Subject: APC DIFFERENCES RESOLVED
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Date Posted: 13:59:52 03/13/07 ()
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Awareness Times News Briefs from Sierra Leone
By Akintunde Joye
Mar 13, 2007, 18:27
APC’s Differences Resolved
The legal wrangling between the leader of the APC, Ernest Bai Koroma and other stalwart party members has reportedly finally come to an end. All parties to the conflict have now come to the conclusion that internal rife within the party would not put them in any firm footing come July 2007. According to sources, lawyers Osho Williams, Eddie Turay and Dr. Moses Sesay, (the litigious side) have decided to let bygones be bygones. This is a welcome news to all party supporters.
Subject: IT IS DEMOCRACY AT WORK - TWO WEEKS AGO IT WAS PMDC, NOW APC
From: JUSTICE
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Date Posted: 14:12:42 03/13/07 ()
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It is no surprise to most supporters of the APC. It was simply democracy at work. This just shows that no one in the new APC can do whatever he or she likes. Their is a constitution and everyone has to abide to it. However it is good news that the problem has been resolved. This is a signal to the voters that democracy and unity is prevailing in the party. The examples of the APC and PMDC should be followed by other political parties.
Hip Hip Hip, Hurray!, for Sierra Leone politics.
Subject: MARGAI STOLE THE DAY
From: Chief Bomborlai
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Date Posted: 13:36:49 03/13/07 ()
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At late Hinga Norman’s funeral…more gains for Peoples Movement for Democratic Change
According to the Exclusive newspaper, Presidential candidate for the Peoples Movement for Democratic Change (PMDC) party, Charles Francis Margai was almost ambushed by well wishers and sympathisers after the funeral service of the late Chief Sam Hinga Norman in the Southern city of Bo. The Exclusive newspaper writes: - “Margai was held hostage for about 45 minutes by mourners countrywide who admired the challenges he took to ensure that Norman receives a funeral befitting a hero. Mr. Mohamed Suma, one of the leaders of the funeral ceremony maintained that they are highly impressed by the latest development and contribution Margai made towards the funeral by footing the bills to convey the late Norman to Bo and eventually to his final resting place. Margai donated five million Leones to the bereaved family and vowed to respect the late man as a hero.” In a related development members of government and the ruling SLPP who attempted to attend the funeral were asked to leave by the bereaved family as they vow not “to forgive the party and government for the humiliating death of a man who fought so had to keep them (SLPP) in power.”
Subject: Mrs.KOROMA en Mrs.MARGAI - GET ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL NOW!
From: JUSTICE
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Date Posted: 13:19:52 03/13/07 ()
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Hello Mrs. KOROMA and Mrs. MARGAI, please get om the campaign trail with your husbands now.
There are a lot of women out there who want to see women actively involve in politics.
The women of Sierra Leone will back you where ever you turn up.
The forthcoming election is going to be very decisive and every effort is needed by all.
By playing an active role in the campaign will help the parties of your husbands very much.
Women all over the world are now aware of their contribution in nation building.
Look at LIBERIA and GERMANY. They are both headed by women.
France is also on the road for a women president.
Women have been far too long marginalised in Sierra Leones politics.
Now is your time.
The balance of power lies in your hands and in the hands of the KONO DISTRICT.
History will repeat itself.
Subject: Why NPRC soldiers should be held!
From: Justice
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Date Posted: 12:24:09 03/13/07 ()
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he Commission finds that the NPRC regime was responsible in December 1992 for the execution of 26 persons, including a former Inspector-General of Police and a former Brigade Commander for the Eastern Province, without due process of law and in flagrant violation of international standards. The NPRC’s attempt to justify these executions retrospectively by decree, on the basis that the 26 were alleged coup plotters, was an unlawful abuse of executive power.
Subject: Re: Why NPRC soldiers should be held!
From: Fifty Fifty
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Date Posted: 13:05:52 03/13/07 ()
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Some of the people shot by the NPRC were bastards. They killed other people the same way the NPRC killed them. Who cares how Bambay Kamara died? The fellow killed many people through corruption. It's 50-50
Subject: NO MOSES LAW FIFTY FIFTY!!!!!
From: JUSTICE
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Date Posted: 13:25:04 03/13/07 ()
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I think that we should not apply moses law . If we do, then we will always live in chaos. It will be law of the jungle and the strong will prevail.
Let there be accountability so that people will be held responsible for their acts whenever they are in power.
Subject: Zimbabwe.........
From: KLA
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Date Posted: 11:57:08 03/13/07 ()
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Thug rule,as practised in Zimbabwe,almost claimed the lives of Zimbabweans brave enough to protest conditions in their land.
How will the world react to events in ZIMBABWE?
This is not about mugabe per se, but respect for the rules of law and International Human rights conventions.
Shame on Mugabe and co.
TSTM
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Subject: SLPP findings
From: Justice
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Date Posted: 11:07:52 03/13/07 ()
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The SLPPGovernment was remiss in allowing sucha high degree of ambiguity to develop around the dual role of Chief SamHinga Norman as Deputy Minister of Defence and National Co-ordinator ofthe Civil Defence Forces (CDF). Most soldiers perceived Hinga Norman’srole as being highly partisan in favour of theCDF. The failure on the part of the executive to address thesenegative perceptions in the military contributed significantly to themilitary coup of 25 May 1997.
Subject: SLPP findings
From: Justice
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Date Posted: 11:06:10 03/13/07 ()
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The Commission finds the SLPP Governmentresponsible for carrying out the arbitrary arrest and detention of alarge number of citizens in violation of their constitutional rights from1998 onwards. Many of these arrests and detentions, as well asthe prosecutions and trials of this period were politically motivated,representing a denial of basic rights. The Commission finds thatthe Court Martial of 37 soldiers of the SLA during 1998, resulting in theexecution of 24 of them, was conducted in contravention of international human rights standards.
Subject: Re: SLPP findings
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 12:12:19 03/13/07 ()
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Justice,
A few of us did not forget. We are only waiting for the appropriate time to get Kabbah and Berewa arrested and put on trial in the Hague.
I do not want to write more.
Yaya
Subject: Re: SLPP findings
From: curious
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Date Posted: 14:02:46 03/13/07 ()
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Can we say likewise for APC? Including some opf you opn this forum?
Subject: Liberia: U.S. Human Rights Report Indicts Govt
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Liberia: U.S. Human Rights Report Indicts Govt
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The Inquirer (Monrovia)
March 13, 2007
Posted to the web March 13, 2007
Morrison O.G. Sayon
The United States Embassy near Monrovia has revealed that corruption and impunity still continue in many levels of the Unity Party-led government.
In its 2006 Human Rights Reports on Liberia, which was released yesterday in Monrovia, the US Embassy noted that beside the high level of corruption in government, several other problems still persist in some areas of government.
The reports named some of the problems that still persist in the UP-led government as the increase in death from mob violence, police harassment and intimidation of detainees and citizens, while prison conditions remain harsh and incidents of arbitrary arrests and detentions still occur.
The reports also pointed out that lengthy pretrial detentions and denial of due process and fair public trial were problems. According to the report, officers of the Liberia National Police (LNP) on several occasions assaulted journalists and human rights workers, while some incidents of trial-by-ordeal were reported.
On the issue of women, the US Human Rights reports added that there was violence against women, especially reports of rape. "The practice of female genital mutilation (FGM) remains widespread," the reports pointed out.
The reports at the same time, disclosed that child abuse, trafficking in persons and racial and ethnic discrimination were problems while instances of child labor were also reported. It noted that child neglect and child abuse continue to be problems.
Stressing on the level of corruption in government, the US Human Rights reports revealed that corruption remains endemic at middle and lower levels of government due to low civil servants' salaries, a culture of impunity and long delays in payment of wages. The reports noted that financial management decreased considerably at a macro level, but that there was still a serious problem with lack of accountability within government agencies.
The reports added that there was a high widespread public perception of corruption in all branches of government. According to the reports, some high level government officials, including the President were publicly committed to fighting corruption while all political appointees were supposed to publicly declare their assets upon confirmation, but only some appointees complied.
The US reports maintained that the government dismissed or suspended a number of high-level officials for corruption. It noted that in May 28, 2006, the Ministry of Public Works dismissed its Comptroller for stealing the Ministry's fund to pay for a personal generator. In June 8, 2006, the Head Postmaster, Wleh Freeman, Director General of Post Joseph S. Gbemelen Jr., and Assistant Director General for Expedited Mail Services Emmanuel Z. Browne, were suspended for three months for administrative malfeasance.
"In June 10, 2006, the President dismissed the Chief Medical Officer of Liberia and the Deputy Minister of health, Benson Barh, Assistant Minister of Commerce & Industry Aaron Mathis, and Director of the Civil Aviation Authority, James Attoh. A number of lower level Ministry of Finance employees were also dismissed the same day, while, in June 12, eight postal employees faced prosecution for mail theft and on July 30, Deputy Police Director, Al Karley was dismissed for misappropriating 2,495 gallons of gasoline.
The reports among other things noted that international financial controllers were placed under GEMAP in key ministries and state-owned enterprises that helped change financial management, purchasing, and contracting practices and instituted financial controls that increased government revenues and helped to curb corrupt practices. However, according to the reports, single-source procurement and suspect concessions and contracts remain a serious concern.
Subject: To what extent is political prutality on opposition Leaders?
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Date Posted: 08:37:22 03/13/07 ()
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Zimbabwe's opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai, Taken to hospital after being manhandle by detention officers.
How far is too far:
Subject: Re: To what extent is political prutality on opposition Leaders?
From: Ibrahim Fofana
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Date Posted: 09:37:04 03/13/07 ()
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I am shocked that you are asking this question, Kalawa. As a member of the APC, do you know what your party did to the opposition and others(including students) who were opposed to them. You are a shameless man.
Subject: To what extent is political prutality on opposition Leaders?
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Date Posted: 08:29:16 03/13/07 ()
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Zimbabwe's opposition leader, Morgan Tsvangirai violently sent in the hospital.
Check link below:
Subject: Golley admitted at Choitrams Hospital
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Golley admitted at Choitrams Hospital
Former spokesperson for the Revolutionary United Front (RUF), Mr. Omrie Golley, who is currently facing treason charges is currently admitted at the Choitrams Hospital after falling ill for the past weeks.
Golley was whisked to the Choitrams Hospital following a letter from the Prison’s Medical Doctor M.L. Conte-Coker to the Director of Prisons, Mr. F.S. Conteh, stating that Golley is suffering from severe unstable hypertension and angina pestoris and that the ventricle of his heart is hypertrophied.
A release from Mr. Golley’s lawyer, James Oury, says that his client should obtain urgent tests relating to his heart for which there are no available facilities in Sierra Leone and failure to provide such treatment immediately could be life threatening, writes Awoko.
Subject: HINGA went for hip surgery and now GOLLEY for heart surgery?
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 10:45:24 03/13/07 ()
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Believe it or not, they will tell us very soon that Golley should undergo a heart surgery.
After which they will say that the surgery went alright; but as we all know, heart surgery is very complicated so he died of some sort of medical complications.
They will use all types of medical terms. Some that even donot exist.
May god help him.
Subject: Re: HINGA went for hip surgery and now GOLLEY for heart surgery?
From: Me taya
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Date Posted: 13:36:19 03/13/07 ()
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...and ofcourse his death will be ...'of natural causes". and after a week, we will begin to see pictures of a ten-star choithram hospital on the internet where Golley died.
Subject: Re: HINGA went for hip surgery and now GOLLEY for heart surgery?
From: Shek Sesay
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Date Posted: 10:48:48 03/13/07 ()
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Shek Sesay, get a life. You freaking coward. You tribalistic idiot that is well known at Leonenet LUMBC. You shameless old fool.
Subject: Re: HINGA went for hip surgery and now GOLLEY for heart surgery?
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Date Posted: 11:10:55 03/13/07 ()
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SA KONDEY....I am lost please tell me who are 'THEY' you are referring to.
The Chief Hinga was in the care and custody of the Special Court, an International body, while Golley is in the care of the Sa Lone prison services....so who are these THEY?
Are you just another conspiracy theorist, a simple mischief maker, a pratt, someone who is completely deranged or just an absolute idiot? Either way, Sa Lone does not need people like you right now.
Subject: Re: HINGA went for hip surgery and now GOLLEY for heart surgery?
From: JOJOMA
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Date Posted: 11:13:12 03/13/07 ()
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Golley is lucky to be in salone. Wow, this man is now at hill station clinic getting medical help. Salone is not that bad after all. He is lucky he is not in Zimbabwe, lek Mugabe don cut en waist.
Subject: YOUR ARTICLE IS WORTH REPLYING - JOJOMA
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 11:19:49 03/13/07 ()
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You are right JOJOMA.
The comparison is very fair.
I only reply to articles that are worth.
Their are many articles on the forum, but I give my response to constructive ones even if someone is critical or does not agree with me.
One cannot compare what is happening in Sierra Leone to Zimbabwe.
Rightly said, he would have been long gone if he was in Zimbabwe.
Thank you very much for your odservation
Subject: SHEK SESAY - IT's A NAME THAT IS PART AND PARCEL OF YOU
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 10:57:44 03/13/07 ()
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Are you ashamed of beign called Shek Sesay or you want to disowned that name and hang it on others?
It will not work.
We are happy that you are using it on this forum.
It is a very good name your parents gave you; I donot know why you want to abandon it.
I beg you to please continue with your name.
It does not matter what you say on this forum SHEK SESAY.
Finally I thank you for having such a name.
Donot change it please
Subject: Re: SHEK SESAY - IT's A NAME THAT IS PART AND PARCEL OF YOU
From: Shek Sesay
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Date Posted: 11:00:24 03/13/07 ()
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Shek Sesay,
You have been exposed.The mask is now out. You APC tribalistic idiot. Get a life, you freaking waste of space.
Subject: THANK's SHEK SESAY , WE KNOW YOU, YOU WILL NOT HIDE, BYE BYE
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 11:08:23 03/13/07 ()
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SHEK SESAY, all said and done, you are known as SHEK SESAY on this forum.
I will never waiste my precious time with you again on this forum because your brain is too narrow for discussions.
You went to other forums with the same habits and now you are here.
COCORIOKO is heavy for you.
Their are men on this side of the aile, isn't it?
I will be happy that you continue idling with your name on this forum.
Bye bye YAH?
Subject: Re: THANK's SHEK SESAY , WE KNOW YOU, YOU WILL NOT HIDE, BYE BYE
From: Shek Seay
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Date Posted: 11:10:28 03/13/07 ()
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Shek Sesay,
get a life. You are shek Sesay, the tribalistic idiot of leonenet and not Sa Konday.
Subject: No end in sight to APC’s internal squabbles
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No end in sight to APC’s internal squabbles
While the flag bearer of the opposition All People’s Congress (APC) Party, Hon. Ernest Bai, Koroma is tottering the length and breath of the country canvassing support to clinch the forth coming presidential and parliamentary elections, the dissident faction within the party are plotting his down fall.
The APC has been at war with itself over the past four years over the interpretation of the party’s constitution, which has given rise to the emergence of two factions, the old guards and the new guards. The Ernest Koroma faction belonging to the new guards are adamant not to yield to the demands of the old guards spear headed by erudite lawyer Eddie Turay. To put an end to the party’s internal squabbles with a view to enhance a smooth democratic transition in the country, the Political Party’s Registration Commission (PPRC), has consented to mediate into the crisis surrounding the party.
A publication in the For Di People says, the PPRC in an attempt to clarify the origin of the problem emanating from the APC 1995 constitution stated that the said constitution should be the one to be used by the current APC and the structure and membership of the same 1995 constitution should be in charge of the APC now and not the current APC executive led by Ernest Koroma. If that is so, then Ernest Koroma will be automatically disqualified to lead the party to the 2007 polls.
This publication has infuriated the Party’s Secretary General Victor Foh who reacted angrily in the Awareness Times by referring to the article as the “writer’s figment of imagination” and that any attempt to exclude Ernest Korma from the elections will be “disastrous” for the country. Victor Foh says there has been no decision yet into the APC impasse and that the writer is a mere trouble shooter.
The PPRC will meet with the two factions today, Tuesday 13 March, to examine the critically the 1995 constitution of the party to know whether there have been further breaches and also whether the current executive is operating under the same constitution or any other for that mater.
In a desperate attempt to settle the party’s feud internally according to a publication in the New Citizen senior members of the party have decided to bring to two factions together by recommending that the old guards should be part of the National Advisory Council, the highest body in the party, as a sign of reconciliation.
Subject: Berewa rule will heap greater damnation for Sierra Leone
From: Point
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Date Posted: 04:36:24 03/13/07 ()
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If Berewa will use arm twisting kangaroo court to kill his compatriots,what guarantee does the average Sierra Leoneans have if he wins 2007 elections.
The signs are cler. Berewa is not a residential material. Every corner excpt the few traditional SLPP base who are standing behind Berewa who as a lieutenant to Tejan Kabbah never fulfilled their promise to achieve food security for the poor.
How can a governmnet that the people gave massive support to rule for the past twelve years, has not managed to transform their lifes inspite of theInternational community colossal financial support. Yet what the people of Sierra Leone have got in return for their upport to the SLPP is a filty Country without no safe drinking water, poor housing and massive unemployment among the youths.
Instead of good services, the SLPP corrupt prone officials are driving flashy jeeps, building big houses, converting public land, and using intimidation and deception to hoodwink prospective voters.
The World Bank sponsored NACSA headed by Kabbah's nephew, Kanja Sesay is supporting projects in areas where the PC's are openly supporting Berewa.
We are not fools. If Berewa thinks the International Community will give him the Presidency in July, he needs to hide under a rock because we will rsist any intimidation and plans to rig the elections in Berewa's favour.
Why would Sierra Leoneans vote for an SLPP that has failed to deliver on its promises? Why will the people vote for Berewa who has stained his hands with blood of his compatriots? Why will the Country wants a leader who has given it to the gods?
Kabbah/Berewa compromised Sierra leone's values as they kill everyone who challenges their authority
How will Sierra Leone move forward if he has a leader that seeks blood instead of compassion?
Are the voters lack any moral values to vote for a governmnet that has divided loyalty and devotion in the Country?
Twelve years is a preety long time and it means that change is needed for a new team.
Why will the people want to vote for an SLPP that has made Sierra Leone to lose her citizens in war, revenge and intimidation?
What has Sierra Leoneans benefited from the SLPP twelve years rule?
Who sacrificed the most to maintain the peace? Ain't the people of Sierra leone mourning their loved ones and stand up against the warring factions?
Kabbah did not achieve peace for Sierra Leone, he was forced to accept a peace doctrine.
Solomon Berewa is a vindictive man and it is inconceivable for any Country to thrive when its leaders adore blood, malice and revenge.
Therefore, the steps to remove Berewa must start with courage.
2007 is in the making for a new and enterprising Sierra Leone.
Subject: LETS LOOK FOREWARD
From: ARTHUR TUCKER
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Date Posted: 03:09:24 03/13/07 ()
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I THINK WE SHOULD STOP THIS HINGA NORMAN DEBATE AND LOOK FOR WAYS FOREWARD. HE IS DEAD AND BURIED, AND THE MASTER IS DOING HIS WORK. IF HE WAS A HERO HE WILL BE JUDGE AS A HERO, IF HE WAS A MUDERER, HE WILL BE JUDGE AS ONE BY GOD ALMIGHTY. WHAT WE SHOULD ALL CONCENTRATE ON IS WHAT WE WILL DO TO SAVE OUR NATION. THIS HINGA NORMAN ISSUE IS NOT A WAY FOREWARD. I THINK IT WAS AGREED THAT ALL THOSE WHO WERE MEMBERS OF THE WARRING FACTIONS IN SIERRA LEONE WERE FORGIVING AND INTEGREATED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, WHICH I THINK WAS THE RIGHT THING. WE HAVE TO LEARN FROM THOSE MISTAKES AND MADE SURE THEY NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN. WE SHOULD STOP HOLDING GRIEVANCES AGAINST EACH OTHER,OR ELSE THINGS WILL GO BACK TO WERE WE WERE. LETS FORGIVE, EVEN IF WE DONT FORGET. WHAT WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING IS WAYS TO IMPROVE SIERRA LEONE, WHAT WE CAN CONTRIBUTE. I BELONG TO A POLITICAL PARTY, BUT MY PRAYER IS THAT WE HAVE A LEADER THAT HAVE THE COUNTRY AT HEART, SOMEONE WHO IS GOD FEARING. I PUT MY COUNTRY BEFORE THE PARTY. IF MY LEADER DOESN'T HAVE THE COUNTRY AT HEART AND GOD FEARING, LET HIM NOT WIN, SO WITH ALL THE OTHERS. WE HAVE TO THINK OF GENERATIONS TO COME, AND IT HAVE TO START NOW. SO MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS LET UNITE AND FIGHT FOR ONE THING, SIERRA LEONE.
Subject: Zapetero Spain's visionary leader
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Africa and Europe set for tunnel link
By Richard Hamilton
BBC News, Tangiers, Morocco
Tangier port
Spain and Morocco have traditionally been linked by ferry
Plans to link Europe to Africa via a tunnel are gathering pace.
The Moroccan government has been holding talks with its Spanish counterparts to start the project, which would consist of a railway beneath the Strait of Gibraltar carrying freight, passengers and cars.
Click here to see the proposed design of the tunnel
Click here to see the proposed route of the tunnel
Work is expected to start in 2008.
The ferry between Tangiers in Morocco and southern Spain is the traditional way people have travelled from Africa to Europe.
But that could change if a tunnel is built between the two continents.
If that is the case, Africa and Europe, which split apart millions of years ago, could soon be joined together again permanently via a tunnel.
The man entrusted with designing the tunnel is the veteran Swiss engineer Giovanni Lombardi.
He has already been involved with many great projects, including the Gothard Pass tunnel and the Mont Blanc tunnel in Switzerland.
But he says this one may be his toughest assignment yet.
"No works in the world compare to this one," he said.
"There are a lot of challenges. First of all the sea at this point is 300m (1,000ft) deep - about five to six times deeper than the [English] Channel Tunnel.
"Then there is the geological conditions. There are quite a lot of tectonic movements betweens the African and the European plates. So there would be quite a lot of movements in the earth, of stresses and so on."
Machinery on a cliff top outside Tangiers
The exploratory equipment looks basic
On a cliff top outside Tangiers stands a rusty frame with cables and weights. It may not look very much but this is the start of a shaft that descends 300m below sea level, and this is where scientists and engineers are examining the sea bed to see how difficult it will be to drill into the rock.
The team is lead by engineer Jillali Chafik from the Moroccan research team SNED.
"At the moment we are carrying out the last studies into the sea bed which hold the key for the railway tunnel," he said.
"These studies should be finished by the end of 2007. We are looking at how the tunnel will actually work and the amount of traffic that will use the tunnel, once it starts."
Political will
The blueprint for the tunnel envisages two tubes for train lines beneath the Strait of Gibraltar, with an emergency or service tunnel in between them.
BBC graphic of cross-section of proposed Spain-Morocco tunnel
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Like the Eurotunnel project, the trains would carry passengers as well as cars.
It has been talked about since the early 1980s, but the Moroccans say this time there is the political will. They are now in the final stages of the feasibility study which will be completed by the end of the year, with construction starting soon after.
Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero recently visited Morocco and said that Spain was fully committed to the project.
"It will be a great symbol of our times," he said.
"It will change the face of Europe and Africa. With support from members of the European Union, we can build this historic connection between the two continents."
Morocco's minister for transport, Karim Ghellab, says there would be huge economic benefits for his country.
"It's clearly desirable that Morocco and Africa are joined to Europe by a fixed link," he told me.
"It would ease communications between the two, and allow passengers and goods to move easily between the two continents. It's an historic project which the world needs today and it will go ahead," he said.
Bankruptcy fears
That is the official line, but ordinary Moroccans remain sceptical.
The fortunes of the Channel Tunnel were followed closely here, and people have read the bad press about massive cost overruns, and desperate attempts by immigrants to cross into the UK from France.
An exploratory tunnel under the Mediterranean
The tunnel would run deep beneath the Mediterranean
A group of students pointed out some of the downsides of a tunnel.
"I wonder if the problem of illegal immigration will be solved or not. By the time the tunnel is built young people will see the tunnel as a chance to run away," one said.
"It will take a lot of money away from Morocco where we have so many problems - like poverty and unemployment," said another.
"You can see what happened to the tunnel between England and France and the company almost went bankrupt so you can imagine what would happen to Moroccan companies if they participated in such a project".
But scientists and politicians on both sides of the Mediterranean now seem convinced that the design will become a reality.
The big question is where the money will come from. Estimates of cost vary between $8bn and $13bn (£4.1bn - $£6.7bn).
It is hoped that funding can be raised via two publicly owned companies in Spain and Morocco, as well as financial support from the European Union.
If the money is forthcoming, the very first fixed link between Europe and Africa could become one of the modern wonders of the world.
BBC graphic showing proposed route of Spain-Morocco tunnel
Subject: I CAN SEE CHAOS COMING TO HAUNT US AGAIN
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 15:31:56 03/12/07 ()
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Come August 2007, chaos will revisit our nation again as the powers that be are bent on imposing a regime that is not the will of the people. This premonition will come to pass if we do not start talking to our diasporan parliamentarians and senators our concerns. the west want a government that they know and can work with. To them PMDC is not a party to work with as they do not believe starting the reconstruction process all over again. What are we going to do in such a quagmire? Sierra Leoneans in the diaspora please with your local MP or senators are explain to them this premonition. We do not want to see another chaos!!!
Subject: Re: I CAN SEE CHAOS COMING TO HAUNT US AGAIN
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 01:13:30 03/13/07 ()
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"the west want a government that they know and can work with. To them PMDC is not a party to work with as they do not believe starting the reconstruction process all over again."
Mr. "Truth"
Show me the EVIDENCE? Where is the CHAOS coming from?
By the way, is it the West that decides or the ordinary Sierra Leonean?
We can either play constructive or destructive politics. Which ever we should will have consequences. I CHOOSE CONSTRUCTIVE POLITICS. And you my friend? If the same, please refrain from such generalized and sweeping unsubstantiated statements.
Subject: Re: I CAN SEE CHAOS COMING TO HAUNT US AGAIN
From: ok dok
To: All
Date Posted: 09:58:45 03/13/07 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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Albert those guys are more smart than you all condeming them.Its too bad in third world countries to start with any new political party.Good reason is that we the third world never start where the old one left but try to change even the small good done.APC made sure to crumble all the good SLPP did and also did there best through the war to distroy everything so that any Govt. comming to power will never do anything better.If you are honest check yourself.{APC is right doing this as campaign}
Subject: Re: I CAN SEE CHAOS COMING TO HAUNT US AGAIN
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 02:57:12 03/13/07 ()
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"the west want a government that they know and can work with. To them PMDC is not a party to work with as they do not believe starting the reconstruction process all over again."
Mr. "Truth"
Show me the EVIDENCE? Where is the CHAOS coming from?
By the way, is it the West that decides or the ordinary Sierra Leonean?
We can either play constructive or destructive politics. Which ever we should will have consequences. I CHOOSE CONSTRUCTIVE POLITICS. And you my friend? If the same, please refrain from such generalized and sweeping unsubstantiated statements.
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Mr. Moinina, it is a premomition - a presentiment about what will come if we do not do something by way of engaging the people of Sierra Leone to lobby western powers not to meddle in our affairs solely for their grand designs. Mr. Moinina, I am not entitled to think and voice out my gut feelings. i am afraid of what will come. I remember, in 1981, when i saw what was going on and I said that chaos was been constructed and that one day the people will rise up to challenge the few that subjects them to such states. I left with no money or passport in 1987, after trying relentlessly to convince the few who governed that troubles will be visiting them. The last person I spoke to about my premonition then was Abdul Karim, one time Head of civil Service and Secretary to president Stevens. He did not heed my cries. I was watching a video of the formidable mansion he built in his home town during this period. It is now a rubble!! Where is he today? His children? I was in Asaba, Libya when I started hearing trouble was looming. I left Asaba for Gibraltar, only to hear that the troubles had escalated. No prayers were able to prevent the troubles that ensued as was evident. Such troubles were as a result of the chaos the few constructed on the whole. Mr. Moinina, we have to speak like this to forewarn the few that the whole are not lame ducks. Be fair in your thoughts and ways for the benefit of the whole. My statement is a premonition.
