or four days later, Concord Times reported a story in which a member of Parliament (one Kamara) lamented the number of children and pregnant women dying on a daily basis due to lack of medical attention. A week after the Concord Times story, the medical doctor in care of Pujehun hospital was in the news thanking DFID for Le 50 millions, which he said they would use to buy a microscope for the hospital. According to him the hospital does not have a microscope to test for even malaria, which is the greatest killer of children in the country; that people have to be referred to other places for tests.
So what is Patrick Muana talking about?
My advise to Patrick Muana is to keep quiet and wait for JJ Blood to give him the promised position after July elections (that is, if SLPP wins). He does more disservice to SLPP than favours.
Subject: Re: IS THIS THE SAME PATRICK MUANA?
From: Bob Jusu
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Date Posted: 17:21:20 03/27/07 ()
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BOB JUSU,
How is New Zealand? Thanks Kabs and moderator for exposing this idiot by the reappearance of IPs. You are sitting your ass in New Zealand and abusing other people. Ar gedda am well.
Subject: WHAT IS GOING ON BETWEEN NEVILLE & SULAIMAN TEJAN JALLOH?
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 17:01:43 03/27/07 ()
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I have read several articles by Neville making exploisive allegations against Sulaiman Tejan Jalloh.
What the heck is going on? It was stated sometime ago that Neville has written stories in the past, which turned out to be false. Furthermore, he has picked on several people and defamed them for one reason or the other. Is STJ his next victim? Is STJ guilty as charged???
Subject: WHY IS ALIEU ISCANDRI USING SO MANY HANDLES?
From: NEW CITIZEN
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Date Posted: 16:11:37 03/27/07 ()
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Posted by M. Alieu Iscandari Esq [cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198] on March 27, 2007 at 14:31:32:
In Reply to: Re: heres Your answer Independent posted by Independent Man on March 27, 2007 at 14:23:42:
then do just that and you will get an earful.
Posted by Soak lepet [cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198] on March 27, 2007 at 16:06:15:
In Reply to: Re: PATRICK MUANA AND SLPP REFORM GROUP posted by Astafulai on March 27, 2007 at 15:30:32:
Dont sweat yourself PK Muana is another mende boy that speaks out of both sides of his mouth. He is not to be trueted. How can he belong to the reform wing of the oarty but not belong to the party. he is a complete ass hokle along the lines of Sengbe, Knice, John leigh etc
Subject: SLPP TEJAN JALLOH AT IT AGAIN
From: TEE
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Date Posted: 14:50:58 03/27/07 ()
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British High Commission Accused Of Conspiracy
Posted by on Mar 27, 2007, 01:04
The issuing of visas to local nationals is the prerogative of foreign embassies based in the country. A British visa is issued by the High Commission so with other Embassies such as America, Germany and others. Prior to the issuance of a visa, an interview is conducted between the applicant and the consular section where documents are scrutinized and the consular officer is satisfied, a visa will be issued. For government officials applying for visas, documentations have to be prepared by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and forwarded to the Embassy in question. Most time government officials are not interviewed by consuls as documentations are normally accompanied with letters of recommendation from the Foreign Affairs Ministry, thus giving credence to their application forms.
At the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, documents are reportedly forged on behalf of officials of government and presented to the Embassies. Such practice has been ongoing, providing easy travel routes for families and friends of government officials.
Meanwhile allegation of conspiracy has been levied against the British High Commission, Consular section of been in league with certain government officials. How true the allegation is has remained a hard nut to crack for outsiders who are not privy to visa arrangements and procedures at the Commission. It is however reported that the current Sierra Leone Ambassador designate to the United States of America, Lawyer Sulaiman Tejan Jalloh has utilized officials of the Foreign Affairs Ministry who conspired with some officials of the British Consular section to create easy passage for most members of his family under the guise government employees while he was serving as High Commissioner on behalf of Sierra Leone. Having succeeded with this game plan he has initiated the same method with the American Embassy. Just recently names of two female applicants(Rose and Musukula) bearing his family name were submitted to the American Embassy under the pretext of being his relatives with service passports obtained from the Department of Immigration.
Fourteen members of his family are currently working at the High Commission in London and were issued with British visas prior to their departure. Rose Bah his mother-in-law, Salma Bah (sister-in-law), Yassie Jabbie (sister –in-law), Umaru Jabbie(brother-in-law)wife’s brother, Muctarr Jalloh(uncle-in-law) wife’s uncle, Ibrahim Tejan-Jalloh(his brother), Umu Tejan Jalloh(sister-in-law) brother’s wife, Sulaiman Bah (brother-in-law) wife’s brother,Saffie Tejan Jalloh(niece) brother’s daughter, Kadie Tejan-Jalloh(niece) brother’s daughter, Mamadu Jalloh (Driver),Mohammed Turay(Driver) Madam Isatu Sesay(Maid),Ibrahim Bah(brother-in-law) wife’s brother.
What has baffled most people was Ambassador Tejan Jalloh, s biological claim on Rose a student resident at Lungi and Musukula another student of the Njala University College when it is absolutely clear according to family sources at Cline Town that he has five children. The eldest is a female an American Citizen resident with her biological mother in the United States of America. Three of his children were staying with him in London but have been since transferred to America as a result of his new positing. They are Mohammed Tejan Jalloh, Abubakarr Tejan-Jalloh and Umu Hawa Tejan-Jalloh and the fifth child is currently resident in London and has refused relocating to America. “We are blaming the British Consular section for not conducting proper investigations prior to the issuance of visas to these people” a source at the High Commission in London remarked in a telephone conversation with this press, and went on to add, “some of them are not regular workers but receiving salary from our government”.
The American Embassy must be watchful when dealing with names sent to them for visas if not, the likes of Ambassador Tejan Jalloh will penetrate the Embassy easily and get what they want “The Ambassador Jalloh had already commenced the same practice he succeeded with the British” a civil servant echoed.
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Subject: Re: SLPP TEJAN JALLOH AT IT AGAIN
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 15:04:55 03/27/07 ()
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Under the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations (VCCR) 1963 relating to privileges and immunities it will be very difficult for what you proposed to happen. Younhave done Sierra leone a service by exposing STJ's deceit. He will not be stopped by any missions in Sierra leone as he is protected under the VCCR 1963. STJ, please stop your pettiness, you are putting us to shame. You can still help your relatives by following the correct procedures. All these actions will come to haunt you soon. Desist and try to clean up all mess around you. Think of your children and what will become of them tomorrow to know that their father was a cheat.
Subject: PATRICK MUANA DON MEET INN MATCH NA COCORIOKO
From: REVOLUTIONARY SET FIRE
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Date Posted: 14:50:09 03/27/07 ()
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Patrick Munana's load of rubbish has been torn into shreds by the intellectuals on the COCORIOKO forum. Hahahahahaha.
The Bra's writing is full of rubbish. So many unnecessary words used in saying something simple. And guess what? Mohamed Jalloh and other tough men have finished Muana kpata kpata.
Hahahahahahahaha.
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA DON MEET INN MATCH NA COCORIOKO
From: LEONENET
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Date Posted: 15:30:47 03/27/07 ()
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A load of rubbish, it is, for true. I remember when I was at leonenet in 2001. John Musa, the lawyer, called Patrick Muana's article "material fit only for a compost heap!" {that guy Musa knows the English language, believe me)
John Musa was reviewing the load of rubbish about the RUF that Muana wrote together with one other self-described intellectual, a dumb fellow called Ibrahim Abdullah. Thank God for an open forum like Cocorioko --the rubbish these guys write has been exposed agauin today, gbangba oday.
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA AND SLPP REFORM GROUP
From: Astafulai
To: All
Date Posted: 15:30:32 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: bontilaynga@yahoo.com
Entered From: 210-54-68-164.dialup.xtra.co.nz at 210.54.68.164
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Patrick Muana says he is not a member of any political party, but he is a member of SLPP's reform group headed by JJ Blood. May be someone needs to help me differentiate between a member of EKUTAY AND APC. And it sounds more like JB Dauda, Sama Banya, Sheku Sesay, etc, saying they were members of Ekutay and not APC. So Patrick Muana, find another thrash.
On corrutpion, ask JB Dauda to tell who the most corrupt person is in Sierra Leone.
Also thought since Muana was qk to recount SLPP's firsts, he would have had the balls to recount SLPP's lasts.
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA AND SLPP REFORM GROUP
From: Soak lepet
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Date Posted: 16:06:15 03/27/07 ()
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Dont sweat yourself PK Muana is another mende boy that speaks out of both sides of his mouth. He is not to be trueted. How can he belong to the reform wing of the oarty but not belong to the party. he is a complete ass hokle along the lines of Sengbe, Knice, John leigh etc
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA AND SLPP REFORM GROUP
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 17:24:41 03/27/07 ()
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He belongs to the REFORM GROUP, NOT TO THE REFORM WING OF THE SLPP.
Most people in the reform group do not belong to the SLPP, APC, or PMDC (at least not openly).
Stop making wild and nonsensical allegations!!!!!!
Subject: Brazil 1 Ghanoa 0
From: Cornelius
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Date Posted: 14:26:35 03/27/07 ()
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A dream match. Fast and precise passing......
South Africa 2010 it's said the Cup will stay in Africa
Subject: APC PLAYS THE LOSING GAME
From: NEW CITIZEN
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Date Posted: 13:20:48 03/27/07 ()
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APC PLAYS THE LOSING GAME
By I. B. Kargbo
NEW CITIZEN
The All Peoples Congress party, the second oldest political party in Sierra Leone and a party that had actually ruled Sierra Leone for more than two decades is expected to provide an administrative structure that should not exhibit any signs of inexperience in the fight for the attainment of political power.
The All Peoples Congress party is not a small time party for this same party has been recorded as one of the few parties in opposition in Africa that came to power through the ballot box at a time when that party trounced the ruling SLPP at the polls.
But also important is the significant role which the All Peoples Congress party played in pan African politics as the All Peoples Congress party played a major role in the fight against apartheid both in South Africa and in Namibia.
Infact, the All Peoples Congress party produced the leader that became part of the group of African leaders that created the Economic Community of West African States.
The first Leader of the All Peoples Congress party, Siaka Probyn Stevens, has also been recorded as one of the leaders who occupied the position of Chairman of the Organisation of African Unity and Chairman of ECOWAS, no mean achievement in African politics.
It can even be stated that if Sierra Leone is a Republic today, it was the All Peoples Congress party that caused Sierra Leone to metamorphose to a paramilitary system during which the Queen of England was Head of State to a Republican system which allowed a Sierra Leonean President to be Head of State.
For a party that has such history to suddenly begin to fumble because it is in the opposition, exhibiting characteristics and traits of disunity and incapacity to work towards returning to power becomes a very baffling phenomenon, which many followers of the party have found difficult to comprehend.
The feud within the All Peoples Congress party which has suddenly caused the severe renting of the top leadership of the party into two feuding and uncompromising groups has created room for concern for many people, including the international community which has drawn the conclusion that if the main opposition party has found itself in a state of permanent disunity, then the very political future of Sierra Leone can easily be put under a serious question mark.
It can easily be argued that when the problems surrounding the leadership of the All Peoples Congress party started to surface, some people saw this development as an argument based on principles related to honest leadership, but the same observers also believed that the misunderstanding was too minor to be allowed to escalate into a serious problem that can easily undermine the operational activities of the party itself.
Some members of the All Peoples Congress party have declared the top leadership of the party, those on Ernest Koroma side and those on the side of M. L. Bangura and Edward Turay, as a group of greedy people who have infiltrated the political system not to promote the ideology for which the All Peoples Congress party was founded but to seek self-aggrandisement
This position is not restricted to the thinking of just the ordinary followers of the party as even political analysts and other intellectuals cannot fathom how a political party that seeks to take over the leadership of this country can continue to find itself in a state of disarray close to the eve of the very vital presidential and parliamentary elections.
A political scientist said on Friday that, “if I am to vote on Election Day, 28th July 2007, I may find it very difficult to vote for a political party that has lost its bearing and a political party that does not have an accepted leadership.”
The leadership position held by Ernest Bai Koroma has been described in many quarters, including diplomatic houses as legitimate because he presented himself to members of his party during a public Convention where he was elected leader of the party.
A good number of people had assumed that the Convention itself which re-elected Ernest Bai Koroma could have been a good occasion for his political opponents, especially those who hold different ideologies to stand up and challenge the leadership of Ernest Bai Koroma and it would have just been possible, with eloquent argument from an opponent, the scenario would have been different today.
But in the business of providing room for reconciliation in a party that badly needs reconciliation, Ernest Bai Koroma himself should not underestimate the lethal political capacity of people like Hon. Abdul Serry-Kamal, Hon. Dr. Moses Sesay, Hon. Dr. Jengo Stevens, Hon. Edward M. Turay, Hon. Osho Williams and even if as a small timer, M. L. Bangura, to cause havoc that can lower the chances of the APC during the July elections.
This in effect means that Hon. Ernest Bai Koroma should be more than willing to accommodate the views and embrace his opponents in one final effort to bring about peace within the party.
Too many meetings have been held to reconcile the two sides but perhaps, it is now necessary to call a spade a spade and to talk about the political aspirations of the ordinary followers of the party, who are in the majority, to end this bungling game of political destruction.
The members of the public have also angrily described all the feuding factions within the All Peoples Congress party as a bunch of fools who are kicking away the potential for the attainment of power at a time when power is gravitating gradually near the APC house.
Whether the Ernest Koroma group or the M. L. Bangura group understands the need for the party to go to the polls as one cohesive unit, if that party must make any meaningful impact at the polls in July has left many people shaking their heads pitifully.
The fact of the matter is that there are people who hold the view that the efforts of the Founders of the APC, those people like S. I. Koroma, C. A. Kamara-Taylor headed by Siaka Probyn Stevens, people who had the gumption to undertake a project aimed at challenging an incumbent government at the polls must feel very betrayed people today even as they roll in their graves.
The only way by which the present group of people within the APC can save their own names and ensure that history does not judge them violently is for them to work out modalities that will ensure that they come together as one cohesive unit so that they can go to the elections as a united political party.
Except if some people have deliberately infiltrated the All Peoples Congress party to disintegrate it as a deliberate agenda and a well thought out project otherwise, any body who means well for his own political party would wish that close to the elections that party must exhibit characteristics of strength that can make it win the elections.
The efforts of the PPRC at bringing the two feuding factions together can only be described as laudable but of course, more than the PPRC, it is the members of the party themselves, especially those who call themselves the educated elites of the party, who should solve this problem, bring the membership of the party together and stop this nonsense of promoting a culture of disintegration within the APC party.
The ordinary citizen, for want of a better word, now describes the feud within the leadership of the APC as a nonsensical arrangement deliberately created to destroy the political future of the All Peoples Congress party.
Subject: Re: APC PLAYS THE LOSING GAME
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 15:35:17 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
Entered From: adsl-67-125-20-242.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net at 67.125.20.242
Message:
Forumites:
I, Yaya Fanusie declare that I support Ernest Bai Koroma
The leader of the New APC. For the past few months I have been working hard to bring back to the party as many of our Pre-1967 Comrades. I have not been able to persuade the John brothers to rejoin the party but I will continue trying. I believe that the socalled "disunity" within the party is a good political condition for Sierra Leone and Africa. It means that Ernest Bai Koroma would face decisive and potent opposition within and outside the APC should he attempt to abuse authority and power given to him by the July 28, 2007 elections.
Yaya Fanusie,
Member California Chapter of APC
Subject: Re: APC PLAYS THE LOSING GAME
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 16:14:09 03/27/07 ()
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HaHaHaHaHaHaHa
The new APC????? You mean no more KDDA + EKUTAY? You mean no more poverty spreading? You mean no more degradation of infrastructure? You mean no more incompetent leadership?
Tell me, What is so new about "Ernest Koroma's" APC??? It has been alleged that Ernest manipulated the APC constitution? Is that true? If it is what does that say about corruption of APC leaders???
If you people cannot even unite behind one leader, how the hell can you run a country??? Heck, no one is going to let you run the country.
Subject: Re: APC PLAYS THE LOSING GAME
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 16:38:23 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
Entered From: adsl-67-125-20-242.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net at 67.125.20.242
Message:
Independent Man,
The people of Sierra Leone are going to let us run the country because they would vote for us come July 28, 2007.
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: APC PLAYS THE LOSING GAME
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 17:26:56 03/27/07 ()
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What do you take the people for???? Fools????
July 28th will come soon, and we shall see.
Subject: MAKE THIS A DATE AT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY
From: Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS
To: All
Date Posted: 12:23:29 03/27/07 ()
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Subject: AFRICAN ECONOMIC FORUM IV: FRIDAY MARCH 30TH, 2007 (Columbia University)
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Subject: Please allow me to recruit some good students
From: Prof Sengbe Konouwah
To: All
Date Posted: 11:35:19 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.85.62.235
Message:
At the present time, I have had it with Sa Lon politics, so I would like the owners of this site / forum to indulge me in subtending a new angle.
The tangent of this new angle is the recruitment of folks who would like to study for a degree in CHEMISTRY, PHYSICS, and / or PHARMACEUTICAL SCIENCES / PHARMACY in the UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA sytem consisting of SIXTEEN CAMPUSES, at either the undergraduate or graduate level.
I have obtained clearance from the Dean of the School of Mathematics, Science, and Technology to put out this solicitation, and with the consent of the Reverend, the Moderator, and the Forum Police, I would like to specifically recruit intending students from Sa Lon to the campus I am located at in order to major in one of these fields of study.
Currently I am a member of the Department of Chemistry & Physics at ECSU, with affiliations with Georgia Tech, NASA, and NIH/NIEHS. I would like to invite interested parties to peruse our website at:
www.ecsu.edu
in order to familiarize themselves with the programs being offered at this HBCU (it has been in existence since 1891).
In the very near future, a new School of Pharmacy will be completed, and our collaboration with our sister institution - The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - would convert into a stand-alone educational enterprise.
Currently, with this collaboration en vogue, students study the basic sciences within the appropriate departments at ECSU, and the pharmaceutical sciences at UNC-CH's satellite campus at ECSU via DISTANCE LEARNING provided by their SCHOOL of PHARMACY. After two years on the ECSU campus, and having successfully taken the Pharmacy Admission Test, they go to the School of Pharmacy at UNC-CH for three years in order to complete their studies with a degree in Pharmacy.
In about a year or two, our campus would be in a position to independently offer that type of degree in the pharmaceutical sciences / pharmacy. The ground-breaking for the new School of Pharmacy is set to occur in May of this year, and construction would be completed in about a year and a half. The State of NC has already appropriated about $90 million for this project.
Please be reminded that there are only two schools of pharmacy in this state at the present time, and competition to be accepted is very, very keen - only very highly qualified, and motivated students need apply. I believe that I can recruit some of the very best amongst folks who share a common foreigner- background in the Sa Lon community, as well as the African community as a whole. But one must be very dedicated, and perseverant, as the demand for scientists, and pharmacists in our Africa is very highly needed, and financially very rewarding.
Please do not insult me. I am making this presentation to recruit future scientists and pharmacists. If this presentation / solicitation is of no interest to you and yours, just ignore it, and don't respond to it in a negative light. On the other hand if this solicitation is of interest, please take the necessary action by visiting the website I have provided to you.