Subject: A MAJOR BLOW TO SLPP AND APC
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 15:18:37 03/12/07 ()
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It has been comfirmed that margai's running mate will be the erudite, unblemished, tactician Dr.Sokoh Kabia. I see a whole new direction in the campaign for the highest office in the country. Sokoh is going to chaange things as he cuts across the mende and temne lines.
This choice of margai has nade me have a rethink of an enlightenment coming to us. I know the likes of Sokoh. They are diligent in their ways and thinking. As a born and bred SLPP, I have to admit that we are in for a real battle.
Subject: Re: A MAJOR BLOW TO SLPP AND APC
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 00:01:47 03/13/07 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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How influencial is this DR./i have never heard about him during the struggling days.
Subject: Re: A MAJOR BLOW TO SLPP AND APC
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 02:29:22 03/13/07 ()
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His worked most of his life outside Sierra Leone. He is a Nephrologist and currently practices in the US. You may not have heard about him as he was part of the SLPP.
Subject: Re: A MAJOR BLOW TO SLPP AND APC
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 10:04:15 03/13/07 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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True SLPP bo lef me do.Why not stay in the party and correct the mistake?We have a lot of true party members who will never live since they are not looking for power .All living are just trying to lead eventhough they cant do what the present members are doing.
Subject: Re: A MAJOR BLOW TO SLPP AND APC
From: kroobaymom
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Date Posted: 07:18:38 03/13/07 ()
Email Address: kroobaymom@yahoo.com
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Unknown!!!!
Subject: Re: A MAJOR BLOW TO SLPP AND APC
From: Chief Bomborlai
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Date Posted: 13:13:16 03/13/07 ()
Email Address: Chiefbomborlai@yahoo.com
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Dr Soko Kabia is a son of PCs Bai Koblo and Late Ella Koblo- Gulama.
Subject: Re: A MAJOR BLOW TO SLPP AND APC
From: kroobay
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Date Posted: 14:10:43 03/13/07 ()
Email Address: kroobaymom@yahoo.com
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Margai (son of late Prime minister); Kabia (son of late Paramount Chief). This time, surnames alone are not enough.
Give us some more information on how they have championed the cause of their people back home, in the various fields of human development.
Subject: CONFRONTING THE ALCOHOL CONTROVERSY.
From: Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS
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Date Posted: 13:15:07 03/12/07 ()
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Alcohol is the most frequently abused drug in the world. It is a substance that has been discussed frequently in scientific literature and has been the focus of a large amount of research. Many of those who read media reports regarding the effects of alcohol are confused. Is this a dangerous drug, or is it a miracle potion that reduces the rates of heart attack, a frequent cause of disability and death throughout much of the world? What are the issues surrounding the ALCOHOL CONTROVERSY? How can you make an intelligent decision regarding your future use of alcoholic beverages?
Citizens of France,like Americans, like their alcohol. Actually, the French consume much more alcohol per capita than Americans. What is interesting about the French is that they eat diets that are higher in fats when compared to Americans, yet they suffer less atherosclerosis(narrowing of the arteries of the heart, which leads to "heart attacks") than in the U.S. In fact, the French have the second lowest rate of heart disease in the industrial world, second only to the Japanese. So, I can hear you say, how could that be? We are constantly reminded to eat low-fat diets in order to prevent this form of heart disease. Yet the French seem to get away with high-fat diets. This high level of fat intake with low risk for atherosclerosis is termed "THE FRENCH PARADOX".
Researchers have studied this situation, attempting to learn why. It appears, from volums of excellent research, that the VERY MODERATE COMSUMPTION of alcohol is associated with an increase in a person's high-density lipoprotein (HDL, the so-called "good cholesterol"). We all want to have have lots of HDL. When we do, we tend to have less arterial disease. What tends to happen is that the alcohol somehow increases our HDL, which then removes cholesterol from the blood, which is then removed from the body by the liver. SOUNDS PRETTY NEAT, DOESN'T IT? In fact, some researchers suggest that we can decrease our risk of having a heart attack by 40% if we just USE ALCOHOL IN MODERATION.
Please note that I am not advocating the use of alcohol, but rather giving SCIENTIFIC suggestion on what can assist one in reducing heart attack against the back drop of a high cholesterol level. SO REMEMBER, A GLASS OF WINE A DAY CAN KEEP THE EMERGENCY ROOM AWAY, JUST LIKE AN APPLE A DAY CAN ALSO KEEP THE DOCTOR AWAY.
Subject: COMING EVENTS HAS CASTED ITS SHADOWS ON BEREWA'S PRESIDENCY
From: Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS
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Date Posted: 12:36:11 03/12/07 ()
Email Address: rnmdtwo@yahoo.com
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Role of the Attorney General and the Minister of Justice
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295. The Commission finds that the erstwhile Attorney General and Minister of Justice, Solomon Berewa, played a particularly conspicuous role in the conduct of both the civilian and military trials of 1998. As Attorney General, Mr. Berewa exercised his discretionary power of prosecution in an arbitrary fashion. Furthermore, Mr. Berewa sat on the Mercy Committee whose role it was to advise the President on the issuance of pardons for the 34 condemned soldiers. The Commission finds that Mr. Berewa held an inappropriate amount of power in deciding the fate of the persons he had himself selected for trial
288. The then Attorney General and Minister of Justice, Solomon Berewa, set out the policy of the Government towards collaborators in a letter entitled “Present Position relating to the Collaborators of the AFRC Junta” on 13 March 1998. The use of languagein this letter was dangerously ambiguous. It was open to wide interpretation and consequently led to abuses and violations on the ground. Mr. Berewa criminalised acts of“collaboration” with the AFRC and sought to have all persons falling into the category of “collaborators” detained in the custody of the state. This new category was not codified in law but it led to the detention of thousands of Sierra Leoneans.
289. The Commission finds that the arrests,detentions, prosecutions and trials that followed the establishment of this Government policy were politically motivated and culminated in numerous human rights violations and abuses. The Commission finds that the departure from recognised legal and constitutional standards was the result of deliberate planning and authorisation by theGovernment of Sierra Leone. While the Government’s objective – to reassert its political ascendancy and send out a strong message that coup plotters would not be tolerated – was just, the means used were not. The Commission finds that the means employed were unconstitutional and resulted in human rights violations and abuses.
290. A pattern of summary executions, torture,floggings, beatings and arbitrary detentions was recorded by the Commission in the period after the restoration of the SLPP Government. This pattern encompasses acts that were carried out by both private actors and agents of the state.
IS "PRESIDENT" SOLOMON BEREWA CURED OF THIS DICTATORIAL TENDENCY?
Subject: Re: COMING EVENTS HAS CASTED ITS SHADOWS ON BEREWA'S PRESIDENCY
From: No, just give elect him and see a potential dictator
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Date Posted: 03:40:46 03/13/07 ()
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These are sensitive political issues that should direct the votes of any levelheaded democratic and peace loving Sierra Leonean. The people of Sierra Leone are tired of this unpatriotic, selfish, tribal and blind loyalty. This was what led to a 10 year barbaric war that we still cannot justify. The aforementioned acts are chargeable offenses/crimes against humanity, its time we sober up and free our nation of tyranny.
Subject: Re: COMING EVENTS HAS CASTED ITS SHADOWS ON BEREWA'S PRESIDENCY
From: Amara
To: All
Date Posted: 15:46:35 03/12/07 ()
Email Address: lawlawde80@yahoo.com
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Dr Curtis i always thought you could be clean of sychophantic comments until i saw this one from you. Guess it is really hard to trust what people write on this highly politisized forum of cocorioko. so you are trying to be the mouth piece now for the self styled politically mismanaged and disgruntled collaborators called pmdc?? what was the basis for the piece you just published about Berewa? why is it that you are only making this known to us now? same old dirty, baseless and irate partisan politics. please stay in your lane Doc and let us help protect the image of our medical profession.
Subject: Re: COMING EVENTS HAS CASTED ITS SHADOWS ON BEREWA'S PRESIDENCY
From: cunny rabbit
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Date Posted: 08:47:51 03/13/07 ()
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It may help you to know that the doc was not giving his opinions. He was merely reproducing sections of a report of one of the commissions without any alterations and asking one basic question.
Subject: Re: COMING EVENTS HAS CASTED ITS SHADOWS ON BEREWA'S PRESIDENCY
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 16:13:32 03/12/07 ()
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Your selfishness blinds you from the reality that affects all. You only care for yourself and forget that the marginalisation of the many would construct chaos and would in turn drive you and your family from your lovely homes. be wise and learn objectivity. partisanism destroys the headcornerstone of civility.
Subject: Re: COMING EVENTS HAS CASTED ITS SHADOWS ON BEREWA'S PRESIDENCY
From: Wonderful
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Date Posted: 12:52:59 03/12/07 ()
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Dr. Curtis, this is wonderful evidence. Why are our newspapers and PMDC not using this to let the people of Sierra Leone know that voting for Berewa will be equivalent to bringing another dictator to power ? Why ? Why ? Why ? This information you have provided is very important. I will not vote for Berewa again.
Subject: Re: COMING EVENTS HAS CASTED ITS SHADOWS ON BEREWA'S PRESIDENCY
From: CADMUS
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Date Posted: 06:57:37 03/13/07 ()
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BECAUSE, the good Doctor raised these very same points before and I provided him with adequately acceptable answers...that is why.
Subject: KOMBA MONDEH SHOULD BE SENT BACK TO SL
From: BORBOR BELLEH
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Date Posted: 11:08:41 03/12/07 ()
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If the US government is serious about cracking down on corruption in Africa, a man like Komba Mondeh should be deported back to Sierra Leone or forced to return the Sierra Leonean people coppor he stole during NPRC. He cannot say anything to defend that act. It is a criminal act no matter how you think of it. If Kombo hated the NPRC and believed they were corrupt, he should have returned the money back to the SLPP government which is democratically and legally elected by the people. Go home Komba or return the money back to the Sierra Leonean people.
Subject: Re: KOMBA MONDEH SHOULD BE SENT BACK TO SL
From: Mondeh
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Date Posted: 12:53:08 03/12/07 ()
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Komba Mondeh is still in salone. He is the head of the southern battalion of the RSLAF.
Subject: Re: KOMBA MONDEH SHOULD BE SENT BACK TO SL
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 15:07:15 03/12/07 ()
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Message:
So happy that you are privileged to inform our dear sister/brother. They speak what they know not.
Subject: Re: KOMBA MONDEH SHOULD BE SENT BACK TO SL
From: BORBOR BELLEH
To: All
Date Posted: 23:20:40 03/12/07 ()
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I was so sorry that I misunderstand the name Komba Kambo to Komba Mondeh. It is easy to mix up synonymes. I mean Kombo Kambo who is seating down in Texas. So Mondeh for using your name. It is your brother Kono man I was trying about.
Subject: Re: KOMBA MONDEH SHOULD BE SENT BACK TO SL
From: IDIOT
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Date Posted: 23:26:17 03/12/07 ()
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Who the hell is Kombo Kamba? Are you an idiot?
Subject: Re: KOMBA MONDEH SHOULD BE SENT BACK TO SL
From: kroobaymom
To: All
Date Posted: 11:24:28 03/12/07 ()
Email Address: kroobaymom@yahoo.com
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Message:
They may both be from the East(KONO) but Komba Mondeh is not Komba Kambo.So you may be confusing issues here.
But honestly Komba Mondeh for president will be a diaster for mama salone. Another Strasser or SAJ is the last thing we want.
Subject: WHAT THE FU......! ALL OF YOU ARE AGAINST KOMBA MONDEH
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 01:45:26 03/13/07 ()
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Leave Komba Mondeh alone. He is in Sierra Leone.
Why are they against him.
Is it because he is the only NPRC member that was blessed?
BO WOONAH LEF AM YAY?
Let us talk about the issues that are now at hand.
OK?
Subject: SAME OLD STORIES AND HATRED THINKING
From: BORBOR BELLEH
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Date Posted: 10:52:39 03/12/07 ()
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Factually speaking, it is reminisence of the same old stories we hear today and many years back about the so called Heros. For some of those who suffered directly the wrath of the Kamajors, it is no laughing matter. In reality, those guys came in for a revenge. A revenge that would have ignited a tribal or sectional war. Thank God, it never happened. After the AFRC were driven from Freetown, there were clearly targetted killings by those thugs. I was traveling from Freetown to Kenema on one Monday. What I saw with my eyes was unfortunate for anyone to go through. Almost all the check-points manned by the kamajors were committing summarily killings of innocent people. When a car or lorry came to the check point, some filthy non crio speaking kamajors will come to the car and ordered all passengers to come down, then they will separate Mendes from non Mendes and start looking IDs to confirm a passenger's origin. All non Mendes will be stopped and allowed Mendes or those who claim to be Mende and speak the language to continue their journey. God knew what would happened to those non Mendes passengers. Some of them would never been seen again. I was told first by a friend then later I saw it with my eyes. The International community is not stupid to arrest Hinga Norman for helping the government push the rebels out of town. They arrested him based on what he was ordering his men to do in the process.Yes, one may argue that collateral damage occurs during wars. That's differnt from intentional killings. You cannot separate one person from another and kill one while allow the other to go free based on a tribe, then turn around and called it collateral damage. You cannot intentionally set fires on a whole town and burned it down, then call it collateral. After all those horrible scenes I sawm I went to the Gambia thinking that I was running away from a war of hatred. To my surprise, when I heard the then Sierra Leonean embassador (Morikeh Forfanah) now I think interior minister talking about wiping out the Temne Limba government (AFRC)I knew those scenes I saw in Sierra Leone was actully ordered by our highest officials. He was indicating that they (SLPP) will target those tribes they consider adversaries. Well, my dad is from the south, but my mom is from the North and as a small boy then whose parent like many other Mendes families always tell their children that the temnes or the Northerners hate us or are our enemies is clearly a deliberate incitement to continue drawing a wedge between our brothers temnes or Northerners. I am sorry for the death of Uncle Sam Hinga Norman but what the Kamajors did needed scruitiny and the only people capable of doing it was the special court. It is time to start telling our premitive parents both Temnes and Mendes that there generation of hatred and in-fighting were long gone. Our Generation should start putting nationalism above tribalism. Until we start doing that our country is still in danger of exploding into tribal war one day. Something that no one should be praying for at this time.
Subject: Re: SAME OLD STORIES AND HATRED THINKING
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 04:33:37 03/13/07 ()
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I cannot deny your statement. What I experienced and saw with my own eyes was that strangers entering villages and towns were scrutinized. To say that people were been allowed just because they speak mende is hard to believe. In my village, descendants of the village were interrogated when they came back after a long absence.
THIS WAR WAS NEVER BASED ON TRIBAL BASIS. PEOPLE TRIED ALL SORTS OF WAYS TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE ONE. THEY NEVER SUCCEEDED. I DON'T THINK ANYONE CAN SUCCEED NOW. I WANT TO BELIEVE THERE WERE INSTANCES OF TRIBAL ISSUES, BUT THESE WERE ISOLATED.
Subject: Sierra Leone: Dr. Kadi Sesay's Win Annoys APC
From: KROOBAYDOG
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Date Posted: 10:14:36 03/12/07 ()
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Sierra Leone: Dr. Kadi Sesay's Win Annoys APC
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Concord Times (Freetown)
March 12, 2007
Posted to the web March 12, 2007
By Bhoyy Jalloh
Freetown
Trade and Industry Minister, Dr. Kadi Seasy's recent rally organized in Freetown under the auspices of Women In the Nation (WIN) for the Sierra Leone People's Party (SLPP) torchbearer, Solomon Berewa, has attracted scathing remarks from the opposition All Peoples Congress (APC).
"Dr. Kadi Sesay is a Mende-Temne woman who grew up in Moyamba she is a pseudo-intellectual who has fallen from grace to grass," a local newspaper Wednesday attributed to APC.
Thousands of SLPP women supporters, in green T-shirts and caps, recently converged on Miatta Conference Center, Brookfields to register their unflinching support for the Vice President who bids for the Presidency ahead of the July 28 general elections.
Dr. Sesay describes as unfortunate and baseless those claims made by APC in an attempt to create the impression that the Western Area was no longer a SLPP zone. According to her, the turn-out of tens of thousands of women in support of the party and its leader has cleared doubts that the SLPP is still the party to beat in the Western Area.
Dr. Sesay first demonstrated last November that she is capable of galvanizing the north for the SLPP when she assembled a similar mammoth crowd of women in Makeni as a united constituency for the party and its leader.
Subject: FATHER OF THE NEW NATION
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 07:02:18 03/12/07 ()
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SAMUEL HINGA NORMA ¡V FATHER OF THE NATION.
It is so hard to write this farewell to Chief without being overwhelmed with emotions. This is so true for someone like you who sacrificed so much and yet was treated like a criminal. Someone who without his efforts and sacrifice, the situation once termed as ¡§Operation No Living Thing¡¨ by the enemies of Sierra Leone would probably have had an outcome worse than any of its kind in the history of mankind.
Chief, by the grace of God, you saved Sierra Leone from annihilation. I am sad that you die a prisoner. It really pains me to know of the conditions and circumstances under which you departed from this world. History will remember you as someone who was wrongly imprisoned, tried and died ¡¥in the process¡¦ because you fought to save this nation. I will always remember and cherish your sacrifices for the people of Sierra Leone and the country you loved so much. The fight against the enemies of our people was not just a fight to restore the political government you once belonged, but a fight to save both Sierra Leone and its people. Your contribution is immense and immeasurable. It will be cherished by me for the rest of my life which I will pass on to my children and their children¡¦s children.
I was in Sierra Leone in December 1994 for Christmas vacation (one that I will never forget) when the enemies systematically torched almost the entire Southern region of the country and parts of the North. It was at the end of 1994 and beginning of 1995 when places like Bumpe, Kambia, Lunsar, Rutile, Tinkoko, Bo (along the main road), Sumbuya, Kenema, and countless other places were attacked. Within six weeks of my vacation, the enemies¡¦ destructions were wide spread and evident in almost the entire nation. Something that was previously confined to the far south and southwest regions. As a result of the determination of the enemies to cause untold havoc on the populace, ordinary civilians decided to protect their communities by the formation of vigilante groups from which the CDF was eventually formed - THE ONE AND ONLY PURPOSE WAS TO PROTECT THEIR FAMILIES. A noble purpose that should be commended, rewarded, encouraged and emulated. Instead the agreement reached by our government with the international community stated that our heroes and heroines are no different from our enemies¡¦ leaders¡¦ and should be equally prosecuted.
I will never accept and refuse to understand any legal jargon either in Latin, Hebrew or Greek, why someone with such a noble undertaking should be tried by any court of law and held until his death. Is this not a betrayal of African family values?
Chief, there can be no denial that you went the extra miles in the execution of your job. You achieved the objective of your mission to ensure a safe and secure Sierra Leone. In the process the CDF you were appointed to coordinate may have done some mistakes, which is human in any event. In addition, there may have been some bad elements within the rank and file who may have committed crimes and possibly atrocities against oridinary civilians. It pains me so badly that you were not only held responsible ALONE for these alleged crimes and atrocities by the Special Court, but incarcerated and tried until your death. You never walked a free man, but were carried a honorable hero of the people anyway.
Chief, please allow my mind to wander around for a while and ask few individuals some few simple questions:
1. WAS CHIEF RUNNING AN INDEPENDENT MILITIA UNKNOWN TO THE GOVERNMENT OF THE DAY?
2. IF NO TO THE ABOVE, WHY WAS CHIEF SINGLED OUT TO ACCOUNT FOR THE CDF?
3. WHY DID HIS FORMER BOSSES FAIL TO COME TO HIS AIDE WHEN HE DELIGENTLY EXECUTED THEIR ORDERS?
4. WHY ARE THEY NOW TELLING US THAT HE WAS A FRIEND AND AN INNOCENT MAN, BUT THEY FOUGHT TOOTH AND NAIL NOT TO COME TO HIS DEFENCE OR APPEAR IN COURT TO GIVE ACCOUNT OF THEIR STEWARDSHIP IN THIS PARTICULAR REGARD? WHAT ARE FRIENDS FOR? HAVE YOU HEARD THE SAYING THAT A FRIEND IN NEED IS A FRIEND INDEED? OR IS IT THAT A FRIEND IN NEED IS A FRIEND TO TURN YOUR BACK ON?
Chief, I believe you had people in the hierarchy you obtained instructions from and were gave account of your stewardship. You may know the answers to the above, but since you are peacefully resting I won¡¦t bother you with these questions. Some day, hopefully, we the people will bother someone to answer some very simple questions on these issues. If we are not fortunate to pose those questions to whosoever it may be, I believe their consciences (if any) and the Almighty God (definitely) will judge them.
I have been mourning your untimely death, thinking about your sacrifices and the ungrateful reward you received from ¡§us¡¨. I asked myself so many a times whether we are an ungrateful and cursed nation to have turned our backs on you. I have realized that I was wrong in my thinking at least for the majority of Sierra Leoneans. You would be pleased to know that the turnout of Sierra Leoneans of all tribes, religions, sexes, ages, political beliefs and works of life came to say farewell to you. IT DIDN¡¦T MATTER WHAT POLITICAL BELIEFS YOU HELD BEFORE AND WHATEVER THEY WERE JUST BEFORE YOUR DEATH. This is my only consolation in your death that in deed not just I, but thousands and possibly millions see you as a HERO who by the grace and wisdom of God saved Sierra Leone and its people. I am delighted but not surprised of the various stories I have heard and read about how your noble actions saved and touched the lives of many Sierra Leoneans. I believe your reward is in Heaven, for we cannot repay you back.
In recognition of your sacrifice for our people and the nation, please allow me to always refer to you as the FATHER OF THE NATION of recent times. Sierra Leone became a new nation after the war. Things were never the same again and will never be especially with your departure. It was like we started all over again. Besides, the democracy we enjoy today was partly because of your sacrifice. You deserve to be the FATHER OF THE NEW NATION ¡V SIERRA LEONE.
Although you have been taken away from us until judgment day, you will never be taken away from our hearts. Until we meet again.
Mahin Ketamia, yee pann dah (Goodbye Chief , sleep well).
Subject: Re: NEW FATHER OF THE NATION
From: Righteous
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Date Posted: 09:37:53 03/13/07 ()
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Subject: Re: FATHER OF THE NEW NATION
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 11:34:15 03/12/07 ()
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Albert,
You were there and you felt what the people felt. Only one man had the guts to save our people and the name is Chief Hingha Norman.
I think what the enemies of our Hero must do now is to find out the names of the individuals who prevented the CDF from organizing and operating in the rest of Sierra Leone Freetown. Let them forget for now the alleged atrocities of the Kamajors. Just for a minute. Let them find out the names of those who oppose the CDF.
Yaya Fanusie-member of SLAM
Subject: Re: FATHER OF THE NEW NATION
From: Ishmael Yillah
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Date Posted: 23:07:09 03/12/07 ()
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Yayah Fanusie, the kamajors did not save Sierra Leone and they never succeeded in repeling any rebel attack. The kamajors were tribal rebels who were created to kill non-mendes. Please check your facts beofre you post info. on this forum.
ishmael
Subject: Re: FATHER OF THE NEW NATION
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 00:52:55 03/13/07 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
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Mr. Yillah:
I guess it is trash like you who make me feel comfortable
that I do not have much in common with many Sierra Leoneans.
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: FATHER OF THE NEW NATION
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 07:17:24 03/12/07 ()
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That is the real game of this wounded world we live in. It is a lesson for so many of us who become political stooges for the seasoned and crafty megalomaniac quasi politicians we have among us. (Chief)Norman was a pawn left to hang dry. His miscalculations and covert ambition to punish others brought him this end. Let God be his judge and let this be a lesson to all who roam around with idiotic false saviours of the nation only to gain power and kill that which was so stupid in putting their intersts first other than that of the nation and it poor. I feel the loss of a human, misguided by years of earthly sufferings and believing that he will make money at the expense of the poor masses. His death is a light onto the paths of so many of us - we have to learn to put the nation's interests first otherwise we are doomed. You cannot make the whole suffer and expect not to be troubled by it.
Subject: Re: FATHER OF THE NEW NATION
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 08:57:12 03/12/07 ()
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Chieh Norman's ingnominious end is a pointer to Tejan Kabbah's politics of deciet. After Norman's death, Kabbah responded with a sly, yet unconvincing, PR exercise. The conniving skunk is telling Sierra Leoneans that Chief Norman should not be seen as a war criminal. Well, legally speaking, he was not a war criminal. Even the most elementary aspect of law allows every man to enjoy the presumption of innocence until pronounced guilty by a court of law. In that regard, Norman only escaped being a war criminal by the thinnest margin the law allows.
However, away from legalistic nuances, public opinion will view Norman as a war criminal. Kabbah is a political scum, and he is scummier than anything I know, save Siaka Stevens top-of-the line style of dishonesty.
If Norman can be "purged" this way, who knows what else Kabbah has been deceptively doing behind the scenes to cheat and rob the people of Sierra Leone? Poor Sierra Leone indeed!
Subject: Re: FATHER OF THE NEW NATION
From: kroobaymom
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Date Posted: 08:30:10 03/12/07 ()
Email Address: kroobaymom@yahoo.com
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In death Hinga Norman will face judgment for his crimes. We still mourn the loss of our loved ones in Freetwon and other parts of the country, including Sakomah, Musa kabia nd Sheikh Mostabha who were brutally murdered by his group of kamajors.
The evil men do is compounded by the lack of action of others. The supreme god we all serve is just and has taken action in the face of inaction on the part of the government and the special court. He is now with his maker and will give account of his stewardship.
Subject: Re: FATHER OF THE NEW NATION
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 11:42:40 03/12/07 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
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Kroobaymom,
I find it odd that you and Alieu focus on the few alleged attrocities of the Kamajors but you two do not condemn or spend more time and your resources on RUF attrocities.
You all are making it look like the Kamajors are the mass murderers when dthe mass murderers are the RUF which by your antics on this forum is a latent support for the RUF.
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: FATHER OF THE NEW NATION
From: kroobaymom
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Date Posted: 12:17:33 03/12/07 ()
Email Address: kroobaymom@hayoo.com
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I detest the RUF and all other parties that harmed our peoples. The kamajors were only accountable for 6% of the total number of atrocities committed, but that is a lot of killings . The end does not justify the means in all cases be it RUF, AFRC, Sobel or Kamajor.
Subject: Re: FATHER OF THE NEW NATION
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 21:48:53 03/12/07 ()
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Kroobaymom,
Where did you get this 6% from? Quite an interesting statistics. Just curious.
Subject: Re: FATHER OF THE NEW NATION
From: kroobaymom
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Date Posted: 08:18:27 03/13/07 ()
Email Address: Kroobaymom@yahoo.com
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This statistics is culled from the report of the TRC Commission. Read:
PERPETRATOR RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE VIOLATIONS
330. In the statements received by the Commission, the AFRC is responsible for
14,646 or 36.4% of the total of 40,242 violations. These violations were
committed primarily in the third phase of the conflict, with the greatest number
occurring in early 1999. The second highest number of documented violations,
13,657 or 33.9% were attributed to the RUF/SL. These violations were carried
out prior to the RUF alliance with the AFRC junta regime and include abuses by
the NPFL. Smaller numbers of violations are attributed to the SLA (6.0%) and
the CDF (6.0%) and other forces (1.5%).187."
Subject: Re: FATHER OF THE NEW NATION
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 08:51:41 03/12/07 ()
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I sympathize with the loss of your loved ones. The kamajors, as I said in my posting, may have had criminal elements amongst them but in a whole they played a very crucial role to bring the war to an end. Therefore, I say thank you to them and especially to their leader Chief.
Subject: Re: FATHER OF THE NEW NATION
From: kroobaymom
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Date Posted: 09:21:34 03/12/07 ()
Email Address: kroobaymom@yahoo.com
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Chief Norman’s death pierces the heart of many, especially for being betrayed by those that directed all that he did. In times of grief we all find solace and continue to find common ground. Let us pledge to renew our resolve to work together and bring the common enemy to justice.
We forgive those who consider us their enemies. We hope that in loving, both friends and enemies can aid the majority of Sierra Leoneans who continue to live in abject poverty as a result of the greed of a few. Henceforth our prayer should be “With the waging of war, we will not comply. With the help of God’s grace, we will struggle for justice. With God’s abiding kindness, we will love even our enemies.”
Subject: those who kill the innocent will find no sanctuary in the US
From: No Haven
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Date Posted: 02:41:49 03/12/07 ()
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Thank you Uncle Sam for making it impossible for human rights violators basking in your comfort. The decision by the Homeland Security to prosecute those who have killed the weak and brutalised the old, including women is worthy.
Gone are the days, for crude military leaders, who think they will kill the ordinary and find a haven in the States.
For those who are rallying to free a Man who did not give his victims any chance to defend themselves, must be living in a dream world. Do you know how many houses were broken after the death of the men and women the NPRC killed cold blood.
Please, Uncle Sam prosecute anyone in your midst that have unjustly persecuted the weak.
There is no safe haven for human rights violators and killers in America.
Go tell it on the streets of Africa and beyond, that Uncle Sam will not leave no stone unturned to catch those who seek its place to rest.
Subject: Re: those who kill the innocent will find no sanctuary in th
From: news
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Date Posted: 03:06:00 03/12/07 ()
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I hope Uncle Sam too will be able to prosecute Tejan Kabbah/Berewa and some Nigerian Officers who killed twenty six military officers including a woman at a kangaroo court.
What is good for the goose is also good for the gander. Justice must be extended to all including those Sierra Leoneans, that burned innocent people on the streets of Freetown.Please, if anyone knows their name. it is now time to disclose it here.
The inhumane killing of Sakomah and others must be highlighted here.
Whilst Kabbah and co were able to prosecute all those they deem as collaborators, sadly, nobody has said anything about the innocent victims Kabbah/berewa and their SLPP punished.
Shout out Sierra Leoneans agianst injustice!!!
Subject: UNCLE SAM IS DOUBLE SIDED
From: JUSTICE
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Date Posted: 04:29:45 03/12/07 ()
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If NPRC is prosecuted, then the SLPP should also be prosecuted.
Why not.
NPRC had good guys who could not do much because of their ranks then.
Take for example Komba Mondeh.
If they prosecute NPRC, we are going to ask them to prosecute SLPP also. Just wait.
Subject: Re: UNCLE SAM IS DOUBLE SIDED
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 05:23:44 03/12/07 ()
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Komba Mondeh will also be prosecuted for crime commited by his NPRC. None of them are gulitless in the killing spree perpetuated by n SLPP outfit called NPRC.
Komba Mondeh is no saint. His hands are stained with blood.
Kombah Mondeh and co were part of the messy situation that brought untold hardship in the lifes of our people. Komba Mondeh, Charles Mbayo, Karefa Kargbo, Idriss Kamara , Kwagor Amara, Colonel Gbondo,Maada Bio, Strasser, Reginald Glover and others must be tormented till they face death.
The NPRC was no different from the SLPP supported RUF.
Subject: Re: UNCLE SAM IS DOUBLE SIDED
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 07:00:31 03/12/07 ()
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There must be among the many names you've submitted, parties who are guilty by association. Either they look and turn away or face annihilation. Which would you have chosen? I still believe there are some among the many who are clean.
Subject: WHO KILLED THE MOST? - (APC, NPRC, AFRC or SLPP)
From: JUSTICE
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Date Posted: 06:33:42 03/12/07 ()
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WHO KILLED THE MOST? - (APC, NPRC, AFRC, SLPP, RUF or KAMAJOR)
It means that Sierra Leone has a lot of people still to be prosecuted for crimes against humanity.
It is a very difficult question for me to answer.
Who should we now trust?
Is any body out there to help clarify things?
Subject: Re: UNCLE SAM IS DOUBLE SIDED
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 04:38:13 03/12/07 ()
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America is a two-faced lying hypocritical nation that backstabs anyone they are not in agreement with. Their word is GUNBOAT DIPLOMACY. you do not do what ni tell you, i willmake sure i undermine your policies to paved the way for a regime change.
Komba Mondeh is a cultured and refined character. He was well brought up and through tact he was able to withstand the storms of all the people he has served.
I have known him since secondary school at CKC bo and I will live to respect him for his die hardness and tact. May he live long to help the 'rennaissance' - a new begining that will start come 2012. Komba, please take control of the clandestine side with the girls - THEY ARE TROUBLE. They can either make or break you. that is your downside - if that is in control - you are a wonderful general. I salute you to the highest order.
Subject: Re: UNCLE SAM IS DOUBLE SIDED
From: Chief Bomborlai
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Date Posted: 12:30:19 03/12/07 ()
Email Address: Chiefbomborlai@yahoo.com
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Message:
Truth,
You are absolutely right. Mondeh is a fine soldier.
Subject: KOMBA MONDEH FOR PRESIDENCY - 2012?
From: JUSTICE
To: All
Date Posted: 04:46:32 03/12/07 ()
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You are right. Lets don't rush.
LEH WE DO AM KEH LEH KEH LEH.
It is a matter of must.
Lets wait and see what 2008 will bring.
If there is no answer, then we are going to put all the so called parties(APC, PMDC and SLPP) aside and bring a completely new generation.
PACK DEN ALL NAR CORNER.
The campaign is in the making.
Subject: Ras
From: Tafari
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Date Posted: 20:13:56 03/11/07 ()
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The Patriotic Vanguard, Sierra Leone News Portal|
Will the real William Wilberforce please stand up?
- Sunday 11 March 2007.
By Bro. K. Bangarah, Guest Writer.
On 25 March 1807 British imperialism claims to have abolished one of its own institutions. It was an institution that brought with it such a level of human misery that it amounted to an unremitting act of genocide against Afrikan people. The imperialists refer to that genocide as the ‘slave trade’. The first point this raises is evident: British imperialism is so obscenely and profoundly barbaric that it required an act of Parliament to get it to stop kidnapping Afrikan people, chaining and deporting us from our homeland in conditions worse than those suffered by cattle.
The British establishment have totally failed and continue to fail to acknowledge this and their other acts of genocide against Afrikan people as a crime against humanity. Their actions were and are completely and utterly wrong and morally indefensible. In their attempts to mislead Afrikan, British and other peoples of the world, they are trying to claim the credit for bringing this genocide to an end. The truth is that they did not stop kidnapping and deporting our people because they realised how evil and wrong their behaviour was. They did it because they were forced to; the unstoppable forces emanating from Afrikan people determined to liberate themselves from bondage, left them with no other choice.
World military, political and economic forces overwhelmed the institution of slavery
One of the most critical of these forces was the British working classes. They were involved in petitions against the kidnapping and deportation of Afrikan people because they were concerned about the mounting loss of British lives on the high seas and abroad. In order to kidnap and deport Afrikan people from their homes, it was necessary to have able kidnappers; British imperialists called them ‘sailors’. In addition to being evil, theirs was a dangerous occupation, because out of a total of 12,263 kidnappers, 2,643 perished as a direct result of their ‘work’. When the British public learned that almost a quarter of their kidnapper sons were killed or lost (Williams, 1944; Martin, 1999), they engaged in the mass petitioning of Parliament. It was through this process that abolitionists perfected the modern tactics of lobbying Parliament and pressuring MPs (Walwin, 1993).
A few very important forces came via the British enslavers themselves. The older British colonies already had large numbers of enslaved Afrikan people who substantially out-numbered their enslavers (Ferguson, 1998) (James, 1963). Their numbers were in fact the real basis of their enslavers’ prosperity. The existing large numbers was a double edged sword for their enslavers because it meant that it was too risky for them to import any more Afrikan people. The enslaver planters were living on a knife edge, in constant fear of the rebellions and raids mounted by enslaved and marooned Afrikan people. Rebellions whether successful or unsuccessful, could lead to their deaths, the loss of colonial lands and the loss of the stolen free labour of enslaved Afrikan people. Any further importation would simply reinforce the battalions of Afrikan maroon communities and rebel Afrikan people on the plantations. Therefore, if they could prevent further imports to the colonies this would be a good method of preserving their own lives whilst at the same time allowing them to keep control.
They also feared being undercut by competitors from the newer British colonies as well as from other imperialist colonies in the Caribbean. British and French imperialists were constantly warring with each other over Caribbean lands that they each had stolen from the indigenous American Indians (Greenwood, 1980, p. 10-15). In the course of the warring Britain managed to steal two additional Caribbean colonies, Guiana and Trinidad. Both were underdeveloped and desperately needed the labour of enslaved Afrikan people in order to prosper. However, the longer established British colonials recognised that the two new colonies with their virgin soils would offer them stiff competition and they were willing to try any measure that might stave off financial disaster. If they could prevent the new colonies from importing Afrikan people, their position would be protected.
Furthermore, 50 per cent of enslaved Afrikan people kidnapped and deported by Britain were sold to French enslavers and the French ran their sugar colonies more profitably than the British. The importation of more kidnapped Afrikan people meant that the French could undercut the British in the imperialist sugar markets (Ferguson, 1998). This scenario had the added irony that the British trafficking of Afrikan people was helping the French to out-perform them economically. If they could prevent the further importation of kidnapped Afrikan people, they could cut the supply of the much needed Afrikan labour to the French and gain the economic upper hand. In other words, the cutting of the supply of kidnapped Afrikan people would solve all of their major problems in one fell swoop. Therefore, in the spirit of self-preservation, the solution adopted by the older established British enslaver colonists was to join the growing demand to outlaw the process of kidnapping and deporting of Afrikan people to Caribbean colonies.
Another critical force came via the imperialists based in Britain. They were primarily concerned with immediate losses in their own profits and revenue that resulted from the uprisings of enslaved Afrikan people. Additionally that the process of rapid industrialisation, which they were undergoing, would give them a longer term competitive advantage over the other imperialist nations. They therefore had an eye on the potential super profits that could be made from the pending transition from an agricultural based economy relying on enslaved Afrikan people, to an industrial based economy which needed low paid workers. They came to the realisation that giving Afrikan people the illusion of freedom through the paying of wages would make them much richer in the long run. With these changes, even some of the imperialists began to worm to the idea of abolition.
All of the factors mentioned above were far more important contributors to the abolition of the so-called ‘slave trade’ than anything that Wilberforce ever did. They formed part of the range of forces that compelled the British government to change its approach to kidnapping and deporting Afrikan people from their homes. Wilberforce, who was unofficially appointed to his ‘abolitionist leadership’ role by the government, did little more than navigate his way through these forces: it is these forces that drove Wilberforce; not the other way round. Furthermore, an honest analysis reveals that the fundamental cause of all of these forces was the activity and resistance of the Afrikan people.
Afrikan people in Britain drove the diplomatic front for abolition
The first group of kidnapped Afrikan people forcibly deported to Britain, arrived in 1555 (Martin, 1999). By the last quarter of the 18th century, British imperialist kidnapping and compulsory deportation of Afrikan people resulted in 10,000 to 15,000 of London’s 80,000 population being Afrikan people (Martin, 1999). The total population of Afrikan people throughout the whole of Britain was estimated at 20,000 (Martin, 1999). The majority of the Afrikan people in Britain were held captive and enslaved by British citizens. However by employing a variety of ingenious strategies and methods, a small percentage of them managed to procure their personal ‘freedom’.
It is evident that of all of the groups of people in Britain, Afrikan people had the most to gain from the abolition of slavery and the so-called ‘slave trade’. For this reason it is likely that they had a tendency to be amongst the most sympathetic advocates of the anti-slavery cause as well as amongst the most active groups of people fighting for the abolition of slavery. The evidence of their involvement whether enslaved or ‘free’ is scant, but it is possible to trace some of the names of Afrikan people involved in the broad anti-slavery movement in Britain.
There is documented evidence of the involvement of Afrikan people such as Mary Prince, Olaudah Equiano, Ottobah Cuguano, Jonathan Strong, James Somerset, Joseph Knight, Ayuba Diallo, George Bridgewater, Ignatus Sancho, William Davison, Robert Wedderburn, Ukawsaw Gronniosaw, John Ystumllyn, William Cuffay and Julius Soubise. However, this list of names cannot do justice to either the volume or quality of activity that would have been forthcoming from the 20,000 strong Afrikan community based in Britain. It seems that their role has been played down by imperialist ‘historians’.
Some of the Afrikan people named here were involved in important anti-slavery court cases; others wrote and narrated their biographies telling of the brutality they suffered and experienced; others still wrote about the cruelty of slavery and others engaged in revolutionary political activity against the imperialist perpetrators of slavery. They tended to ally themselves with groups of British people who established organisations with a progressive attitude towards the abolition of slavery. Their stories were fed into the organised groupings of which they were part, and then cascaded to the British public at large.
Their stories had a massive impact on the British public, most of whom were ignorant about the evils and injustices of slavery. The evidence provided by Afrikan people in Britain was the crucial spark that ignited mass movements for justice among the working classes. The release of their information raised consciousness amongst the masses of Britons to a point where they began to seriously challenge the British establishment about both the plights of the working classes and the suffering of enslaved Afrikan people. It was therefore the political and diplomatic work of Afrikan people, working in an extremely hostile British environment, which led the national processes that brought about the abolition of slavery and the so called ‘slave trade’. It most certainly was not some character called Wilberforce as some portray.
One of the methods of lying used by imperialism to distort history is simply to omit or prevent the emergence of relevant facts in historical discourse: failing to tell the whole truth. In the case of Afrikan enslavement, an army of imperialist liars presented to us as ‘historians’ have insulted the memory of our Afrikan ancestors who fought for Afrikan liberation in Britain. They have done this by under-representing the contributions of Afrikan people, and by presenting William Wilberforce as some kind of leader in the Afrikan liberation process. Some of these ‘historians’ have taken the lies to even higher levels of distortion by attempting to present Wilberforce as the saviour of enslaved Afrikan people.
Wilberforce: a drug addict and latecomer to the abolition cause
Afrikan people resisted our enslavement from the very first day that European imperialism attempted to steal our people. However, it was not until 1776 that the world began to hear the first openly anti-slavery utterances from the British establishment. This happened when David Hartley condemned the ‘slave trade’ in the House of Commons (Hart, 2006, p. 1). It had taken British imperialism well over 200 years to begin to notice that there might be something wrong with kidnapping, deporting, holding in bondage, enslaving, murdering and otherwise abusing Afrikan people. Another initiative followed in 1783 when the Quakers petitioned parliament against human trafficking (Hart, 2006, p. 1). Wilberforce was not involved in any of these early anti-slavery initiatives.
On 22 May 1787 a group of British people gave themselves the official sounding title ‘The Abolition Society’ and declared their existence to the British establishment. The society gave the outward impression that it was against the enslavement of Afrikan people, although its activities often suggested otherwise. Interestingly imperialism’s ‘great saviour and hero’, Wilberforce was not amongst the original grouping (Hart, 2006, p. 1). Nor did he end up joining the society of his own volition or as a matter of conscience. Instead he was ‘recruited’ and sent into the abolition movement by the then Prime Minister William Pitt (Ferguson, 1998, p. 132; Williams, 1944, p. 123). The fake cover story about his moral and religious conviction compelling him to work for the abolition of slavery was made up later.
The process of recruiting Wilberforce was probably made easier by the fact that he had a related personal vested interest; his family were wool merchants. There is no doubt that he took his family interest seriously since he operated as the official Parliamentary spokesman for the wool industry (Williams, 1944, p. 160). It is likely that he would have perceived the cotton industry, with its abundance of unpaid labour stolen from enslaved Afrikan people, as a rival with a competitive advantage that was unfair even by primitive capitalist standards (Martin, 1999).
The choice of Wilberforce for the anti-slavery ‘moral crusade’ was an interesting one. Throughout his adult life, he is reported to have suffered significant health problems (Howarth, 1973). This is hardly surprising given the fact that he was a known drug addict. Apparently he was a junkie, unable to wean himself off his reliance on hard drugs. British historians inform us that: ’William Wilberforce ... took opium every day for 45 years’ (Howarth, 1973). This evidence reveals the fact that Wilberforce demonstrated a greater level of commitment to the consumption of hard drugs than he ever did to the abolition of slavery. Evidence concerning whether he took hard drugs more often than he prayed is inconclusive. As if that was not enough, he was also known to indulge in drinking and gambling (Howarth, 1973). The appointment of a known drug addict and apparent drunkard as the champion of the abolition movement suggests that the British establishment had no real intention of abolishing the kidnapping, deporting and enslavement of Afrikan people.
* Bro. K. Bangarah is a member of the Global Afrikan Congress, based in the UK.
Source: Pambazuka News.
Subject: Re: Ras
From: KLA
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Date Posted: 11:32:24 03/12/07 ()
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I do not know if anyone can receive BROWNIE POINTS for Blasting William Wilberforce as a "dope addict and
drunkard.
"The choice of Wilberforce for the anti-slavery ‘moral crusade’ was an interesting one. Throughout his adult life, he is reported to have suffered significant health problems (Howarth, 1973). This is hardly surprising given the fact that he was a known drug addict. Apparently he was a junkie, unable to wean himself off his reliance on hard drugs. British historians inform us that: ’William Wilberforce ... took opium every day for 45 years’ (Howarth, 1973). This evidence reveals the fact that Wilberforce demonstrated a greater level of commitment to the consumption of hard drugs than he ever did to the abolition of slavery. Evidence concerning whether he took hard drugs more often than he prayed is inconclusive. As if that was not enough, he was also known to indulge in drinking and gambling (Howarth, 1973). The appointment of a known drug addict and apparent drunkard as the champion of the abolition movement suggests that the British establishment had no real intention of abolishing the kidnapping, deporting and enslavement of Afrikan people."...PAMBAZUKA NEWS
Some of us are compelled to counter such Bashing with the historical facts as linked below.
The demonization of men like Wilberforce does no good to the legacy of Wilberforce, during this period of historical recognition of the players who contributed towards the Abolition of the trade in Afrikans.
Wonder what the world would look like without the efforts of the WIBERFORCES OF THE globe!!
TSTM
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Subject: Don Webb is dead ?
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Date Posted: 17:45:49 03/11/07 ()
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So I hear, but have not confirmed it. Anybody heard the same news?
Subject: FOR SAM FORAY
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Date Posted: 17:57:25 03/11/07 ()
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HOW MANY TOP KAMAJORS ATTENDED THE FUNERAL OF NORMAN?
Subject: Re: FOR SAM FORAY
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According to focus on africa, no top kamajpr commnder attended the funeral. Infact, there wre only a few ksmsjors, as majority decided to stay away since Foray has politicised the entire thing. Another shocker is that all the paramount chiefs from Bo did not attend the funeral. They complainec that they were left out of the funeral, and it became too political.
Subject: Re: FOR SAM FORAY
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Becos Hinga was a society man. You and your BBC don't know anything about african culture.Let me stop at that point.
Subject: Re: FOR SAM FORAY
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Becos Hinga was a society man. You and your BBC don't know anything about african culture.Let me at that point.
Subject: Re: FOR SAM FORAY
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Wow but God will pay Sam Foray and all those who are publishing the news in political way.
Subject: SIR ALBERT MARGAI: An Appreciation - Part 2
From: Knice
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An appreciation of Sir Albert by necessity must include some examination of his relationships with Dr. Siaka Stevens and Sir Milton Margai. A review of his pivotal achievements is also required to complete his portrait. Right away I can see formidable challenges. I for instance have no inside knowledge of Sir Albert’s relationships with either Dr. Stevens or Sir Milton. Furthermore I do not have ready access to documents pertaining to Sir Albert’s service and accomplishments. I must therefore rely for a good part on my own memory and latent interpretation of events. I am also fortunate to have put together a modest library on Sierra Lone as part of my effort to understand its disastrous transformation from the country I grew up in and loved, into one that I no longer understand or abide. I have consulted these volumes for facts and remembrances of especially insiders of the political movements of those early times.
One of these volumes is an obscure but remarkable little book, “In Sierra Leone”, by Michael Jackson, not the gloved-one, but a New Zealander Kiwi, who is professor of anthropology at the University of Copenhagen in Denmark. Jackson lived and did research in Sierra Leone for extended periods from 1969 through 1979. Much of his stay was in Kabala in the Koinadugu District, where he got to know the extended Marah family very well. He formed an especially close friendship with S.B. Marah and his immediate family. Jackson usually lodged with SB and his family on his visits to Freetown. This book therefore amounts to a memoir by S.B. Marah that is written by Michael Jackson. It is an important book because SB was one of the many bright young men who were active in Sierra Leonean politics from before independence and after. Their participation in the political process led to optimistic predictions of stability, prosperity and an altogether bright future for Sierra Leone by especially 1960 European and American pundits who specialized in African affairs. Because many other politically active insiders and eyewitness of that era have passed on and left no written memoirs, SB’s memoir in my opinion is destined to become a very important resource.
Other books that have been helpful are “Sierra Leone –Experiment in Democracy in an Africa Nation”, by Gershon Collier, who was Sierra Leone’s Ambassador to the United States and the United Nations during Sir Albert’s tenure as Prime Minister. Gershon Collier’s book collaborates much of what SB Marah remembers about for instance, the 1957, 1962, and the 1967 elections and their aftermaths. Another helpful book is “Political Change in a West African State – A Study of the Modernization Process in Sierra Leone”, by Martin Kilson. Kilson is an African-American scholar and formerly Professor of Political Science at Harvard University. He too spent extended periods during the 1960s on field work in Sierra Leone. His book clarifies ethnic, cultural, and class tensions, which because they have been so badly handled partly explain the chaos that befell Sierra Leone. I of course also believe the other side of the coin viewpoint that were these same tensions handled with skill and tact, Sierra in fact had the wherewithal to have matched into unimagined heights.
Sir Milton, Sir Albert, and Dr. Stevens:
So what did I find out about the relationships between Sir Albert and Dr. Stevens, and between Sir Albert and Sir Milton? For one thing, that Sir Albert and Dr. Stevens were close friends going back to the colonial era. The 1947 constitutional proposals were implemented in 1951 when Sir Milton became Premier, and appointed both Sir Albert and Dr. Stevens into the first all Sierra Leonean cabinet with responsibility for internal affairs. National security and foreign affairs remained a British responsibility. I see no need to cite the many instances that are revealing of these relationships because the aftermath of the 1957 elections provides such succinct summary. The 1957 elections were among other things intended to select a leader and a party that would lead Sierra Leone into constitutional talks with the purpose of granting independence to Sierra Leonean. The aftermath was contentious as Chiefs and traditionalists lined up with Sir Milton for the leadership; and the younger and the more educated gravitated to Sir Albert for leadership of the SLPP and therefore Prime Minister. Sir Albert won that contest by a single vote.
Sir Albert’s victory represented a low point in the spirits of SLPP faithful following on the heels of euphoria over their recent success in the elections. Some in the party leadership notably Dr. John Karefa-Smart, J.C.O. Crowther, and Kandeh Bureh, etc. appealed to Sir Albert to relent and allow Sir Milton to lead Sierra Leone to independence. On the other side important supporters of Sir Albert notably Dr. Siaka Stevens and Y.D. Sesay urged him to hold firm. Sir Albert was eventually persuaded to step down in favor of Sir Milton. Here is how SB Marah recalls the concession: “Albert knelt before him, and Sir Milton placed his hands on him, in the traditional way. Then Albert said that he accepted his brother’s ruling for another six months or three years. He shed tears but there was jubilation among everyone present”.
The peace however did not last. SB Marah continues: “When ministerial positions were being decided, Sir Milton appointed Albert Minister of Works, though he had been Minister of Internal Affairs until then (apparently Albert considered the shift a demotion). Siaka Stevens received no ministerial appointments” Albert soon left the SLPP (and with Dr. Stevens, Y.D. Sesay, and others) formed the PNP. There were of course policy differences between Sir Albert and his brother Sir Milton, as on for instance how aggressively to pursue independence. Sir Milton did not think Sierra Leone was ready, and in retrospect I for one agree with him. It is however clear that the last straw was denial of a ministerial appointment to Dr. Stevens. At this point Sir Albert even provided office facilities for Dr. Stevens at his law firm at 61 Westmoreland Street.
Sir Milton and Sir Albert were obviously brothers in a polygamous household. I have no inside knowledge of their personal relationship. But I have observed the whole range of feelings between siblings with a common father and different mothers. I have observed anywhere from loving and close relationships; to simple tolerance or indifference; to hostility and rivalry; to down right can’t stand each other. The very few times I witnessed them together, Sir Milton would jokingly refer to Sir Albert as a man in a hurry. I don’t think they were particularly close. Nor do I think that they hated each other. I think whatever rivalry existed between them was more of a clash of generational perspectives than downright hostility for one another. Sir Milton was much older than Sir Albert.
Pivotal Achievements:
Sir Albert Margai was Prime Minister of Sierra Leone from 1964, when he succeeded his brother, Sir Milton Margai, to 1967 when the SLPP he led lost general elections to Parliament to the opposition All Peoples Congress (APC) party. Sir Albert therefore was Prime Minister for at most three and a half years, by generous estimation. Prior to that, and going back into colonial times, he served as Minister of Education, Minister of Works, Minister of the Interior, and Minister of Finance. In between these public responsibilities he was one of the most successful lawyers in the country.
Most of his most important accomplishments were well before he became Prime Minister. What I find most remarkable about Sir Albert’s achievements is how revealing they are of the great strategic thinker that he was. One cannot review them without clearly realizing that to Sir Albert a project was simply not worth the effort and resources unless it had potential as a launching pad for a leap into greater and better things.
Education: Government schools at Magburaka and Kenema, etc. were called ‘central schools’ before Sir Albert became Minister of Education., They were in effect middle schools that prepared students for secondary schools like Bo School. These schools were elevated to full secondary schools once Sir Albert became Minister of Education. My speculation here is that I now see such move as the initial implementation of a vision of a network of at least one government secondary school in each district. Sir Albert also converted Njala College, hitherto a Teachers Training College into an agricultural university. It is no speculation on my part to condone the wisdom of such a university in a predominantly agrarian society.
Infrastructure: I remember when the entire ride from Freetown to my native Kailahun was all on dirt roads. In the rainy season it would sometimes take as much as thirty hours to drive from Freetown to Daru, only some 200 miles distance, assuming that rackety bridges along the way all held up. Paving of the road up to Mile 91 was therefore a monumental achievement by Sir Albert’s as Minister of Works. It was followed by construction of the Taima Bridge by Sierra Leonean civil engineer, Wadi Williams. Here again the visionary is evident in these road improvement projects. What I now see is that once the road to Mile 91 was done, we were being prepared for a cycle of rebuilding a crucial bridge, followed by resurfacing of roads up to that bridge.
Confirmation that Bumbuna had potential to generate serious hydropower goes way back into the very heart of colonial reign. But it took Sir Albert to resurrect it and bring it back to the fore, and ever since every president and junta with fading popularity has invoked Bumbuna to romance his way back into the hearts of the Sierra Leonean people. In fact my only visit ever to Bumbuna was as part of the press corps covering Sir Albert’s visit to the place. After form six, I went to work for Mr. Malvyn Johnson at the Ministry of Information. His older brother Lemuel had been my biology teacher and recommended me for the job. We reported for a government paper called “The Sierra Leonean” and I was assigned to work alongside Dwight Neal who was senior reporter. Suffice it to say that were Sir Albert reelected in 1967 Bumbuna today will be a fact rather than still a hope.
Finance: Nowhere did Sir Albert achieve more than in his role as Minister of Finance. He never failed to provide on time and credible budgets; there were effective plans and controls featuring Government Orders (GO), Purchase Orders (PO), and Financial Orders (FO), etc. that made it easy to track and account for spending by government agencies. There was segregation of duties too. No single officer could sign a GO, PO, and FO. They had to be signed by different officers who therefore served as checks and balances against one another. The Government of Sierra Leone never once missed salary payments or defaulted on any other financial obligations for that matter during Sir Albert’s tenure as Minister of Finance and as Prime Minister. In fact a Sierra Leone government purchase voucher was highly coveted by local merchants. Sir Albert’s greatest achievement in Finance however has to be his management of the establishment of the Bank of Sierra Leone and the introduction of the Leone. And for as long as he was Minister of Finance and Prime Minister the Leone remained on par with the Pound Sterling and the US Dollar.