Right now, I can make NO comments about scholarships, and other financial aid, but the State allows for a certain number of foreign students to ride on in an effort to provide diversification on these campuses. Please check it out if you are interested. You have nothing to lose, but a few minutes of your time. You will have yourself to blame if you pass up on this opportunity.
I thank you kindly.
Prof Sengbe
Subject: Re: Please allow me to recruit some good students
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 16:20:06 03/27/07 ()
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Entered From: new-5000.cadence.com at 158.140.1.25
Message:
Prof.,
This is really good for students back home who are looking for opportunity.
I will pass it along to FBC, Njala, etc. etc. I have no doubt that there are many Sa Lone students who will excel when given the opportunity.
Subject: Re: Please allow me to recruit some good students
From: Waraba
To: All
Date Posted: 16:42:20 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
Entered From: adsl-67-125-20-242.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net at 67.125.20.242
Message:
What happaned to you? Why you did not excel?
That is why you hide. You cyber homeless one. You are fruitless tree.
Waraba
Subject: Re: Please allow me to recruit some good students
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 17:10:58 03/27/07 ()
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Entered From: new-5000.cadence.com at 158.140.1.25
Message:
Waraba,
I am done with school, and I did excel at every level.
I am living a very comfortable life because of my education and I have been fortunate to help a number of my fellow Sierra Leoenanns.
With regard to my not using my real name on this forum, don't interprete it to mean that I am hiding. I am not hiding from anyone. I just like it that way, and there is nothing you can do about it.
Subject: Re: Please allow me to recruit some good students
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 12:26:46 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-1e1271d5.01-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se at 213.113.18.30
Message:
Sorry, your posting remains unread, your first line did not ring sincere.
You relinquish politics? Never! You are SLPP now and ever. A lawyer and a liar are sooner parted. You’ll come back – just an insult will do.
Professor Sengbe, while trying out your new angled line writing, I thought that you could like to try your eyes and ears on this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/poetry/outloud/
Subject: Re: Please allow me ( for Rev Kanu)
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 12:35:22 03/27/07 ()
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Message:
Hopefully the Rev. Kabs Kanu will find Sir John Betjeman's “Diary of a Church Mouse” a welcome distraction from the stresses and mental and emotional strain of reporting Sierra Leone politics to us……
Subject: Re: Please allow me ( for Rev Kanu)
From: A Serious Sierra Leonean
To: All
Date Posted: 13:29:30 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 208.41.8.154
Message:
Cornelius, for the very first time I am having a problem with you. Behave!!! I am finding it very difficulty to see the relationship between what you have written and what the professor posted. This is a very good gesture for many of our folks out there looking for opportunity. I am not a member of SLPP. But I am not sure his SLPP association (if any) should bar him from posting opportunities. Again Cornelius I am having a problem with you for the first time. Behave!!!
Subject: Re: Please allow me ( for Rev Kanu)
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 13:50:29 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-1e1271d5.01-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se at 213.113.18.30
Message:
Primitive man you are not, but, you should look more deeply into you, to find the source of what is your problem.
I was not replying to you, but to the professor as an aside, between him and me, and he has the good humour to understand it. You are not the only free electron who prides himself on being ”a serious Sierra Leonean." Go on then, and let me not deter you or any other from being as serious as you care to be.
Who knows perhaps you will be inspired to think of the Nobel Prize in physics and in Literature where you may enjoy quiet and pensive interlinear reactions, away from all the strain and stress of what Professor Konouwah bemoaned as Salone politics, and all you can find, is a problem with me and my freedom.
You have a problem only with me?
What’s your other issue?
Subject: SALONE'S PULL HIM DOWN SYNDROME: YES, PATRICK MUANA IS SOLID
From: PH.D SYNDROME
To: All
Date Posted: 10:18:23 03/27/07 ()
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Patrick K. Muana
Title: Assistant Professor & Coordinator, Africana Studies
Status: Faculty
Office: 204E Blocker Building
Hours: MWF 2:00-4:00 p.m.
Phone: (979) 458- 3367
Email: TAMU or PKMuana@gmail.com
EDUCATION
Ph.D. University of Sheffield, 1997.
M.A. University of Sheffield, 1993.
B.A. (with Honors in English), Fourah Bay College, 1989.
Department of English Blocker 227I Mailstop 4227 I College Station, TX 77843-4227 I tel. (979) 845-3451 fax. (979) 862-2292
Texas A&M University / College of Liberal Arts webmaster: www@english.tamu.edu website by Emeritus Multimedia.
Subject: Re: MUANA IS PULLING HIMSELF DOWN. HE IS NOT SOLID
From: THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING
To: All
Date Posted: 10:39:16 03/27/07 ()
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No one but Patrick Muana himself wrote the verbose, rambling, ungrammatical piece. So, how can anyone else be "pulling him down?"
You are displaying the same kind of dishonesty that has enabled feeble minded S/Leoneans to be placed in positions back home for which they are demonstrably unqualified -- merely because they claim a Ph.D. or they went to Oxford or Yale University.
Look, here, the proof in always in the pudding, as the English correctly say. That means, if Patrick Muana claims to have a Ph.D. he should DEMONSTRATE that in his writings. Therefore, when the same claimant writes below the level of a high school student, that is PROOF that Muana is unfit to hold a Ph.D.
So, claiming that you have a Ph.D. is NOT a certificate of intelligence. It ONLY certifies that the claimant attended a university (any university) long enough to be allowed to take exams and write a dissertation that meets the standards of that PARTICULAR lecturer at that PARTICULAR university at that PARTICULAR time.
It does NOT mean that Patrick Muana IS NECESSARILY INTELLIGENT -- any more than it means that President George W. Bush is intelligent, just because he attended Harvard University or that he was allowed to obtain an M.B.A.! Indeed, as his sophomoric writing on this forum shows, Patrick Muana is a very writer who clearly needs a lot of help with English grammar.
When will you uninformed, fawning Africans wise up to the fact that a Ph.D. does not certify that the holder is intelligent? Or competent? Or, honest?
Subject: Re: MUANA IS PULLING HIMSELF DOWN. HE IS NOT SOLID
From: NAR TRUE
To: All
Date Posted: 15:18:52 03/27/07 ()
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Nar true. If Mr. Patrick Muana is a Ph.D., he shouldn't have to post his resume to prove it. His article should have spoken for his Ph.D-ness. "A tiger does not boast about its tigritude."
Subject: Re: MUANA IS PULLING HIMSELF DOWN. HE IS NOT SOLID
From: Truth
To: All
Date Posted: 15:30:24 03/27/07 ()
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Message:
Very easy to prove Patrick Muana is a Ph.D holder. Check out the Sheffield University Alumni and you will know. I believe he succeeded in gaining a Ph.D as I know a very good friend of mine who was visiting him at Sheffield. Check link below to confirm. The UK does not joke about passing off as something that you are not - such deceit carries a minimum sentence of one month.
Subject: Re: MUANA IS PULLING HIMSELF DOWN. HE IS NOT SOLID
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 16:47:15 03/27/07 ()
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Indeed,
Subject: Re: MUANA IS PULLING HIMSELF DOWN. HE IS NOT SOLID
From: NAR TRUE
To: All
Date Posted: 15:47:39 03/27/07 ()
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Message:
You are beginning to think like Muana! The question is how can a Ph.D. holder make mistakes of grammar that a high school student would not?
Subject: Re: MUANA IS PULLING HIMSELF DOWN. HE IS NOT SOLID
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 17:09:56 03/27/07 ()
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From the Sermon on the Mount ( Matthew):
“ 1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. 6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.”
Check this link for better understanding, comrade:
http://www.ccel.org/h/henry/mhc2/MHC40007.HTM
It's not only Ph.D. holders who make mistakes (of grammar) that a high school student would not make.
Even if your eyeball has got stuck to the microscopic scrutiny of their most grievous fault, be kind, give the professor of English the benefit of the doubt and forgive him/them their trespasses.
Since it is with the English norms that you are so seriously concerned, here’s a general/preparatory appendix, I hope that this will be of some use :
Subject: Re: MUANA IS PULLING HIMSELF DOWN. HE IS NOT SOLID
From: Cornelius
To: All
Date Posted: 17:04:02 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
From the Sermon on the Mount ( Matthew):
“ 1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. 6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.”
Check this link for better understanding, comrade:
http://www.ccel.org/h/henry/mhc2/MHC40007.HTM
It's not only Ph.D. holders who make mistakes (of grammar) that a high school student would not?
Even if your eyeball has got stuck to the microscopic scrutiny of their most grievous fault, be kind, give the professor of English the benefit of the doubt and forgive him/them their trespasses.
Since it is with the English norms that you are so seriously concerned, here’s a general/preparatory appendix, I hope that this will be of some use and become more familiar
Subject: Re: MUANA IS PULLING HIMSELF DOWN. HE IS NOT SOLID
From: Truth
To: All
Date Posted: 15:59:51 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
So you judging him from what he writes here? Call his Ph.D supervisor and query him. I Know for sure he obtained the qualification. Sheffield university is not that great but the standards are very high when it comes to awarding a Ph.D. I think like anyone when i want to be. i enjoy toying with life as all are stupid. We are nothing a we make out to be better than others. I will give you a secret: trying pretending to be a fool or do not know how to speak or write and you will learn more than you put up the real you. There is so much to learn from being a fool. I can think like you if you want me to. Fools turned clever are dangerous.
Subject: Re: MUANA IS PULLING HIMSELF DOWN. HE IS NOT SOLID
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 15:00:37 03/27/07 ()
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Very personally speaking,I was looking forward to the day when Patrick Muana who is a trained and certified anthroplogoist, would be called up to the Special Court, as an expert on certain aspects of Mende Culture,with regard to the CDF war effort.
I think that his preamble would have gone swimingly along these lines:
Subject: Re: MUANA IS PULLING HIMSELF DOWN. HE IS NOT SOLID
From: Truth
To: All
Date Posted: 14:33:59 03/27/07 ()
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Message:
What do you make of this writing of yours: - "Look, here, the proof in always in the pudding, as the English correctly say. " Was this a typo error or you are poor in writing? Look, my brother, do not judge a man for his wring or artificial inteeligence. natural intelligence surpasses artificial inteeligence. In effect, natural intelligence is the precursor of artificial intelligence.
Subject: Re: MUANA IS PULLING HIMSELF DOWN. HE IS NOT SOLID
From: CORRECTION
To: All
Date Posted: 15:51:33 03/27/07 ()
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Message:
"Was this a typo error or you are poor in writing?"
Did you mean to write: "Was this a typographical error or is it that your writing is poor?"
Subject: Re: MUANA IS PULLING HIMSELF DOWN. HE IS NOT SOLID
From: Truth
To: All
Date Posted: 16:02:34 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Typo error is an abbreviation for typographical error. i try to make my sentences short especially when a message can be understood. Thanks for you correction, I meant to write that way.
Subject: Re: MUANA IS SOLID. STOP THE JEALOUSY, MOH'M JALLOH
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh Detector
To: All
Date Posted: 11:08:17 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
The Proof is in the Pudding/Mohamed A. Jalloh,
When will you stop your jealousy of Ph.Ds? You can't stand Dr. Ed Smith, you have a problem with Dr. Sengbe Konouwah, you have a problem with Dr. Patrick Muana. Bra, you nor go blow? All dem man ya sabi book pass you. U nor go lef dem in peace?
Subject: Re: MUANA IS SOLID. STOP THE JEALOUSY, MOH'M JALLOH
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 11:35:26 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
When did the best of us become the worst among us, and what is all the yippie- yapping about? I did have some hard words for him once, after being informed (it later turned out wrongly) that the Leonenet TAMU was for Mendes and their praise singers only and that entranced was forbidden to me. Just as I had hard words for brother Kenday Kamara when he posted his 50th thesis advocating our re-colonisations, and guess what , it was not the guy who wanted to re-colonise us who got suspended , but yours truly for replying in kind.
Patrick Muana is many times over more than a mere PHD and whatever he writes, and the contents of his thoughts he does express well, although - as in his introduction to Representations of violence in Sierra Leone art, perhaps feeling pressed to show some mettle, in my opinion did come out with a little of the over-kill - that and the thrill of listening to his Sheffield steel accent. You know the stiff upper lip Mende aristocracy Kailahun upper crust breed.
As far as the eye can see (and read) he is running some very interesting courses at Austin.
Now be serious in your estimation of self-esteem. There is Tshala Muana of Congo Democr. and there is
A man may smile and smile and be a
Subject: Re: MUANA IS SOLID. STOP THE JEALOUSY, MOH'M JALLOH
From: NIMNEH BOZIN
To: All
Date Posted: 14:25:05 03/27/07 ()
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Message:
Y A W N..............S O O O O S L E E P Y
Subject: Re: MUANA IS SOLID. STOP THE JEALOUSY, MOH'M JALLOH
From: Cornelius
To: All
Date Posted: 14:49:30 03/27/07 ()
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That's better than saying nothing
Subject: Re: MUANA IS SOLID. STOP THE JEALOUSY, MOH'M JALLOH
From: The ISSUE is Muana's Poor Writing , Not WHO Points it Out
To: All
Date Posted: 11:20:12 03/27/07 ()
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Does showing that someone failed to WRITE correct English proove one is jealous of the gramatically-challeneged writer?
Your problem is that you can not distinguish between a comment on the ISSUE of a person's WRITING and a comment about the person.
As the saying goes, small minds discuss personalities, not ISSUES. One day, you will hopefully enlarge your mind, the better to put you on the road to your first step at discussing issues, instead of personalities: WHO said what about WHOM. Even if true, it's pure idleness from a very small mind.
Subject: Re: MUANA IS SOLID. STOP THE JEALOUSY, MOH'M JALLOH
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 15:22:34 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
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You ask with your incorrect spelling and all:”Does showing that someone failed to WRITE correct English proove one is jealous of the gramatically-challeneged writer?”
Yes, it proves more than jealousy in this case where it is maniac persecution of – let's face it: a man (PK Muana) who is not capable of consciously making any grammatical errors as far as the Queen’s English is concerned. To persist with this matter is utter small-minded childishness, ”pure idleness from a very small mind”, like a nagging old maid making a storm over nothing, in her old China teacup.
Patrick Muana is a many faceted person. Very personally speaking, I was looking forward to the day when Patrick Muana who is a trained and certified anthropologist, would be called up to the Special Court, to give testimony as an expert on certain aspects of Mende Culture, with regard to the CDF war effort.
I think that his preamble would have gone swimmingly along these lines I think that he would have properly demolished Ishtiaq Ahmed’s universalistic position - in the same way that I disagree with Ibn Warraq’s extensive arguments on ethical relativism in his ” Why I am not a Muslim”
It’s difficult to fight bush wars according to Queensbury rules......
Subject: Re: MUANA IS SOLID. STOP THE JEALOUSY, MOH'M JALLOH
From: Soak Lepet
To: All
Date Posted: 16:02:17 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
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"I was looking forward to the day when Patrick Muana who is a trained and certified anthropologist, would be called up to the Special Court, to give testimony as an expert on certain aspects of Mende Culture, with regard to the CDF war effort."
You are not the only one that was looking forward to that. So were the lawyers at the office of the Prosecutor and guess who would have cross examined the rude and mouthy braggart?
Subject: Re: MUANA IS SOLID. STOP THE JEALOUSY, MOH'M JALLOH
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 17:28:26 03/27/07 ()
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His majesty Alieu Iscandari Esq. in person ?
Subject: Re: CORNELIUS: KAPU SENSE, NOR KAPU WORD
From: Talk Sense
To: All
Date Posted: 15:41:56 03/27/07 ()
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I don't think this is a spelling contest. And the man/woman did not say he/she had a Ph.D. in spellling. Muana is the one who told the forum he was an expert in English. So, Connie Craseman, stick to the point, if you can understand what that is, don't become fixated on the personality(ies).
Subject: Re: CORNELIUS: KAPU SENSE, NOR KAPU WORD
From: Cornelius
To: All
Date Posted: 17:31:31 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
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Dr. Muana is a certified professor of English. Why do you find that so difficult to understand?
Subject: Re: SALONE'S PULL HIM DOWN SYNDROME: YES, PATRICK MUANA IS SOLID
From: Bobson Sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 10:27:12 03/27/07 ()
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Message:
Nor men dem. Like someone said earlier.. google de man.. You will find out he is solid..
Subject: JIMMY RESPONSE AGAIN TO Muana
From: TEE
To: All
Date Posted: 10:04:34 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
This insulting piece by Muana is beneath contempt, but let me just say the following and leave it at that:
(1) I don't have a political master, nor have i ever been an opportunist or "batoman" in my life. As much as I have some issues regarding CFM, I'll take him any day over the competition. We plan to hold CFM's feet to the fire and I'll be among the first to call him out if he fails to do right by the people.
(2) I support the PMDC but I am not officially a member (PK obviously does not know what he's talking about).
(3) PK should be advised not to talk about contracts. Berewa was in charge of contracts and according to Val Collier (former ACC commissioner - I interviewed him last year) most of his investigations involving some of these contracts led him to the VP. Val claims he did not "have the balls to go after the VP." He gave me a lot of documents on corruption under the SLPP that I intend to use in a book I'm working on. He also told me that the SLPP tried to prod him to go after Charles but the evidence was lacking. There is no basis to SLPP propaganda about Charles and contracts; otherwise they would have taken him out long ago.
(5) My write-up was not a scholarly piece but an attempt to share my perspective on the forthcoming elections with others at home and in the diaspora. Scholarly pieces are for scholarly journals and most of our compatriots are not scholars. I have received numerous private emails from SLPP types agreeing with much of what I had to say.
(6) My idea of a rogue politician is someone who puts his interest ahead of his country and the SLPP is loaded with such types, from the president down. PK can bury his head in the hand and pretend that all's well under the SLPP because the World Bank says so but some of us see it differently and have a right to dissent.
(7) PK claims I don't know about commissions (ACC) and pieces of legislation (anti-money laundering etc) the SLPP has establisged/passed as if they really amount to anything. "Enabling acts" my foot - It's like saying the AFRC did a swell job fighting corruption because it passed an "Anti-Loooting" decree - we all know better. Commissions and legislation amount to nothing if there is no willingness and commitment to see them work. For anyone to think IBRD officials know more about our country than those residing there (or researching politics in the country) is beyond me. PK must think, like Berewa and co., that our salvation will come from the world bank. He must also think, like Paul Collier, that diamonds were the cause of our conflict, not predatory accumulation. World Bank and IMF? Give me a break?
(8) My predictions regarding the forthcoming elections are based on years of studying elections in SL, with several scholarly articles published (Journal of Modern African Studies, African Studies Review, etc) in this regard. I guess my work on elections in SL does not qualify me to say anything about elections in the country since I am "ignorant" and "dishonest" in the eyes of Pope Patrick.
(9) NACSA ( a state institution, not a party arm) is the SLPP's piggy bank - used extensively by Berewa and co. for campaigning
(10) There is nothing wrong joining a political party or changing party affiliations as long as it is not an act of opportunism.