This was Sir Albert Margai, visionary, doer, and exemplary manager. Rarely does one man embody all these gifts, but Sir Albert did embody them all. Men and women of uncommon abilities such as Sir Albert possessed must be savored and revered for the priceless gems that they are. That we did not see how special this man was, and did not see fit to keep him in the job for far longer than a mere three years is our loss. Where would Sierra Leone be today had Sir Albert served for ten years instead of a mere three years? Where would Sierra Leone be today if we respected constitutional provisions and allowed Sir Albert and his SLPP to serve in peace as the loyal opposition, the same as they had done for the APC? THINK ABOUT IT.
Subject: Hero my Rump
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 16:44:10 03/11/07 ()
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117. The Commission recorded instances from Kailahun District in 1991 of the establishment of ‘eating areas’ in which fighters would gather habitually to devour the flesh of their victims. Killings were committed in order to acquire ‘human meat’. Even in instances where those who subsequently cannibalised the corpse were not the killers,the families were deprived of their right to respectful burial of the deceased.
125. A woman testified to her husband being eaten by the Kamajors:
“TheKamajors brought the head of my husband, gave me the head cut off andsaid I should give them money to buy tomato paste, magi, onions forthem to cook the head and eat. I gave them the sum of one thousandLeones. They hit my hands, stripped me naked and took from me the sumof 50,000 Leones. I have the scar marks on my left hand near to mywrist. Further more they went with the head to town dancing with itwhile his flesh was in the pot in front of my house cooking for them toeat.“
118. The Kamajors, who constituted the CDF of theSouthern and Eastern Regions, founded their existence partly upon aceremony known as ‘initiation’, in which recruits were marshalled through a rigorous series of physical and psychological challenges.This veiled form of psychological torture bears striking parallels withthe RUF/SL’s strategy of ‘de-institutionalising’ its forced recruits.
119.Organs, tissue, blood and flesh from the bodies of dead persons - some of them relatives of Kamajors - were used in the ceremony of initiation. Civilians from communities surrounding the initiation site and even would-be recruits were killed for the express purposes of‘sacrificing them to the cause’.
120. The Commission recorded testimony that pregnant women were killed by the Kamajors in order to extract parts of their bodies for use in initiation ceremonies.Furthermore some Kamajors carried ‘charms’ or ‘fetishes’ with them which were constituted of human remains, including the mutilated genitalia of women.
121. In some of the cases recorded by the Commission, the Kamajors who participated in initiation ceremonies that involved the eating of human flesh were unaware of the ‘materials’ that had been used in preparing the ‘ceremony’, or indeed the manner through which they had been acquired. Thus, added to the incidence of human sacrifice, some Kamajors participated unwittingly in cannibalism.Testimony before the Commission indicated that they became aware of this only subsequently, yet they also didn’t do anything to stop the practice. This was a perversion of people’s perceptions of the‘justness’ of the cause, or the nature of the initiative, and smacks of deceit and exploitation by the leaders of the Kamajors.
122.The ‘Initiators’ of the Kamajor Society in concert with theirassistants, or ‘apprentices’, prepared the ‘food’ for initiationceremonies and also indoctrinated the ‘initiates’, most of who wereilliterate, with the ‘belief’ that certain supernatural powers would be bestowed upon them through the practice of cannibalism and human sacrifice.
“In fact, some AFRC ‘sobel’ captives who were held inprison were at the same time handed over to the Kamajors. One AFRC captive was brought out of his prison cell and laid on the ground; he had his chest split open with a cutlass, divided into two halves. The Kamajors took out his heart, kidney and liver, which I saw‘respirating’ or beating, and I saw the Kamajor man starting to eat the above-named organs, and the intestines, raw - without cooking them or roasting them - publicly, in the open, before everyone. This induced the town and chiefdom elders into making arrangements for the feeding,transportation and all other necessary logistical support for the Kamajors so that all courage would be given to them to defend the township. From this point, things started going on fine, as normal,everyday activities were resumed.”
123. In particular, the High Priest of the Kamajor Society, self-styled King Dr. Allieu Kondewah,played a key role in the practice of cannibalism and human sacrifice.Evidence available to the Commission indicates that these violations were carried out with the full knowledge of the National Co-ordinatorof the Civil Defence Forces (CDF), Chief Samuel Hinga Norman, who appears in fact to have actively encouraged them.
124. Witnesses told the Commission that the practice of such violations by the Kamajors was brought to the attention of the President, Alhaji Dr.Ahmad Tejan Kabbah, who neither sanctioned nor condemned those responsible, and who in fact continued to endorse the activities of the CDF thereafter. The witnesses stated that the President organised a meeting at his office after his restoration to power in 1998 where members of the War Council at Base Zero gave him a comprehensive briefing of their activities. Furthermore, many of them subsequently came to see the President privately where they notified him of the terrible practices going on within the Kamajor camps. The witnesses claimed that the President lamented his inability to call Chief Norman to order for fear that he might incite the Kamajors to revolt against the Government. However, the president was alleged to have issued an order banning further initiations within the Kamajor movement. The order was however largely ignored by the initiators.
Subject: Re: Hero my Rump
From: Chief Justice FM Kutubu
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Date Posted: 14:47:00 03/13/07 ()
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What i have gathered from the evidence above is that even our chiefs, local imams,secret society leaders like our SOWEIS and LEGBAS are all CANNIBALS.
Alieu, you are perfectly entitled to your views but to target a specific group of people and call them CANNIBALS just because of what you've heard people say in a court that i think is a fix and racist is unfair. If the statements which this court has recorded and made against the Kamajors who are predominantly Mende, were made by a white man to a Sierra Leone the comment would be no less racist. But again my brother, I am only looking at it from a san san boy point of view not as a Lawyer.
Alieu, during the war, APC government troops were seen driving around cities in military trucks with human head tied to the front bumper of their truck with blood dripping on them.
APC government Soldiers were summarily executing people suspected of being RUF rebels without any trials in a court of law. That process was called "WASS."
Even the then President of the APC knew about these barbaric behaviour and it appears he did nothing to stop it. All he said was this, dem Mende den dae fet denself den, den dae lie say nar wah. It continued till he was overthrown.
People witnessed a Soldier called AGBAMULATAY who was using human SKULL as a cup to drink palm wine. Other people also saw him drinking from this human SKULL whenever he visited any ghetto or poyor bar. He also had a female breast that he carried round and was always happy to show people. He love to boast about this war trophy.
I have also been told by my friend an ex soldier that his commanding officer once PUT HOT WATER FOS PAN WAN PO PO VILLAGE PA BEFORE EE SHOOT AM BECAUSE EE SAY NAR DEN DAE CALL WE SOBELS EN DAE GO BELL FOR WE NAR TONG.
Subject: Re: Hero my Rump
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Date Posted: 17:44:44 03/11/07 ()
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Do I hear President Kabbah had even promised to issue these kamajors with certificates and medallions of recognition and erect monuments on their behalf?
The Republic of Sierra Leone State House On-Line website of August 6, 2003 under the heading "President Kabbah addresses Kamajors in Bo" reports
“On the proposed CDF monuments, medals and certificates of recognition, President Kabbah indicated that a series of very serious discrepancies in the estimates submitted to government by contractors had caused the delay in their procurement.
One such discrepancy he cited had to do with the conflicting numbers of CDF personnel deserving awards and what number of certificates to print and where. He said an earlier estimate submitted for the printing of certificates indicated that there were some ninety thousand (90,000) Kamajors across the country. He said this was later changed to eight thousand (8000) Kamajors only. He further explained that while the government printer was prepared to print the certificates locally and free of cost, some stockholders wanted to have the certificates printed abroad at very astronomical and prohibitive costs.
In addition, the President lamented that the estimated costs of erecting the monument had also kept on rising erratically some from as low as Le. 4,600,000 to Le 10,000,000 and above. “This kind of discrepancy does not augur well for sound financial management,” the President remarked. However, he displayed samples of ten thousand medals already procured as proof of government's commitment, but regretted that government had not yet been able to set a suitable date and venue for the award ceremony”.
Subject: Hero my Rump
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 16:43:50 03/11/07 ()
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117. The Commission recorded instances from Kailahun District in 1991 of the establishment of ‘eating areas’ in which fighters would gather habitually to devour the flesh of their victims. Killings were committed in order to acquire ‘human meat’. Even in instances where those who subsequently cannibalised the corpse were not the killers,the families were deprived of their right to respectful burial of the deceased.
118. The Kamajors, who constituted the CDF of theSouthern and Eastern Regions, founded their existence partly upon aceremony known as ‘initiation’, in which recruits were marshalled through a rigorous series of physical and psychological challenges.This veiled form of psychological torture bears striking parallels withthe RUF/SL’s strategy of ‘de-institutionalising’ its forced recruits.
119.Organs, tissue, blood and flesh from the bodies of dead persons - some of them relatives of Kamajors - were used in the ceremony of initiation. Civilians from communities surrounding the initiation site and even would-be recruits were killed for the express purposes of‘sacrificing them to the cause’.
120. The Commission recorded testimony that pregnant women were killed by the Kamajors in order to extract parts of their bodies for use in initiation ceremonies.Furthermore some Kamajors carried ‘charms’ or ‘fetishes’ with them which were constituted of human remains, including the mutilated genitalia of women.
121. In some of the cases recorded by the Commission, the Kamajors who participated in initiation ceremonies that involved the eating of human flesh were unaware of the ‘materials’ that had been used in preparing the ‘ceremony’, or indeed the manner through which they had been acquired. Thus, added to the incidence of human sacrifice, some Kamajors participated unwittingly in cannibalism.Testimony before the Commission indicated that they became aware of this only subsequently, yet they also didn’t do anything to stop the practice. This was a perversion of people’s perceptions of the‘justness’ of the cause, or the nature of the initiative, and smacks of deceit and exploitation by the leaders of the Kamajors.
122.The ‘Initiators’ of the Kamajor Society in concert with theirassistants, or ‘apprentices’, prepared the ‘food’ for initiationceremonies and also indoctrinated the ‘initiates’, most of who wereilliterate, with the ‘belief’ that certain supernatural powers would be bestowed upon them through the practice of cannibalism and human sacrifice.
“In fact, some AFRC ‘sobel’ captives who were held inprison were at the same time handed over to the Kamajors. One AFRC captive was brought out of his prison cell and laid on the ground; he had his chest split open with a cutlass, divided into two halves. The Kamajors took out his heart, kidney and liver, which I saw‘respirating’ or beating, and I saw the Kamajor man starting to eat the above-named organs, and the intestines, raw - without cooking them or roasting them - publicly, in the open, before everyone. This induced the town and chiefdom elders into making arrangements for the feeding,transportation and all other necessary logistical support for the Kamajors so that all courage would be given to them to defend the township. From this point, things started going on fine, as normal,everyday activities were resumed.”
123. In particular, the High Priest of the Kamajor Society, self-styled King Dr. Allieu Kondewah,played a key role in the practice of cannibalism and human sacrifice.Evidence available to the Commission indicates that these violations were carried out with the full knowledge of the National Co-ordinatorof the Civil Defence Forces (CDF), Chief Samuel Hinga Norman, who appears in fact to have actively encouraged them.
124. Witnesses told the Commission that the practice of such violations by the Kamajors was brought to the attention of the President, Alhaji Dr.Ahmad Tejan Kabbah, who neither sanctioned nor condemned those responsible, and who in fact continued to endorse the activities of the CDF thereafter. The witnesses stated that the President organised a meeting at his office after his restoration to power in 1998 where members of the War Council at Base Zero gave him a comprehensive briefing of their activities. Furthermore, many of them subsequently came to see the President privately where they notified him of the terrible practices going on within the Kamajor camps. The witnesses claimed that the President lamented his inability to call Chief Norman to order for fear that he might incite the Kamajors to revolt against the Government. However, the president was alleged to have issued an order banning further initiations within the Kamajor movement. The order was however largely ignored by the initiators.
Subject: Re: Hero my Rump
From: Kohtoh Kamal
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Date Posted: 05:19:12 03/12/07 ()
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You are a joke! You and the APC WILL NEVER again rule Sierra Leone. So you are stilltrying to justify your paltry $50,000 fees to persecute a hero? You coward. Now go try to persecute Bush and Rumsfeld for Iraq or Churchill and Roosevelt for Normandy and all those civilians killed! There is always a Judas in evry nation: the Republicans found you and you think you are all-that!
Subject: Re: Hero my Rump
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 05:28:42 03/12/07 ()
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Insult me all you want. Hinga Norman was no hero. May be a hero to you but to most sierra leoneans he is not. In fact the TRC said so in so many words. The real Judas are those who fail to steer our great nation on the right path. The real judas are those who make heros out of cannibals.
Subject: Re: Hero my Rump
From: Kohtoh Kamal
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Date Posted: 09:11:08 03/12/07 ()
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Well, even Jesus was persecuted. If Sierra Leone had even two or three of Hinga Norman, all big cities will be like Bo, which was untouched by rebels. You can try to justify your despicable acts all you want, but your motivation was money and YOU know it. The motivations for te Americans, your masters, was to show the world what it is like to persecute good people (themselves) if their soldiers were subject to similar int'l laws.
Subject: Hero my Rump
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 16:44:18 03/11/07 ()
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117. The Commission recorded instances from Kailahun District in 1991 of the establishment of ‘eating areas’ in which fighters would gather habitually to devour the flesh of their victims. Killings were committed in order to acquire ‘human meat’. Even in instances where those who subsequently cannibalised the corpse were not the killers,the families were deprived of their right to respectful burial of the deceased.
118. The Kamajors, who constituted the CDF of theSouthern and Eastern Regions, founded their existence partly upon aceremony known as ‘initiation’, in which recruits were marshalled through a rigorous series of physical and psychological challenges.This veiled form of psychological torture bears striking parallels withthe RUF/SL’s strategy of ‘de-institutionalising’ its forced recruits.
119.Organs, tissue, blood and flesh from the bodies of dead persons - some of them relatives of Kamajors - were used in the ceremony of initiation. Civilians from communities surrounding the initiation site and even would-be recruits were killed for the express purposes of‘sacrificing them to the cause’.
120. The Commission recorded testimony that pregnant women were killed by the Kamajors in order to extract parts of their bodies for use in initiation ceremonies.Furthermore some Kamajors carried ‘charms’ or ‘fetishes’ with them which were constituted of human remains, including the mutilated genitalia of women.
121. In some of the cases recorded by the Commission, the Kamajors who participated in initiation ceremonies that involved the eating of human flesh were unaware of the ‘materials’ that had been used in preparing the ‘ceremony’, or indeed the manner through which they had been acquired. Thus, added to the incidence of human sacrifice, some Kamajors participated unwittingly in cannibalism.Testimony before the Commission indicated that they became aware of this only subsequently, yet they also didn’t do anything to stop the practice. This was a perversion of people’s perceptions of the‘justness’ of the cause, or the nature of the initiative, and smacks of deceit and exploitation by the leaders of the Kamajors.
122.The ‘Initiators’ of the Kamajor Society in concert with theirassistants, or ‘apprentices’, prepared the ‘food’ for initiationceremonies and also indoctrinated the ‘initiates’, most of who wereilliterate, with the ‘belief’ that certain supernatural powers would be bestowed upon them through the practice of cannibalism and human sacrifice.
“In fact, some AFRC ‘sobel’ captives who were held inprison were at the same time handed over to the Kamajors. One AFRC captive was brought out of his prison cell and laid on the ground; he had his chest split open with a cutlass, divided into two halves. The Kamajors took out his heart, kidney and liver, which I saw‘respirating’ or beating, and I saw the Kamajor man starting to eat the above-named organs, and the intestines, raw - without cooking them or roasting them - publicly, in the open, before everyone. This induced the town and chiefdom elders into making arrangements for the feeding,transportation and all other necessary logistical support for the Kamajors so that all courage would be given to them to defend the township. From this point, things started going on fine, as normal,everyday activities were resumed.”
123. In particular, the High Priest of the Kamajor Society, self-styled King Dr. Allieu Kondewah,played a key role in the practice of cannibalism and human sacrifice.Evidence available to the Commission indicates that these violations were carried out with the full knowledge of the National Co-ordinatorof the Civil Defence Forces (CDF), Chief Samuel Hinga Norman, who appears in fact to have actively encouraged them.
124. Witnesses told the Commission that the practice of such violations by the Kamajors was brought to the attention of the President, Alhaji Dr.Ahmad Tejan Kabbah, who neither sanctioned nor condemned those responsible, and who in fact continued to endorse the activities of the CDF thereafter. The witnesses stated that the President organised a meeting at his office after his restoration to power in 1998 where members of the War Council at Base Zero gave him a comprehensive briefing of their activities. Furthermore, many of them subsequently came to see the President privately where they notified him of the terrible practices going on within the Kamajor camps. The witnesses claimed that the President lamented his inability to call Chief Norman to order for fear that he might incite the Kamajors to revolt against the Government. However, the president was alleged to have issued an order banning further initiations within the Kamajor movement. The order was however largely ignored by the initiators.
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117. The Commission recorded instances from Kailahun District in 1991 of the establishment of ‘eating areas’ in which fighters would gather habitually to devour the flesh of their victims. Killings were committed in order to acquire ‘human meat’. Even in instances where those who subsequently cannibalised the corpse were not the killers,the families were deprived of their right to respectful burial of the deceased.
125. A woman testified to her husband being eaten by the Kamajors:
“TheKamajors brought the head of my husband, gave me the head cut off andsaid I should give them money to buy tomato paste, magi, onions forthem to cook the head and eat. I gave them the sum of one thousandLeones. They hit my hands, stripped me naked and took from me the sumof 50,000 Leones. I have the scar marks on my left hand near to mywrist. Further more they went with the head to town dancing with itwhile his flesh was in the pot in front of my house cooking for them toeat.“
118. The Kamajors, who constituted the CDF of theSouthern and Eastern Regions, founded their existence partly upon aceremony known as ‘initiation’, in which recruits were marshalled through a rigorous series of physical and psychological challenges.This veiled form of psychological torture bears striking parallels withthe RUF/SL’s strategy of ‘de-institutionalising’ its forced recruits.
119.Organs, tissue, blood and flesh from the bodies of dead persons - some of them relatives of Kamajors - were used in the ceremony of initiation. Civilians from communities surrounding the initiation site and even would-be recruits were killed for the express purposes of‘sacrificing them to the cause’.
120. The Commission recorded testimony that pregnant women were killed by the Kamajors in order to extract parts of their bodies for use in initiation ceremonies.Furthermore some Kamajors carried ‘charms’ or ‘fetishes’ with them which were constituted of human remains, including the mutilated genitalia of women.
121. In some of the cases recorded by the Commission, the Kamajors who participated in initiation ceremonies that involved the eating of human flesh were unaware of the ‘materials’ that had been used in preparing the ‘ceremony’, or indeed the manner through which they had been acquired. Thus, added to the incidence of human sacrifice, some Kamajors participated unwittingly in cannibalism.Testimony before the Commission indicated that they became aware of this only subsequently, yet they also didn’t do anything to stop the practice. This was a perversion of people’s perceptions of the‘justness’ of the cause, or the nature of the initiative, and smacks of deceit and exploitation by the leaders of the Kamajors.
122.The ‘Initiators’ of the Kamajor Society in concert with theirassistants, or ‘apprentices’, prepared the ‘food’ for initiationceremonies and also indoctrinated the ‘initiates’, most of who wereilliterate, with the ‘belief’ that certain supernatural powers would be bestowed upon them through the practice of cannibalism and human sacrifice.
“In fact, some AFRC ‘sobel’ captives who were held inprison were at the same time handed over to the Kamajors. One AFRC captive was brought out of his prison cell and laid on the ground; he had his chest split open with a cutlass, divided into two halves. The Kamajors took out his heart, kidney and liver, which I saw‘respirating’ or beating, and I saw the Kamajor man starting to eat the above-named organs, and the intestines, raw - without cooking them or roasting them - publicly, in the open, before everyone. This induced the town and chiefdom elders into making arrangements for the feeding,transportation and all other necessary logistical support for the Kamajors so that all courage would be given to them to defend the township. From this point, things started going on fine, as normal,everyday activities were resumed.”
123. In particular, the High Priest of the Kamajor Society, self-styled King Dr. Allieu Kondewah,played a key role in the practice of cannibalism and human sacrifice.Evidence available to the Commission indicates that these violations were carried out with the full knowledge of the National Co-ordinatorof the Civil Defence Forces (CDF), Chief Samuel Hinga Norman, who appears in fact to have actively encouraged them.
124. Witnesses told the Commission that the practice of such violations by the Kamajors was brought to the attention of the President, Alhaji Dr.Ahmad Tejan Kabbah, who neither sanctioned nor condemned those responsible, and who in fact continued to endorse the activities of the CDF thereafter. The witnesses stated that the President organised a meeting at his office after his restoration to power in 1998 where members of the War Council at Base Zero gave him a comprehensive briefing of their activities. Furthermore, many of them subsequently came to see the President privately where they notified him of the terrible practices going on within the Kamajor camps. The witnesses claimed that the President lamented his inability to call Chief Norman to order for fear that he might incite the Kamajors to revolt against the Government. However, the president was alleged to have issued an order banning further initiations within the Kamajor movement. The order was however largely ignored by the initiators.
Subject: Kamajor bit his ear off and ate it.
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1478. Kamajors were prominent among those scouring theWest of Freetown, determined to catch perceived key figures of the RUFmovement. The Commission found it remarkable that throughout theoperation, the Kamajors appeared to work in harmony with the West Side Boys,their once arch enemies. Several testimonies from captives mentioned morethan one faction involved in single arbitrary arrests accompanied by brutalphysical violations. The following example comes from an RUFP member whohad fled in fear from Sankoh’s Lodge on 8 May 2000:
“I ran out of the house with afew others. I escaped and on my way I came along some Kamajors and someWest Side Boys. I was caught around Wilberforce and they put me undergunpoint. Fortunately for me they did not kill me, but [they] stripped menaked without briefs and I was beaten mercilessly.
One of the Kamajors bit my leftear, cut part of it off with his teeth and ate it raw in my presence. They asked me to walk forward because they were going to kill me.
Subject: “One of the Kamajors dragged me outside and cut off my left
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46.The following victims narrated to the Commission how they were forcedto eat parts of their own bodies by the Kamajors and the RUFrespectively:
“One of the Kamajors dragged me outside and cut off my left ear and told me to chew it under gun point.”
“Itold them there was nothing more and I kept pleading for mercy. Stillone of them came from among their lot and cut off my left ear and thenput the half into my mouth to eat. As I chewed, the blood oozed out ofmy mouth. But as I wanted to take it out he hit me with a gun. Still Iwas pleading to [them to] show mercy. They told me that the nextoperation was going to be my penis, which they were going to cut off. Iwas then held, tied up and dropped to the ground. They opened my legsand put them apart. My scrotum was first held and pierced open. Thepenis was then held as well and chopped off using the same knife. Afterthat they left me and went away to my village where they assembled intheir numbers.”
47. The CDF and the RUF account for the majorityof the forced cannibalism violations. For every other violationcategory, the majority of that violation type are attributed to the RUF.
Subject: Re: “One of the Kamajors dragged me outside and cut off my left
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Alieu you have told us here that he RUF were a bunch of rapist.Just as you have also called Chief Norma and the Kamajors CANNIBALS. Therefor if what you told us about the RUF is correct that they were indeed RAPIST. Then maybe the Kamajors were just about right in CASTRATING this young Rapist. Because i have heard cases of RAPIST been CASTRATED even in the USA where you live. And please do not tell me that they only do it by administering an injection, the Kamajors had no injection so they have to do it the local way.Which is to chop his BOLLOCKS OFF. This boy could be brought foward and proof of his mutilation would be evidenced there and then but not evidence of the perpetrator.
Subject: How it happened. Lest we forget
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The Executions and Associated Violations of December 1992
325. On 29th December 1992, the airwaves burst withthe news of an attempted coup on the government of Valentine Strasser. On the30th it was announced that the coup plotters numbering 26 had been executedafter a trial by a military court-martial. According to Strasser, “agroup of officers and civilians had attacked the presidential residence at KabassaLodge” in Freetown.
326. The mastermind of the story of the coup plot wasthe Vice Chairman of the NPRC, Captain SAJ Musa. SAJ Musa’s version was thatsomeone came and informed him about the plan in the offing; he then spiked theofficer and sent him back to report – on two further meetings, in which thelist of those involved was compiled and various items of documentary evidencewere apparently procured. Strasser claimed in his testimony to theCommission that there was in fact a plot to overthrow his government. What has become evident is that despite the official posturing in 1992, nojudicial trials of the coup plotters took place. According to Strasser, hisgovernment was too busy with the war effort to organise a trial immediately. Atrial was subsequently organised posthumously. Some of the alleged coupplotters like Lt. Col. Yaya Kanu were actually in detention at Pademba Roadprison at the time of the alleged coup plot.
http://trcsierraleone.org/drwebsite/publish/v3a-c3.shtml?page=42
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Subject: Re: How it happened. Lest we forget
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Now that it has become clear that Salami Coker and 29 others were murdered, isnt it about time that the SLPP government offers some modicum of monetary compensation to the families of those who were murdered?
Subject: The SLPP connection to the RUF
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225. Moreover, the social, economic and politicalconditions were amenable to a programme of the sort that the RUF purported tostand for. The area was known to be a hotbed of support for the SLPP,which made it relatively easy to derive cheap ‘revolutionary’ capital out ofthe political inclinations of the populace by adopting a signature colour ofgreen and an emblem of palm fronds as RUF symbols. The followingtestimony suggests that these tactics were a rather crude effort, since thesymbolism was not even understood by some of the people who were meant tospread its practice:
“There was a littleboy who ran up to me as soon as he saw me. He asked if I was a ‘Momohsoldier’. At that time they were speaking Liberian pigeon language. The boy asked me if I was a ‘Momoh soldier’. I said I was not a soldier. I asked him who brought the war. He said they had somebody supportingthem and his name was Foday Sankoh [and] that he was a Sierra Leonean. ‘We have just come to remove APC’, he said. The other boy said that we should have a palm tree or a green cloth tied on our hand.”
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
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This sounds quite accurate.But why all the drama, about War, UN Peacekeepers,Nigerians,TRC, Special Court etc etc
I thought, RUF had to remove APC, which they did, and that should have been the end of story.
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
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It should have been the end of the story except that duirng the process many things were done which were quite wrong. There was no justification for it. As much as people want the APC to "apologise" for its past wrongs or perceived wrongs, the people of sierra leone equally want those responsible to apoligise for the excesses of the warring factions which was more so worng because it reflected large scale injustice much more than the APC was ever able to perpetrte against the people of sierra leone.
every side in the war was rsponsible for war crimes against the people of siera leone, including the nigerian led ECOMOG. I am all for indicting certain members of the ECOMOG for crimes against humanity. My cause is for the remdy of the injustices against the innocent and if anyone chooses to believe that I am against them then it is their bag to hang on to. My cause is for JUSTICE. and nothing else.
What galls me is the fact that there are some amongst us who want to recreate facts that are unfavorable to them and want to shove it down our throats and we reject that. The truth must be spoken. It hurts but if any healing must take place it should start first with the truth.
The role of the SLPP in the initial stages of the RUF war is questionable. Most SLPPmembers are in denial regards the role of their party in the most brutal decade of sierra leones existence. They must come to terms with it, admit it and offer an apology to the nation as a whole. The more they deny it and the more they attempt to offer explanations for it the more we realsie that the SLPP is not contrite, does not intend to accept and admit its role and does not have the interest of the country at heart.
We will pursue the truth.
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
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Alieu thanks for posting this and the site. I have heard the arguments for and against this cannibalism issue and I was very angry with you because you have always maintained that my people were connected to that. I have always thought that Hinga Norman and the kamajors were heros. My thinking is now different.
I must assure you that in my family, I know of no one who is a cannibal but then again you dont know. I will NEVER again throw my support behind these people. I have always been against the special court becaue I though that it and people like you were out to get us but I realise that this is testimony from the TRC which is something that we all supported.