My advise to PK is not to write about what he does not know. He does not know me (we are not friends) well enough but he has the gall to talk about "size" and "nature" of offer from PMDC, which assumes I am looking for personal gain. I am surprised at PK because I think he should know better than to think I am interested in any position or offer back home, whether from the PMDC, SLPP or APC. I would have joined the caboodle long time ago if personal interest had anything to do with my politics. APC tried to recruit me coming out of graduate school (you can ask AKT), as did Kabba in 1998 but I had no interest then and I have no interest now.
Finally, I do not understand the Mende at the end. My Mende is not that sophisticated.
Subject: JIMMY RESPONSE TO JK
From: TEE
To: All
Date Posted: 10:02:31 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-35-199-175.cable.ubr01.camd.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.199.175
Message:
This insulting piece by Muana is beneath contempt, but let me just say the following and leave it at that:
(1) I don't have a political master, nor have i ever been an opportunist or "batoman" in my life. As much as I have some issues regarding CFM, I'll take him any day over the competition. We plan to hold CFM's feet to the fire and I'll be among the first to call him out if he fails to do right by the people.
(2) I support the PMDC but I am not officially a member (PK obviously does not know what he's talking about).
(3) PK should be advised not to talk about contracts. Berewa was in charge of contracts and according to Val Collier (former ACC commissioner - I interviewed him last year) most of his investigations involving some of these contracts led him to the VP. Val claims he did not "have the balls to go after the VP." He gave me a lot of documents on corruption under the SLPP that I intend to use in a book I'm working on. He also told me that the SLPP tried to prod him to go after Charles but the evidence was lacking. There is no basis to SLPP propaganda about Charles and contracts; otherwise they would have taken him out long ago.
(5) My write-up was not a scholarly piece but an attempt to share my perspective on the forthcoming elections with others at home and in the diaspora. Scholarly pieces are for scholarly journals and most of our compatriots are not scholars. I have received numerous private emails from SLPP types agreeing with much of what I had to say.
(6) My idea of a rogue politician is someone who puts his interest ahead of his country and the SLPP is loaded with such types, from the president down. PK can bury his head in the hand and pretend that all's well under the SLPP because the World Bank says so but some of us see it differently and have a right to dissent.
(7) PK claims I don't know about commissions (ACC) and pieces of legislation (anti-money laundering etc) the SLPP has establisged/passed as if they really amount to anything. "Enabling acts" my foot - It's like saying the AFRC did a swell job fighting corruption because it passed an "Anti-Loooting" decree - we all know better. Commissions and legislation amount to nothing if there is no willingness and commitment to see them work. For anyone to think IBRD officials know more about our country than those residing there (or researching politics in the country) is beyond me. PK must think, like Berewa and co., that our salvation will come from the world bank. He must also think, like Paul Collier, that diamonds were the cause of our conflict, not predatory accumulation. World Bank and IMF? Give me a break?
(8) My predictions regarding the forthcoming elections are based on years of studying elections in SL, with several scholarly articles published (Journal of Modern African Studies, African Studies Review, etc) in this regard. I guess my work on elections in SL does not qualify me to say anything about elections in the country since I am "ignorant" and "dishonest" in the eyes of Pope Patrick.
(9) NACSA ( a state institution, not a party arm) is the SLPP's piggy bank - used extensively by Berewa and co. for campaigning
(10) There is nothing wrong joining a political party or changing party affiliations as long as it is not an act of opportunism.
My advise to PK is not to write about what he does not know. He does not know me (we are not friends) well enough but he has the gall to talk about "size" and "nature" of offer from PMDC, which assumes I am looking for personal gain. I am surprised at PK because I think he should know better than to think I am interested in any position or offer back home, whether from the PMDC, SLPP or APC. I would have joined the caboodle long time ago if personal interest had anything to do with my politics. APC tried to recruit me coming out of graduate school (you can ask AKT), as did Kabba in 1998 but I had no interest then and I have no interest now.
Finally, I do not understand the Mende at the end. My Mende is not that sophisticated.
On Mar 27, 2007, at 2:44 AM, thomas coker wrote:
The Return of the Wild Geese: Outcasts, Pundits, and Pariahs
Patrick K. Muana
Houston, Texas
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Subject: Time to go back under the White Man (Sierra Leone)
From: Bella Barrie
To: All
Date Posted: 09:53:45 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: mbarrie@gmail.com
Entered From: adsl-wan-217-154-29-181.mistral.co.uk at 217.154.29.181
Message:
Is it Time to go back under the White Man (Sierra Leone)?
Sierra Leone has gain independent since 1961, since then, the country has been going down a slope. Did we get independent so soon? Are we not good enough in looking after our own kind? Or shall we say, greed and selfish, which has seen us to be more that a century behind modernisation.
Sierra Leone with a population of less than 5 million can boast of diamonds and other minerals but yet still the population is suffering. Basic necessities (Light, clean water) are more like luxuries.
What do we need to do collectively to improve this nation?
Is it time for us to ‘GO BACK UNDER THE WHITE MAN’? What are they advantages and disadvantages, any suggestions are welcome.
From
Mohamed Bella Barrie
Subject: ERNEST KOROMA WILL TAKE OUT THE FRUSTRATION FROM YOU BELLA.
From: JUSTICE
To: All
Date Posted: 11:51:10 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Bella, I can understand not only your frustration, but the frustrations of many other Sierraleoneans.
You are right. Not much was achieved since independence. There have been many ups and downs sice that time.
But, lets face facts. All the governments since independence have done a vry good job during their times except for the present SLPP government who did things to send us in the days before the DARK AGES.
Just imagine , for two decades now the SLPP cannot provide the people of Sierra Leone with the basic necessities for human life.
WATER, FOOD, ELECTRICITY, HOUSING to name a few are catastrophic.
So, I see your frustrations and the frustrations of many other Sierraleoneans. If you see someone asking for the come back of the WHITE MAN. it tells you that things have not only gone bad, but the people are hopeless and looking for a saviour. To live under the present conditions in Sierra Leone is a misery. Everybody knows now. It is no more a secret.
The WHITE MAN is not always right or honest as we use to understand.
They also have CORRUPT people in their societies. There are Sierraleoneans who are honest and can satisfy the ailing needs of the people of Sierra Leone. One such person is ERNEST KOROMA. So, forget about about the WHITE MAN. TRUST in ERNEST KOROMA.
The SAVIOUR is coming.on JULY 28.
My brother vote THE NEW APC of ERNEST KOROMA on JULY 28.
That is the only way out of this mess. You will never regret voting for this man. ERNEST KOROMA has a very clean record both at home and in the international circles. We like to hear messages from people like you. Be rest assured that your message will not only stay on this forum, but the PRESIDENT ERNEST KOROMA will be informed.
So tell the good news to all your families and friends that HOPE is on the way. Let them don't loose hope.
Let then just do one simple thing on JULY 28 and that is as everybody knows;
VOTE FOR HOPE
VOTE ERNEST KOROMA.
VOTE APC.
Subject: For the attention of Alieu Iscandari Esq. Dr. Yaya Fanusie
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 08:23:20 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
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For the attention of Alieu Iscandari Esq. and Dr. Yaya Fanusie.
There is a problem that looms large and that the PMDC faces and cannot avoid.
A big problem, from the almost fanatical point of view of those die-hard ethnically Southern based SLPP who got the SLPP with their mothers milk, many of whom Hon. Charles St. Francis Margai may have succeeded in wooing from the parent Palm Tree – all facilitated by the ill wind of discontent blowing throughout the land from the grass roots level, past the reek and stench of downtown garbage fumes, all the way up and now insistently knocking at the front door of Hill Station : The problem is as follows and it makes SLPP Palm Tree -men –turned -PMDC think twice about the alternative looming on the horizon when the polling booths close of July 28th and it’s said that all things are possible, even this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6497389.stm
And for the die-hards, Alieu, that is the problem: Neither Mr. Margai nor APC’s Mr. Ernest Koroma can make it alone. To govern, my prognosis is that they will have to enter into a conjugal embrace, an alliance (as in Sweden) or enter into a coalition. That would help avoid a repeat of 1967 – as to who was more capable of commanding a parliamentary majority, with four independents not clearly declared for either the APC or the SLPP)
Can you see that as the only eventuality that the SLPP with all its superior mobility and organisation does not get more than 50% of the vote?
There are those of the PMDC persuasion who would gladly like to tote St. Francis in a victory hammock, all the way up to Hill Station but who (better judgment, once bitten twice shy) would not like him to share this POWER – and repeating popular prejudice here) since APC has been known to indiscriminately hang those with whom it disagrees, including their own ministers and force commanders for not toeing the APC line, suitably.
So, you who are in the inner circles of the New APC, could you please tell us whether the APC is going to announce its intention to make an alliance with the PMDC or is that only likely after the elections? (I can’t envisage PMDC staying on as the main opposition party, and the party might well disappear should it receive a trouncing by the people.
My prognosis today is that
PMDC will get 17% of the vote
APC 37 %
How much does that leave the SLPP?
Subject: Re: For the attention of Alieu Iscandari Esq. Dr. Yaya Fanusie
From: Cornelius
To: All
Date Posted: 08:29:41 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
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Mr. Admin why is the following attached to my name but not to the others who post?
[c-1e1271d5.01-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se at 213.113.18.30]
Subject: Hill Side Road Beneficiaries Collect Le3 billion
From: Hill Side
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Date Posted: 06:07:08 03/27/07 ()
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Hill Side Road Beneficiaries Collect Le3 billion
Posted by Mohamed Issa on Mar 27, 2007, 00:55
Over one thousand beneficiaries of the Hill Side Bye-Pass Road project to be implemented by Sierra Leone Roads Authority (SLRA) have on Friday 23rd March 2007 benefited in compensation returns Le 3 Billion worth of money by government plus two plots of land each at Yams Farm.
The ceremony which was graced by MPs Manso Dumbuya and others representing their affected constituencies, was also graced by the Temne tribal head Alhaji King Kandeh, chiefs and legal luminary Lahai Momoh.
The exercise did not actually paid for the face value of the properties of owners according to Hon. Manso Dumbuya while speaking to the victims, but compensating them. Pleas to the people to accept government’s offer for the development of the country was appealed by the MP.
The mode of payment was cheques issued in accordance with the value of the property. Recipients were divided on the issue as some accepted the offer and others refused saying they would be considering a second thought today when they will finally make up their minds.
A beneficiary, Mohamed Kalokoh expressed gratitude to government for compensating him for his house and providing him with two plots of land. In a jubilant mood, he said “I am happy because it is for the development in our country.”
Similar views were also expressed by others who said “Only a fool can challenge government decision especially in a venture like this, because there is no way one can resist what is good for the entire nation”.
Reacting to the peoples appreciation, SLRA General Manager Alhaji Ishmael Kebbay told them about government’s ultimatum for the project to be handed over to the contractor on March ending and urged residents to hurriedly meet to the demands.
“People should realize that a good road is one of the strongest pillars for development in this country which is the primary focus of SLRA and I guess all patriotic citizens, need to sacrifice for the progress of our country.” Mr. Kebbay stated.
Subject: Re: Hill Side Road Beneficiaries Collect Le3 billion
From: Truth
To: All
Date Posted: 15:37:35 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-138-214-249.range86-138.btcentralplus.com at 86.138.214.249
Message:
Someone had to pay a heavy prize (death) for us to reach this stage of civilisation. He became a pawn as he forgot to search his conscience and went on to demolish peoples houses. No offer of compensation was put to the owners and he had to die a violent death. may his sould rest in peace. his death has brought laughter to many who are now in the same boat before his death. What was his name? Anyone knows?
Subject: Re: Hill Side Road Beneficiaries Collect Le3 billion
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 08:44:16 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: new-5000.cadence.com at 158.140.1.25
Message:
These are indeed not APC Times. The APC would have kicked out the tenants and land owners without giving them compensation, or at best would have given them chicken change.
Subject: Re: Hill Side Road Beneficiaries Collect Le3 billion
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 09:53:20 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: spider-dtc-te043.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.114.23
Message:
just like the SLPP has kicked the people of Kono out of their homes and givenm them NOTHING. Given their land to foreigners to mine and give us 5% of the value of what they get and leave the country with our people HOMELESS in their own country.
Subject: Re: Hill Side Road Beneficiaries Collect Le3 billion
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 11:13:34 03/27/07 ()
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Alieu,
Please provide more information on this allegation. I must admit that I have no knowledge of it. Furthermore, I have not seen it in any newspapers. It will be a damn shame if it is true and those responsible (SLPP) must be given hell for it. What is even worse is there has been no outrage about it (again if it is true)
Again, please provide me more material on this and I will surely raise hell about it.
Subject: YES, THE RICH BECOMES RICHER. NO CONTACT, NO HELP. WAY KONO?
From: JUSTICE
To: All
Date Posted: 11:08:32 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip565bc167.direct-adsl.nl at 86.91.193.103
Message:
The SLPP is just showing their nakedness again.
They only consider the RICH. The poor are oursiders.
99% of the landowners of HILL SIDE ARE RICH. A poor man will never buy a land in those areas.
It is good news now for them because they will be relocated to another area and get money to build BOYS QUATERS for their girl friends.
If the SLPP really wants to show that they can help people by compensating them and relocating them to safe places, then they should begin in KONO. KONO DFISTRICT is filled with holes caused by mining companies whose SHARE HOLDERS are BUG GUNS in the SLPP.
The Hill Side Road relocat1on will not do the SLPP any good.
Infact it will make other people with such problems especially the KONO'S to be very angry.
That is why we are asking all Sierraleoneans to vote for THE NEW APC. The NEW APC under the LEADERSHIP of ERNEST KOROMA will lead Sierra Leone to higher heights and fairness.
A CENSUS is now going on in KONO as we write to see the problems they are encountering especially on DEFORESTATION caused by both the MINING COMPANIES and ILLICIT MINING.
The NEW APC is busy preparing a PACKAGE for them that will be their solutiion.
So, ledies and gentlemen, lets help the POOR than satisfying the RICH.
VOTE APC ON JULY 28.
GOD BLESS.
Subject: Re: YES, THE RICH BECOMES RICHER. NO CONTACT, NO HELP. WAY KONO?
From: Olu Beckley
To: All
Date Posted: 11:21:10 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: mariamab@aol.com
Entered From: at 206.113.148.2
Message:
Justice, your twist to this story makes so much sense. Cheques issued to the front men who are custodians of the lands on the hillside end up in the pockets of the land grabbers.
This is all part of the development politricks. It's like giving double portion to cabal members for inside trading of knowledge that the new road traverses the land in question; use the state machinery to allocate the land to themselves and then collect compensation and 2 additional plots. Another Beoku Betts type commission is imminent.
Subject: Re: Hill Side Road Beneficiaries Collect Le3 billion
From: Olu Beckley
To: All
Date Posted: 10:46:33 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: mariamab@aol.com
Entered From: at 206.113.148.2
Message:
It is patriotic to sacrifice ones home and maybe the only family asset for national development, provided you are adequately compensated. Our public servants and Members of Parliament who are asking the common people to sacrifice in the interest of national development should teach by example.
Le. 3 billion and two plots of land ( 75’X50’ per plot i.e. approximately 20 acres of land) at yams farm, works out at approximately $12,000 per beneficiary. The acceptance of the compensation represents full and final settlement of all claims relating to the properties in question. $12,000 might be considered a lot of money, and may be considered fair compensation.
The question to be considered is would the families be able to provide the same type of accommodation for themselves with the compensation offered by SLRA? Construction costs have jumped astronomically and at today’s prices, building anything will cost a fortune. So is the compensation adequate to restitute the families to the positions they were before the acquisition? We also hope that the amount paid out represents the total compensation provided for as a budget line item in the contract documents for the road construction.
The Town and Country Planning Act provides for the payment of adequate compensation when private property is compulsorily acquired. What we do not know is whether the compensation paid to the beneficiaries represents the fair market value (Fair market value (FMV) is the price that property would sell for on the open market; that price that would be agreed on between a willing buyer and a willing seller, with neither being required to act, and both having reasonable knowledge of the relevant facts); and whether the compensation covers both the value of the land compulsorily acquired and all developments thereon.
I also presume the compensation represents the valuation done by the government and not private real estate appraisers. What would seem reasonable in such a case is for the use of the replacement cost appraisal method, which determines what it would cost to provide the same type of accommodation in that particular locat1on, assuming development is undertaken today and value adjusted for depreciation and obsolescence.
It is also important that the beneficiaries were not taken advantage of in the process and that their legal rights of contesting the compensation offered and their rights to refer the matter to a court for adjudication on the adequacy of the compensation paid was explained to them. Legal and private appraiser advice could if requested and provided, could considerably enable the property owners negotiate for better property values. We only hope that the beneficiaries had access to legal counsel when the order to acquire was originally issued. The courts can review the level of compensation on request if the affected families refuse or ignore the offer. Then either SLRA or the families may apply to the Court for the determination of the final compensation, which could be time consuming.
Is this a take it or leave it offer; another forced eviction attempt. Let us see how this plays out as most families rejected the paltry payments made out to them. Is this coercing, or another Mugabe pattern of land confiscation? Let the people decide. “Although the judiciary and legislature define the limits of state powers, such as eminent domain, the ultimate guardians of the people's rights, in these cases, are the people themselves.”
Subject: Re: Hill Side Road Beneficiaries Collect Le3 billion
From: CADMUS
To: All
Date Posted: 10:25:12 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 82.198.250.71
Message:
Alieu
I am confused...I thought the people of Hill side Road were just moved to another part of town, They have been handsomely compensated foe their troubles, no one is left homeless......That is what civilized governments do for their people.That is what SLPP DO.
I do agree with you, though, about the KONO situation, That is unacceptable on all accounts. I am reliably advised that 'President Berewa' will look at the those situations again.
Subject: Re: heres Your answer Independent
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 13:27:45 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
"I do agree with you, though, about the KONO situation, That is unacceptable on all accounts"
Subject: Re: heres Your answer Independent
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 14:23:42 03/27/07 ()
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Message:
I asked for evidence and more info and you give me the response of an SLPP disciple. How does that answer my question?????
I plan to contact the Kono Chief and parliamentarians from that area to find out what the hell is going on...
This is my new cause...
Subject: Re: heres Your answer Independent
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 14:31:32 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
then do just that and you will get an earful.
Subject: NEW CITIZEN NOW ONLINE
From: NEW CITIZEN
To: All
Date Posted: 05:12:05 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ac202-050.resnet.stonybrook.edu at 130.245.202.50
Message:
New Citizen is now online. Awoko is also back after some technical problems.
Subject: PRESS FREEDOM, THAT IS WHAT WE WANT.
From: JUSTICE
To: All
Date Posted: 06:17:11 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip565bc167.direct-adsl.nl at 86.91.193.103
Message:
What a good website. I hope you will not get into trouble with the enemies of freedom.
Take care.
GOOD LUCK NEW CITIZEN
Subject: SLPP'S Deception and lies. PETROL is LE 14,000 per Gallon.
From: patriot
To: All
Date Posted: 03:52:09 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: firewall.drenthecollege.nl at 195.169.155.126
Message:
My brothers and sisters, our country is not the way we are expecting to look like or be. Things are very hard on the people and they are looking for a saviour to take them out of their misery.