I feel nothing but shame right now and those people like sengbe have mislead our people all along. Shame on them.
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
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34. Alie Kabba and five other students were arrested and detained for two months, while three lecturers - Cleo Hancilles, Olu Gordon and Jimmy Kandeh, the original founders of PANAFU - were summarily dismissed from the university without a proper explanation or compensation up to the present day.
35. Some of the expelled students eventually found their way to Ghana and gained admission into the University of Legon. From Ghana, Alie Kabba made frequent visits to Guinea and Libya and was also a regular visitor to the People’s Bureau (as the Libyan embassy was called) in Accra. According to Olu Gordon:
“The idea of the RUF actually came from the expelled students from Fourah Bay College, especially Alie Kabba. And the specific reason why it was called a “united front” was because they had attempted to draw several organisations into their plan, including the organisations belonging to the Pan African Union (PANAFU).’”
36. Other witnesses, who were part of PANAFU, as well as some members of the RUF, have challenged the veracity of this testimony. Indeed, Gordon’s account is not entirely accurate, since Alie Kabba’s umbrella idea went by a different name altogether - the Popular Democratic Front, with the acronym PDF - and had a non-violent agenda for change at its heart. RUF members further pointed out that at the time the students were in Libya, no name had been chosen for the movement they joined. The name RUF was coined by others in Libya and had no direct connection to PANAFU, which had by that time become detached from the revolutionary project.
Divergence of Youths and the Spiral into Violent Rebellion
37. The exiled students raised the idea with PANAFU in Freetown of sending members of their revolutionary “cells” in the city to undertake training programmes in Libya. Four trainees nominated by PANAFU left for Libya during the rainy season of 1987. By the time they returned in 1988, leading members of PANAFU were no longer committed to the revolutionary project, which led to a split in the movement. One group went underground and carried on planning for new batches of trainees, recruiting mainly marginalised youths from the city.
38. PANAFU’s withdrawal from the revolutionary project starved it of ideologically educated youths and turned it into what one writer has described as:
“an individual enterprise… any man (no attempt was made to recruit women) who felt the urge to acquire insurgency training in the service of the “revolution” [could join up]… This inevitably opened the way for the recruitment of lumpens.”
39. Alie Kabba had assumed the position of co-ordinator of the “revolution” because of his pre-existing links with Libya. Many trainees were opposed to Kabba’s leadership, though. They objected to his personal refusal to undergo military training. They also accused him and his friends in Ghana of “sitting on millions of dollars” and benefiting from their recruitment for training in Libya. By the time Kabba left Ghana for Libya, most of the trainees had revolted. The bulk of them had returned to Sierra Leone by 1989 or 1990 and never assumed roles in the RUF movement, or indeed in any of the factions that fought in the conflict.
40. Divergence of paths and purposes occurred during the time of the training in Libya. Sierra Leone’s original student revolutionaries realised they had little in common with some of their countrymen who trained on the camps near Tripoli. Alie Kabba and Cleo Hancilles, the two ideological driving forces, grew wary of the direction their project had assumed and decided to opt out. Into the resultant leadership vacuum stepped Foday Sankoh, an aggrieved former soldier of the Sierra Leone Army who was an anomalous, older presence among the mostly youthful trainees. In Libya, Sankoh met Charles Taylor, the leader of the Liberian trainees on the camp. The two men forged a joint plan for insurgencies in their respective countries, starting in Liberia and moving into Sierra Leone. From that moment on, the course of the “revolution” - and with it the destiny of the sub-region’s youth - changed irreversibly. Sankoh and a handful of cohorts made their way to Liberia and joined an insurgency alongside Taylor’s NPFL. Among the youths involved, only Abu Kanu, a graduate of Njala University College, had reached a level of higher education comparable to the original PANAFU-led group of the mid-1980s.
41. Foday Sankoh began to assemble more fighters for his RUF rebellion in 1990. He used Charles Taylor’s NPFL bases and logistics to train Sierra Leoneans from diverse backgrounds who had been caught up in the turmoil in Liberia. Some were migrant workers whom Sankoh plucked from prisons in NPFL control areas; others were marginalised urban youths and common criminals. They became known as the RUF “vanguards”. In March and April 1991, the vanguards entered Sierra Leone with a troop of NPFL commandos who outnumbered them by about four to one. The Sierra Leone conflict had begun, with youths from unlikely and unsettled circumstances very much to the fore.
42. After the launch of the armed rebellion, most of the youths who joined the RUF, or who were compelled to join the organisation, were marginalised rural youths. Thus different categories of youths were involved at distinct stages of the conflict history of Sierra Leone. Educated youths were involved in the formulation of ideas for revolution and regime change, instigating the training in Libya. Marginalised urban youths were involved in the bulk of the military training and the launch of the insurgency. Thereafter the bulk of the growing manpower of the RUF consisted of marginalised rural youths.
43. Youths who joined the RUF could be further distinguished according to those who joined voluntarily and those who were forced to join. Some of the youths who joined willingly were won over by the simplistic rhetoric of the movement and believed that their involvement would help to reform “the system” that had oppressed them for so long. They were fed up with the APC and wanted a change of government. According to a resident of Pujehun District:
“We assembled at the barray and they addressed us… “We have come to make Sierra Leone a better Sierra Leone… Sierra Leoneans are suffering… education is expensive… we have come to get rid of the APC rule”… After their address, we were happy and prepared food for them… They appointed a town commander… Some of them left after they had finished eating.”
44. However, whether by choice or against their will, practically all the recruits soon adopted forms of behaviour that characterised marginalised youths - drug addiction and violence. Involvement in the rebellion itself became an alienating and marginalising process. RUF and NPFL atrocities in Sierra Leone soon drew contempt and opposition from the communities they were attempting to win over. Youths who had joined the insurgency became completely alienated from their own people, either due to acts in which they participated personally or due to their association with the outrages perpetrated by the movement as a whole.
45. The involvement of youth in the conflict became infinitely more complicated in April 1992, when a band of youths in the Sierra Leone Army overthrew the APC in a coup and formed a military junta known as the NPRC. In an attempt to counter the insurgents at the warfront, the NPRC engaged in mass recruitment of marginalised urban youths into the Army. By 1992, therefore, almost the entire combatant population consisted of youths, on both sides of the battle.
46. It should be recalled that by the eve of the conflict most urban youth had lost all hope. They had sunk into an abyss of unemployment and disillusionment. In this state, fighting in the war seemed a viable alternative. It presented a means through which youths could possibly break out of their despair and transform their lives. Many youth aligned themselves with one or more of the factions and swiftly achieved what they considered progress: they were able to accrue “wealth” and “status” that otherwise would have been unattainable.
47. More youths joined the war when they saw how “profitable” the experience had proved for others. Instead of enduring long periods of unemployment, they looted money and goods. Rather than possessing no stake in society, no property and no hope for the future, they became “commandos” who could acquire guns, sex, food and drugs at their will. The opportunity cost of going to war was very low. War empowered them. Inevitably, such youths began to perceive personal benefits in the continuation of conflict. Across all factions they became the most vocal constituency resisting efforts to end the war.
48. Some youths joined the armed factions in order to carry out personal vendettas. Statements from Pujehun District indicate that some of the earliest recruits into the RUF on its Southern Front were militiamen who had participated in the so-called Ndorgboryosoi rebellion against the APC government in the early 1980s, but ultimately failed. The Commission also heard testimonies from various parts of the country about youths who had been ostracised from their communities in the past, only to return during war to lead fighters into attacking their people, destroying their communities and humiliating their chiefs, elders and members of their traditional authorities.
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
From: Sengbe Big Axe
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Date Posted: 01:04:19 03/12/07 ()
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So, who do we believe?
The mischevious bloke, the "witnesses", Olu Gordon, Ibrahim Abdullah, the PANAFU boys, or the commissioners? Who?
Having a green piece of cloth in the hand of a person, and / or waving a palm tree frond does not necessarily connect the SLPP to the RUF in its genesis, does it?
The SLPP cannot solely, and wholly, lay claim to the colour green.
This is simple logic.
Muamar Ghaddafi compiled his political thoughts in the so-called "GREEN BOOK". Is he SLPP? Should he be connected to the SLPP as a political entity, by your logic (which is quite erroneous btw)?
I guess the monochromaticy of a laser beam at 532nm which is GREEN in colour should also be ascribed to the SLPP.
Where is the logic in that stupid assertion of yours? Such utter RUBBISH!! And "it" claims to have a "legal mind".
I suppose that if the antics exposed in that commission report were conducted at a picnic, one would be ghastly flabbergasted. But these antics were purportedly perpetrated during a very BRUTAL war that was imposed on our peaceful defenceless folks from 1991 - 1995. What did you expect them to do after that gruesome period?
Gross brutality begets gross brutality.
Doesn't Islam preach the "an eye for an eye" doctrine that is practiced by more than a billion people?
The Brothers did not turn the other cheek. They fought back as brutally as was necessary to repel the enemy. And they won. What is wrong with that?
Don't bring war to us, we will fight to death, till the last person. That is the lesson you should learn from that report.
Do you know what went on during the two world wars? During the Korean, and Vietnam wars? During the Iran-Iraq war for eight years? In Iraq, presently?
Do you know what went on in the Congo? And still going on there?
War is war. War is ghastly. It is very bloody, and uncivilized. It is not a picnic. That is why we should resolve NEVER to fight another war.
Me don tire for talk ehn write in response to this brutal internecine war ya so. The war don don.
I am in mourning for my HERO, CHIEF SAM HINGA NORMAN.
You can lump it, if you don't like my response.
And you know exactly whom you are. With hateful, and despicable people like you on this forum, I won't be surprised if another war is not looming over the proverbial horizon in that country.
And you can also go to the hottest part of HELL for all I care.
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Yes Sir! Dr. Ibrahim ABDULLAH WHO GAVE $500 TO Foday Sankoh in Lome, Togo. They are all collaborators of the RUF.
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
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Sengbe your hero is a cannibal. Do you agree?
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
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Sengbe do you condone cannibalism? What is your position with regards to the SLPP role in the war? What is the basis of that position, personal knowledge? Did you have any members of your family who are kamajors/RUF?
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
From: M. Alieu Iscandari esq
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Having a green piece of cloth in the hand of a person, and / or waving a palm tree frond does not necessarily connect the SLPP to the RUF in its genesis, does it?
Yes it does proffessor particularly in the context. You are justified in getting angry about it but your anger is misplaced. You should be getting angry at the SLPP for paving the way for the creation of such an environment which caused such pain to many of our people.
Your flambouyant argument about the color of a laser beam is irrelevant and is reflective of the tendency of people like you to digress from the TRUTH. All of your arguments are likewise lame and your supposed insults have fallen on deaf ears. You are the reason why we in sierra leone have a lot to fear. Your threats of another war are lame because the people of sierra leone are tired of war, fighting and killing in the name of attaining political power.
The hottest part of hell is reserved for people like you who see the truth and want to sugarcoat it. You have for long claimed that the Special Court was out to get Norman and that it paid witnesses to testify against Norman and Co do you say the same for those witnesses who testified at the TRC? were they paid for their testimony also or is their testimony a further attempt to diminish the image of Norman and the SLPP.
Who gives a damn what happened in korea vietnam congo and all of these other places, we are talking about SIERRA LEONE. Let us restrict the conversation to what happened in sierra leone and no where else.
The issue is as follows: Is it true that during the RUF war, that people were asked to show symbols of the SLPP in order to be protected from abuses and if so, to what extent did the SLPP and its members participate in the RUF. This is the issue address it or stay out of it and keep your insults to your self if you dont mind.
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
From: ChiefJustice FM Kutubu
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Date Posted: 11:35:53 03/13/07 ()
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Having a green piece of cloth in the hand of a person, and / or waving a palm tree frond does not necessarily connect the SLPP to the RUF in its genesis, does it? Sengbe
Yes it does proffessor particularly in the context. You are justified in getting angry about it but your anger is misplaced. You should be getting angry at the SLPP for paving the way for the creation of such an environment which caused such pain to many of our people. Alieu
Gentlemen please allow me to butt in for a laugh.The symbol of the RUF i think is a LION, does that mean that Fourah bay Fullah Tong, the home of EAST END LIONS THE KILLERS were supporters of the RUF? The British SAS who went to whip the west side boys had palm fronds on their heads, were they using it as disguise in support of the TORKPOI? And what about NPRC soldiers wearing WHITE CLOTH on their heads. Was that a sign of surrender to the RUF as in WHITE FLAG? Boy am LOVIN IT LOVIN IT LOVIN IT.
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
From: Sengbe Big Axe
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Date Posted: 10:19:31 03/12/07 ()
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"...Yes it does proffessor particularly in the context..."
And that word is spelt like this: "Professor". There is only one "f" in that noun. Just a minor detail, I suppose, but I could not let it go uncorrected. No harm intended. It is the "Professor" in me.
"...You are justified in getting angry about it but your anger is misplaced..."
Who told you that I am angry? I am merely being a good Muslim here - one bad attitude begets another.
"...You should be getting angry at the SLPP for paving the way for the creation of such an environment which caused such pain to many of our people..."
Your fuzzy logic pertinent to this assertion is laughable to say the least. Was the SLPP in existence during this period? NO!!! Your one-party apc made sure of that, didn't she? So how can you tell such a blatant fib? Easy!! You are apc. That is what you guys are good for - fabricating falsehoods - thinking that if you persist in telling the same old LIES folks will ultimately believe you. Triteness is the name of your game, counselor. And we ain't buying it anymore, so go bark up another tree.
FYI, the SLPP came back into existence in 1994/5, four years after the war was waged on my peoples, so how could the SLPP - the political party - "pave the way for the creation of such an environment which caused such pain to many of our people?"
Check your facts before you keep perjuring yourself so unashamedly on a public forum in the eyes of the whole world.
"...Your [flambouyant] argument about the color of a laser beam is irrelevant and is reflective of the tendency of people like you to digress from the TRUTH..."
[I am doing a modibo here now]:
That "FLAMBOYANT" statement is NOT irrelevant to this debate. It is very germane to your assertion / inference that everything GREEN represents the SLPP, or what the SLPP stands for.
Talking about; all one had to do was to wrap a piece of green cloth around oneself, and / or wave a frond from the palm tree and you'd be spared from being "butchered" by the Brothers and / or the maggots.
Doesn't that statement sound so silly to you?
You know what? Fifty thousand innocent souls would have been saved during the war if that simple act was followed knowingly by the victims of that brutal war.
Do you mean to state here that those who were spared for performing that act did not tell their neighbours who were victims of the warring factions? What a dreadful shame in the callousness of that omission on their part. And please believe me, I am NOT "digressing from the truth", because this is another blatant lie coming from you.
Bra grow up, we are intelligent adults here on this forum, and in peeperdom as well. You cannot tell such elementary lies here and go unchallenged. This must be another one of your KHAZALI SYNDROMES in the apc that you are trying to interject on this forum? And you know what happened to him after the truth was unearthed through the judicial system?
"...and your supposed insults have fallen on deaf ears..."
Coming from you, I see some latent maturity here. This is a very good sign. Please uphold it.
"...You are the reason why we in sierra leone have a lot to fear..."
I had to laugh at that one.
Me? A handsome "dove" like me?
Bra you have nothing to fear from me, and "mines", except when you mention my daughter, my late mother, and my late father in derision on this forum. For doing so, please be warned that you must be "strapped" on the ocassion when we face each other in the future. My boys will be. Ehn dis norto opin call oh. Nar fact.
"...Your threats of another war are lame because the people of sierra leone are tired of war, fighting and killing in the name of attaining political power..."
Now where did I make those threats? Did you really understand that part of my piece? I was alluding to your incendiary nature, which you camouflage as the so-called "truth". People like you will be the reason for another uprising in that nation - with your incessant anti-Mende sentiments. Just keep it up. Are you so bold when you are in Sa Lon? Is that why you left the un-special court barely after a short stint?
If u tink say nar provoking dar wan dae, bra norto all man dae laff. U geh peeple dem back home. {No threat from me intended, for sure} But try lef dis anti-mende stuff yah so. However, your right to free speech must be upheld. But incendiary speeches? That should be a no go area for a guy from a prominent family such as yours.
"...the people of sierra leone are tired of war, fighting and killing in the name of attaining political power..."
Well! ain't that a bleep? Coming from an apc apologist on this forum. Bra we know u. Were you not the one who posted articles from the TRC report? Did you not read what the apc did to the FBC students that led to their revolutionary radicalization? If not, then you must be blind.
I do not know what happened to your father / family, and his home during the war, but Bra Yayah asked you a question the other day which pricked my curiosity: "Was it the Kamajors or maggots, or sobels who attacked your father's home during the invasion of Freetong?"
An answer to this question will lead us to an understanding of your stand in prosecuting "your truth" in this hateful, and incendiary nature / manner of yours on this forum, and perhaps elsewhere.
"...The hottest part of hell is reserved for people like you who see the truth and want to sugarcoat it...
"
That is another lie coming from you. Don't you know that I am really an "ANGEL" on this earth? I will reside in the kingdom of the Most High, GOD, when I die, fifty years from now.
Sengbe don't tell no lie. I have told y'all that on several ocassions, hence there is no "sugarcoating" emanating from me. A lie is a lie, is a lie. The truth nar een dae last forever.
"...You have for long claimed that the Special Court was out to get Norman and that it paid witnesses to testify against Norman and Co do you say the same for those witnesses who testified at the TRC?..."
Well! don't you recognize the pattern? Pattern recognition is part of my job in my professional career.
You wait and see, Issa Sesay is next in line for the virtual noose of your un-special court.
And what witnesses are you alluding to, "who testified at the TRC"? I was told most of them were paid a measly $100. For what? I don't know.
Why then did Crane and da Silva leave the un-special court so unceremoniously? And how about you, yourself, why did you leave so unceremoniously? I know, you will soon tell me that it is none of my business. But the people would like to know, since you are always after the "truth"?
"...were they paid for their testimony also or is their testimony a further attempt to diminish the image of Norman and the SLPP..."
I don't know. You tell us. U wuz there. Wuz u not?
"...Who gives a damn what happened in korea vietnam congo and all of these other places, we are talking about SIERRA LEONE..."
You should give a damn what happens during the prosecution of a war, so that you don't INCITE it.
I merely brought that up to remind folks about the gruesome things that can happen during a war.
WE MUST NEVER STUDY WAR NO MORE!!!
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 13:21:30 03/13/07 ()
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"Bra you have nothing to fear from me, and "mines", except when you mention my daughter, my late mother, and my late father in derision on this forum. For doing so, please be warned that you must be "strapped" on the ocassion when we face each other in the future. My boys will be. Ehn dis norto opin call oh. Nar fact."
You really are not a civilized man, neither are you a smart man as the above quoted threat of violence indicates. I am not by nature a violent man. I would rather we settle our differences over a game of chess and may the best man win. My penchant for non violence notwithstanding, I do hold dear to the principle that if I am attacked, I will defend myself "by any means necessary". That of course you will agree with me is the natural reaction of any human being.
Why I left the special court is none of your damn business and it should do you well to not engage in wild speculation about it. With regards to Crane and Da Silva, I am not unfit to present a defense on their behalf, not having been called tto do so by the two erudite gentlemen. Suffice it to say however, that having worked in the same environment as these two gentlemen, I would rather be in their presence than in yours. Think about this for a minute.
"Now where did I make those threats? Did you really understand that part of my piece? I was alluding to your incendiary nature, which you camouflage as the so-called "truth". People like you will be the reason for another uprising in that nation - with your incessant anti-Mende sentiments. Just keep it up. Are you so bold when you are in Sa Lon? Is that why you left the un-special court barely after a short stint?
If u tink say nar provoking dar wan dae, bra norto all man dae laff. U geh peeple dem back home. {No threat from me intended, for sure} But try lef dis anti-mende stuff yah so. However, your right to free speech must be upheld. But incendiary speeches? That should be a no go area for a guy from a prominent family such as yours.
Sengbe do you suggest that posting a part of what is a public document which catalogues the atrocities through the eyes of the witnesses to the TRC, incendiary speeches? Your definition of what is incendiary is really a catch all definition and it is incendiary ONLY to you. Sengbe any threats however "veiled" against my person or my family would not be taken lightly. You should stop making these threats. We are living in an era where these threats of violence however veiled can be taken seriously by the authorities. In fact I have decided to make a copy of this e mail and send it to your department head at your school and the president of your college. I do believe that comming from you this is a credible threat and knowing what has happened in sierra leone before, I must take this seriously. I will act accordingly. There should be no place for threats against the life and safety however veiled, against people for posting on this and any other forum.
Your mention of my being anti mende is another red herring. I want you to understand that I am anti SLPP and my posts reflect that. If you consider that to be anti mende, then I can understand how you may have come to that conclusion. You are one of those who believe that the SLPP is synonymous to Mende and that being anti slpp means that one is automatically anti mende. Thats reflective of an immature thought process and its baseless.
The rest of your post I have chosen to ignore because it irrelevant, immaterial and non responsive to the initial issue you puport to address, which is, What role did the SLPP its agents and progeny play in the formation of the RUF and whether or not any display of SLPP symbolism to wit a palm frond, Branch from a palm tree and or the color green was considered by the RUF to be reason for reprieve.
I ask that you address the question or leave the issue to more analytical minds to discuss. Of course I am expecting you to come out swinging with "negative invectives"
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
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We have just come to remove APC’, he said. The other boy said that we should have a palm tree or a green cloth tied on our hand.”
Address the testimony of the witness at the TRC and stop making personal attacks against other people you PEON.
Subject: Re: HERO INDEED
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123. In particular, the High Priest of the Kamajor Society, self-styled King Dr. Allieu Kondewah,played a key role in the practice of cannibalism and human sacrifice.Evidence available to the Commission indicates that these violations were carried out with the full knowledge of the National Co-ordinatorof the Civil Defence Forces (CDF), Chief Samuel Hinga Norman, who appears in fact to have actively encouraged them.
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
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Repression of Student Demonstrations in the 1970s and 1980s and the Evolution of Revolutionary Thinking
26. Student leaders were conversant in theories of liberation and spiced up their discussions with quotes from revolutionaries like Kwame Nkrumah, Marcus Garvey, Wallace-Johnson, Fidel Castro, Malcolm X and Steve Biko. Students and school leavers read extensively and intensively outside their fields of study in order to contribute meaningfully to philosophical debates and discussions that lasted far into the night. Another significant influence was the presence of refugees from Zimbabwe, South Africa and Namibia on almost all campuses. Their experiences as freedom fighters made them influential in student circles and they occupied leadership positions in some student union executives.
27. Student thinking and the campus climate were ripe for protest action. Hindolo Trye was elected president of the Fourah Bay College (FBC) student union in 1976. The student motto “The Self” implied the importance of self-esteem and dignity, the awareness of the right to liberate oneself and the right of the collective self to initiate liberation. The students’ first direct confrontation with the APC came in 1977, when President Stevens was humiliated while delivering his speech at the annual university convocation ceremony.
28. The APC organised a counter-demonstration involving rarray man dem led by Kemoh Fadika. Supported by the armed Special Security Unit (SSD), these youths were brought in to flog, rape and brutalise students. The deployment of such a force foreshadowed events to come during the conflict, when youths were pitched against youths in an orgy of violence. The government’s backlash led to a nationwide demonstration by students in February 1977 following the arrest of their student leader Hindolo Trye. According to one participant:
“They sent thugs and members of the paramilitary to beat us up. They destroyed the campus, which led to a national uprising led by the students and sparked up by school children. It is what we called the “no college, no school” demonstration. It spread countrywide and became a national uprising, which lasted for several weeks.’”
29. The student protests, planned and led by radical students, received popular support and forced President Stevens to make certain concessions. A general election was called three months later. Violence by APC-sponsored rarray man dem resulted in a massive electoral victory for the APC. The hopes of the educated youths for an opening up of the political system were dashed.
30. The 1980s saw the emergence of well-organised radical groups and study clubs on university and college campuses, including the Green Book study club (promoting Ghaddafi’s ideas of revolutionary mass participation from Libya), the Pan African Union (PANAFU), which called for a popular movement, and the Socialist Club. Unlike other campus clubs, PANAFU brought both categories of youth together and was concerned with educating its members about apartheid in South Africa and neo-colonialism in Africa. PANAFU operated outside the campuses and had revolutionary “cells” in central and eastern Freetown.
31. Following a student demonstration in 1984, the Fourah Bay College campus was closed down for three months and upon resumption of classes, students had to sign an agreement for re-admission into the university. This repressive act helped “contain” students and brought relative calm to campus. Then, in 1985, Alie Kabba, a keen member of several radical clubs, was returned unopposed as president of FBC student union on a platform of collective self-advancement that he referred to as “we-ism”. Kabba’s student union executive made no secret of its intentions to put its radical leftist ideologies into practice once in power. The student leadership was constantly at loggerheads with the university authorities, who perceived Kabba as a subversive firebrand.
32. Events reached a climax at the end of the second term in 1985 when students refused to hand in their dormitory keys. The authorities accused them of planning to bring in Libyan mercenaries to oust the APC government. The paramilitary SSD, again called in to put the students in their place, used undue force in restraining the students and beating them into submission.
33. The SSD’s actions gave rise to a Freetown-wide demonstration. When the college reopened for the third semester in April 1985, forty-one students were declared ineligible to register, among them Alie Kabba. The student union protested against this decision. The campus demonstration spread to the city centre, where shops were looted and vehicles burnt down, apparently by unemployed youths who used the political demonstration of the students as a chance to wreak havoc and enrich themselves. Such opportunism, to many differing degrees, would become a constant feature of the conflict in the 1990s.
34. Alie Kabba and five other students were arrested and detained for two months, while three lecturers - Cleo Hancilles, Olu Gordon and Jimmy Kandeh, the original founders of PANAFU - were summarily dismissed from the university without a proper explanation or compensation up to the present day.
35. Some of the expelled students eventually found their way to Ghana and gained admission into the University of Legon. From Ghana, Alie Kabba made frequent visits to Guinea and Libya and was also a regular visitor to the People’s Bureau (as the Libyan embassy was called) in Accra. According to Olu Gordon:
“The idea of the RUF actually came from the expelled students from Fourah Bay College, especially Alie Kabba. And the specific reason why it was called a “united front” was because they had attempted to draw several organisations into their plan, including the organisations belonging to the Pan African Union (PANAFU).’”
36. Other witnesses, who were part of PANAFU, as well as some members of the RUF, have challenged the veracity of this testimony. Indeed, Gordon’s account is not entirely accurate, since Alie Kabba’s umbrella idea went by a different name altogether - the Popular Democratic Front, with the acronym PDF - and had a non-violent agenda for change at its heart. RUF members further pointed out that at the time the students were in Libya, no name had been chosen for the movement they joined. The name RUF was coined by others in Libya and had no direct connection to PANAFU, which had by that time become detached from the revolutionary project.
Divergence of Youths and the Spiral into Violent Rebellion
37. The exiled students raised the idea with PANAFU in Freetown of sending members of their revolutionary “cells” in the city to undertake training programmes in Libya. Four trainees nominated by PANAFU left for Libya during the rainy season of 1987. By the time they returned in 1988, leading members of PANAFU were no longer committed to the revolutionary project, which led to a split in the movement. One group went underground and carried on planning for new batches of trainees, recruiting mainly marginalised youths from the city.
38. PANAFU’s withdrawal from the revolutionary project starved it of ideologically educated youths and turned it into what one writer has described as:
“an individual enterprise… any man (no attempt was made to recruit women) who felt the urge to acquire insurgency training in the service of the “revolution” [could join up]… This inevitably opened the way for the recruitment of lumpens.”
39. Alie Kabba had assumed the position of co-ordinator of the “revolution” because of his pre-existing links with Libya. Many trainees were opposed to Kabba’s leadership, though. They objected to his personal refusal to undergo military training. They also accused him and his friends in Ghana of “sitting on millions of dollars” and benefiting from their recruitment for training in Libya. By the time Kabba left Ghana for Libya, most of the trainees had revolted. The bulk of them had returned to Sierra Leone by 1989 or 1990 and never assumed roles in the RUF movement, or indeed in any of the factions that fought in the conflict.
40. Divergence of paths and purposes occurred during the time of the training in Libya. Sierra Leone’s original student revolutionaries realised they had little in common with some of their countrymen who trained on the camps near Tripoli. Alie Kabba and Cleo Hancilles, the two ideological driving forces, grew wary of the direction their project had assumed and decided to opt out. Into the resultant leadership vacuum stepped Foday Sankoh, an aggrieved former soldier of the Sierra Leone Army who was an anomalous, older presence among the mostly youthful trainees. In Libya, Sankoh met Charles Taylor, the leader of the Liberian trainees on the camp. The two men forged a joint plan for insurgencies in their respective countries, starting in Liberia and moving into Sierra Leone. From that moment on, the course of the “revolution” - and with it the destiny of the sub-region’s youth - changed irreversibly. Sankoh and a handful of cohorts made their way to Liberia and joined an insurgency alongside Taylor’s NPFL. Among the youths involved, only Abu Kanu, a graduate of Njala University College, had reached a level of higher education comparable to the original PANAFU-led group of the mid-1980s.
41. Foday Sankoh began to assemble more fighters for his RUF rebellion in 1990. He used Charles Taylor’s NPFL bases and logistics to train Sierra Leoneans from diverse backgrounds who had been caught up in the turmoil in Liberia. Some were migrant workers whom Sankoh plucked from prisons in NPFL control areas; others were marginalised urban youths and common criminals. They became known as the RUF “vanguards”. In March and April 1991, the vanguards entered Sierra Leone with a troop of NPFL commandos who outnumbered them by about four to one. The Sierra Leone conflict had begun, with youths from unlikely and unsettled circumstances very much to the fore.
42. After the launch of the armed rebellion, most of the youths who joined the RUF, or who were compelled to join the organisation, were marginalised rural youths. Thus different categories of youths were involved at distinct stages of the conflict history of Sierra Leone. Educated youths were involved in the formulation of ideas for revolution and regime change, instigating the training in Libya. Marginalised urban youths were involved in the bulk of the military training and the launch of the insurgency. Thereafter the bulk of the growing manpower of the RUF consisted of marginalised rural youths.
43. Youths who joined the RUF could be further distinguished according to those who joined voluntarily and those who were forced to join. Some of the youths who joined willingly were won over by the simplistic rhetoric of the movement and believed that their involvement would help to reform “the system” that had oppressed them for so long. They were fed up with the APC and wanted a change of government. According to a resident of Pujehun District:
“We assembled at the barray and they addressed us… “We have come to make Sierra Leone a better Sierra Leone… Sierra Leoneans are suffering… education is expensive… we have come to get rid of the APC rule”… After their address, we were happy and prepared food for them… They appointed a town commander… Some of them left after they had finished eating.”
44. However, whether by choice or against their will, practically all the recruits soon adopted forms of behaviour that characterised marginalised youths - drug addiction and violence. Involvement in the rebellion itself became an alienating and marginalising process. RUF and NPFL atrocities in Sierra Leone soon drew contempt and opposition from the communities they were attempting to win over. Youths who had joined the insurgency became completely alienated from their own people, either due to acts in which they participated personally or due to their association with the outrages perpetrated by the movement as a whole.
45. The involvement of youth in the conflict became infinitely more complicated in April 1992, when a band of youths in the Sierra Leone Army overthrew the APC in a coup and formed a military junta known as the NPRC. In an attempt to counter the insurgents at the warfront, the NPRC engaged in mass recruitment of marginalised urban youths into the Army. By 1992, therefore, almost the entire combatant population consisted of youths, on both sides of the battle.
46. It should be recalled that by the eve of the conflict most urban youth had lost all hope. They had sunk into an abyss of unemployment and disillusionment. In this state, fighting in the war seemed a viable alternative. It presented a means through which youths could possibly break out of their despair and transform their lives. Many youth aligned themselves with one or more of the factions and swiftly achieved what they considered progress: they were able to accrue “wealth” and “status” that otherwise would have been unattainable.
47. More youths joined the war when they saw how “profitable” the experience had proved for others. Instead of enduring long periods of unemployment, they looted money and goods. Rather than possessing no stake in society, no property and no hope for the future, they became “commandos” who could acquire guns, sex, food and drugs at their will. The opportunity cost of going to war was very low. War empowered them. Inevitably, such youths began to perceive personal benefits in the continuation of conflict. Across all factions they became the most vocal constituency resisting efforts to end the war.
48. Some youths joined the armed factions in order to carry out personal vendettas. Statements from Pujehun District indicate that some of the earliest recruits into the RUF on its Southern Front were militiamen who had participated in the so-called Ndorgboryosoi rebellion against the APC government in the early 1980s, but ultimately failed. The Commission also heard testimonies from various parts of the country about youths who had been ostracised from their communities in the past, only to return during war to lead fighters into attacking their people, destroying their communities and humiliating their chiefs, elders and members of their traditional authorities.
The Re-convergence of Youths
49. In the late 1970s and 1980s, there had been a convergence of the educated and the uneducated marginalised youths. This convergence initiated discourse on modes and means of resistance, or violence, that could be targeted at the perpetrator of their marginalisation - the APC government. Their discourse took place in the potes, against the background of a non-conflict environment.
50. In contrast, the re-convergence of youths in the 1990s took place in the course of the actual rebellion against the state. On this occasion the youths who converged were mainly uneducated and marginalised youths who had joined the RUF or the Army. Those in the Army were largely marginalised urban youths, whilst the RUF constituted mainly rural youths. It became a convergence of all the groups from the pre-conflict period described earlier in this chapter: rarray man dem; upline savis man dem; san san boys; and njiahungbia ngornga.
51. Youths in both the Army and the RUF shared common traits of marginalisation. Most were uneducated, heavy users of drugs and had been uprooted or alienated from their pre-war communities. The rebellion and counter-insurgency seemed to promise marginalised youths that they could continue to engage in their old habits while fulfilling the ambitions that were denied to them by society.
52. Towards this end youths were encouraged by the leadership of the various military and political factions. The elites were profiteering from war in different ways from the youths, but they had a similar interest in its perpetuation. Youths in turn utilised violence not only to please their masters, but also to fulfil their yearnings for material acquisitions. In other words, the youths appropriated elite-sanctioned violence for subaltern ends.
53. Thus the eventual re-convergence of marginalised youths in the midst of the brutality that characterised the conflict was perhaps inevitable. Some commentators believe that the neologism “sobel” captures this convergence, because soldiers behaved like rebels, and vice versa. The reality is subtly different, however, since the union of the RUF with the AFRC regime that seized power in May 1997 came about through a decision of their respective leaderships, rather then any organic merger of the two combatant cadres on the ground. Only upon their convergence did the two factions really appreciate that they were practically identical in their composition.
54. The leaders of the Armed Forces Revolutionary Council (AFRC) came from subaltern social types (rarray man dem) who had become accustomed to deploying violence on behalf of the civilian political elites. In seizing power in their coup of 1997, these soldiers and civilians were carrying out violence towards their own ends and in doing so they made no distinction between public and private targets.
55. When the AFRC regime was joined by the RUF, itself composed mainly of marginalised rural youths, many ordinary people suspected that it reflected years of collaboration between the two factions at the battlefront. It was very common to hear Sierra Leoneans saying that they knew that the RUF and the Army were secret lovers and that they were now publicly celebrating the marriage. It was not so much a question of formalising an existing relationship, though, as of wondering why the two of them had failed to get together earlier.
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 16:07:25 03/12/07 ()
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I was in Asaba,Libya in 1988 and 1989. I had to flee because I knew it was not right for us to be trained to go and kill our fellow countrymen. i first sensed this wrong acts when we were taken from Asaba in the nights to raid towns in the cassamance/Senegaal borders. During my time, we received three hundred dollars per month for training and causing havoc in the cassamance/senegaal border. I was fortunate not to have hurt anyone. I left for Nouakchott, hiding underneath limestones, ferried by a tipper from Rosso to Nouakchott.
We all had a choice! My choice was to find a way of dealing with the situation not by brutal means but by al3rting authorities and try to better equipped myself to someday confront the daredevils who have plunged my country into abject penury. We even had Sierra leonens in Polisario, Western Sahara. The APC, to be frank created what we now see. You cannot subject your fellowman to total hopelessness.
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
From: Knice
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Date Posted: 16:00:10 03/11/07 ()
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I have been reading the memoir of S.B. Marah to research my series on Albert Margai. Regarding the emergence of the RUF, here is SB tells it:
"Student demonstrations against the APC on 29 January 1977 was the turning point. Within a day or two the president's Mr. Fixit, S.I. Koroma, had rallied the APC youth, high on cannabis and alcohol, they invaded the Fourah Bay College campus. While police stood by, laboratories, dormitories, and lecture rooms, were ransacked, staff and students were beaten, and at least a hundred were arrested and detained by the CID. By March - with students, schoolchildren, and workers demanding change - Siaka Stevens called a general election, and appointed several youthful ministers. But nothing really changed, and seven years later Fourah Bay College was still a hotbed of dissent. Following a student demonstration in January 1984, truckloads of APC hooligans, armed with cudgels, whips, and stones, again invaded the campus. Rooms were looted, students beaten, books destroyed. For some of the protesters, this was the last straw, and they travelled to Libya for training in guerilla warfare. But the revolutionary movement that became the RUF attracted not only dissident intellectuals, but also malcontents and opportunists. One critical error was allowing Foday Saybana Sankoh to lead the armed wing of the revolution".
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
From: Fact
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Date Posted: 11:47:41 03/13/07 ()
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SB Marah organized the Krubola massacre and countless acts of violence against the people of Koinadugu district when he was an APC minister. He was a thug and a criminal, very corrupt and violent. His last act of public violence before his death was when he slapped a policemen in broad daylight at Krootown road in Freetown.The case was in court. Your quoting him in this context shows you know little or nothing about Sierra Leone politics.
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 04:57:54 03/12/07 ()
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SB marrah was in a position of authority within the APC during this period KNICE does he address his own role in the suppression of student dissent?
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 12:05:11 03/12/07 ()
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Alieu,
I was laughing when I read Knice's mention of S.B. Marrah becuase I recall a story uncle Boyoh told us about an accounter he had with SB Marrah when I think he(Marrah)was a juniour minister for the SLPP. The were at a reception and SB Marrah was boasting that he had the best mechanized Farm in koinadugu. Uncle Boyoh rebuked Marrah by telling him that the poor farmers of voted for him to improve thier lot and not for him to enrich himself.
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
From: Knice
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Date Posted: 05:50:03 03/13/07 ()
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Yayah, this is interesting. Back in the Margai days (both Sir Milton and Sir Albert) it was not unusual for Members of Parliament and even Ministers to have farms back in their home districts. Some Ministers even had side businesses. Salia Jusu-Sheriff for instance had a thriving stationary business and many others had their law firms. As I have already documented, Sir Albert himself had a poultry farm in Aberdeen and a large vegetable garden in Lumley. These farms and enterprises unexpectedly served as demonstration enterprises for the larger public to great result.
Alas the APC and its obsession with corruption (I wonder why?) came in and stopped all these efforts cold, and propagandized them as "enriching self". It is our loss. This happens to be one of the areas of my greatest disagreement with the APC outlook namely, a total lack of faith in individuals.
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 12:38:01 03/13/07 ()
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Knice,
The point late uncle Boyoh was making was that Marrah should stop boasting about his farms and do more for the poor farmaers of Koinadugu. Also if you a cabinet member
you should not be running a business. Conflict of interests.
Previous posting I meant Mr. French.
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
From: Knice
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Date Posted: 06:09:04 03/12/07 ()
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Not really, but I can check again. But what do you think of his contention that APC persistence in responding to student protests with violence was what sent some students running to Libya for training in guerilla warfare and the formation of the RUF?
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 12:50:15 03/12/07 ()
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Knice,
How about SLPP Kande Bureh use of the Alikali Boys to attacks Krios going to church on Sundays in Freetown?
1956. Also how about SLPP Chief Alikali Modu using his Alikali Thugs to beat up APC MOBILIZERS in Port Loko uptil 1967?
How aboout the Banishment of Chief Tamba Mbriwah of Kono
District? By SLPP GOVT. How about the Loko Masama incident in which the SLPP planned ambush of APC supporters and members but you guys got ambushed?(1963?)
How about the arrest and imprisonment of Omar Bash-Taqi and others for sidition becaause he told an APC PARTY RALLY that the SLPP IS LILE A TORTOISE; you have to put a flame to its baksye for it to stick its head out amd move?(1961?)
Knice, Do you remember Mr. Frence of the SLPMB during Albert Regime? Do you know he was married to one of my aunties? Also, do you know that Chief Abu Baimba's wife was raised by my grandmother and grandauntie? Do you know that before Albert, Baimba and one other that they ate food all the time at my grandmother and grandauntie home? This was all before they left including Albert for England to study. Do you know that your relative Maigore Kallon threatened my uncle Boyoh when he kept opposing the introduction of Televison in Sierra Leone because he argued that the money could be better spent on expanding the transmitting power of the SLBS so that it signals could reach all over the country. Maigore Kallon took him aside and whispered to him that they know that he was not a Sierra Leonean. I guuess Maigore coming from Kailahun did not know that were deep SLPP from Bonthe , Moyamba and Pujehun. Look here man every one has messed up Sierra leone. Let us just make sure from now on people like you and me insist that who ever rule Sierra Leone do so right and not over look wrongs because they are our relatives. The reason Albert Margai and Dr. Margai were such respectful individuals was they knew and bowed to the National Interest. In 1967 Albert make his only mistake when he listened to the advice of Bethan MaCauley. After July 28, 2007 it would not be the Sole responsibility of Ernest Bai Koroma and the APC to do the right things in Sierra Leone but it is also the duty and responsibility of people like you(Knice,the Fanusie)who have also the right to move Sierra Leone in the right direction.
Yaya Fanusie-with Deep Roots in SLPP but now an APC MEMBER.
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
From: Knice
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Date Posted: 07:57:05 03/13/07 ()
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Yayah, this is a mouthful. I am not familiar with any of those cases except the banishment of Chief Brewah, and we can get into that as you wish. But I know Maigore Kallon very well, and I can assure you that whatever your roots are in especially Pujehun and Bonthe, Maigore Kallon's roots in those places are much, much, deeper. Furthermore I categorically reject your claim that Maigore Kallon ever told your uncle or anyone else, as an aside, in a whisper, or loud-out, that s/he was not Sierra Leonean. Such narrow mindedness is totally out of character for Maigore Kallon.
Forgive me if I must rely on S.B. Marah again for a window on Maigore Kallon's character. When Sir Albert succeeded Sir Milton who died in April 1964, he appointed S.B. Marah Government Whip and Junior Minister to Maigore Kallon in the Ministry of Interior. Here is what SB says about Maigore Kallon:
"When I joined Maigore Kallon's ministry I travelled even further afield. We were both young, and almost every weekend we would go to the provinces to meet paramount and section chiefs. Maigore was very democratic. I would see him paying school fees for boys from the north, even though he was an easterner".
Let me add a rejoinder to that quotation. Those weekend visits to the provinces by the Minister and Junior Minster of the Interior were an inetegral part of Sir Albert's strategy to win the support of chiefs. Remember that they had been very loyal to Sir Milton. Compare Sir Albert's approach to that of the APC later when they had to deal with chiefs who remained loyal to the SLPP.
Yayah, you forget that Kailahun abuts Guinea and as a result there are many children of Kailahun including Tejan Kabbah himself, who were susceptible to denial as Sierra Leoneans. Maigore was a champion for them and most were very strong Maigore Kallon supporters. I am really trying to get us off the wild accusations and speculations onto factually based discussions where I am confident we can learn to live and let live even if we cannot agree. I am also hoping that we can refrain from making it personal with wild speculations against each other and our relatives. I don't care that you are APC; in fact I am very happy that you are. But I will not remain silent when you sweep the APC record under a debris of wild accusations against thers.
Finally, let me wish you the best, whatever you decide to do with your life now, in between, and after July 28, 2007. But please DON'T EVER dare to tell me what to do with mine. Your agenda is not necessary my agenda. Your ideas on how best to serve Sierra Leone are not necessarily mine. What you think are important may not be important to me. Mind your business and I will mind mine. Live and let live is the only way to good relations among men. Besides living in country that is run by the APC is not my idea of the good life.
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 13:01:04 03/13/07 ()
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Knice,
I do not think you understood my advice to you about your role and mine after July 28, 2007. I think you should have asked me to clarify if you felt I was telling you what to do.
The problem of Sierra Leone and Africa in general is a common politica value that only the govt has the duty to
ensured that the right/good things are done. Only the trivial majority think that way. The vital few do not think that way. I was assumed you were a member of the vital few. I have made my public position on many forums that many supporters of the SLPP are slow in grasping conceptual matters.
I do not believe that Kabbah has the sole responsibilty to do the right things it is my responsibility to make sure he does the right things. And I will have the same position Come August when Ernest Bai Koroma is president. I will challenge whenever he takes the wrong step. I did against Albert, Shaki, Momoh, Strasser, Bio, and AFRC.
Give me public records to show that you oppose Albert or Kabbah?
Look here man1 Alieu is my nephew and we both belong to the APC. We attack each other over basic public policy.
You know why we do. Because our socialization created the mindset where we do not care about personal relations when it comes to the public good. When it comes to public issues kinship goes through the window.
It you do not think you have the same right as President Ernest BAi Koroma to make things good in Sierra Leonean then I would suggest you shut up.
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 15:57:15 03/11/07 ()
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25. The first group of Sierra Leoneans to take up theoffer of commando training, numbering four in total, were effectively those whoexpressed the highest degree of readiness or eagerness. Thus, among themwas a man named Victor Idowu Ebiyemi Reider, from Freetown, and another namedRashid Mansaray, a teenage revolutionary with a much-respected commitment tothe cause and intellectual energy. Their group, which travelled to Libyain August 1987 and underwent training at the Benghazi base, was intended tobecome the core of a larger-scale programme, whereby those who had been trainedwould return to Sierra Leone and recruit others to follow in their footsteps.
26. While both Reider and Mansaray did come back tothe country after their training and participated in the motivation of furtherPANAFU cells, their respective influences on the origins and resultantcharacter of the Revolutionary United Front of Sierra Leone (RUF) were notentirely congruous. Mansaray would become the RUF’s First BattalionCommander and continue to inspire those around him with the sincerity andpassion of his revolutionary beliefs until he himself fell victim to thedangers of a rebel war. Reider had only one further claim, albeit withhindsight a significant one, to have shaped the course of the RUF conflict: hewas responsible for the effective ‘recruitment’ of Foday Saybana Sankoh, whosubsequently elevated himself to the leadership of what became known as theRevolutionary United Front of Sierra Leone, or RUF.
27. Three other persons in a cell under Reider’sauspices travelled out of Freetown along with Sankoh in April 1988; thedistinguishing factor in their case was that Reider did not tell them inadvance about the nature of what awaited them at the end of theirjourney. Each of Sankoh’s travelling companions thought he was heading toundergo ‘Advanced Capacity Building in Revolutionary Ideology’ and told,variously, that he would be taken to an institution such as the University ofNigeria or the Al-Fattah University in Tripoli to be further lectured andinspired. This invitation came aptly to represent the kind of deceit and mismanagement of human resources that ultimately invoked a vacuum inrevolutionary leadership and a reversion towards militarism. Thenarrative of those who accepted their invitations in good faith, but insteadunderwent guerrilla training in Libya, resonates far more widely when examinedunder the lens of the subsequent military and political history of the conflictin Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
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Date Posted: 15:18:30 03/11/07 ()
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President Kabbah is saying something different. At a meeting in Makeni, he said that the North should apologize to the rest of the country because Foday Sankoh, the RUF Leader has a northern name and is said to have hailed from the North. Was this a deliberate attempt to create a regional divide and fan ethnic animosity, or hide the emerging evidence about the real support base for the RUF?
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 15:49:08 03/11/07 ()
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Kroobay Mom I also heard and took testimony from a witness highly placed who testified that in order to be spare instant deth or dismemberment at the hands of the RUF, one had to eiher tie a palm frond on his wrist or in wear something green. Funnily it was the same with the kamajors who would spare anyone with a palm frond tied around their worst and or wearing something green and all of these symbols happen to be SLPP symbols.
Subject: Re: The SLPP connection to the RUF
From: kroobaymom
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Date Posted: 16:27:59 03/11/07 ()
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Victor Reider of the SLPP!!!! No wonder he is so much against the implementation of the the TRC recommendations.
Victor, the SLPP will not save you. 10, 15, 20 years down the line you will have to explain your role in this savagery. The nazis are still been hunted for crimes against humanity. The issue is not why you should be arrested, the issue is when.
Subject: For KLA an interesting Read on the AU
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 14:35:08 03/11/07 ()
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http://www.worldmun.org/MUNBase2007/files/downloads/guides/AUGuideA.pdf
Subject: Re: For KLA an interesting Read on the AU
From: KLA
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Date Posted: 11:39:46 03/12/07 ()
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Thanks Alieu,
The problems of the AU are primarily financial. Once again the Legacy of a EDWARD BYDEN lives on.
TSTM
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Subject: TOP KAMAJORS ABSENT AT FUNERAL
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Date Posted: 13:00:00 03/11/07 ()
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Top Gov't functionaries and top Kamajor members failed to attend Norman's funeral. According to Richard Lagao's report on Focua on Africa, the Norman family was shocked when they realised that all of the top brass of the kamajprs were absent from the funeral. The top brass complained that they will not show up since the funeral has been politiciesd. Also, top gov't functionaries never showed up, since according to them, they decided to stay away since the family advised every politician not to attend Norman's funeral.
Norman's family was diasaapointed that top SLPP functonaries did not show up(although a few SLPP loyalists were their).Is this an idication that the press reease was not from the family but from Sam Foray's indiana bedroom? Remember Foray issued a press release in which he advised the gov't to stay aay from the funeral.
Subject: Re: TOP KAMAJORS ABSENT AT FUNERAL
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Date Posted: 17:33:56 03/11/07 ()
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Things are comming out to be mear porpaganda Normans goast will hunt PMDC and Sam Foray for creating all these problem.Its a pity.
Subject: Looks like U.S. Govt. about to turn the screws on NPRC
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Date Posted: 09:27:50 03/11/07 ()
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The message from the Sam Komba Kambo and Tom Nyuma arrests in America is that if you commit atrocities in Sierra Leone or worked with a government that did and you run to America to hide, Uncle Sam will get you.
What will haunt the NPRC and cause their deportation from America is their execution of Bambay Kamara, Salami Coker, Yaya Kanu , Saspo-the palm wine tapper-kawuta Dumbuya and others.
Subject: Should Sam Kambo be deported?
From: SHEK SESAY AKA SA KONDASY
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Date Posted: 08:42:46 03/11/07 ()
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Should Sam Kambo be deported?
Government says he was part of brutal coup; friend, co-workers rally around LCRA employee and father of four who left African home in 1994.
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By John Kelso and Andrea Ball
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Sunday, March 11, 2007
When Sam Kambo applied for a visa before entering the United States in 1994, the U.S. government knew that he was a leader of a group that had overthrown the government in his native Sierra Leone in a 1992 coup.
Kambo received his diplomatic visa, settled in Austin and earned bachelor's and master's degrees at the University of Texas. He started a family here and landed a job at the Lower Colorado River Authority.
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Now, 13 years after he left Africa, Kambo is in jail in San Antonio, and the U.S. government is trying to send him back to Sierra Leone, accusing him of overstaying his work visa.
The government has refused to release him on bail since he was jailed in October, citing allegations of atrocities committed by the National Provisional Ruling Council government, which he helped lead in Sierra Leone, such as executing prisoners and publicly displaying the heads of slain rebels. In court documents, the government says Kambo's "presence in the United States is an affront to civilized society."
But there is no claim that Kambo had a direct, personal role in the abuses. Nor is there any explanation for why the U.S. stance on his past has changed so drastically since it let him into the country.
People in Austin who know Kambo say the guy Homeland Security is describing is not the Sam Kambo they have grown to love and respect, and they have rallied around Kambo and his family.
"If you knew the guy, you'd be a huge supporter," LCRA spokesman Robert Cullick said. "We've turned back flips over here to help him and his family. His fellow employees here have had taco sales and bake sales and created a fund at the credit union and such."
In their eyes, Kambo is the kind of immigrant you'd think this country would want: a college honors graduate, a loving father, a homeowner, a hard worker lauded by his bosses.
In a letter from jail, Kambo said he became disillusioned with the NPRC and resigned from it when he came to the United States in 1994. Media reports from Sierra Leone have suggested that Kambo left amid allegations that he had siphoned money that was supposed to be used to buy arms, charges that Kambo said Friday were "a lot of wild speculation."
Kambo, 38, went to the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement office in San Antonio on Oct. 27 for what he thought would be a hearing to decide whether he could become a permanent U.S. resident.
Instead, he was arrested, and he's been locked up in the GEO Group private detention facility in San Antonio since.
His deportation hearing is scheduled for April 12.
Kambo's San Antonio lawyer, Simon Azar-Farr, says Kambo's situation is the kind of thing that has happened to immigrants regularly since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, and he questions why the government is suddenly trying to deport his client.
"Mr. Kambo has never covered up or denied his participation in the coup, nor his membership in the NPRC," his lawyer said in court documents. "Rather, knowing full well his position in the NPRC, the United States granted Mr. Kambo a diplomatic visa in 1993, a student visa in 1996, a workers visa in 1998 and an extension of that visa in 2002."
The government won't say much about the case, except that Kambo is in Immigration and Customs Enforcement custody "pending the outcome of his immigration case," according to an e-mail from agency spokeswoman Nina Pruneda.
In coup's inner circle
A document from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security says Kambo "was one of eight soldiers in the inner circle of the National Provisional Ruling Council (NPRC), the military junta that seized power from President Joseph Momoh in an April 1992 coup."
The document also contends that the NPRC "took severe actions against rebels; public humiliation, summary execution of prisoners, and displays of rebel heads (and other body parts) were not uncommon."
None of the documents accuse Kambo specifically of committing atrocities.
But in its letter denying Kambo's application for citizenship, a U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services official wrote: "You were a high-ranking officer in this organization which is well known for its acts of torture and extra-judicial killings, and in light of your leadership role in this organization, you are fully responsible for such actions."
Corinne Dufka, a senior researcher for Human Rights Watch in West Africa, wrote in an e-mail that the NPRC did "overthrow the largely corrupt government of APC President Joseph Momoh. However, they were also accused of serious abuses themselves. . . . The soldiers were undisciplined, ineffective and colluded with the rebels to loot, rob and extort from the population."
Dufka added that in December 1992, a few months after the coup, the NPRC executed several soldiers who were suspected of planning their own coup.
Guilt by association?
From jail last week, Kambo said that there were executions but that he had no part in them.
Kambo says they were ordered by the head of the NPRC, Valentine Strasser, "because we had an ongoing war, and the government that we overthrew was plotting to come back."
He said his group overthrew the government because it wasn't giving the army adequate weapons to fight rebels from neighboring Liberia.
"The government was supplying us with weapons that would not fire," he said. "This is what led to the coup."
And of the undisciplined soldiers who allegedly looted and robbed?
That was done by rebels, not NPRC members, Kambo said. "Rebels were able to capture soldiers' uniforms. This is even happening in Iraq."
Kambo calls the charges against him guilt by association. He says the reports of him siphoning money appeared in publications influenced by politicians trying to discredit the military regime he helped lead: If he had all that money, why was he working here?
Carl Schieren, an expert on Africa and manager of a U.N. program that provided U.S. college scholarships to NPRC military leaders, including Kambo, thinks Homeland Security is unfairly targeting Kambo.
He said the NPRC fought a long war with a rebel chief named Foday Sankoh, whose troops drugged children to turn them into soldiers and cut off hands and ears as a common tactic. Because of its lengthy war with rebel bands, the country became the poster child for mutilation and brutality.
In retaliation, "I think the NPRC did some things that were not very nice," Schieren said.
But Kambo?