Here is what one international ANALYST who was recently from freetown observed.
I quote,
"I was amazed at the rapid deterioration of our infrastructures the last 2 years.
Sierra Leone is crying like an abandoned baby in the middle of nowhere and none of us seem to care.
We missed the only ferry to carry passengers to Freetown because the President, Dr.Ahmad Tejan Kabbah, who had just returned from Ghana , and his motorcade were using it to get to the capital. We had to wait for 4 hours
A gallon of patrol was approximately Le. 14,000.00 which is almost $4.00 per gallon.
This is a country where the average monthly income is less than $100.00.
As for the election, the SLPP still thinks the people of Sierra Leone are dummies and we can be fooled with $150,000.00 micro credit, thanks to the Cooperative Development Bank and the IMF.
As for Berewa, his definition and clarification of a benevolent dictator was sending 24 people to their deaths without the due process of the law."
Who is going to be this saviour. The people of Sierra Leone are looking for change.
As far as I am concerned, the SLPP is out as saviour because the people want change.
They are now camouflaging BEREWA because most of them dont want to llose their jodbs or be intimidateb.
But really, SLPP has failed the people of Sierra Leone.
The big question now is, why did TEJAN KABBA and JOHN JANNAH not work together to save Sierra Leone?
Was it because JOHN JONNAH saw the failure ahead?
Subject: PETROL LE 14,000, A BAG OF RICE FOR THE RICH? NO. VOTE APC!
From: JUSTICE
To: All
Date Posted: 09:37:25 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip565bc167.direct-adsl.nl at 86.91.193.103
Message:
Thank you very much for your article. It's good for us to be informed of what is really happening in our beloved Sierra Leone.
You are a real PATRIOT.
Just see what the SLPP did a few months ago. Street lights were turned on as if it will remain for ever. Now the streets are again darker that the word itself. Dare you call in Sierra Leone today, then you will hear in the backgroung and I quote;
"NA ME DAY FIRST OH. ONE WEEK NOW WE NOH GET WATER NA OOSE.
BO PULL YOU BOKIT BA.
YOU SEE WAY YOU SLAP ME EHN?
BO PUSH!
AH NOH DAY PUSH.
ALRIGHT NOBODY NO DAY GET WATER NOW.
POMP LOCK says some one practicing the dictatorship style of the SLPP"
What you hear in the background is people fighting for dirty water.
You go to the market is the same thing. RICE and the BASIC NECESITIES. People just manage to survive.
How on earth can people sit down for two decades and forget their people in such a disastrous manner.
The problem with the SLPP was that the failed to know that the average Sierraleonean is no longer ready to accept lies. They want to see things practically happen and not empty promises.
Before the 2002 elections, the SLPP promised all sorts of golden things for the people of Sierra Leone. The only thing that materialised is to go on BIG CONFERENCES along BIG MOTORCADES blocking the streets for hours on END.
SLPP, NA DEN DAT. ENJOYMENT, NA IM DEN SABI.
Also, to smuggle children overseas through some of their so called AMBASSADORS to come and CLAIM CHILD BENEFITS.
ARE SIERRA LEONE'S EMBASSIES OVERSEAS NOW BUSINESS HOUSES FOR TRAFFICKING CHILDREN TO CLAIM CHILD BENEFITS?
ARE WE RIGHT TO CALL Mr. JALLOH THE SENIOR EMBASSY TRADER?
What a shame all those smering the name of Sierra Leone through corruption. The SLPP has done many bad things that if we want to write it now, historians will later have problems to understand them.
Wives and girlfriends are smuggling diamonds every time to sell in EUROPE and the AMERICAS.
For all the above and more to come, lets vote THE NEW APC on JULY 28. That is the only way out. SLPP has failed the nation as a whole. From EAST TO WEST and from NORTH TO SOUTH.
My dear brothers and sisters, the present problem is not MENDE, LIMBA, TEMENE. KRIO, KONO to name a few. It is a national problem. This problem has to be solved and the SOLUTION will not come from the SLPP. The SLPP as far as Sierra Leone's DEVELPOMENT is concerned is like CANCER. CANCER can not heal. The medication given is only to calm it for a certain but it will grow until you die.
So, the best thing is for the patient to die. In this case the SLPP. As long as the SLPP stays, Sierra Leone will never be developed. The country will just be submerged into total chaos. People will be hungry and their status will be degrading. Kick them out on JULY 28.
Remember that a hungry man is an angry man. We don't want Sierra Leone to reach a position of no return. So, I think the voters will listen to our calls and vote ERNEST KOROMA on JULY 28.
ERNEST KOROMA'S election will be seen as welcome both nationally and internationally. A man of credibilyty is what the international community is looking for and not people whose names have been linked with the biggest CORRUPTION SCANDAL in Sierra LEONE'S history. We als donot want further execution of people without trials.
I urge all Sierraleoneans to vote for what the COAT OF ARMS OF SIERRA LEONE STANDS for; UNITY - FREEDOM - AND JUSTICE.
If you vote APC on JULY 28,
YOU are voting for unity, freedom and justice of Sierra Leone.
VOTE FOR UNITY
VOTE FOR FREEDOM
VOTE FOR JUSTICE(otherwise another 24 will be sentenced to death)
VOTE ERNEST KOROMA
VOTE APC ON JULY 28 2007.
AMEN AND GOD BLESS!
Subject: Re: SLPP'S Deception and lies. PETROL is LE 14,000 per Gallon.
From: DBK
To: All
Date Posted: 07:05:25 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 67.63.2.157
Message:
Who is John Jannah? Do you mean James Jonnah.. You and your international analyst..
Subject: ALLEGED RIGGING OF THE SURVEY - SHAME ON YOU
From: Albert Moinina
To: All
Date Posted: 02:59:07 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 218.248.0.180
Message:
IF PEOPLE ACTUALLY RIGGED THE SIMPLE SURVEY THAT WAS CONDUCTED, THEN I DENOUNCE IT SUCH PRACTICE. SHAME ON YOU IF THE ALLEGATION IS TRUE. HOW DO YOU EXPECT SIERRA LEONE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SUCH CORRUPT PRACTICE. SHAME ON YOU, SHAME ON YOU AND I WILL SAY IT ONE MILLION TIMES.
Subject: ALBERT, YOU ARE NOT A GOOD ELECTORAL COMMISSIONER. SORRY?
From: JUSTICE
To: All
Date Posted: 06:09:44 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip565bc167.direct-adsl.nl at 86.91.193.103
Message:
Albert, you have too little too late to appease some of us.
You were warned before even declaring on this forum that SLPP has won the online SURVEY.
But now, you prove to be some what conroversial by asking for more time for the SURVEY.
I donot think anybody will listen because what ever the outcome, SLPP is going to win. You should be carefull when you do business with present day SLPP. They are crooks.
This is not the SLPP of Sir Milton or Sir Abert Margai. It is the SLPP of I quote "BO YOUSEF CAN EAT YOU YONE OH". They always believe in diverting any good thing for the worst. Just see.
GOOD LUCK, Albert with the so called SLPP rigged SURVEY.
Subject: Re: ALBERT, YOU ARE NOT A GOOD ELECTORAL COMMISSIONER. SORRY?
From: Albert Moinina
To: All
Date Posted: 06:35:14 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 218.248.0.180
Message:
JUSTICE,
Take it cool my good friend. You see, at the end of this day this exercise simply shows how crooked people are bent on imposing their crooks on us. THIS SHOULD BE AN al3rt FOR THE BIG DAY. Smile man. I was disappointed that PMDC people did not participate that much. This is not the real thing man, we all know that. The battle continues.
I hope you will understand. Take care and don't be hard on yourself. Bra leh we go drink binto en forget but the rigged survey.
Subject: THANK YOU TOO ALBERT. FREE ELECTIONS WILL PREVAIL ON JULY 28
From: JUSTICE
To: All
Date Posted: 06:42:05 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip565bc167.direct-adsl.nl at 86.91.193.103
Message:
THANKS ALBERT. A FREE AND DEMOCRATIC ELECTION WILL PREVAIL ON JULY 28 2007.
AMEN, AMEN, FATHER GOD.
Subject: Re: THANK YOU TOO ALBERT. FREE ELECTIONS WILL PREVAIL ON JULY 28
From: Albert Moinina
To: All
Date Posted: 06:45:46 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 218.248.0.180
Message:
Man that's the spirit. So how was the binto? Haha Joking my friend you got the spirit.
Subject: Re: ALBERT, YOU ARE NOT A GOOD ELECTORAL COMMISSIONER. SORRY?
From: NAR U SABI
To: All
Date Posted: 06:34:56 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-153-193-2.range81-153.btcentralplus.com at 81.153.193.2
Message:
NAR U SABI
Subject: NA DEN SABI AY!
From: JUSTICE
To: All
Date Posted: 06:44:28 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip565bc167.direct-adsl.nl at 86.91.193.103
Message:
NA TRUE OH ME MAN.
NA DEN SABIE AY.
GOOD BLESS YAH!
Subject: Is John Leigh Dishonest or just Plain Stupid?
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 02:36:03 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
Entered From: adsl-67-125-21-230.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net at 67.125.21.230
Message:
Forumites:
John Leigh stated in some past posting of his that yes he condemned President Kabbah in the past but that has nothing to do with his current support of Berewa. He argued that it was Kabbah Administration he condemned but that Berewa is going to have his own regime and that regime is not the same as Kabbah's.
Mr. John Leigh, please explain the ministerial concept of Collective Responsibility?
Look just explain it and them I will jump in later.
For now just explain the concept of Colledctive Responsibility?
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: Is John Leigh Dishonest or just Plain Stupid?
From: boli
To: All
Date Posted: 09:49:51 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: boli@yahoo.com
Entered From: 80-47-225-56.lond-th.dynamic.dial.as9105.com at 80.47.225.56
Message:
The man is completely dishonest. He is looking to recoup some (sorry, all) of his losses. He is one of these people who make friends for what he can gain in return. He is also plain stupid. Judging from the results of his failed leadership challenge, he cannot or refuses to judge people correctly.
He, as far as I am concerned, is a failed diplomat and a liar. I was present in a meeting of the Albert Academy Old Boys Association when he told a blatant lie, that the US branch of the AA would be pledging close to a million dollars towards the rebuilding and renovation of the school.
I will not trust him with a snake let alone a constituency.
John, take the hint....LEF POLITICS, Ee nor fit you
Subject: Re: Is John Leigh Dishonest or just Plain Stupid?
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 10:22:45 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: spider-dtc-ta104.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.112.54
Message:
You are a disgusting liar. You are merely disappointed because PMDC is not for me and because it won't ever get off the ground without genuine Third Force types.
You know little about Albert Academy Old Boys, you liar. -JL
Subject: Re: Is John Leigh Dishonest or just Plain Stupid?
From: Truth
To: All
Date Posted: 15:20:29 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-138-214-249.range86-138.btcentralplus.com at 86.138.214.249
Message:
Mr. Leigh, admit that you did mention the 1 million donation at the meeting. my brother was there. Politicians do it and that is why everybody should understand that the words of any politician are not to be trusted. They are full of empty promises - not because they do not want to do it but because they cannot. Some, like our novice pseudo-politician, Mr. Leigh, is only blowing the trumpet that was bought for him. He has no authority nor credibility to influence decisions in a sphere of the current strands in our offices. He spends his hard earned money to do that; they take and then ignore him. How painful!!
Subject: Re: Is John Leigh Dishonest or just Plain Stupid?
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 18:03:05 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Winston True PMDC Kabia:
You fellows are running out of ammunition and thus acting as desperados. For years, fulumunkus like you and your Mr. boli have sought to tag me with this or that charge only to discover that you are liars looking for straws.
Here now is yet another case in point.
This is the untrue allegation by your Mr. boli against me in today’s forum posting which you have written to back up:
BOLI: "I was present in a meeting of the Albert Academy Old Boys Association when he [JL] told a blatant lie, that the US branch of the AA would be pledging close to a million dollars towards the rebuilding and renovation of the school."
Boli is either a deliberate liar or he has a very poor comprehension of the official language of his own country, even though he spent time in England. Yet he wants to take part and be influential in the public affairs of SLeone. He ought to first improve upon his deficient inadequacies.
If his comprehension was at par when I spoke to ex-Academicians in London several years ago, he would have understood that I said that the Albert Academy Alumni Association in the US has set up an Endowment Fund to support their alma mater in Freetown and that the target is to raise up to $1 million.
Now “pledging close to a million dollars” is vastly different from what I said: setting a target to raise $1 million to help Albert Academy. Further, I never spoke about “rebuilding and renovation of the school" as claimed by boli. I spoke about our contributions going to help with the boarding home construction, scholarships for pupils and bonus for teachers, etc.
I am the chair of Endowment Fund. So I know what I spoke about. The fact that such an amount is beyond the comprehension of those of you in England, does not mean that USA-based AAAs cannot think along those lines.
True PMDC Kabia’s request that I “admit that you [I]did mention the 1 million donation”, cannot help matters. First, no donation of $1 million was ever mentioned. What I spoke about was an aspiration, not a donation. Secondly, my merely admitting that I mentioned $1 million as you have requested cannot do justice to what exactly transpired at the said meeting.
Your standard of comprehension is much too low and your argumentation is dunce-like. You think public service is child’s play for tombo-dumbas like you.
Pleased get yourself properly trained and experienced before you set foot in Sierra Leone to participate in the productive life of our country. Otherwise, you will be adding to our country’s huge problem of people who have spent time overseas, returned home with much expected of them only to demonstrate that they are mere flunkies and remedials - and arrogant at that.
Finally, what has my conversation with fellow old Academicians years ago in London about the establishment of the AAAA Endowment Fund in the US got to do with the forthcoming presidential elections in Sierra Leone?
Your reliance on irrelevancies in support of your dunce argumentation shows that you are wholly lacking in substance, you moron! Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: Is John Leigh Dishonest or just Plain Stupid?
From: boli
To: All
Date Posted: 11:46:30 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: boli@yahoo.com
Entered From: 80-47-225-56.lond-th.dynamic.dial.as9105.com at 80.47.225.56
Message:
'You are a disgusting liar'......this is the language of a so-called seasoned diplomat. I am sure there were other people in the meeting. Anyway the fact is that you will never be elected to the executive of any club, let alone a political party. What ministry are you looking to head? Foreign Affairs? God help us all if that happens.
As long as there are good and sensible people in Sierra Leone, the likes of you will never be elected into any sort of public office. PMDC? I have no dealings with PMDC, SLPP, APC or any politcal party in Sierra Leone. When the time comes to vote, I will do so with my conscience. And if your are a member of any of these parties, I would rather 'spoil' my vote. I might be a disgusting liar, but you lied to yourself by putting yourself up for office. How many votes did you get.......hahahaha.
Take suru Mr former Ambassador
Subject: Re: Is John Leigh Dishonest or just Plain Stupid?
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 09:03:24 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Dr. Fanusi:
Please don't get carried away. The issue is not Plain Stupidity as you have alleged The fact is, Sierra Leone is not Europe or America. We Africans do things differently.
In Africa, only one afro man is always in charge.
Did any of Siaka Stevens' ministers ever engaged in any collective-responsibility idle talk? In fact, were not this APC president's two most decent ministers (Dr. Mohammed Forna & Ibrahim Tarqui) executed because they stood their ground on matters of principle?
Did not APC's President-General Momoh had his VP executed because of mere political differences?
How about VPs/ministers under Idi Amin late of Uganda? Bokassa? Etc., etc.? Did any of those escape alive or in freedom?
Which VP or minister is standing up today to the big man in Zimbabwe?
Are you aware of the situation between the president and his VP in Abuja today?
How many people have been expelled from the Kabbah Administration because of their fidelity to democratic, good governance principles?
Doc, please improve your analytical capabilities and realize that civilization is a very slow process yet to be fully embraced by us africans.
VP Berewa has carefully steered away from such trouble. Now, he has the opportunity to seek to run his own show.
What is wrong with such astute behavior? Do you think he should have instead fought his president?
As for busy, busy Mr. TEE, have him understand that whatever Mr. Berewa does as VP, he does so under President Kabba's sufferance/authority.
TEE should not ask someone to itemize responsibilities delegated to any VP. As a practical matter, the president is the sole sovereign power in SLeone. Please have PMDC TEE check with Mr. Prez instead.
Thank you very much. -JL
Subject: Re: Is John Leigh Dishonest or just Plain Stupid?
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 12:20:56 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
Entered From: adsl-67-125-20-242.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net at 67.125.20.242
Message:
John,
Your response is not reasonable because Berewa could have resigned and let the public know that he does not support Kabbah's policies. Do not rationalize bad government/leadership as a function of African traditions or culture. If collective responsibility is an alien concept then stop taking medicines developed in Europe. Stop driving cars, do not fly in jets. you see how stupid your explanation is?
Now please explain what collective responsibility means?
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: Is John Leigh Dishonest or just Plain Stupid?
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 18:09:00 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: spider-dtc-tf032.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.114.142
Message:
Your analogy is misplaced and way off base.
One can easily take from Europe the things that make life easy or that improve life's quality - cars, medicines, jets, etc. - but reject things that make a country a much better place for all its people. Such happends all the time. It is an on-going phenomenon.
Are you familiar with the record of someone like Mobutu? Charles Taylor, etc.?
Now who is talking stupid? - JL
Subject: Re: Is John Leigh Dishonest or just Plain Stupid?
From: TEE
To: All
Date Posted: 05:37:25 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-35-199-175.cable.ubr01.camd.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.199.175
Message:
Berewa is sure part of that adminstration, and he has duties delegated to him by Kabba, since he is second in command. Can John Leigh please make known to us the duties delegated to Berewa, and how effectively he has been performing them
Subject: Re: Is John Leigh Dishonest or just Plain Stupid?
From: John Leigh's Friend
To: All
Date Posted: 08:45:38 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 208.41.8.154
Message:
I would say both. That is why he is so pathetic. Because when you are stupid, you cannot afford to be dishonest, because you are not smart enough to outsmart anyone. He was against Berewa before he was for him. He supported kabbah before you stopped supporting him. They rigged the "conbention" and now "it is the will of the people". I see him as someone suffering from oppositional defiance disorder who occasionally condescends into memory loss (or deliberate memory loss) disorder. I dont think he is a flipflopper, I think he is a moron.
Subject: Re: Is John Leigh Dishonest or just Plain Stupid?
From: curious
To: All
Date Posted: 10:29:38 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 67.63.2.157
Message:
whats up JOHN KERRY...
Subject: Re: Is John Leigh Dishonest or just Plain Stupid?
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 10:17:14 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: spider-dtc-ta104.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.112.54
Message:
Whomsoever this bitter PMDCer styling himself John Leigh's Friend may be, he is certainly not a genuine friend. He could have used his own name if he has any self-respect. Thus, the dishonesty he ascribes to me is truly his own problem, not mine.
As for the moronic stupidity he and Dr. Fanusi have alleged, the PMDC fahlahmahkahtah elite takes the cake on that one! Those people are so one-manically, dynastically and over-ambitiously driven, they can't even think and analyze political events on the ground - let alone understand the political mood of the country.
So they've made mistakes upon mistakes, including secretly setting up a privately owned and operated political party and then trying to rope their superiors in under them so dunces are put in a position to boss their betters. Its ridiculous but they don't see it at all!
The PMDC moronic elite mistook my effective Third Force criticisms of the Kabbah Administration to erroneously conclude that I have burnt all my bridges within the SLPP and so lack a political home base when, in fact, the opposite was the true situation.
The SLPP rank and file and people in the country liked the Third Force ideas others and I (but not Margai) had espoused in writing. Even some of the targets of my criticisms had begun to come around in admiration.
Because they can’t think right (after all they are mostly over-ambitious flunkies who believe in slapping adversaries as a way to deal with uncomfortable problems), those dummies concluded that genuine Third Force personalities such as JL, had no choice but to automatically flip-flop into the PMDC.
The fact that they already set-up arrangements to marginalize all genuine Third Force types in order to protect their flunky, dynastic fahlahmahkahtah leader was of no consequence to them. JL had no choice, they wrongly concluded, but to join PMDC.
Makeni complicated the matters for me but I saw through the fogg. They didn't because they are driven by vaulting over-ambition for one single man's dynastic dreams.
Because there is a one-man dictatorship within the PMDC, deep thinking there is a stranger. One man makes of the decisions, despite the pretenses.
Accordingly, they failed to correctly judge the true situation within the SLPP and the country.
The real situation within the country was and is that neither the SLPP rank & file, nor the country want another new political party - let alone a fahlahmahkahtah one led by a hip-hopping, flip-flopping opportunistic, flunky type, notorious for arrogance, haughtiness with an under-achieving background and with over-ambitious dynastic pretensions.
But the people were not happy with the country's circumstances. The bulk of the people wanted the Third Force personalities inside the party to work together in Makeni for reform. This never happened, probably since I was not of a woman, born!
So, what was the next best decision to take?
All of us Makeni failures but one chose reform from within. We were well received by the rank and file who believe the best practical approach is to keep the party united while we pursue reforms.
The loner, unmindful of APC’s history of hedious mal-governance, chose to split and establish his own political fahlahmahkahtah vehicle with his junior tribal supporters, opportunistic harlot politicians, family members and other relatives as well as remedial and crookish types in tow.
He does not understand that some one like me can justifiable criticize rivals and justifiable work together with them for the long-term good of our country. He thinks hip-hopping and fip-flopping within alphabet soup is the solution.
Nothing was more annoying than his repeated invitations for me to join him in his family-flunky grouping as well as his using my name in vain to gain respect and acceptance.
I am not a PMDcer and will never be. My refusal to join his fahlahmahkahtah group was a stunning blow to him. But if he was a good thinker, he would have seen it coming and thus would not have been stunned by my refusal and subsequent opposition to his idle, empty talk: ar go do dis, ar go do dat!.
I believe he now understands that my thinking faculty is vastly different from his and that of his dumbo lackeys. Thank you. -JL
Subject: Re: Is John Leigh Dishonest or just Plain Stupid?
From: John Leigh's best friend
To: All
Date Posted: 11:28:21 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 208.41.8.154
Message:
Another set of rants and raves coming from my frined John. These were the exact raves in the immediate post-makeni-"conbention"-era. All of a sudden " We was [no longer] robbed"? Now its "reform from within". So Dr. banya is also "reforming from within"? Everyone knows the RGM is more of a regrouping than a "reforming" entity ready to once again milk on the ravages of the current SLPP malaise. The people are watching Johnnny. You cant reform if you are not a reformer. All I see is a moron-type-flipflopper- reformers.I think your ranting dexhibits an unfortunate situation of a fine gentleman sucumbing to an obsessive compulsive disorder. JL, you lost my respect the moment you crawled on your knees begging the "We was robbed" party to once again recognise you as their "cyper-publicity-secretary". How could you join a fan-club of Berewa, whom youhave so vehemently attacked after loosing to him in your combention?
The world definitely needs men who can move beyond the croutches of self-aggrandisement. In you, the people of Sierra leone have seen the opposite.
JL's Friend
Subject: Re: Is John Leigh Dishonest or just Plain Stupid?
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 18:34:00 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: spider-dtc-tf032.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.114.142
Message:
Here is my respose in summary form:
1. The "We Was Robbed" experience in Makeni is in no way inconsistent with seeking changes from within my party. I do not have a reputation of hip-hopping and fdlip-flopping within our notorious alphabet soup politics.
2. Dr. Banya is not my responsibility. If you need to know where he stands, please contact him directly. Don't ask me. Further, not every one inside the SLPP is for reform.
3. What you call a disorder (my utter rejected margai and his fahlahmahkahtah PMDC), others call a very sound decision. Your mentality is obviously a sour-grapes' mentality.
4. Whether I lost your respect or not is irrelevant. Your respect, your high esteem, your whatever was never worth even a dine to me. Please take your respect from me and give it to Mr. Margai or whomsoever you please.
5. I never joined any Fan Club of Berewa or any one at any time. You are an unsuspecting victim of Gongorlee Wohwoh journalism perpetriated by RUF Sylbanyah Foday Sankoh Lie-Lie Times.
6. Self-aggrandizement led to the establishment of the PMDC. PMDC is for him alone to realize his dumb childhood dream. It is a one-manic privately-owned party.
7. You are Margai's relative, not my friend. Your problem is your flunky group is unable to use me and others to benefit him.
Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: Is John Leigh Dishonest or just Plain Stupid?
From: boli
To: All
Date Posted: 12:13:27 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: boli@yahoo.com
Entered From: 80-47-225-56.lond-th.dynamic.dial.as9105.com at 80.47.225.56
Message:
Don't worry we will grind him down. People like him should have no place in any sort of politics. I totally agree with you and I hope he gets the message too.
I tell you somthing else; He will stop sending messages to this forum as he knows there are too many wise heads here.
Subject: Re: Is John Leigh Dishonest or just Plain Stupid?
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 18:36:30 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: spider-dtc-tf032.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.114.142
Message:
I will have the last say on any issue important to me that is wrongfully presented to forumites. - JL
Subject: SLPP GIVES 5 TIPS TO SAVE WATER
From: kroobaymom
To: All
Date Posted: 01:48:01 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: kroobaymom@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 65.117.246.251
Message:
Due to water shortage in Freetown, the SLPP has recommended the following five tips to economise the scarce water available:
1. Forget about having baths or showers. Dry clean only. Those found guilty will be prosecuted.
2. When having a shower stand in a bowl and use the water collected for flushing the loo.
3. If you have friends or relatives who have unlimited access to running water, arrange to have your laundry done at their place.
4. Collect all used kitchen items such as a plates and wash them together rather than washing them individually.
5. Use recycled water such as water previously used for washing rice to do the washing up and clean water for rinsing.
Subject: Re: SLPP GIVES 5 TIPS TO SAVE WATER
From: Further tips man
To: All
Date Posted: 08:56:37 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 208.41.8.154
Message:
And dont waste your pee..gather your pee in a bucket for another loo flushing
when you sweat from the eratic and Kabba-tiger-polluted air, just wipe and rub burn-pamai..you are already showerd for the week.
-everyone must take rain-shower on a rainnny day, no exceptions
-drink only after you are sure you are done eating - even if you are choking from foo-foo.
- Flush your toilet only after the fifth use, u are free to toilet-pool. Feel free to invite neighbours to fill the loo.
- everyone is encouraged to carry black plastic bags which can be safely deposited at samba gotta after looing.
Subject: SURVEY RESULT - SLPP WINS
From: Albert Moinina
To: All
Date Posted: 01:02:41 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 218.248.0.180
Message:
Brothers and Sisters,
First I would like to thank all of you that participated in the survey and above all to the Cocorioko Forum for making it possible besides the fantastic job of letting us share our joys, sorrows, concerns and ideas. Thank you KABS KANU and the COCORIOKO TEAM.
Below are the results of the Election Survey taken on this Forum on 26 March 2007:
We had 25 Participants
1. Berewa got 12 nos = 48%
2. Ernest got 7 nos = 28%
3. Margai got 4 nos = 16%
4. Others (RUFP) got 1 no. = 4%
5. Will not vote got 1 number = 4%
In a real election scenario, we will have a runoff between BEREWA and ERNEST.
Ladies and gentlemen, once again,thank you very much for you participation. A lot of us would not like the above to be the outcome of the actual "thing", but ONE THING WE ALL NEED TO LEARN IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF RESULT OF THE COMING ELECTION UNDER A FREE AND FAIR ATMOSPHERE.
There are many reasons why the next election may tilt in any direction. From the above SURVEY, it is clear that many stayed away and this is a factor that may affect the outcome of the next election to our unexpected surprise. MASIBO TENDA.
Subject: ALBERT, ARE YOU NOT ASHAMED TO SAY SLPP WON?
From: JUSTICE
To: All
Date Posted: 02:18:00 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip565bc167.direct-adsl.nl at 86.91.193.103
Message:
This just shows how the SLPP is ready to rig the next general elections.
Despite repeated calls that Slyvester Johnny rigged the SURVEY by voting twice, no action was taking. You could even observe that the participation on the survey stopped altogether after this fraud was detected. Are you now not even ashamed than ever for having organised such a rigged online SURVEY?
You see, we members of THE NEW APC are very serious and we take things seriously. Most of us wanted to participate but in an honest atmosphere. So, you will not expect us to participate on fraud. All APC members heard the call when they saw the message on the forum to stop and they stopped.
I hope such rigging will not occur on JULY 28 in Sierra LEONE. I also hope that the SUPREME COURT of Sierra LEONE will investigate any rigging ocherestrated by the SLPP and take immediate action.
If not, the people will give their verdict. Remember that no one can withstand PEOPLES POWER.
Three people have just been appointed sas judges. I hope that their appointment is to help investigate malpractices in the forth coming elections without bias.
Albert, remember that COCORIOKO is widely read and many people are interested in this forum because of its articles. Some have even chosen the forum as their source of information. So organising a rigged online SURVEY by SLPP will not tell well on the SLPP. It puts them into more trouble.
But that is none of our business. THE NEW APC is here to expose all sorts of CORRUPTION whether it is in Sierra Leone or on this FORUM.
Wait after JULY 28 when ERNEST KOROMA shall have begone is duties as PRESIDENT of Sierra Leone.
We shall SMOKE all of you out of those CORRUPT holes, both in Sierra Leone and abroad.
I now show this to our readers who want to know the truth about this survey, These were the votes casted by a certain Sylvester Johnny. The man voted twice to let BEREWA win. This was the case during the voters registerations. One man two voters card.
Read:
Re: COCORIOKO FORUM SURVEY - ELECTION - Sylvester Johnny 08:24:28 (3)
Re: COCORIOKO FORUM SURVEY - ELECTION - Sylvester Jojnny 09:52:43 03/26/07 (0)
Albert, the two votes mentioned will just show you how SLPP is dishonest to them very selves let alone society.
SLPP, WOONA NOH GO LEF YUKI YUKI?
ALL SAI PASS WOONA CROOK. AY, WOOSAI WOONA WAN KEHR SALONE.
APC DAY KAM.
WOONA NOH GO GET PLACE FOR HIDE OH.
WE GO SMOKE OONA OUT.
LONTA.
GOD BLESS.
Subject: Re: ALBERT, ARE YOU NOT ASHAMED TO SAY SLPP WON?
From: Albert Moinina
To: All
Date Posted: 02:47:29 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 218.248.0.180
Message:
Mr. JUSTICE,
I made a promise to myself to reveal the result of the survey. I did just that. As to your allegation of fraud, I cannot frankly tell whether there was actual rigging. I had appealed to people to participate only once, if some do not have the decency to do that in a hypothetical setting then it is unfortunate. Most of all have been crying down corruption in SL and if people are exhibiting such dubious activities here, what do they stand to gain?
I am sorry if this has affected any of you. I hope next time, we can come up with a mechanism with the help of Kabs Kanu and the Moderator to monitor the whole system.
You know the outcome of the survey is against my wish and besides many stayed away as you rightly said. Take care Justice.
Subject: Re: ALBERT, ARE YOU NOT ASHAMED TO SAY SLPP WON?
From: BUFORD HWY
To: All
Date Posted: 07:19:54 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-074-228-219-218.sip.asm.bellsouth.net at 74.228.219.218
Message:
"As to your allegations of fraud,I can not frankly tell whether there was actual rigging,I had appealed to people to participate only once,"
Bra, you should not have use this statement after JUSTICE had brought that to your ATTENTION OF RIGGING by a SLPP party member,but you went ahead and called it.
Bra,this is just a reminder of what happened at the last elections 2002 when JAMES JONAH made similar statement as yours.You know what happened in the SOUTHEAST during the 2002 elections when PA KABBA had 120% voting from the ELETORATES.How can you get 120% out of 100%?Was everybody in the SOUTHEAST VOTED FOR SLPP?Please STATITICIANS out there help us with this problem.Instead of JAMES JONAH DISQUALIFIED the result,instead he took the 20% and left the 100% vote which also could have been SCRUTINIZED. if it was not the STATESMANSHIP of the HON ERNEST KOROMA to go ahead and accepted the RESULT for the benefit of PEACE,SALONE could had gone back to chaos.This time around,the APC party will NOT accept any result that we have CONCRETE EVIDENCE OF RIGGING.The NDI,UN,EU,STATE DEPARTMENT,CARTER CENTER and STAKE HOLDERS had all been INFORMED,and as I am writing this peace from my laptop,we are going to a meeting with some CIVIL and HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS and TOPICS on this FORUM will be DISCUSSED.
SLPP this time,all we want is a FREE,FAIR,TRANSPARENT and DEMOCRATIC elections for our PEOPLE.
Subject: Re: SURVEY RESULT - SLPP WINS
From: Truth
To: All
Date Posted: 01:12:22 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-138-214-249.range86-138.btcentralplus.com at 86.138.214.249
Message:
Thank you! Your carried two important messages in the above:
1. THE ACCEPTANCE OF RESULT OF THE COMING ELECTION UNDER A FREE AND FAIR ATMOSPHERE;
2. POLITICAL/ELECTION APATHY.
Our people should know that iur nation wants to move on from the decades of indifference to embrace a new Sierra Leone with a national order - the protection and supports for its citizens under Berewa.
Therefore as Mr. Moinina observed, staying away will affect the outcome of the elections and the policies that may come to govern us. We have to mobilise our people to vote on the 28th July 2007.
Subject: YES, TWO IMPORTANT MESSAGES, RIGING AND CORRUPTION ON SURVEY
From: JUSTICE
To: All
Date Posted: 06:12:56 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip565bc167.direct-adsl.nl at 86.91.193.103
Message:
Truth, I agree with you perfectly.
The two important messages learnt from the above is RIGGING and CORRUPTION of the online SURVEY.
Thanks a lot.
Subject: RE: WHERE IS BRA ENVIABLE?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 00:38:45 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-af05.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.69
Message:
I am a supporter of the PMDC. However, my support does not oblige me to take the cudgels on the party's behalf when opponents come out with sabers to conduct political duels. Party politics, like conventional warfare, should have a propaganda wing otherwise dressed as a public relations department. I believe, or at least suspect, that the PMDC has a secretariat charged with responding to the contrivance of its opponents. John Leigh and others are legitimately doing everything democracy allows--disgorge enough political filth on the opponent until he either fights back, or gives up to prove the superiority of your ideas.
Margai is a lawyer. I very much believe that his career must have taught him how to empty the gales out of the prosecution's attacks while protecting your client with thoughtful sophistry. Democracy, like a courtroom drama, is a show of nerves driven by mental agility. Attacks are either delivered, neutralized, depending on one's position in the battle of wits. I think Ngor Margai knows that with much conviction!
Subject: FOR KABS KANU & MODERATOR -SURVEY
From: Albert Moinina
To: All
Date Posted: 21:41:56 03/26/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 218.248.0.180
Message:
Please do not delete the ongoing SURVEY so I can tally the results within the next 10 hours.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Subject: FEW MORE HOURS TO GO - SURVEY
From: Albert Moinina
To: All
Date Posted: 21:37:38 03/26/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 218.248.0.180
Message:
I will allow another few hours for the survey to go. The results will then be published. Thank you all for your participation.
Subject: APC IS DISTANCING ITSELF ROM THIS RIGGED SURVEY. THANK YOU!
From: JUSTICE
To: All
Date Posted: 06:27:03 03/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip565bc167.direct-adsl.nl at 86.91.193.103
Message:
Albert, all THE NEW APC is saying, they are distancing themselves from this SURVEY. We donot want to tarnish our image. There are thousands of people out there watching what is happening.
Let the SLPP ride high with their habbits. FRAUD and CORRUPTION.
May be you will get PMDC participants.
THANKS.
GOOD LUCK.
GOD BLESS.
Subject: Re: APC IS DISTANCING ITSELF ROM THIS RIGGED SURVEY. THANK YOU!
From: NAR U SABI
To: All
Date Posted: 06:35:47 03/27/07 ()
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Message:
NAR U SABI
Subject: PATRICK MUANA RESPONDS TO JIMMY (PMDC) KANDEH.....
From: Independent Man
To: All
Date Posted: 21:23:48 03/26/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 69.111.162.74
Message:
The Return of the Wild Geese: Outcasts, Pundits, and Pariahs
Patrick K. Muana
Houston, Texas
Let me start my reflection on Jimmy Kandeh’s “Kabba Cooked SLPP’s Goose” with a few caveats. Jimmy Kandeh is a friend and fellow intellectual with whom I have enjoyed the occasional ribbing of politicians and political antics. Unlike me, Jimmy has joined Sierra Leone’s political parties, and in his article, he confesses to “monkey-partyism” (jumping from SLPP to the PMDC, like the majority of PMDC members) – an act of political desperation and insincerity that Jimmy and I have laughed about before. With this in mind, and the fact that his fitful dalliances with political parties and politicians have always left him sulking about unfulfilled promises, I am left wondering about the size and nature of the offer from the PMDC that has led him to compromise himself again in such a public manner.
I read Jimmy Kandeh’s piece half-amused. The article is as self-indulgent as it is unremarkable. Its dour blend of overused gossip (inflected with Jimmy’s Kandeh’s very own brand of hype and sensationalism), and Jimmy’s unusual dire and uninformed political prognostication make the piece as uninformative as it is unmemorable. There is plenty of style and fluency, all right, but when one starts scouring for substance, one is bitterly disappointed by the glaring absence of thoroughgoing political analyses. What one takes from the article is a rich blend of irony that will make Jimmy the butt of a new set of jokes about this his new foray into Sierra Leone politics. Beware Sierra Leoneans, that article was Jimmy Kandeh’s official inauguration of the PMDC’s very own “rogue’s gallery of fawning supplicants, rank opportunists, and groveling sycophants.” Let me respond to those issues that make some sense in the article, and just briefly so.