"I personally handled the (U.N. scholarship) program of Mr. Kambo," Schieren wrote in a letter. "He was one of the most impressive students I dealt with over 30 years working with students from Africa and the Middle East. . . . He was a modest, soft-spoken young man, with a generous sense of humor."
From studies to work
Kambo began studying at UT under a diplomatic form of visa, then later applied for and received a student visa. After finishing his studies, he got a work visa for skilled professions and landed a job at a small computer chip company in Austin.
About 2 1/2 years ago, Kambo got a job with the LCRA, working in the wholesale power services division, trading in natural gas futures and options and doing analytical work. The LCRA helped find an immigration attorney to defend him.
"He's been nothing but a model employee," said his boss, Daniel Kuehn. "Very dedicated. Great family guy. Not afraid of hard work. Great initiative, all those things. Can't say enough good things about my experience with him."
Kambo and his wife, Hanaan, have four children who were born in the United States.
In 2001, Kambo applied for permanent U.S. residency.
His attorney, Azar-Farr, says the procedure usually takes three to five months. But in Kambo's case, it stretched out for five years. Finally, in October, Kambo was called in for an interview for a green card.
He had no idea what was coming.
"Total shock: When I was arrested, I was in shock," Kambo recalled. "Never in my wildest dream would I be arrested."
His wife, who went with him that day, was equally stunned.
"They invited both of us," Hanaan said. "We told the children, 'If they tell us no, we'll have to pack up and go back to Africa.' That was the worst-case scenario."
Hanaan was waiting in the hall when the Austin attorney who had gone with them to the hearing came out and asked her whether she could drive.
"I said, 'Why?' and he said, 'Your husband has been arrested.' " Hanaan said.
The legal wrangling has continued since.
In November, an immigration judge ruled that Kambo should be released on $12,500 bail. But the U.S. Department of Homeland Security filed an emergency stay on the judge's order.
On Jan. 26, after the Board of Immigration Appeals also decided that Kambo should be released on bail, Homeland Security got another stay to block his release.
"A case like this strikes me as an ugly exhibition of raw power," Azar-Farr said. "He has already had an immigration judge and a board order his release, and the government has repeatedly failed to comply with those orders."
Bail-less breadwinner
Kambo's jailing has caused emotional and financial hardships for him, his wife and children, who are scraping by with the help of friends at the LCRA and at the school that two of the children attend.
"It's been very tough, very tough," Kambo said. "But the support I'm hearing helps out a lot."
"We've never known him as anything but a positive and understanding dad," said Shelly Hohmann, principal of Caraway Elementary in the Round Rock district, where Kambo's 9-year-old girls, Shaina and Hannah, attend school.
Hohmann says the teachers there have chipped in to help the Kambos pay their bills.
"They have basically sustained our life, because we didn't have any savings," said Hanaan, a stay-at-home mom and Sierra Leone native. "My husband has this huge school loan. Thank God for all these people."
Every other week on a Saturday or a Sunday, Hanaan and the children travel from Austin to San Antonio to visit Kambo.
Hanaan says it's always emotionally wrenching: "There is no contact. There is this glass barrier. My son (Seth, 4) keeps asking, why can't he touch his dad?"
Hanaan can't understand why the government is holding her husband without bail.
"That is what's killing us; they say he's a flight risk," Hanaan said. "But where is he going to go? He has a home here; his children are here. He isn't going to leave us."
Hanaan says her husband is growing depressed in prison.
"It's prayer that's keeping him strong," she said.
If her husband is deported, she and the family will go back to Sierra Leone with him, she says. She worries that if they are forced to return, members of the former government that her husband helped overthrow will retaliate against them.
Meanwhile, some of Kambo's friends and colleagues have grown distrustful of the U.S. government.
"It's a little bit frustrating that in America, everybody gets due process, but since 9/11, I guess that's not the case," said Kuehn, Kambo's boss. "And you don't realize this until you know somebody who is in this pickle."
jkelso@statesman.com; 445-3606
Subject: CASE OF MANSLAUGHTER AGAINST PERSONEL THAT ARRESTED NORMAN
From: STEPHEN SWARAY
To: All
Date Posted: 07:57:48 03/11/07 ()
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From all informations gathered during the process of arresting the late NORMAN,i am made to comprehend that he was violently thrown into the police van;subsequently substaining an irrevasable damage to his hip.
I am sure there is a limitation to the level of force used to arrest individuals.
Are there any legally minded sierra leoneans to challenge the special court regarding the above?
If we are in the process of establishing a democratic enviroment in Sierra Leone,then the concept of human rights and social justics should be at the core of the process.
Subject: Re: CASE OF MANSLAUGHTER AGAINST PERSONEL THAT ARRESTED NORMAN
From: kroobaymom
To: All
Date Posted: 14:33:01 03/11/07 ()
Email Address: kroobaymom@yahoo.com
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Yes there is a level of caution that should be used to secure an arrest. Whether any of the legal luminaries in Sierra Leone has the guts to challenge the authority of the special court is yet to be seen. That notwithstanding, we should not forget that to date, the Sierra Leone courts have failed to take concrete steps to prosecute those who perpetrated hate crimes against civil society on kabbah's return from exile.
Here we are, complaining about Hinga Norman being violently thrown into a police van from which he sustained his hip injuries. What would the families of Alhaji Musa Kabia, Sheik Mostaba and Sakoma say for the lynching and public burning of their children by the kamajors? The Truth and Reconciliation Commission found that the SLPP Government was aware of the human rights violations and abuses carried out by the CDF, through the role of its Deputy Defence Minister, Chief Sam Hinga Norman, who served as CDF National Co ordinator, and through members ofthe CDF War Council at Base Zero.
The establishment of human rights and social justice in Sierra Leone should start with the implementation of the recommendations of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. Our legal system should be just and fair and we should not place barriers to accountability for atrocities by anyone, no matter his status. I sympathise with the Norman family and so too with the many others who lost loved ones due to human rights abuses. Let us do the right thing for the love of country.
Subject: Re: CASE OF MANSLAUGHTER AGAINST PERSONEL THAT ARRESTED NORMAN
From: HindoiWanapornor {double masculinity}
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Date Posted: 08:34:12 03/11/07 ()
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Your rambling sounds more like satire than legal-mindedness. There are times when it's better to shut up than talk for the sake of it. Accepted, Western political systems have taught--or revealed to us--that public figures are fair game. In that regard, Hinga Norman can be discussed by any Sierra Leonean. But yours sounds like a poorly-crafted joke that is neither tastetful nor creative. I can hear you say he is another SLPP diehard. No! Far from it. I am NOT an SLPP man. I simply abhor empty minds that treat everyone else to the hollowness they have for brains. When bigger destroyers of Sierra Leone die, we are asked to weep and respect the dead. Fine! When the dead are from the "wrong" tribe, empty heads cascading with tribal hate move into festive gear, taking leave of every trace of self-respect. The only thing I have appreciated about tribal hate is the fact that it has revealed how much WE can be hated for no reason order we are WE. Fine. At least WE know.
Subject: Re: CASE OF MANSLAUGHTER AGAINST PERSONEL THAT ARRESTED NORMAN
From: HINDOLUI (SINGLE MASCULINITY)
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Date Posted: 10:31:17 03/11/07 ()
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HindoiWanapornor {double masculinity
YOU PROBABLY HAVE A SMALL PENIS. DOUBLE MASCULINITY MY ASS
Subject: Re: CASE OF MANSLAUGHTER AGAINST PERSONEL THAT ARRESTED NORMAN
From: HindoiWanapornor{Double Masculinity}
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Date Posted: 10:43:38 03/11/07 ()
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Funny indeed. Names have meanings. Your name is probably meaningless. This ain't 'bout sex, bro. The name carries the same meaning in two languages. Nothing more, nothingless. It's amazing that your definition of masculinity has to do with having a penis and a penis only. Wrong, me man.
Subject: Re: CASE OF MANSLAUGHTER AGAINST PERSONEL THAT ARRESTED NORMAN
From: hindo lui (man Pekin)
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Date Posted: 11:14:58 03/11/07 ()
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you sill have a small penis
Subject: Re: CASE OF MANSLAUGHTER AGAINST PERSONEL THAT ARRESTED NORMAN
From: HindoiWanapornor
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Date Posted: 12:34:50 03/11/07 ()
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Bra, you nar case. Ar lek am so, bra. Wance me gial fren dem nor komplain, nar me dat. Na
Subject: Re: CASE OF MANSLAUGHTER AGAINST PERSONEL THAT ARRESTED NORMAN
From: STEPHEN SWARAY
To: All
Date Posted: 10:18:33 03/11/07 ()
Email Address: swaray2@aol.com
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DOUBLE MASCULINITY,
It is rather unfortunate that you totally missed the moral behind my topic of discussion.There was nothing mentioned about TRIBAL OR SLPP AFFINITIES.Do you want me to understand that by allmeans you were waiting for an opportunity to pour out your preset ideas regarding SLPP/NORMAN?I am sure you can,with an open dimensional approach reconsider your presentation.
Alternatively,is it a case of a lunartic that must talk;because wise people do because they want to contribute.
Subject: Re: CASE OF MANSLAUGHTER AGAINST PERSONEL THAT ARRESTED NORMAN
From: kroobaymom
To: All
Date Posted: 15:11:22 03/11/07 ()
Email Address: kroobaymom@yahoo.com
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Yes there is a level of caution that should be used to secure an arrest. Whether any of the legal luminaries in Sierra Leone has the guts to challenge the authority of the special court is yet to be seen. That notwithstanding, we should not forget that to date, the Sierra Leone courts have failed to take concrete steps to prosecute those who perpetrated hate crimes against civil society on kabbah's return from exile.
Here we are, complaining about Hinga Norman being violently thrown into a police van from which he sustained his hip injuries. What would the families of Alhaji Musa Kabia, Sheik Mostaba and Sakoma say for the lynching and public burning of their children by the kamajors? The Truth and Reconciliation Commission found that the SLPP Government was aware of the human rights violations and abuses carried out by the CDF, through the role of its Deputy Defence Minister, Chief Sam Hinga Norman, who served as CDF National Co ordinator, and through members ofthe CDF War Council at Base Zero.
The establishment of human rights and social justice in Sierra Leone should start with the implementation of the recommendations of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. Our legal system should be just and fair and we should not place barriers to accountability for atrocities by anyone, no matter his status. I sympathise with the Norman family and so too with the many others who lost loved ones due to human rights abuses. Let us do the right thing for the love of country.
Subject: Note
From: mohm j
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Date Posted: 04:44:13 03/11/07 ()
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The Patriotic Vanguard, Sierra Leone News Portal|
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Letter to editor
A letter to Mohamed Jalloh (Mohm J).
- Sunday 11 March 2007.
Mohamed,
Your thoughts about Suma is the most extraordinary memorial that I have ever read. The details of his actions reveal a character that is difficult to appreciate. This reads like a primer that should be assigned to all up and coming officials in both developing and developed economies. I commend you for your thoughtfulness about a friend and colleague.
No, I do not believe that I ever had the opportunity to meet Suma. I had heard you talk about him and was impressed that unlike the usual bureaucrat he was a person of integrity. I would have liked to have known him.
Bill
Editor’s note:
The writer, Bill Lefes, is a retired American diplomat who once served in Sierra Leone in the early 1980s. He has extensive experience dealing with numerous African countries during his State Dept. career.
Subject: RESPONSE TO "A TRIBUTE TO MUSA KHALIL SUMA (1942- 2007)"
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 06:40:28 03/11/07 ()
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Thank you for posting Bill Lefes's published letter. It represents one of a great many responses that I have received since my tribute to the late Mr. Musa K. Suma was published last week. In the usual interest of empowering fellow serious-minded S/Leoneans by sharing with them information relevant to the development of our country, I present, courtesy of SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, below one of the many such responses I have received within the past few days. The name of my correspondent has been redacted for reasons of privacy.
--- In SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, "MohmJ@...> wrote on March 10, 2007:
>
In a message dated 3/7/2007 6:30:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, [Name Redacted]@...writes:
Karande,
What a tribute! I wish this had been written in his honor rather than to his memory. Musa Suma was indeed an unsung hero. You made your Karamor proud. May Allah Be with Him.
[Name Redacted]:
Thank you for your commendation. You are right that the late Mr. Suma was an unsung hero -- but only among those S/Leoneans who were not aware of his accomplishments at SLPMB. However, among the international cocoa and coffee circles, Mr. Suma was widely reargued as a force to be reckoned with, both for his knowledge of the commodity markets and for his oratory.
For example, in 1980 or 1981, Mr. Suma was accorded the singular honor of giving the keynote address at the annual International Cocoa Association (ICCO) meeting held in London. The meeting brought together representatives of all the major producing and consuming countries in the world which were members of the ICCO.
That honor granted to a producer country was remarkable enough. It was even more so, given the fact that it had been given to the Managing Director of a very small producer country like SL (Ivory Coast and Ghana were (and still are) the two biggest cocoa producers in the world). As narrated to me by a jubilant Mr. Suma upon his return to SL from delivering his keynote address, he received multiple standing ovations, with the biggest one applauding a particular paragraph in his speech that I remember so well (since he had given me the honor of writing it):
"Distinguished ladies and gentlemen, as I stand before you today, I am aware that, the greater the fluctuations in the price of cocoa, the greater is the profit that traders in developed countries stand to make in the commodity market. However, for producing countries, wild fluctuations in the price of cocoa represent a luxury fraught with attendant risks to the very livelihood of millions of our poor farmers. Therefore, in the interest of the most vulnerable segment of the industry upon which we all depend for our livelihood, we would prefer stability in the markets to wild fluctuations."
When he delivered those lines, Mr. Suma told me with obvious pride, there was not a single person remaining seated, as all present had erupted in sustained applause. That year, Mr. Suma put SLPMB, and by extension, SL on the world cocoa map, despite our country's tiny production. It was a proud moment for SL and one of great honor for the late Mr. Suma, in particular.
Best regards,
Moh'm
--- In SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, [Name Redacted]@... wrote:
>
> Karande,
> What a tribute! I wish this had been written in his honor rather than to his memory. Musa Suma was indeed an unsung hero. You made your Karamor proud.
>
> May Allah Be with Him.
>
> [Name Redacted]
> Lithonia GA.
>
> The hottest places in hell, are reserved for those who, in great moral crisis maintain their neutrality-Dante
>
Subject: Pele the SCISSORS,Petty the MALOWAH an Diego?The hand of GOD
From: DOUBLE TROUBLE
To: All
Date Posted: 05:54:03 03/11/07 ()
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A very humorous and revealing story is told about a group of white people
who were fed up with African Americans, so they joined together and wished themselves away.
They passed through a deep dark tunnel and emerged in sort of a twilight
zone where there is an America without black people.
At first these white people breathed a sigh of relief.
At last, they said, No more crime, drugs, violence and welfare.
All of the blacks have gone! Then suddenly, reality set in. The
"NEW AMERICA" is not America at all-only a barren land.
1. There are very few crops that have flourished because
the nation was built on a slave-supported system.
2. There are no cities with tall skyscrapers because Alexander Mils,
a black man, invented the elevator, and without it, one finds great
difficulty reaching higher floors.
3. There are few if any cars because Richard Spikes, a black man,
invented the automatic gearshift, Joseph Gambol, also black, invented
the Super Charge System for Internal Combustion Engines, and Garrett
A. Morgan, a black man, invented the traffic signals.
4. Furthermore, one could not use the rapid transit system because
its procurer was the electric trolley, which was invented by another
black man, Albert R. Robinson.
5. Even if there were streets on which cars and a rapid transit system
could operate, they were cluttered with paper because an African
American, Charles Brooks, invented the street sweeper.
6. There were few if any newspapers, magazines and books because
John Love invented the pencil sharpener, William Purveys invented
the fountain pen, and Lee Barrage invented the Type Writing Machine
and W. A. Love invented the Advanced Printing Press. They were all,
you guessed it, Black.
7. Even if Americans could write their letters, articles and books, they
would not have been transported by mail because William Barry invented
the Postmarking and Canceling Machine, William Purveys invented the
Hand Stamp and Philip Downing invented the Letter Drop.
8. The lawns were brown and wilted because Joseph Smith invented the
Lawn Sprinkler and John Burr the Lawn Mower.
9. When they entered their homes, they found them to be poorly ventilated
and poorly heated. You see, Frederick Jones invented the Air Conditioner
and Alice Parker the Heating Furnace. Their homes were also dim. But of
course, Lewis Lattimer later invented the Electric Lamp, Michael Harvey
invented the lantern and Granville T. Woods invented the Automatic Cut
off Switch.
Their homes were also filthy because Thomas W. Steward invented the
Mop & Lloyd P. Ray the Dust Pan.
10. Their children met them at the door-barefooted, shabby, motley and
unkempt. But what could one expect? Jan E. Matzelinger invented the
Shoe Lasting Machine, Walter Sammons! invented the Comb, Sarah
Boone invented the Ironing Board and George T. Samon invented the
Clothes Dryer.
11. Finally, they were resigned to at least have dinner amidst all of this
turmoil. But here again, the food had spoiled because another Black Man,
John Standard invented the refrigerator.
Now, isn't that something? What would this country be like without the
contributions of Blacks, as African-Americans?
Martin Luther King, Jr. said, "by the time we leave for work, Americans
have depended on the inventions from the minds of Blacks."
Black history includes more than just slavery, Frederick Douglass,
Martin Luther King, Jr., Malcolm X, and Marcus Garvey & W.E.B. Dubois.
PLEASE SHARE, ABUNDANTLY
Subject: Re: Note
From: X
To: All
Date Posted: 04:51:36 03/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Duh!!!!
Subject: KABA'S LAST STANCE - PEACE BUILDING
From: Sa Konday
To: All
Date Posted: 03:52:11 03/11/07 ()
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Congratulations to president Ahmed Tejan Kaba for having led Sierra Leone as a model of maintaining peace.
This was certified by the United Nations.
That does not mean that we are going to believe what the United Nation is saying.
The United Nations during the past years were faced with problems with undermined their credibility.
So we are investigating this statement.
If it is true after our investigations, then HURRAY to president Kaba.
It must be also noted that Tejan Kaba will not have lower scores all over his presidency.
Their are areas were he scored good marks such as the report by the United Nations. Again, we are verifying the report.
He still has more to do, but unfortunately time is over.
The referee blows his whistle.
PEEP, PEEP, PEEP, PEE.....EEE....EEEP!!
Game over.
Score 0 - 0.
Subject: BRA YAYA FANUSIE
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 19:37:32 03/10/07 ()
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Bra Yaya, It looks like you have taken the war path, and that every fiber in you is in a perfect fighting trim. Over the past 24 hours, you have posted enough "butt-kicking" messages to make you appear like the kind of man Temne people will refer to as "O-foi Mintaa." This ROUGHLY translates "Don't Mess With Him/Her." Bra, take bodi light.
On yet another light note, please let me ask you a question. Are you a Sierra Leonean of Senegalese descent? West African history reveals the Fanisies as Senegalese of Malian origin. Of course, countless Sub-Saharan citizens are of Malian descent without even knowing it.
OK Bra. Yor ki tegbeh {take am eazy} in Temne, if I am not mixing my Temne grammar up.
BRA ENVIABLE.
Subject: Re: BRA YAYA FANUSIE
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 02:32:54 03/11/07 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
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Message:
Bra Envialble,
Just made brief home stop to eat something and I will rush out again. Just came from a Guinean Ballet event in oakland and I was planning to Kenyan Event in Berkeley where a friend from Kenya band was performing. Sila and the AfroFunk Experience. Check ihis website www.silaband.com. Next I am going to go to the Miss Liberian Pageant a schorlarship fundraiser then I will have to drop by the Ghanaian Ind Day Celebrations. I will not make it to Fremont to attend a Fundraising event for Mathew Timbo. Alieu will attend that one.
The name Fanusie is NIgerian. My maternal side hailed from senegal and Guinea. My Sierra Leone roots are Bonthe Island, Pujehun and MOyamba. I grew up in Freetown.
My great grandmother was the founder of the Jollof Community in Sierra Leone. She provided financial assistance to the early Senegalese who came to Sierra Leone. I am talking about the 1800s. Her family was very close to Dr. Margai and Albert's father. I have SLPP roots but the forces of political evolution got me and I became APC.
We raised to embrace diversity and to respect others values and heritage. My maternal side is made upof Wolof, Fula, Lebu, Krio, French, sherbro/Mende/ kisi.Muslims, Christian, traditionalists and non believers. In Sierra Leone, many people of different ethnic groups felt coomfortable with us. We were not prejudiced. And we treat every one as equal.
You know what I am not going out because I have to call Nigeria and Kenya.
Oh sorry that we do not have any Temne in our family. I may rectify that by marry a Temne. Do you have any nomination?
Oh on my father's side yes we have some Kaletigi. Perhaps that how I want tokick butts. The commando spirit if you know what I mean.
Yaya Fanusie
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: BRA YAYA FANUSIE
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 07:51:52 03/11/07 ()
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Bra, Yaya, tenki for dee reply.
I do not have a romantic Temne candidate for you. The last time I had a Temne gial fren was in Salone. As a matter of fact, me sef dae look for Salone gial. Akata baby dem wan take over. I want a gial fren I can talk to in a Sierra Leonean language. That will be very romantic. If I may say this in Nigerian krio, "Akata don tire me."
Peace out, Bra.
Subject: Re: BRA YAYA FANUSIE
From: Honestly Speaking
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Date Posted: 23:17:03 03/10/07 ()
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Bra Enviable, Yaya is no fighter. He is an old fool that behaves just like the idiot he is. He has plastered his stupidity all over this forum. Yaya is a fool.
Subject: Re: BRA YAYA FANUSIE
From: TRUE SAY FOR TALK
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Date Posted: 08:02:41 03/11/07 ()
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Message:
Indeed, you have my support, Honestly Speaking.
Subject: Re: BRA YAYA FANUSIE
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 01:51:00 03/11/07 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
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Message:
Honestly Speaking,
I agree with your assessment of me.
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: HOW IMPARTIAL IS JUSTICE SYDNEY WARNE?
From: kroobaymom
To: All
Date Posted: 18:06:10 03/10/07 ()
Email Address: kroobaymom@yahoo.com
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How impartial is Justice Sydney Warne, Chairman of the Political Parties Registration Commission?
The Political Parties Registration Commission is indispensable to the conduct of free and fair elections in Sierra Leone. It is expected to ensure that that political parties comply with the code of conduct. Our concern however is how impartial is the commission?
Chairman Justice Warne recently expressed his desire to resolve the rift within the All Peoples Congress Party. We however note his inaction or baised stance on the petition of the PMDC against Solomon Berewa as leader of the SLPP while holding office as Vice President of Sierra Leone.
Outsiders consider Justice Warne's appointment as a pay-off by the Kabbah government and seriously doubt his impartiality. It should be remembered that Chairman Justice Sydney Warne, was Judge of the Sierra Leone High Court that sentenced to death 15 people, including Matilda King, a former deputy health minister, Manley Spain, justice minister and attorney-general, as well as health minister Bailor Leigh and deputy energy minister Hassan Bairie, on the return of President Kabbah and his government from exile, at a time when Berewah was Attorney General. He also found the former President of Sierra Leone, Joseph Saidu Momoh, guilty of conspiracy with the junta, for which he was sentenced to ten years in prison.
We have not heard his commission say anything about cases of multiple voter registrations and the displacement of names of voters; the many reports of voter disenfranchisement; intimidations and harassment of the opposition by the imcumbent party.
Subject: Re: HOW IMPARTIAL IS JUSTICE SYDNEY WARNE?
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 18:42:11 03/10/07 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
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Message:
Kroobaymon,
Some time in 1965 the District council elections took place in Sierra Leone. The APC did not win a single seat. In Kono District the DPC did not win a single seat either. Gandi Capio wept.
S.I Koroma confronted a District Officer/commissioner by
the name of Sheku I do not remember his last name. SI Koroma said to this Sheku fellow. Look if you guys rig the 1967 elections like you have just done. Every one of you responsible for the elections and your families will be killed. There was no rigging of the 1967 elections.
Somebody was assigned the project just incase the elections were rigged in 1967.
I do not believe Sydney Warne is that stupid to be involved in the rigging the July 28, 2007 elections.
He is too smart for that. Kabbah and Berewa might be idiots but I do not believe they are that brave to be involved in rigging of the elections.
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: HOW IMPARTIAL IS JUSTICE SYDNEY WARNE?
From: ok dok
To: All
Date Posted: 20:04:58 03/10/07 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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Message:
My friend the two guys {kABBA , Berewa are too good for that and beside they have already done all campaigns to win the election.Trust me.
Subject: Re: HOW IMPARTIAL IS JUSTICE SYDNEY WARNE?
From: fact
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Date Posted: 18:52:19 03/10/07 ()
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I used to hear the name sydney warne as a small boy growing up in freetown. he must be very old now. how old is he anyway? is such an old man capable of the stress that is salone politriks?
Subject: What Successful People Never Do
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 16:19:15 03/10/07 ()
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Success is an aim which is hard to reach, but not impossible to. One common thread that runs along success stories is that successful people observe great discipline on themselves on their way to the top plus also their foresight. Common among successful people are also goals and their habit of not leaving other aspects of their lives behind.
Despite these characteristics, successful people, like most other people, are no strangers to failure. Even after learning the tips on what things to do or remember to achieve success, people still stumble on which things not to do to achieve success. Herewith is a list of things successful people do not do which other people should not do as well in order to reach success:
For achieving goals, here are some points people should never stumble upon on their way to success:
1. Having no plan at all. Setting goals is just the easy part, some people see the ends they want to meet but cannot see the way through them. It is important to consider the resources one will need and back-up plans should plan A fail.
2. Cramming one's mind with so many things at once. Start small. Take it one step at a time. Build up small habits to enhance self-confidence and then pick up speed then on.
3. Being vague about plans. Try to be more specific. As in exercise, instead of saying "I'll do some work-out next year." Try saying "For the whole year net year, I'll exercise twice a week." or something to that effect. Point is, seal your plans from wiggle-out spaces. Also refrain from absolute statements containing "never" and "always".
4. Fooling one's self. Keep track of progress in a journal or checklist. Sometimes memory becomes really selective and remembers activities never done and forgets about little failures.
5. Beating one's self up. A pat on the back for things done well can mean a lot of encouragement to push through. Do not think too much about the mistakes committed. Learn from them and then move on forward.
6. Expecting things to work perfectly as planned. Leave room for failure. Follow the cliche "try and try until you succeed". If things do not go well the first try, step up and do it again. With a little faith it can be done.
While in the business, here are some pitfalls to avoid:
1. Being content with mediocrity. Asserting one's edge or trait differentiates one from the rest.. Another bonus from this is that you can ask for higher incentives for the marginal benefits that you offer.
2. Underestimating one's worth. Determine the price so that it is both competitive and appropriate. Be cautious about the implications of having too high a price or too low. A price too high drives away customers and a price too low may make clients think twice about the quality of the product or service.
3. Failing to make one's business accessible to potential clients. Best forms of marketing are via word-of-mouth and referrals. Try to penetrate these media of advertising. They are cheap yet highly effective.
4. Becoming a workaholic. It is not advisable for one to burn himself out with work. One should never abandon his health and his life altogether. He may become successful professionally but a total loser in the other aspects of his life. Try to socialize with officemates or colleagues. It is recommended for a person to engage in a healthy recreational activity once in a while to relieve stress brought about by his job.
5. Being content with stacked knowledge. For one to succeed, it is important to always be willing to learn. This is important especially in the field of technology where everything is changing at a very rapid pace. It is important to be up to date with the latest trends, programs and gadgets so that one can deliver well to his clients. Try attending seminars and workshops to keep abreast with the latest trends in your field of work.
6. Finally, failing to enjoy one's work. Personal satisfaction at work is as important as workmanship itself. Personal satisfaction can serve as the well of enthusiasm for a person, ensuring that he only rarely, if not never, loses his momentum at work. Personal satisfaction also keeps a person from draining out of energy to enable him to do other things after work.