Jimmy Kandeh’s call against corruption is valid and timely and he cannot have been more right when he notes that corruption “enfeebles democratic institutions.” But flowery as this political sermonizing is, I am left even more worried about the logic that informs Jimmy’s declaration of allegiance to his new master especially as he mentions the unethical dishing out of government contracts to wives, paramours, and family members as one of those acts of “corruption,” which Jimmy points out, constitute a “threat to our security and existence.” However, I am more worried than Jimmy, apparently, about whether one who is proven to have acted unethically in dishing out government contracts to his wife and family members will be in any much haste to implement the tenets of ethical leadership. Perhaps Jimmy Kandeh considered the simple principle of ethical leadership in declaring his loyalty to his new political master. And if Jimmy really cares about corruption, he should just take off the “fawning supplicant” hat and put on the hat of a thinking intellectual to realize that his new master’s sonorous rant about “jail them when you make me a benevolent dictator” is a plainly unprogressive way of dealing with issues in a democracy. I’d rather see encumbrances (laws and working institutions) in place that could legally proscribe, limit, and curb corruption than play sycophant to some loud village bully who wants to become a “benevolent dictator” in order to jail anybody who he considers a “thief.” I am sure he may not want to leave out even those who give out unethical contracts to their wives and family members.
Besides, Jimmy Kandeh’s appalling lack of knowledge or flagrant dishonesty shines in so glaring a way that I am sufficiently embarrassed to even point those areas out. This SLPP government has passed the Government Budgeting and Accountability Act (a first); it has instituted the National Revenue Authority (another first); it has instituted the National Public Procurement Act (another first); it has implemented the integrated financial management information system (a first). I would take the declared views of experts of international bodies and organizations like the EU, World Bank, United Nations, etc any day over Jimmy’s “batoliner” comments. I want to convince myself that Jimmy is not ignorant of the fact that Sierra Leone has recently benefited from 100% debt relief and Peacebuilding Commission funds, and has received commendations from international bodies and agencies because the SLPP government is doing the right things – not by accident, but by design. Besides, Jimmy just needs to read a bit to realize that this government has passed the highest number of enabling acts than any government in the history of the country. I don’t mind excusing crass ignorance; I have a problem with patent dishonesty.
What Jimmy wants us to take from his article is that his series of opinions about his amorphous “privation” and “alienation” are relevant. Whatever happened to some honesty and objectivity, I am thoroughly left flummoxed at Jimmy’s political antics? As a historian and political scientist, I’d expect Jimmy Kandeh to be the first to acknowledge that countries making transitions from conflict address the macro-economic and institutional issues first before dealing with bread and butter issues. I will leave that task to other scholars of conflict transformation, reconstruction, and post-conflict reform. But I am sure Jimmy is not totally ignorant that Sierra Leone’s macro-economic performance has been recognized as exceptional in several respects. Local government reforms are being implemented diligently; security sector reform is ongoing; revenue collection and social security institutions have been set up; the justice sector is being reformed; NACSA has worked diligently on its poverty alleviation schemes; schools and hospitals have been constructed and equipped; and more than anything else, our multi-party democracy is thriving. I do not mean to ignore areas in which the SLPP clearly needs to reform and display more competence; I simply mean to ask Jimmy Kandeh that we owe it to truth (if nothing else) to acknowledge the good things the SLPP has done.
Evidently, that Jimmy Kandeh spends more time talking about what the SLPP has not done rather than what his new party and new party leader, Charles Margai, will be doing for Sierra Leone smacks of what Jimmy himself describes as “rank opportunism.” Clearly, Jimmy Kandeh has his markers of competence and achievement – one of which may be not being in any haste to articulate his new party’s agenda. I was left gasping and hoping through Jimmy’s flowery rhetoric for him to mention what Charles Margai is going to do in his first 100 days to resolve what Jimmy moans about forever in his piece – “privation” and “alienation” as well as “water and electricity.” I will wait in hope that his rejoinder or some fuddle-free piece is forthcoming from Jimmy that will address what Charles Margai and his PMDC have failed spectacularly to do even in their very badly written manifesto that is loaded with grammatical and spelling mistakes. At least Jimmy Kandeh is adding a much-needed and long-overdue intellectual edge to the PMDC.
The bulk of the bile in the article is directed at the outgoing President Tejan Kabbah who is not a candidate for the forthcoming elections and who is on his way to retirement. I didn’t quite get Jimmy’s objective there. If this is some hangover from some anger backlog that Jimmy has been harboring for a while, then I don’t quite think it hurts for him to perhaps spend some time giving us intellectually stimulating reasons why VP Berewa is not “electable.” What has Jimmy Kandeh’s new political master (Charles Margai) demonstrated in leadership in terms of solid achievements that makes him “electable”?
Jimmy Kandeh’s reasoning at several points leaves me completely baffled. For example, among other reasons, Jimmy argues that Charles Margai is electable because he has never joined the APC. I wonder where that logic leaves VP Berewa too who, to my mind, has never joined the APC. Without evidence, Jimmy revels in idle speculation about “rigged” elections and “gbosgbos” by what he carelessly calls “popular sectors.” Perhaps Jimmy may care to share his new found powers of prediction and forecasting “rigging” and “violence” just because he wishes for “violence” when the PMDC loses the elections. So why violence (gbosgbos) rather than pure-bred litigation in courts as civilized people do elsewhere? And his final resolution to practicing dissidence as the only option open to him in the face of what he calls “bad governance,”just boggles. I am sure that Jimmy Kandeh wants me to believe that membership of Charles Margai’s PMDC and shamelessly touting Charles Margai’s “electability” and kindred “batolisms” is “dissidence” and therefore “patriotism.” I am looking forward to his writing something coherent and analytical. I think he owes it to Sierra Leoneans who expect a lot of intellectual leadership, if anything.
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA RESPONDS TO JIMMY (PMDC) KANDEH.....
From: Muana's Reviewer
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Date Posted: 09:09:53 03/27/07 ()
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Muana could have done a better job if his article was reader friendly. I might be wrong because I am used to reading articles from New York Times/Wall Street Journal/Washington Post etc. What is common among those newspapers is their ability to convey Muana's kind of message without the irrelevant barrage of words and rigmaroling verbosity. Without googleing muana, I can tell that he is somehow schooled. Years ago, when I was an English major student at FBC, I realized that there is a difference between liguistic competence and communicative competence. Good writers communicate. I didnt see that, instead I saw more of an ego than an ability to make a point. As an Editor, I will refuse to publish something like this purely on the basis of its unqualitative value.
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA RESPONDS TO JIMMY (PMDC) KANDEH.....
From: IN BRIEF
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Date Posted: 09:15:26 03/27/07 ()
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In brief: Patrick Muana writes English very, very poorly -- certainly below the level of an average secondary school student in Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA RESPONDS TO JIMMY (PMDC) KANDEH.....
From: Jimmy Kandeh
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Date Posted: 10:02:20 03/27/07 ()
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Parallel Universes
Jimmy D. Kandeh
Muana's insulting piece is beneath contempt, but let me just say the following and leave it at that:
(1) I don't have a political master, nor have I ever been an opportunist or "batoman" in my life. As much as I have some issues regarding CFM, I'll take him any day over the competition. We plan to hold CFM's feet to the fire and I'll be among the first to call him out if he fails to do right by the people.
(2) I support the PMDC but I am not officially a member (PK obviously does not know what he's talking about).
(3) PK should be advised not to talk about contracts. Berewa was in charge of contracts and according to Val Collier (former ACC commissioner - I interviewed him last year) most of his investigations involving some of these contracts led him to the VP. Val claims he did not "have the balls to go after the VP." He gave me a lot of documents on corruption under the SLPP that I intend to use in a book I'm working on. He also told me that the SLPP tried to prod him to go after Charles but the evidence was lacking. There is no basis to SLPP propaganda about Charles and contracts; otherwise they would have taken him out long ago.
(5) My write-up was not a scholarly piece but an attempt to share my perspective on the forthcoming elections with others at home and in the diaspora. Scholarly pieces are for scholarly journals and most of our compatriots are not scholars. I have received numerous private emails from SLPP types agreeing with much of what I had to say.
(6) My idea of a rogue politician is someone who puts his interest ahead of his country and the SLPP is loaded with such types, from the president down. PK can bury his head in the hand and pretend that all's well under the SLPP because the World Bank says so but some of us see it differently and have a right to dissent.
(7) PK claims I don't know about commissions (ACC) and pieces of legislation (anti-money laundering etc) the SLPP has established/passed as if they really amount to anything. "Enabling acts" my foot - It's like saying the AFRC did a swell job fighting corruption because it passed an "Anti-Looting" decree - we all know better. Commissions and legislation amount to nothing if there is no willingness and commitment to see them work. For anyone to think IBRD officials know more about our country than those residing there (or researching politics in the country) is beyond me. PK must think, like Berewa and co., that our salvation will come from the world Bank. He must also think, like Paul Collier, that diamonds were the cause of our conflict, not predatory accumulation. World Bank and IMF? Give me a break!
(8) My predictions regarding the forthcoming elections are based on years of studying elections in SL, with several scholarly articles published (Journal of Modern African Studies, African Studies Review, etc) in this regard. I guess my work on elections in SL does not qualify me to say anything about elections in the country since I am "ignorant" and "dishonest" in the eyes of Pope Patrick.
(9) NACSA (a state institution, not a party arm) is the SLPP's piggy bank - used extensively by Berewa and co. for campaigning
(10) There is nothing wrong joining a political party or changing party affiliations as long as it is not an act of opportunism.
My advise to PK is not to write about what he does not know. He does not know me (we are not friends) well enough but he has the gall to talk about "size" and "nature" of offer from PMDC, which assumes I am looking for personal gain. I am surprised at PK because I think he should know better than to think I am interested in any position or offer back home, whether from the PMDC, SLPP or APC. I would have joined the caboodle long time ago if personal interest had anything to do with my politics. APC tried to recruit me coming out of graduate school (you can ask AKT), as did Kabba in 1998 but I had no interest then and I have no interest now.
We must be living in parallel universes when our perspectives on events back home are so divergent. We surely do not see the same homeland when we visit nor do we hear the same songs that reflect the pain and suffering of our people. Instead you make a mockery of the privations of our people, dismissing their sense of alienation and profound disapproval of governmental performance as abstract constructs. How much more self-distancing from reality you can entertain is up to your fancy but rest assured that I trust the views of the common folk back home more than those of world Bank officials (external estate), cultural entrepreneurs and ethnic hegemonists on matters pertaining to our country.
Civil disobedience is a patriotic form of resistance and my fear is that the SLPP will not hesitate to drag us into another crisis like it did in 1967. Putting the country first will ensure a free and fair election and a smooth transition.
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA RESPONDS TO JIMMY (PMDC) KANDEH.....
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 18:25:08 03/27/07 ()
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It’s always an educative experience to read what Dr. Kandeh writes, with or without the intention to persuade. He sometimes writes flamboyantly about the “waste of space” etc. It’s usually criticism with a sting.
As he says (5) My write-up was not a scholarly piece but an attempt to share my perspective on the forthcoming elections with others at home and in the Diaspora. Scholarly pieces are for scholarly journals and most of our compatriots are not scholars. I have received numerous private emails from SLPP types agreeing with much of what I had to say"
In other words the political scientist commentator, writing as a commentator for our concerned and easy reading public even if we should expect nothing less than serious comment and commitment.
WE would be the worse off without a free press and those who express themselves in it so that we get plentiful and sometimes disagreeing views.
As a non-expert, I learn from it, not only about the emotional chemistry that pits man against his fellow man, when the lines are drawn in the hardening Sierra Leone political battlefield
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA RESPONDS TO JIMMY (PMDC) KANDEH.....
From: ADVICE
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Date Posted: 11:11:58 03/27/07 ()
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Thank you very much,Mr.Kandeh,you have taken the moral high ground.Instead of personally attacking Muana,you have intellectually dissected his rebuttal of your piece.This is what academia is all about.I doff my hat to you,sir.
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA RESPONDS TO JIMMY (PMDC) KANDEH.....
From: Where Did You Learn English?
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Date Posted: 01:12:14 03/27/07 ()
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Did the person who wrote this ever learn how to write English? This fluff could have been written with less than 1/4 the verbiage. The writer also needs lessons in grammar.
Take a look at this typical example of the writer's difficulties with English grammar: "As a historian and political scientist, I’d expect Jimmy Kandeh to be the first to acknowledge that countries making transitions from conflict address the macro-economic and institutional issues first before dealing with bread and butter issues."
CORRECTION: Unless the writer, Patrick Muana, is "a historian and political scientist," the correct construction is: "As a historian and political scientist, JIMMY KANDEH CAN BE EXPECTED to be the first to acknowledge that countries making transitions from conflict address the macro-economic and institutional issues first before dealing with bread and butter issues."
Patrick Muana should first learn the basics of English grammar before trying to write in English. He owes his readers that.
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA RESPONDS TO JIMMY (PMDC) KANDEH.....
From: Una Go Shame
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Date Posted: 06:56:40 03/27/07 ()
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google his name and you will fin out where he went to school... you nar too lie. what is correct about your so called correction?
de man get englist/linguistics e do im masters pan nar England nar im you with you wae fail englis O'level dae try for correct am? Mboh sheeooh. Ma-ri-mou wan gbepeh me..
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA RESPONDS TO JIMMY (PMDC) KANDEH.....
From: Nar You and Patrick Muna Done Shame
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Date Posted: 07:53:45 03/27/07 ()
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How can a person like Patrick Muana who can't correctly construct a simple sentence in English possible have passed a masters degree course in England?
As for you (assuming you are not Muana masquerading as a bystander in his exposure as a pretender to English language competence, the question for you is just as simple -- and revealing of your ignorance: How can your discuss correct English grammar if you cannot identify incorrect English grammar in Patrick Muana's poor English?
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA RESPONDS TO JIMMY (PMDC) KANDEH.....
From: Una Go Shame
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Date Posted: 08:05:56 03/27/07 ()
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Hey how dem old people dem dae do nar east coast?
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA RESPONDS TO JIMMY (PMDC) KANDEH.....
From: HAHAHAHAHAHeeeee
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Date Posted: 09:10:47 03/27/07 ()
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Shame, Nar You and Patrick Muna Done Shame finish you en Patrick Muana kpatakpata!
Den don montohmontoh you en Muana nar dis Cocorioko forum. Eef oona bin know, oonu bin for lef nar oonu play-cook forum, TAMU, sarfulk,wan. Yar, nar KABS-KANU net, nar lagbaja, tranga-bone man dem dae ya -- den nor dae "yoke" wit foolman dem!
HahahahahahahahaHehehehehteeeteteetetE, AR GO DIE WITH LAFF TEEDAY. P.K.Muana don meet him matches nar Cocorioko!
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA RESPONDS TO JIMMY (PMDC) KANDEH.....
From: Astafulai
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Date Posted: 06:37:07 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: bontilaynga@yahoo.com
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Take a look at this typical example of the writer's difficulties with English grammar: "As a historian and political scientist, I’d expect Jimmy Kandeh to be the first to acknowledge that countries making transitions from conflict address the macro-economic and institutional issues first before dealing with bread and butter issues."
You have every right Dr. Muana to put your irrelevancies before bread and butter.No wonder half of Freetown is now starving of water because those who should be seen to advocate for the people are busy praise-sing a government that cannot even clean its office environments, let alone provide power for its ciizens.
When are you coming home?FBC has only four lecturers in the English Department, and the most educated of them is a Masters holder from FBC. I was just hoping that with such flowering achievements of SLPP, you will conclude by saying that you are on your way home with your two kids to enjoy the fruit of SLPP.
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA RESPONDS TO JIMMY (PMDC) KANDEH.....
From: Patrick Musa
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Date Posted: 07:45:19 03/27/07 ()
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You mean this guy is a "Dr"? Apart from his problems handling high school-level English grammar, I can tell you that he has difficulties with economics.
The ungrammatical sentence he wrote which you repeated betrays that "Dr." Muana does not understand the meaning of "bread and butter issues" as used in economics . They include -- not exclude -- macro-economic and institutional issues.
The poor fellow is suffering under the illusion that bread and butter issues refer to "little" things and not big or "macro" issues. Nothing could be further from the truth -- as any economist worth the name would confirm for the wannabe economist Patrick Muana.
Please don't tell me that this ill-informed guy, Patrick Muana, is a "Dr." of economics! That would be more shocking than if he claimed to be a Ph.D. in English -- when he can't even get simple English grammar right!
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA RESPONDS TO JIMMY (PMDC) KANDEH.....
From: Nimneh Bozin
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Date Posted: 21:36:24 03/26/07 ()
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No one gives a rats ass about arrogant Patrick Muana, why dont you get that cannibal jack ass back to his own forum where he belongs. He can disseminate all he wanst in his forum but he is not welcome here because if he comes here nar mami cuss nor mor ee go cam pan. Lek way man dem heng for cuss im mammi so mek ee cam ya ba en see. nex tem bra kerr da man day im rass article dem to im forum ya.
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA RESPONDS TO JIMMY (PMDC) KANDEH.....
From: ADVICE
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Date Posted: 09:16:43 03/27/07 ()
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Fellas:
Let's stop this nonsense and stick to the issues.Muana's rebuttal of Kandeh's piece is commendable,if you disagree with Muana then let's hear your own side of the story.
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA RESPONDS TO JIMMY (PMDC) KANDEH.....
From: NONSENSE
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Date Posted: 10:01:36 03/27/07 ()
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You should stop your nonsensical statements -- calling Patrick Muana's verbose, rambling, ungrammatical writing "commendable."
Muana raps the no less uninformed Kandeh's writing on similar grounds. Therefore, Muana is claiming expertise in English composition. That claim is therefore a legitimate ground for inquiry. So, when Muana demonstrates similar problems with English comprehension as he accuses Kandeh of displaying, it is perfectly okay to examine his claim of expertise against his (clearly poor) writing.
Given your demonstrated low intelligence, no one should expect you to understand the above simple point.
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA RESPONDS TO JIMMY (PMDC) KANDEH.....
From: Muana's Friend
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Date Posted: 10:00:48 03/27/07 ()
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Unfortunately Muana failed to make a point. He made a very unsuccessful attempt to show his linguistic astute/prowess and thus put his academic character to question. Somebody mentioned before that there is a difference "between linguistic competence and communicative competence'. Since he was more concerned with showing his ability to write, he now faces a credibility issue. Please read that "article" or "rebuttal" again, you will realise that by the time you come to the last sentence, you wont even recall what any of the topic sentences were about. It is too breath-taking. A very poor attempt. If this audience (forum) cannot understand you, I wonder who ever will. By the way, has he ever published anything? Just curious. In the United States, as a professor, the golden rule is "Publish or Perish". If you cant publish, you are as good as a high school teacher. you are only a professor (because you teach), and not a Professor (acquired through tenureship). Only fourah bay college has room for those kind of "professors'. Not even Njala.
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA RESPONDS TO JIMMY (PMDC) KANDEH.....
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 00:52:50 03/27/07 ()
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One thing I like about this forum is that - it tames and help restore verbal morality in people. Do not worry - forumites here are good at constructive ciriticisms that changes one's outlook. Stay cool and no fretting!!
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA RESPONDS TO JIMMY (PMDC) KANDEH.....
From: alieuratsass
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Date Posted: 22:23:47 03/26/07 ()
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alieu again? bra nor jealous the bra.
Subject: Re: PATRICK MUANA RESPONDS TO JIMMY (PMDC) KANDEH.....
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 09:38:46 03/27/07 ()
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I hope that you do not mean my Alieu because I am really making an effort not to get involved in the fray with people like Patrick Muana. Please keep meout of this one.
Stay Blessed
Subject: 2007 Online Voting
From: FORUM ELECTORAL COMMISSION
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Date Posted: 16:52:25 03/26/07 ()
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Forumites are welcome to the 2007 voters' link at the forum template to click in their ballots. No rigging please.
Subject: Re: 2007 Online Voting
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 17:27:50 03/26/07 ()
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You really idle.
Almost all who yap online are not registered to vote.
Nor waste you time pan nonsense
Subject: Re: 2007 Online Voting
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 00:57:09 03/27/07 ()
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You are correct. Do you have a better alternative you will like to propose?
Subject: Re: 2007 Online Voting
From: MODERATOR
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Date Posted: 20:56:01 03/26/07 ()
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You are the idle one to come up with an irresponsible comment like that. Your ability to confuse what is being done here with idleness says a lot about your imagination.
Subject: Re: 2007 Online Voting
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 01:03:16 03/27/07 ()
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Tit for tat inflames decorum. Would it not be correct to ask Independent man if he has a better alternative?
Subject: Re: 2007 Online Voting
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 00:32:08 03/27/07 ()
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Gi, you call yourself the moderator?
What imagination are you showing with your dumb ass poll? Any one can use different computers to vote multiple times. I guess your didn't think it through first...did you???
Take you Cheers and shove it up yours...
Now you can go ahead and ban me....
Subject: Re: 2007 Online Voting
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 00:55:57 03/27/07 ()
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I think you are misunderstanding what they are trying to do. Ask them to explain to you and if you have a better alternative propose it and, I believe, will gladly consider a better alternative to what is been done now. Stay cool!!
Subject: Re: 2007 Online Voting
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 01:23:00 03/27/07 ()
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Good advice!
Thanks
Subject: Re: 2007 Online Voting
From: BUFORD HWY
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Date Posted: 06:18:44 03/27/07 ()
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Independent Man,
The SUBJECT here is ONLINE VOTING,we all know most people did NOT register to vote in Sierra Leone,because of reasons KNOWN to them,so please do NOT get mad over this issue, even though your SLPP party members decided to RIGG THE ONLINE VOTING.
GOD BLESS.
Subject: Re: 2007 Online Voting
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 08:22:10 03/27/07 ()
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What makes you think I am SLPP?
I do not belong to any party. I blast for all of them as I see fit.
Thank you
Subject: Re: 2007 Online Voting
From: BUFORD HWY
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Date Posted: 09:34:42 03/27/07 ()
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EITHER WAY DO NOT GET MAD OVER THIS ISSUE.
Subject: BUFORD HWY, DONT WASTE TIME. A RIGGER IS ALWAYS A RIGGER.
From: JUSTICE
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Date Posted: 06:38:49 03/27/07 ()
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BUFORD HWY, the SLPP just rigged the online SURVEY voting arranged by Albert Moinina.
Donot waiste your time talking about online voting again.
They will always rig.
They are practicing for JULY 28.
But they will never do it if they attempt to rig the JULY 28 elections.
Subject: Re: 2007 Online Voting
From: Lawyer Jameson Aruna
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Date Posted: 21:39:59 03/26/07 ()
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Wow, you cannot even take critisism. It is an idle process. I can use 50 different computers, and my vote will be counted. What is the significance of your poll when the so called forumites are not registered voters. Get real.
Subject: In Remembrance of a difficult ansestral endurance.
From: musa Kalawa
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Date Posted: 15:33:08 03/26/07 ()
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Listen to an Audio documentary as Britain commumerates its 200 years in the abolization of Slavery. Some hard fact we should have in mind.
Subject: Re: In Remembrance of a difficult ansestral endurance.
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 16:51:22 03/26/07 ()
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Endurance, world champions in endurance
Subject: WHERE is SAHR T???
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 15:31:55 03/26/07 ()
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The Elections are slated for July 28 come rain or shine/babu dae born pikin na bush....
Subject: WHERE IS BRA ENVIABLE?
From: LEIGH IS THE MAN
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Date Posted: 15:09:26 03/26/07 ()
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Where is Bra Enviable?
His PMDC is being kicked
and torn in to pieces by
Mighty John Leigh.
John Leigh is the man.
Bra Enviable, John Leigh
has knocked the crap
out of you guys.
Where are you, Bra Enviable?
Subject: Re: WHERE IS BRA ENVIABLE?
From: boli
To: All
Date Posted: 13:06:06 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: boli@yahoo.com
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Where is John Leigh?
We are not sure but he must be across the sea
He came to Sierra Leone wanting to be president
but he lost all his leones and last cent
and did not get more than 3 votes.
Leave politics John
and stop making poems to praise yourself
Subject: Re: WHERE IS boli?
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:42:04 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Mr. boli:
I do not need any free advice. I have left diplomacy. Now I am in politics. You have nothing to worry about.
As for making praise poems, you can always find out who and who are making those postings. Check with Rev. Kabs Kanu and he will tell you its not me.
Stop acting as a desperado. Its only a debate. Its not war. And the cocorioko poll wasn't scientific. So there's nothing to get upset about. Good luck. -JL
Subject: Re: WHERE IS BRA ENVIABLE?
From: FORREST GUMP
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Date Posted: 03:39:53 03/27/07 ()
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John Leigh don pata am e go hide fos
FORREST
Subject: PMDC SAYS APPLICATIONS FOR VP POST ARE NOW OPEN!!!!
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 14:45:27 03/26/07 ()
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Is PMDC Serious????
The post of VP will go to the highest bidder.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Dumbo-Tumbo and Bangu Crooks
....................................
PMDC takes the running mate lead over other parties.
Teddy Foday-Musa
4 apply for PMDC running mate
The Leader of the Peoples Movement for Democratic Change (PMDC) party, Charles Francis Margai has disclosed that four people have so far applied to be his running mate. The four include Dauda Tombo Bangura; an accountant based in Maryland , USA , Dr. Soccoh Kabia, a medical doctor based in Georgia, USA; Mr. Abubakar Kamara, an engineer based in Northern California, USA; Dr. Osaio Kamara, a medical doctor from Kalangba Chiefdom who is based in Sierra Leone. The Party leader informed the press that the PMDC has set criteria for those wishing to be running mates, adding that he has submitted the four names to the party’s northern regional chairman, Bai Sama Sankoh who will look at all the curriculum vitae of the aspiring candidates. “After the completion of that process I will announce my running mate first week in April,” Margai said
Subject: John Leigh's lapses
From: John the flip flop
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Date Posted: 13:31:18 03/26/07 ()
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Forumites, please read John Leigh's own account; ". My THIRD FORCE articles targeted the Kabbah Administration."
John tell me, who is the second in command of the Kabbah administration?.
In what ticket Solomon Berewa ran when he becomes Vice President?.
When you throw mud at Kabbah, does it implies that solomon Berwea as a second in command is default of any blame?
Who Kabbah made the Chairman of all the International aid fund?.
JL, den say wae lepet wan lay kit, e mus shake in tail.
SLPP dae nah road 4 go july 2007.
Subject: Re: PMDC DUMBO LAPSES
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 14:40:34 03/26/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. John the flip flop:
That's the point you don't seem to get. Berewa is only #2. The Kabbah Administration is not his administration. He has no choice but to be 100% loyal to his boss and wait his turn. Whatever he did, he did under the supervision of his president.
The Berewa Administration is going to be different from the Kabbah Administration. The party has got the message from the suffering grassroots.
Besides, the fact that I am critical of the Kabbah Administration does not mean that Margai and his fahlahmahkahtah PMDC are the answer. The pmdc was born in crookedness for one-manic reason and too many crookish types and fulumunkus are involved.
Also, Mr. Margai needs to learn a thing or two before one can consider him seriously. Both him and his PMDC lacks the indicia of leadership.
In my opinion, Mr. Margai is not entitled to my support based on what I know personally of his background and his known public record.
Also, his campaign strategy of relying on throwing back at me or Berewa my criticisms of the Kabbah Administration as well as attempting to use Chief Norman's coffin to climb to victory is completely daft.
You just check with Mr. Astafulai!
I am waiting for his next installment. Thank you. JL
Subject: Re: PMDC DUMBO LAPSES
From: TEE
To: All
Date Posted: 15:50:23 03/26/07 ()
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I dont think Charles Margai is even thinking of you. So dont deceive yourself.
Subject: Re: PMDC DUMBO LAPSES
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 08:13:28 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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A lot you know! - JL
Subject: BREAKING NEWS SLPP CAUGHT RIGING ON COCORIOKO FORUM ELECTION
From: JUSTICE
To: All
Date Posted: 12:49:15 03/26/07 ()
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Can SLPP members not even be ashamed to rig on this forum.
These people are very terrible.
They carry corruption where ever they go. Just read below:
Re: COCORIOKO FORUM SURVEY - ELECTION - Sylvester Johnny 08:24:28 03/26/07 (2)
Re: COCORIOKO FORUM SURVEY - ELECTION - Sylvester Jojnny 09:52:43 03/26/07 (0)
He voted twice for BEREWA.
That is how they are planning to vote in JULY.
One man voting many times.
Albert could you please cancell the elections, because SLPP is going to win by fraud.
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS SLPP CAUGHT RIGING ON COCORIOKO FORUM ELECTION
From: Bobson Sesay
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Date Posted: 13:02:43 03/26/07 ()
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Bo nor begin cry foul before de elction begin...this just hows de SLPP will win 90% of the votes in the general and presidential elections. APC en PMDC go fet for the 10%..
Subject: IS THAT THE WAY TO VOTE Bobson? ONE MAN TWICE?
From: JUSTICE
To: All
Date Posted: 13:11:11 03/26/07 ()
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If that is thw way to vote, OK in this forum.
But mind you on JULY 28 in Sierra Leone, it will be one man one vote.
Subject: Re: IS THAT THE WAY TO VOTE Bobson? ONE MAN TWICE?
From: DBK
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Date Posted: 13:22:25 03/26/07 ()
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we kin cancel im vot, still de SLPP win...
even the APC agbagba dem fraid for vote that says alot about the party...
Subject: John Leigh-Kongosah; Una gi am Bench
From: Waraba
To: All
Date Posted: 11:10:12 03/26/07 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
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Message:
Dis Leigh borbor na kongosah peddler. e dey jomp from palar to palar with in lies. Dis borboh leigh dey pit political lies lekkeh the challenger's spaceship booster rocket behen! Dis kongosah mongar nor get lili shame seff. Di man don qualify for nobel prize for Kongosah.
Een lie liie mot noh dey set until e wan for drink water. for end e dry mot. Dis borboh leigh nah di most dangerous political Skunk cause he noh dey tap for kongosah say Berewa noh be SWEGBE. UNBORN PIKIN DEM KNOW SO BEREWA NAH SWEGBE but John Leigh nah bikful man so he non no dat!
Una gi am bench noh!
Waraba
Subject: Re: The Legend of John E. Leigh
From: Sengbe Wutehteh
To: All
Date Posted: 12:29:50 03/26/07 ()
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Message:
John Leigh is the MAN.
John Leigh knocked out Bra Yaya, and his akarta party with a left upper cut that sent them to the canvas never to wake up again.
John Leigh knocked out Pekin Margai Don Crase party with a right uppercut till the count of 1000. Dem nor grap yaite.
John Leigh knocked out his detractors with a combination of punches that were so devastating they will NEVER mess with him again.
Eh! John Leigh why u BAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDD so ba?
Indeed John Leigh is the MAN.
Don't ever mess with JOHN E. LEIGH.
For he is a BAAADDDDD Mother--- - shut your mouth Sengbe.
Subject: Re: The Legend of John E. Leigh
From: Dr
To: All
Date Posted: 02:12:11 03/27/07 ()
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Hmmmm.....John Leigh is the man.......How did you find that out
Subject: Re: The Legend of John E. Leigh
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 13:02:22 03/26/07 ()
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Sengbe was that yu?
Subject: Re: The Legend of John E. Leigh
From: Sengbe Wutehteh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:05:43 03/26/07 ()
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Yes Bra Cornie, that wuz moi.
You got any problems with "The Legend of John E. Leigh"?
Emersson Bockarie, here is another song for you - next album.
Subject: Re: The Legend of John E. Leigh
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 13:27:49 03/26/07 ()
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Yes Padre Pierre Sengbe,
That was TOI..... vous-même
Do I have any problems with "The Legend of Johnny E. Leigh"? Hell no!
Well, I don't have any problems with the ballad of ”Frankie and Johnny” either (he was her man, but he done her wrong.)
But I read what you wrote and smiled just anticipating the ”combination of punches that were so devastating they will NEVER mess with him again."
Subject: Re: John Leigh-Kongosah; Una gi am Bench
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 11:13:58 03/26/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Poor Waraba, please don't lose your mind. If it helps, I will drop out of this forum. - JL
Subject: Re: John Leigh-Kongosah; Una gi am Bench
From: Flip Flop
To: All
Date Posted: 11:36:24 03/26/07 ()
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Message:
that would be the best thing if you can manage to slip away from here.
You have made the dream to be a government official in Sierra leone scary and intimidating.
Are we not not capable as people to rule naturally. Why the bitter diatribes against a compatriot and his political conviction. How many people today are able o read and write in Sierra Leone?
Ain't you in Yonibana as a welder? Well, why are you falling in that trap to feel that you are a superior alternative to Charles Margai?.
You know all about suffering and what it means to achieve your goal!
Go back to the drawing board and learn to be a political savvy!
Subject: Re: John Leigh-Kongosah; Una gi am Bench
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 12:05:56 03/26/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Mr. Flip Flop:
You wrote:
"You have made the dream to be a government official in Sierra leone scary and intimidating."
You fellows must understand what you are getting into before you jump in, misled. What I am doing is excellent voter education for inexperienced people like yourself.
However, please do not get scared. No one is intimidating anyone. The truth is merely coming out in pieces as the circumstances dictate.
Find out the true facts and put two and two together for your own protection. Politicians lie about their record and capabilities. And when they get elected, they ruin our country.
In my opinion, your man is poorly qualified to lead. Please take your time and open your eyes before making a big mistake. Politics is not a bed of roses.
Thank you. -JL
Subject: Re: John Leigh-Kongosah; Una gi am Bench
From: John the flip flop
To: All
Date Posted: 12:19:17 03/26/07 ()
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You must be living in an illusive world to state that your attack on someone who has succeded as a lawyer at the Bar in Sierra leone is voter education before you sought economic refuge in America. You know nothing about Charles Margai who stays behind to defend the poor. You are not qualified to judge Charles Margai who has been a succesful lawyer at a time you choosed to hibernate in America.
You initiated a voter education against Berewa and it succeeds to bring awareness to the electorates.
Subject: Re: PMDC Hip-Hopper/Flip-Flopper Dunce
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 12:34:59 03/26/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
You do not reason intelligently. There is a slapper-flunky boy in your life and you don't even know it.
You are typical PMDCer - blind loyalty. Good luck in all your endeavors. -JL
Subject: Re: PMDC Hip-Hopper/Flip-Flopper Dunce
From: John the flip flop
To: All
Date Posted: 12:52:22 03/26/07 ()
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John, where is your diligence? It is very sad that you are not showing any steady application and effort to be honest.We all know about Berewa malediction through you and in a malignant manner you want us to believe that everything is well because John Leigh is part of the Berewa team.
John Leigh's paroxysm is crude and is partially derivative to puff his nothingness in politics.
A grumpy old man
Subject: Re: PMDC Hip-Hopper/Flip-Flopper Dunce
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:57:57 03/26/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. John the flop flop:
I have been completely honest with you and the others. Please listen with an open mind so that you may understand where I am coming from.
Before supporting Berewa, I carefully evaluated each and every candidate as well as the reputation of the each of the three political parties involved.
My carefully considered choice was Berewa by a very wide margin. Even with all his alleged faults, I am far more comfortable with him because of his background than any of the others. Additionally, SLPP, despite 2005 Makeni, is a far superior organization than any of the other parties.
It is my belief that I will never get comfortable with Mr. Margai, PMDC or the APC, although I could possibly get comfortable with Mr. Koroma as an individual.
PMDC was born in secret, very privately and not collegial, and in fraud - lies about Makeni were used to justify its coming to existence when it was a pre-planned deal to promote one man.
Moreover, dubious personalities and tribal types were intimately involved in its organization and management and those people are very closed to Mr. Margai who owns the party.
Margai himself, up close, is a very dull man, much too defensive and full of himself - in my opinion. Hence, PMDC is essentially a fahlahmahkahtah organization, lacking critical thinking analytical power. A party of dunce quality will never solved our country's problems.
Of course, there are some smart people in PMDC but the fahlahmahkahtah image appears insormountable!
To me, the way APC governed Sierra Leone and the dedication with which its leaders backed Johnny Paul's coupligan savages have left me with the lasting belief that the real APC is nothing but a wanton tribal criminal organization that should never again gain power in Sierra Leone.
In conclusion, I may be nothing to you, but never mind. No problem with your conclusion. What I do know is that I am very happy with myself. Thank you. -JL
Subject: Re: PMDC Hip-Hopper/Flip-Flopper Dunce
From: John the flip flop
To: All
Date Posted: 15:01:50 03/26/07 ()
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Message:
I cannot vouch for anyone but again there is nothing to validate your claim that Berewa is the best Sierra Leone can afford now, after twelve years of failing leadership. In a nutshell, Charles Margai is a household name in the Country's judicial circle. He is definitely a pace setter.Between the three, Solomon Berewa is a wild cat. You yourself told the World that Berewa is a dangerous man and he uses the funds provided by the International Community to award contracts to his cronies.
Unlike, the dunces you say surround PMDC, your SLPP is made up of rogue politicians. All the PMDC Officials you are decrying have never stolen Sierra Leone's fund. Why do poverty still run through the vein in the Country. It is because the Kabbah/Berewa administration is not serious to fight corruption.Has the poverty evaporated you brilliantly expressed in your piece, since you joined the Berewa campaign ?. No, it would not, because the NACSA projects are for the SLPP batoeliners, Santibokiats % Ayampie.
Jl, this is the 21 st century and there is no time for complacency!
The issue needs to be addressed in a correct way. All what the poor people need is a Leader with strong mind who will show new programmes. The idea of implementing world donors projects is nothing new. The people need a Leader when Libya or Malaysia doantes tractors, every community will benefit. The youths want to engage in agriculture. PMDC is taking human and material resource to boost social empowerment for our people.
PMDC is a class of strong and independent people. You do not have a monopoly on knowledge.
The third force idea is open to any Sierra leonean who can keep the majority and be a leader. It could be Mr XYZ. The social trend calls for change. each and everyone wants a new change. you cannot bickering. This is the fact.
Berewa is a hard sell to the public. Unwittingly,you strayed in the wrong direction as the good natured choose to cast Berewa out through the ballot. The future is bleak for your choice.
Subject: Re: PMDC Hip-Hopper/Flip-Flopper Dunce
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 15:50:02 03/26/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Dear Mr. John the flip flop:
You are way off base. Your logic is puzzling: E.g.
"In a nutshell, Charles Margai is a household name in the Country's judicial circle."
So what? What has a household name in judicial circles got to do with addressing the huge problems facing society? Besides, are you aware of the very poor quality of our judicial (or legal) circles.
Sierra Leone lawyers are notorious for postponing cases until the principals die. Isn't Margai Mr. Omery Golley's lawyer? What has he done for his client lately? How many motions has he filed? How many has he won? How many are on appeal? How long will Golley suffer pre-trial detention?
You claim that:
"Unlike, the dunces you say surround PMDC, your SLPP is made up of rogue politicians". I disagree. SLPP is not made of rogue politicians. True, there may be rogues within the party but there are decent people in there too and they constitute the vast majority. And I truly believe that any crooked type will not be in the incoming Berewa Administration. The party is phasing them out.
Next, besides dunces, PMDC has crookish people within its ranks also and I personally know some of them. I refer to one as Bangucrooks. The other is a disbarred, disrobed and defrocked lawyer who stole his client's money in Washington, DC. There are also numerous crooked harlot politicians in PMDC. Man, please get your facts right.
You'ved asked: "Why do poverty still run through the vein in the Country"? Please read my postings about APC's record in this area. Part of the poverty is also due to war damage. More important, Mr. Margai does not possess the education, training and experience in the areas necessary to bring wealth to Sierra Leone. He has no training in economics, finance, banking, international trade, foreign investments, international affairs, executive management and so on. He is totally inexperienced and uneducated in these areas.
You have seen the lack of activities with our brain- dead Freetown City Council and the Makeni Town Council. A PMDC government would be just as duncelike.
Corruption is a serious problem in Sierra Leone and I personally wished that the Kabbah administration could do more to contain this problem. Even so, your Mr. Margai does not have the monopoly in solving this problem. In fact, questions have been raised about the dubious integrity of his cabinet stewardship.
Also, your man sat in the cabinet during the oil exploration agreement debate but did nothing about it. He may never have understood the issue raised then. Your man seems to lack the requisite technical exposure to address such issues.
Your claim that PMDC is a class of strong and independent people is not true. PMDC is full of dunces, remedial flunkies, tombo-dumbo Bangucrooks, dafts, junior tribalists, inexperienced mental juniors, etc. It is a fahlahmahkahtah party. Very little original thinking went into organizing and managing your party. Also the quality of its suppoers appears low. Just see how you guys write in this forum: mostly childish stuff and rubbish couched in dunce argumentation. I am tired of reading PMDC crap.
I agree with you that we need change in Sierra Leone. Berewa and the SLPP will bring about the desired change without ruining the country because they are better suited for the tasks at hand. Flunky PMDC is NOT the answer. They don't have what is necessary. They are empty talkers: ar go do dis. Ar go do dat. Let them first tell us what they have ever done in their lives. Thank you. -JL
Subject: Re: PMDC Hip-Hopper/Flip-Flopper Dunce
From: TEE
To: All
Date Posted: 16:06:22 03/26/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
John Leigh. u are shameless to talk about fraud. From the top SLPP boss Kabbah to the US ambassador Jalloh, they are all fraudsters. YOu people are so shameless, we only hope that before you guys leave office, there is something in the state coffers. Thief thief SLPP
Subject: Re: PMDC Hip-Hopper/Flip-Flopper Dunce
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:16:09 03/26/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
TEE:
Please note that I am not a spokesman for the Administration.
Even so, you appear to be talking unsubstantiated rubbish just like a kiddie with junior mental faculties.
Your man is simply not qualified to lead. -JL
Subject: Re: PMDC Hip-Hopper/Flip-Flopper Dunce
From: gongoli
To: All
Date Posted: 15:25:04 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: mean@yahoo.com
Entered From: 80-47-225-56.lond-th.dynamic.dial.as9105.com at 80.47.225.56
Message:
John Leigh is going to Pa Kabba to tell him that he is being abused on cyberspace for the SLPP. Sense bord
Subject: Re: PMDC Hip-Hopper/Flip-Flopper Dunce
From: Cornelius
To: All
Date Posted: 14:40:21 03/26/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
“ is lacking critical thinking analytical power” seems to have been nullified by your next one line paragraph wherein you give due credit: ”Of course, there are some smart people in PMDC”
However it is “the fahlahmahkahtah image” that is causing perception problems- the New Broom promise from the Palm Tree…..
The image of -of “following” the SLPP?
Isn’t PMDC standing on its own legs (don’t say PMDC is only standing on the legs (and shoulders) of one man. He is much more than one man. As they say in krio, “Nah boy pikin! Nah man ehn af”
Subject: Re: PMDC Hip-Hopper/Flip-Flopper Dunce
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 14:55:26 03/26/07 ()
Email Address:
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Of course the SLPP of today has inherited an organsiational structure, which though oppressed during APC rule, nonetheless goes back to political organisation from the grassroots, throughout the land over many years before Inbdependence.
It is hardly to be expected that the pMDC has been born with the grass roots foundations in place, and then there is the participation/non-participation of the people and their chiefs.
Building an organisation takes time.
Here’s another one:
Subject: Re: PMDC Hip-Hopper/Flip-Flopper Dunce
From: Cornelius
To: All
Date Posted: 14:30:02 03/26/07 ()
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“ is lacking critical thinking analytical power” seems to have been nullified by your next one line paragraph wherein you give due credit: ”Of course, there are some smart people in PMDC”
However it is “the fahlahmahkahtah image” that is causing perception problems- the New Broom promise from the Palm Tree…..
The image of -of “following” the SLPP?
Isn’t PMDC standing on its own legs (don’t say PMDC is only standing on the legs (and shoulders) of one man. He is much more than one man. As they say in krio, “Nah boy pikin! Nah man ehn af”
Subject: Re: PMDC Hip-Hopper/Flip-Flopper Dunce
From: Una Go Shame
To: All
Date Posted: 12:43:07 03/26/07 ()
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PMDC will not even win Gbangbatoke usai Margai say e komot...
Subject: Re: John Leigh-Kongosah; Una gi am Bench
From: John the flip flop
To: All
Date Posted: 12:17:30 03/26/07 ()
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You must be living in an illusive world to state that your attack on someone who has succeded as a lawyer at the Bar in Sierra leone before you sought economic refuge in America. You know nothing about Charles Margai who stays behind to defend the poor. You are not qualified to judge Charles Margai who has been a succesful lawyer at a time you choosed to hibernate in America.
is voter education.
You initiated a voter education against Berewa and it succeeds to bring awareness to the electorates.
Subject: Re: PMDC FULUMUNKU
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 12:42:32 03/26/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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"You initiated a voter education against Berewa and it succeeds to bring awareness to the electorates."
WRONG. My THIRD FORCE articles targeted the Kabbah Administration. And I received the greatest compliment from rivals: flunkies and crookish types sought to steal the Third Force from me - a force of ideas that I helped to create.
They failed. Instead, the THIRD FORCE is alive and well and active inside the SLPP working to help unite the party for July 28, 2007. Good luck to you again. - JL
Subject: Re: PMDC FULUMUNKU
From: John the flip flop
To: All
Date Posted: 13:07:10 03/26/07 ()
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Forumites, please read JihnLeigh's own account; ". My THIRD FORCE articles targeted the Kabbah Administration."
John tell me, who is the second in command of the Kabbah administration?.
In what ticket Solomon Berewa ran when he becomes Vice President?.
When you throw mud at Kabbah, does it implies that solomon Berwea as a second in command is default of any blame?
Who Kabbah made the Chairman of all the International aid fund?.
JL, den say wae lepet wan lay kit, e mus shake in tail.
SLPP dae nah road 4 go july 2007.
Subject: Re: PMDC FULUMUNKU
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:17:52 03/26/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. John the flip flop:
That's the point you don't seem to get. Berewa is only #2. The Kabbah ADministration is not his administration. He has no choice but to be 100% loyal to his boss and waite his turn. Whatever he did, he did under the supervision of his president.
The Berewa Administration is going to be different from the Kabbah ADministration. The party has got the message from the suffering grassroots.
Besides, the fact that I am critical of the Kabbah Administration does not mean that Margai and his fahlahmahkahtah PMDC are the answer. The pmdc was born in crookedness for one-manic reason and too many crookish types and fulumunkus are involved.
Also, Mr. Margai needs to learn a thing or two before one can consider him seriously. Both him and his PMDC lacks the indicia of leadership.
In my opinion, Mr. Margai is not entitled to my support based on what I know personally of his background and his known public record.
Also, his campaign strategy of relying on throwing back at me or Berewa my criticisms of the Kabbah Administration as well as attempting to use Chief Norman's coffin to climb to victory is completely daft. You just check with Mr. Astafulai!
I am waiting for his next installment. Thank you. JL
Subject: Re: PMDC FULUMUNKU
From: lordamacy
To: All
Date Posted: 12:51:18 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: lordamacy@hotmail.com
Entered From: 80-47-225-56.lond-th.dynamic.dial.as9105.com at 80.47.225.56
Message:
John Leigh, you lost your deposit....go away. You are looking for position in an imaginary future government. Stay in America and enjoy your retirement....will you never learn? Come to Sierra Leone and campaign with your retirement funds.......we go eat am ma!!! maybe you did not learn from the Makeni convention........we await you......lie man
Subject: Re: PMDC FULUMUNKU
From: TEE
To: All
Date Posted: 16:12:37 03/26/07 ()
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John Leigh, I think the san san boys are doing great. They are bank rolling PMDC form the small money they earn as san san boys, and guess what, they are doing great. They are not using money meant for developing the country, to camapign.
Subject: Re: PMDC FULUMUNKU
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:31:00 03/26/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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TEE:
Please, please do not exploit our san san boys.
Their daily existence is one of extreme hardship and suffering. The little money they earn ought therefore to go to help feed and house their families and themselves. To take their widow's might and invest in a flunky political campaign under the leadership of a highly privileged erudite, brilliant lawyer who feels he has a right to charge $50,000 for his just one of dumbo services is unconscionable.
Why are you guys so mean? Isn't this oppression?
Why don't you let the fatsos tombo-dumbos in your dunce organization forget about lunch or six-inches steaks for dinner and donate the savings on behalf of san san boys in your no-win campaign?
Politicians ought to stop taking. They should give instead. Thank you. -JL
Subject: Re: John Leigh-Kongosah; Una gi am Bench
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 11:40:24 03/26/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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All I am doing is voter education. Stop the lies and faulty analyses and I will disappear into the sunset. But continue and you will soon realize that I am totally tire-proof. The last word will be mine. -JL
Subject: Re: John Leigh-Kongosah; Una gi am Bench
From: boli
To: All
Date Posted: 14:56:55 03/27/07 ()
Email Address: boli@yahoo.com
Entered From: 80-47-225-56.lond-th.dynamic.dial.as9105.com at 80.47.225.56
Message:
You cant win an election yet you want to educate other people about elections? go away now or you will be tired
Subject: Re: John Leigh-Kongosah; Una gi am Bench
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 11:26:37 03/26/07 ()
Email Address:
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Don't drop out, drop in....
Subject: Re: John Leigh-Kongosah; Una gi am Bench
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 11:32:51 03/26/07 ()
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ah dae wait, ah heng bazz
Subject: Re: John Leigh-Kongosah; Una gi am Bench
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 11:30:20 03/26/07 ()
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and paddle your own canoe best strokes forward, navigate
Subject: "PRESIDENT" CHARLES MARGAI, PLEASE TELL US IT IS NOT TRUE!
From: Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS
To: All
Date Posted: 10:47:33 03/26/07 ()
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"Unlike flunky boy, I and and others took Makeni squarely on the chin like men should. We never used it to fake an excuse to set up our own party and then pretend to leave SLPP on account of Makeni.
Such is exactly what the PMDC flunky boys and junior tribalists did when announcing the existence of their previously secretly organized one-manic, privately-owned, fahlahmahkahtah party to further the empty dynastic over-ambition of a form four flunky belonging to their tribe.
This is a flunky who slapped the principal - a Revernd Father who sacrificed his life to civilize people like him - simply because he was denied favored treatment after flunking twice in form four.
This is the same dumbo flunky who wants his superiors to serve under his dumb self to boost him image and power.
This is the same flunky boy who shamelessly used Chief Norman's, Dr. Jonah's and JL's name in vain to boost his chances for public acceptance.
This is the same flunky who wants to set up a dictatorship in the country - just as he has done with his one-manic, private ownership party.
This is the same flunky who has surrounded himself with disbarred, disrobed and defrocked thieving lawyers, opportunistic harlot politicians, remedial dunces, flunky worshippers, junior tribalists, relatives, koemannehs, aunts, uncles, sisters, brothersm, etc. and tombo-dumbo munku-dunku bangucrooks". (E. LEIGH)
Subject: Re: "PRESIDENT" CHARLES MARGAI, PLEASE TELL US IT IS NOT TRUE!
From: Cornelius
To: All
Date Posted: 16:06:30 03/26/07 ()
Email Address:
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Heavy release of carbon dioxide
I hope you're satisfied.
Subject: Re: "PRESIDENT" CHARLES MARGAI, PLEASE TELL US IT IS NOT TRUE!
From: wasimbolo
To: All
Date Posted: 19:56:25 03/26/07 ()
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mORE LIKE aMMONIA
Subject: Those who live in Glass houses....
From: DBK
To: All
Date Posted: 09:56:50 03/26/07 ()
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PMDC and APC. be warned.... Do not say if ar bin know....We will come after you with with everything at our disposal. We are prepared to defend our party and our Leader....
Subject: Re: Those who live in Glass houses....
From: Watasie Stone
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Date Posted: 16:51:07 03/26/07 ()
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Even with Violence?
Subject: Re: Those who live in Glass houses....
From: NAR U SABI
To: All
Date Posted: 05:32:19 03/27/07 ()
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NAR U SABI
Subject: THE TRUTH "DIED" WITH CHIEF HINGA NORMAN; WE WERE ROBBED!
From: Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS
To: All
Date Posted: 09:33:53 03/26/07 ()
Email Address: RNMDTWO@YAHOO.COM
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70. "Although the relationship between the Commission and the Special Court was
mostly cordial, tensions arose following the refusal of the Special Court to permit
the Commission to hold public hearings with the detainees held in its custody.
The President of the Appeals Chamber denied the hearings because of their
public character and because they would appear to mete out justice by reaching
findings of fact, which was, according to Judge Robertson, the ‘special duty’ of
the Special Court. The decision rejected the right of the detainees to testify in an
OPEN and TRANSPARENT manner before the TRC and DENIED the right of the Sierra
Leonean people to see the process of truth and reconciliation done in relation to
the detainees. The Commission disagrees with Judge Robertson’s conclusion
and considers that it does not sufficiently take into account the special role and
contribution of truth commissions in building accountability and in the search for
peace and reconciliation".(SLTRC REPORT)
Subject: Re: THE TRUTH "DIED" WITH CHIEF HINGA NORMAN; WE WERE ROBBED!
From: Cornelius
To: All
Date Posted: 16:02:15 03/26/07 ()
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That was heavy
Subject: Re: THE TRUTH "DIED" WITH CHIEF HINGA NORMAN; WE WERE ROBBED!
From: M. Alieu iscandari esq
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Date Posted: 16:49:35 03/26/07 ()
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he had an opportunity to tell the truth at the special court whenthe defense opened its case in chief. Did he fail to do so? If yes then he would have similarly failed to tell his truth at the truth and reconcilliation commission. fact is that the "Truth" would have sunk any of theser people and if I were their lawyer I wouldnt have them testify.
Subject: To Justice ( about "Crase Man")
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 09:22:19 03/26/07 ()
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Justice, you're welcome. I’m here because I want to be here. We are constantly under observation. It’s no problem locating or identifying he who calls himself “Crase Man” and dealing with him savagely, if need be.
I’ve gone through a few of these items:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Sierra+Leone++celebrates+bicentenary+of+slavery&meta=
Benjamin Disraeli said:” The greatest good you can do for another is not just to share your riches but to reveal to him his own.”
It's injustice that has to be brought to law and order, so that civilisation may flourish. I have nothing against Crase Man's bout of lurid fantasy - what he cannot achieve in life is probably fulfilled in his wish-fulfilling dreams. There are Nigerians, Ghanaians and Kenyans who look in and shake their heads in dismay, and ask me ”Is this how the Sierra Leone people are?"
I tell them, that’s just the riff-raff who are probably the offspring of some menstruating harlot and one of her customers who grew up in DEMS Remand Home for juvenile delinquents. Then such behaviour by the one who identifies himself as Crase Man and writes under that name is understandable. There is no point in having a dialogue with such a one. What would we discuss when everything he says is unmotivated Crase Man Poetry, without rime or reason?
Yes, some of us are in mental asylums where the act out their fantasises of being Napoleon, Jesus, John Holmes, fukkying this and fukkying that, but in real life they don't have the necessary winning approach , charisma, charm or even desperado rarayman manners to go for it to even crack a joke that would make her laugh
It is the aim of any serious writer to want to overthrow corruption and in that I am united with you Mr. Justice.
Rest assured that after along silence, the first few pages that you will read in my blog will do just that. Apologies won’t save them. It’s a great responsibility and I haven’t decided yet. If the SLPP is the best alternative all said and done, then I won’t.
Here are two interesting stories:
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20061231/int/int1.html
http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Abolition/
These words are by Moses Maimonides and could be looked at a little more closely:
” Do not consider it proof just because it is written in books, for a liar who will deceive with his tongue will not hesitate to do the same with his pen.”
I did include this before. Here it is again:
Subject: Re: To Justice ( about "Crase Man")
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 10:46:17 03/26/07 ()
Email Address:
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A little bit about Sierra Leone here, with forum decorum observed, of course. It's so easy to be nice.
As Bob Marley's " Could you be loved? Then be loved!"
Subject: Re: To Justice ( about "Crase Man")
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 10:50:51 03/26/07 ()
Email Address:
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Sorry about that. It's a lot clearer here:
Subject: TO JIMMY KANDEH: DEFENDING THE R.U.F.
From: FARRAH MARRAH
To: All
Date Posted: 09:08:01 03/26/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 134.113.7.99
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Jimmy,
"Now I know you are William "Tolo" Bangura, a political miscreant of the first order, I rest my case."
I do not know who William "Tolo" Bangura is but if the definition of a "miscreant" is a rebel I am delighted to don that hat.
"The last time I heard about you was when you were listed as the RUF representative at a US State Department conference on SL (2000) but you were smart enough to duck the meeting - none of your other RUF buddies showed up and truth be told some of us were really spoiling for a showdown."
If I had been given that invitation I would have PROUDLY DEFENDED the Revoultionary United Front. But bear in mind I condone neither the atrocities nor the destruction of private and public properties. Being a student of SL's history and politics, atrocities and destruction of property are not UNIQUE to the R.U.F.
It was a "showdown" that your comrades and you would have lost. In the future you will have that opportunity.
"What a waste Tolo - your progress must never come at the expense of your people but that's what you settled for when you joined the RUF."
I love SL more than anybody else, but there comes a time in someone's life where you have to fight FIRE WITH FIRE.