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Subject: Re: What Successful People Never Do
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 16:39:50 03/10/07 ()
Email Address:
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Mostly, they are unasuming, not arrogant, respectful, planful, hate small talk, take serious things seriously, less envious, open-minded,keep their promisses, will not say it until they mean it because they believe in integrity, curious about what happens in the world, supportive and assertive. They are not pretentious (fake.) They are honest and care about their image.
Here are a few of them:
Address Directory For The Governmental Leaders of The World
http://www.flimflam.com/international/tocindex.html
http://www.forbes.com/2007/03/07/billionaires-worlds-richest_07billionaires_cz_lk_af_0308billie_land.html
Subject: Re: What Successful People Never Do
From: Waraba
To: All
Date Posted: 18:47:09 03/10/07 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
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Bambay,
Then what happaned to John Leigh? He has all those attributes but he is not successful.
How come?
Waraba
Subject: Re: What Successful People Never Do
From: comedy show
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Date Posted: 19:36:53 03/10/07 ()
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so yaya would you consider yourself to be successful? More successful than John Leigh?
Subject: Re: What Successful People Never Do
From: Waraba
To: All
Date Posted: 23:22:17 03/10/07 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
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Comedy Show:
I guess the reason you use a mask is that you know that you are slow(stupid). Tell me where I claimed to have the attributes of Successful individual?
Waraba
Subject: HAPPY TRIPPLE BIRTHDAY KABS AND WELCOME
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 02:26:43 03/10/07 ()
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Happy tripple birthday kabs and welcome back so that you will continue to update us on the daily events in our beloved country Sierra Leone.
It is a blessing for maken ths website a marvelous place so that Sierraleoneans can express their feelings constructively and take part in discussions of vital importance to Sierra Leone.
Thank you once again and god bless.
Subject: Re: HAPPY TRIPPLE BIRTHDAY KABS AND WELCOME
From: POLITICAL
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Date Posted: 14:33:24 03/10/07 ()
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HOW OLD? I Cannot wish someone a happy birthday if I dont know how old is he.
Subject: Re: HAPPY TRIPPLE BIRTHDAY KABS AND WELCOME
From: Shek Sesay
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Date Posted: 11:55:58 03/10/07 ()
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Hi,
Sheik Sesay of leonenet LUMBC fame,how are you doing? Why are you calling yourself Sa Konday here? Are you a coward, Sheik Sesay? Please contact me later, dumb Shek Sesay
Subject: Re: HAPPY TRIPPLE BIRTHDAY KABS AND WELCOME
From: KABS KANU
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Date Posted: 06:46:36 03/10/07 ()
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Message:
Thanks to all of you who have wished me a happy birthday.I appreciate your sentiments. We at COCORIOKO are happy to hear that you appreciate our efforts. We will work even harder to ensure better service to you all.
Thanks again.
Subject: Re: HAPPY TRIPPLE BIRTHDAY KABS AND WELCOME
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 13:21:36 03/10/07 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
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Happy Birthday brother Kabs Kanu. We appreciate all you have for us and our country. Your kindness and nationalism are unequalled among many Sierra Leoneans.
Keep up the great work.
From Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: You call Hinga Norman A Hero? What a Shame....!!
From: GBANGBANI
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Date Posted: 02:03:30 03/10/07 ()
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Why can't people stop using the word "hero" on this disgruntled fighter? As mentioned by one of the forumite, he was in Sierra Leone during the incursion of the first rebel who invaded his country from Liberia during the then Government of the APC. Was he also not in Sierra Leone when these so-call rebels fought the NPRC toot and Nail? This Man, the Late Hinga Norman only grows interest in fighting for his country when the SLPP came to power. Yet still you people are blind to see the fact that his heroism was only limited in protecting the SLPP who eventually dog him out. Listen all well wishers of Sierra Leone, I am not disputing that he was not a hero for the then SLPP government. However, what I may disagree with is for someone to even thing or get close in referring to him as Sierra Leone national hero... By so doing, one would be doomed to even think of such.
I will call him a social interest partner of the then SLPP.
Subject: Hinga will be laid to rest tomorrow. I will respond monday
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 02:11:55 03/10/07 ()
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Gbangbani, I find your article very interesting but will reply to it on monday.
You very well know that Hinga will be burried tomorrow, so lets for now respect it whatever our grievances mignt be.
Honestly, I am neutral over this affair.
Thanks.
Subject: Re: Hinga will be laid to rest tomorrow. I will respond monday
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 16:56:55 03/10/07 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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Are you there for the ceremony or just over pretending to like him or been in sympathy?
Subject: THANK YOU. YOUR RESPONSE IS UP TO THE POINT!
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 03:39:53 03/11/07 ()
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Thank you very much for your reply.
I will not be at the ceremony; but frankly speaking, I am with him in my heart.
May his soul rest in perfect peace.
Subject: Norman
From: njai
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Date Posted: 22:01:05 03/09/07 ()
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/6435025.stm
Subject: Re: Norman
From: Njai
To: All
Date Posted: 22:05:40 03/09/07 ()
Email Address: njai@comcast.net
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Sorry, my bad
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/6436069.stm
Subject: Gingrich Confesses To Cheating on Wife
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 19:28:11 03/09/07 ()
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former House speaker and potential presidential candidate Newt Gingrich has confessed, telling conservative Christian leader James Dobson that he was cheating on his wife at around the same time the House was impeaching President Bill Clinton over his White House affair with Monica Lewinsky.
But Gingrich said that didn't make him a hypocrite, because Clinton was impeached not for the affair, but for lying about it.
"The president of the United States got in trouble for committing a felony in front of a sitting federal judge," the Georgia Republican told Dobson in an interview posted Friday on Dobson's Focus on the Family Web site. (Listen to Gingrich admit he had an affair )
The House impeached Clinton in December 1998, and he was acquitted by the Senate the following year.
Still, Gingrich's confession could be damage control for his possible presidential race. He has said he will decide about a run for the White House this fall, after he surveys the Republican field.
If he runs, he can treat the affair as an issue he has already dealt with.
Gingrich isn't the only candidate or potential candidate with some messy marriage and divorce issues. Like Gingrich, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani has been married three times. He's currently the Republican front-runner in the presidential derby.
Richard Land, head of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, condemned Giuliani's behavior, calling his break-up with his second wife "divorce on steroids."
"I'm a human being," Giuliani told CNN's Larry King in an interview. "I make mistakes. I'm not perfect."
But Gingrich, who just published a book called "Rediscovering God in America," tapped a religious leader for his confession and expressed repentance.
"There are things in my own life that I have turned to God and have gotten on my knees and prayed about and sought God's forgiveness," he told Dobson.
Gingrich's first marriage ended after he discussed the details of the divorce with his wife while she was recovering from cancer surgery. He married again in 1981 and was divorced in 2000, when he married the young congressional aide with whom he had the affair.
So, will religious voters forgive Gingrich? Dobson seemed inclined to think so.
"I think it's really important and will be for many of our listeners to know your responses to that point of disappointment back there someplace, and I really appreciate your willingness to do so," Dobson told Gingrich.
Critics are likely to call the lot of them hypocrites, however, noting that religious conservatives make allowances for people they agree with politically, like Gingrich, but not for Giuliani or Clinton.
Subject: Re: Gingrich Confesses To Cheating on Wife
From: Graeme
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Date Posted: 02:00:45 03/13/07 ()
Email Address: Waplinggl@optusnet.com.au
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Big hypocrite!!
Again, evidence that religious freaks who scream the loudest, are always up to the same as their complaint or worse.
Subject: SIR ALBERT MARGAI, AN APPRECIATION - Part One
From: Knice
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Date Posted: 18:30:24 03/09/07 ()
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As a secondary school student I occasionally worked at Sir Albert Margai’s poultry farm in Aberdeen and at the vegetable garden that he kept in his compound in Lumley. One aspect of Sir Albert that is often overlooked is that apart from his being an active, and an in demand political leader he was also an extremely industrious man. It was not unusual for him to collect eggs at his poultry farm or seed and water new crops in his vegetable patch. He was also an active and busy practicing lawyer. Sir Albert happened to be the first son of the provinces to train as a lawyer, and he was founder and principal at Strieby Chambers, one of the most successful law firms in Sierra Leone during the 1950s through 1960s.
I like to think that I knew Sir Albert, albeit as well as a teenager can know an important national leader. He had a habit of saying things to no one in particular but which I can see now as very revealing of his passionate love for Sierra Leone. Working in his poultry farm or garden he would for instance glance into the hills surrounding Freetown and declare something like “we are going to terrace those hillsides and prepare them for housing developments”. I remember one time when he gave me a lift to a soccer game in Kingtom. The game was Sierra Leone versus the Gambia, who at the time had a fellow by the name of Samba, a great player and very popular star all over West Africa. Naturally it was a popular game and traffic to it was heavy. We got caught in the traffic jam of course and for a while just sat there without moving at all. At some point Sir Albert glanced towards the Sierra Leone River and said something like “we need a coastal highway from Kingtom (to wherever, I cannot remember), to ease congestion on city streets”.
He loved to drive his personal car, and I think the first BMW I ever saw belonged to Sir Albert. At another time I was beneficiary of still another lift from him as I waited for a Bus at the Cotton Tree Bus Stop. Fourah Bay College was then undergoing a major renovation, courtesy of his own vision. He was at the time either Minister of Education or Finance, I don't quite remember. As we drove west on Pademba road, he suddenly veered south onto the steep climb to Mount Aureol. He just could not resist seeing for himself there and then, how far along the renovation work had come. On first sight of that work he seemed like a boy for whom Santa had delivered all that he wished for Christmas. He grinned from ear to ear, in his trademark jowly grin. He seemed so happy that it was infectious. I remember feeling especially proud to be Sierra Leonean myself.
Over the span of forty years or so I have now and then recalled those rare moments I had with Sir Albert. They were never personal because I was rarely if at all, ever alone with him. I cannot really also say that I fully understood what those contacts, experiences, and whatever he said at the time, meant to me or if they were even significant in any way. I just remember feeling great and feeling important when he was around, even when he did not say a word to me, or when what he said were only directives to clean this or that stall, collect eggs, or perform whatever chore needed attention. But as I have witnessed for far too many years Sierra Leone groaning under the weight of self-inflicted chaos I now and then recall my moments with Sir Albert when I was a kid. Quite frankly there are times when I have wondered about what might have been were Sir Albert re-elected in 1967.
I am a mature man now; a husband and a father. I try to sort my schoolboy fascination with a decidedly charismatic leader from possible deeper meanings if any, that can be culled from my remembrance of the man. Looking back I can now clearly see that he was a man who thought in grand designs. If he conceived and planted oil palm plantations, it was likely that he envisioned diverse industrial processes for which those plantations formed a crucial foundation. Some boast of building sporting stadiums. Sir Albert would build such a stadium only if they were pre-requisite to a network of national sporting leagues. That was his make up and I think that is the way he saw things. For him a piece was only worthy as a component of a grander design, and as prelude to manifestation of a more abundant good.
It is well known fact that there were rumors of violence were Sir Albert’s party, the SLPP retuned to power in 1967. Two of Sir Albert’s closest advisers confirmed to me without knowledge of what the other said, that Sir Albert was advised to delay the 1967 elections on account of those threats. Even President Tubman of Liberia, out of concern that any chaos in Sierra Leone would spill over into Liberia called to appeal for a postponement of the 1967 election until the rumors were vented and all potential for violence diffused. Sir Albert’s also was fully aware that the risk was high that his SLPP would indeed lose the election. His faith in Sierra Leonean democracy was however so devout that he defiantly reminded his SLPP faithful that their service in the opposition if needed, would be as worthy and noble as their service as cabinet ministers.
He was a devout catholic who routinely attended Friday prayers in a gesture of unity with Sierra Leoneans of the Muslim faith. He was in many ways naïve, and also rare among Sierra Leonean leaders to date; an exception; even a freak really, who included rivals into key positions in his cabinet. He enjoyed a devoted following of highly educated and talented young men who hailed from all corners of Sierra Leone, and whom he generously mentored. I just adore Sir Albert, and now that I have benefit of forty years of hindsight, I have no doubt whatsoever that all things considered he remains in my estimation the best leader that Sierra Leone has ever had. In this and perhaps two following episodes I will attempt to articulate my personal appreciation of the man.
Subject: Re: SIR ALBERT MARGAI, AN APPRECIATION - Part One
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 10:09:36 03/10/07 ()
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My dad went to the grave admiring the Margais with every vein in his heart. Having lived through different periods of Sierra Leonean history, his nostalgia for Sir Albert was as deep as the veneration he held for the man. When he once stopped over at CKC to give me some pocket money, the old man held a friendly conversation with Gabreil Amara. Some political opinions were made, and as the two men became even more expressive, my dad remarked, "The Sierra Leone we knew during the Margais was a paradise compared to the political pollution in which our children now live" {translated from Mende into English by me}.
The old man was an SLPP man to the core, which is another way of saying that he was very likely to be uncritical of the Margais. However, it still remains a fact that Sierra Leone was relatively oriented toward democratic institutions, as opposed to the politics of terror instituted by the APC. Out of all this, my question is "How do we recapture the lost moments of national civilization?"
Subject: Re: SIR ALBERT MARGAI, AN APPRECIATION - Part One
From: Knice
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Date Posted: 14:21:24 03/10/07 ()
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ENVIABLE, I understand your dad. What made the Margais far more different than latter day pretenders is that they really, I mean REALLY, believed in Sierra Leonean democracy. Unfortunately all this has been lost against the barrage of fact free propaganda.
It is OK to not like the Margais. It is OK to have our own opinions. But it is not OK to make up our own facts. I am hoping that by relating my own limited contact with Sir Albert I can in some way restore Sierra Leonean dialog onto facts and away from speculation and mindless propaganda. I think we will better off for it.
Subject: SIR MILTON AND ALBERT WHRE TRU E SLPP LEADERS
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 01:03:28 03/10/07 ()
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Thank you very much Knice for your article.
These are the articles that are worth commenting.
We should always say the truth without fair or favour.
That is what I always do.
Sir Milton and Albert were true leaders and fathers of a nation.
I challenge anyone to dispute this statement.
Does the present SLPP want to tell Sierraleoneans that there is no one within the ranks and file that have the same leadership qualities as SIR MILTON or ALBDERT?
If I am right I hope not, then the SLPP should be baned completely from participating in future elections in Sierra Leone.
AH DAY WITH YOU KNICE.
Subject: Re: SIR ALBERT MARGAI, AN APPRECIATION - Part One
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 23:35:23 03/09/07 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
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Knice,
I will wait for the second part; then make my comments.
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: SIR ALBERT MARGAI, AN APPRECIATION - Part One
From: ndomainah
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Date Posted: 06:35:44 03/10/07 ()
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whatever comments you have to make will be stupid yaya.
Subject: Re: SIR ALBERT MARGAI, AN APPRECIATION - Part One
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 13:32:53 03/10/07 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
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Message:
Adewole John made this statement about Albert Margai"
"Fanusie! Albert Margai had contempt for the SLPP but not for Sierra Leone!"
Dr. Margai and Albert Margai would be shocked that fools like you would use handles on this forum. They established a political cullture where Sierra Leoneans expressed their views without any fear from authority.
I will write more after Knice conlude his piece.
Ok fool. Go back to your political outhouse.
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: SIR ALBERT MARGAI, AN APPRECIATION - Part One
From: Waraba
To: All
Date Posted: 16:39:07 03/10/07 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
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ndomainah:
Yu stupidity smell lekkeh kaka. I made it clear that I was going to use waraba when I want to kick idiots like you butt.
And let me say did yu jus bikful lekkeh Alieu. The borboh dey attak kamajors and Mendes den mesef attak am den the borboh dey cri. Wel if en kaka noh tranga dey lel he crawl into his crib and lell dem toss am a supporter lek is suck am.
Brah wen e kam pan politics me nor sabi fambul.
Waraba
Subject: Re: SIR ALBERT MARGAI, AN APPRECIATION - Part One
From: ndomainah
To: All
Date Posted: 14:57:14 03/10/07 ()
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You live in an out house yaya. You pepper this site with insults against others now you are jumping on your own nephew lets see where this will all end because I dont believe that alieu will let you get away with your usual nonsense. Dis time around famble tik might just broke. You use handles to yaya. Arent you the person that writes as waraba. jes get out of ya bra, big man bikfool
Subject: VERY HARD TRUTH ABOUT OUR HERO
From: TRUTH
To: All
Date Posted: 15:17:46 03/09/07 ()
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It is sometimes hard to despise a dead person because he cannot defend himself, but there are so many living witness and concrete evidence that Mr. Norman was a strong RUF member. Ok before you yell at me please give chance to finish. I know some of unar geh fit yaye. There are video clips that show Mr. Norman and Foday Sannoh(Sankoh) holding a meeting on the RUF activities in the Bushes of Bo. It is in that video Foday Sannoh(Sankoh) revealed the spectacular conspiracy about his last name. Sankoh openly ridicule those who called him Sankoh. "Many people called me Foday Sankoh, but my last name is "Sannoh" and I answer to confuse people, is that not so Hinga Norman"? Hinga Norman answer yes and laughed. Hinga Norman left the RUF after Sankoh became much more popular than most of the other originals like Hinga. Don't ask me, buy the video and it is widely sold. You can get more fact than reveal hear. I just judge him by his own words.
Subject: Re: VERY HARD TRUTH ABOUT OUR HERO
From: cunny rabbit
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Date Posted: 16:08:21 03/09/07 ()
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"Hinga Norman left the RUF after Sankoh became much more popular than most of the other originals like Hinga'
Should Johnson Sirleaf, the current Liberian president and former NPFL member, also be considered a rebel?
Subject: Re: VERY HARD TRUTH ABOUT OUR HERO
From: Truth For Tuth
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Date Posted: 16:22:11 03/09/07 ()
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Should Johnson Sirleaf, the current Liberian president and former NPFL member, also be considered a rebel?
Short Answer YES
Subject: Re: VERY HARD TRUTH ABOUT OUR HERO
From: TRUTH
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Date Posted: 17:00:28 03/09/07 ()
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This is why it very very hard to make a civil funeral for the late pappay. As many revered him a hero so also many despise him as a killer.
So the Mayor was right to refuse the civil funeral thing.
Subject: Re: VERY HARD TRUTH ABOUT OUR HERO
From: Post The address
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Date Posted: 15:54:45 03/09/07 ()
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Post the address where the video could be purchased
Subject: Re: VERY HARD TRUTH ABOUT OUR HERO
From: ok dok
To: All
Date Posted: 18:02:22 03/09/07 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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Message:
Do you mind the jerk? He is a banfa kid
Subject: THE 2007 ELECTION POLL RESULTS; ARE THEY RELIABLE?
From: Dr. C. CURTIS-THOMAS
To: All
Date Posted: 15:09:43 03/09/07 ()
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The 2007 election in Sierra Leone is around the corner. To confuse the uninitiated, people will be talking about surveys, which means that we will be inundated with the results of those surveys. Before you consume the information, you need to evaluate whether a survey was properly DESIGNED AND IMPLEMENTED; in other words, do not assume the survey is OKAY until you check it out!
In a nutshell, there are at least 10 criteria that you can use to evaluate a survey. If any of these are missing, JUST PUT THE SURVEY RESULT IN THE TRASH CAN!
(1)THE TARGET POPULATION IS WELL DEFINED: the target population is the entire group of individuals that you are interested in studying. Many survey groups do not do a good job of defining their target population.
(2) THE SAMPLE MATCHES THE TARGET POPULATION: when you are conducting a survey, you typically cannot ask every single member of the target population to provide the information you're looking for. You usually do not have the time or money to do that. The best you can do is select a SAMPLE (a subset of individuals from the population) and get the information from them. Because this sample of individuals is your only link to the entire population, you want that sample to be really good. A good sample represents the target population.
(3)THE SAMPLE SHOULD BE RANDOMLY SELECTED: an important feature of a good survey is that the sample is randomly selected from the target population. RANDOM means that every member of the target population has an equal chance of being included in the sample.
(4)THE SAMPLE SIZE IS LARGE ENOUGH: you must have heard the saying, "less is more"? With surveys, the saying is, "less good information is better than more bad information, but more good information is better". (Hope that was not too confusing). The basic idea here is that if you have a large sample size, and the sample is representative of the target population (meaning radomly selected), you can pretty much count on that information to be accurate. THE BIGGER THE SAMPLE SIZE, THE MORE ACCURATE THE INFORMATION WILL BE!
(5)THE TYPE OF SURVEY USED IS APPROPRIATE: surveys come in many types: mail surveys, telephone surveys, internet surveys, house to house interviews,and man-on-the street surveys (in which someone comes to you and ask "do you favor Dr Curtis-Thomas as your next President or do you favor lawyer Alieu Iscandrai?"). One very important yet sometimes overlooked criterion of a good survey is whether the type of survey being used is appropriate for the sitution.
(6)THE QUESTIONS ARE WELL WORDED: the way that a question is worded in a survey can affect the results. For example, while President Bill clinton was in office and Monica Lewinsky scandal broke, a CNN/Gallup Poll conducted August 21-23,1998, asked respondents to judge Clinton's favorability, and about 60% gave him a positive result. When CNN/Gallup Poll rewarded the question to ask respondents to judge Clinton's favorability "as a person", the result changed: Only about 40% gave him a positive rating! The biggest problem with question wording though is the use of LEADING QUESTION. Just ask Alieu Iscandrai,how many times he has shouted in court, "objection, you honor, Dr. Curtis-Thomas is leading the witness!". In other words, questions are worded in such a way that you know how the surveyer wants you to answer. This leads to BIASED RESULTS.
(7)THE SURVEY IS PROPERLY TIMED:the timing of a survey is everything. Current events shape people's opinions.
(8)THE SURVEY PERSONNEL ARE WELL TRAINED: this can lead to a reliable or unreliable outcome.
(9)THE SURVEY ANSWERS THE ORIGINAL QUESTION: this also can lead to a reliable or unreliable outcome.
(10) GOOD FOLLOW-UP MINIMIZES NON-RESPONSE: This is important. If 1000 people are surveyed and only 100 respond then the result only represents 10% of the original, hence follow-ups are important.
Subject: NO NEED TO EDUCATE US ON POLLS
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 02:43:25 03/10/07 ()
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Rightly as ok dok asked, do you know how many Sierraleoneans live in the USA?
If yes, then you would have done a better job.
Subject: Re: THE 2007 ELECTION POLL RESULTS; ARE THEY RELIABLE?
From: ok dok
To: All
Date Posted: 18:04:18 03/09/07 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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How many sierra leoneans live in U.S.A?
Subject: APC
From: NEWS
To: All
Date Posted: 13:42:31 03/09/07 ()
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The Patriotic Vanguard, Sierra Leone News Portal|
APC Court Cases: Fear of Violence Escalates
- Friday 9 March 2007.
By Alpha R. Jalloh, Vanguard Freetown Bureau Chief.
There has been prevalent fear in Sierra Leone that a late judgement in the case between dissidents and the leader of the All People’s Congress (APC) Ernest Bai Koroma(photo) might spark off violence as the date for the country’s parliamentary and presidential elections draws near.
Dissidents that mainly include lawyer Serry Kamal, Mohamed Bangura and others have been engaged in several litigations against Bai Koroma contending the legality of his leadership.
The protracted trial has aroused concern from many sectors of the country. Ahead of the elections scheduled for July 28, this year, some civil society members have paid a courtesy call on the Chief Justice of Sierra Leone, Dr. Ade Renner- Thomas and expressed concern over the snail pace of the trial. They also expressed fear that a late judgment might lead to unrest in the country.
The APC is the second oldest party in the country formed in September 1961. The oldest is the ruling Sierra Leone People’s Party (SLPP) formed in 1951. The two have been arch-rivals on the political scene since independence.
The APC was overthrown in 1991 but in 1996 it contested elections when the military decided to hand over power to a civilian government. In 2002 Ernest Bai Koroma, a former insurance executive, threw his hat into the political ring, but his victory was followed with series of litigations. However his leadership has won the party immense support since he had never held public office during the APC reign, a reign which was characterised by corruption and violence that made the party to become an anathema to the people.
Reports say civil society members have planned to visit the new Chairman of the Political Parties Registration Commission, Justice Sydney Warne to raise the issue.
A member of the civil society group Sirajin Rollins-Kamara says they met Chief Justice Renner Thomas recently to know from him why there was a delay in delivering judgement. Previously, a “stake holders meeting” was convened at the National Democratic Institute in the capital Freetown
“We are worried because if judgement is given at the last minute, it will likely create unrest. We want judgement now”, says Sirajin Kamara. He adds: “Our next step is to meet the Political Parties Registration Commission (PPRC) to to ask them to withdraw these matters as it has the mandate to arbitrate on such matters.
Sirajin Kamara says when the CJ granted them audience he insisted that there had not been a delay in the matters in court and that it was either the parties concerned in the matters or their lawyers who “often report late” for proceedings so that when either of the parties to the matter were absent, the matters would be adjourned.
According to Sirajin Kamara the Chief Justice said there were non-political matters in court that had taken over five years while the oldest political matter had been in court for “only two years”. He said the Chief Justice pointed out that the matters could not be withdrawn except with the consent of the aggrieved parties in the matter.
Recently,supporters of Ernest Koroma held an emergency press conference in which their spokesman stated that they would take the matter to the PPRC which has the mandate to settle political rifts within parties. Also, during a meeting held at the residence of late President Siaka Stevens, under the chairmanship of Alhaji ABS Janneh, a veteran politician, it was greed that they must also take the matter to the PPRC since the court was not the place to settle party conflicts
President Kabbah recently swore in Justice Warne as the new chairman of the PPRC. Warne is said to be an experienced Judge who will waste no time in making any ruling brought before him as he is versed in the constitution and a retired Judge of the Supreme court.
Suspicion has however been expressed by some APC members that some highly placed personalities in the ruling SLPP are sponsoring malcontents in the APC to create frivolous litigations so as to weaken it since it is the strongest opposition to the ruling SLPP government.
Subject: Re: APC
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Date Posted: 14:08:43 03/09/07 ()
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4 months before the elections, a judge named MARGAI, and malcontents challenging the will of the people. This is a disaster in the making.
Subject: Re: APC
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Date Posted: 14:39:24 03/09/07 ()
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Your point is?
Subject: APC OR PMDC WILL NOT ACCEPT ANY INTIMIDATION THIS TIME
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Date Posted: 00:52:22 03/10/07 ()
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The time for dirty politics is over.
The SLPP can no longer stop the will of the people of Sierra Leone.
Let them do whatever they could; but at the end of the day, they will be defeated.
A defeat that will bring the total collapse of the party the parents of the present PMDC leader made.
The game is over.
Here is a simple formular for the SLPP:
SLPP minus Charles Margai = 0
In order words,
SLPP - Charles Margai = 0.
As simple as that.
Everyone except fools know that State House is going to be occupied by Ernest Koroma or Charles Margai;
or there may be a coalition of both.
Ernest and Charles are seen as clean politicians who have the capacity to streamline Sierra Leone and its economy.
The other I guess you know who I mean is corrupt.
The SLPP is now seen as an outsider.
History is calling them once again to the opposition they belong till total dissarray.
LEH DEN BEGIN FOR PACK DEN PANCHIS EN KOMMOT NA STATE HOUSE YAH!
YE....EH MAN.
Subject: Re: APC OR PMDC WILL NOT ACCEPT ANY INTIMIDATION THIS TIME
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Date Posted: 07:49:57 03/10/07 ()
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Yea bra talk is cheap and free but soon you will wake up and find it was all a dream, so keep dreaming for now
FORREST
Subject: Re: APC OR PMDC WILL NOT ACCEPT ANY INTIMIDATION THIS TIME
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Date Posted: 10:27:18 03/10/07 ()
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HEY CHUMP SO YOU ARE FINALLY BACK WITH YOUR USUAL BULLSHIT
Subject: Re: APC
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Date Posted: 15:14:05 03/09/07 ()
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I think he is talking about the other Margai, the judge suspected of being slpp, who is sitting in judgement over the apc.
Subject: Re: APC
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Date Posted: 02:04:11 03/10/07 ()
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Sam Margai, that's his name. Not Charlie.
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No one said his name was Charlie
Subject: Chief Norma a CARBON Copy of FM Ndevuyama. For Alieu
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Date Posted: 14:07:40 03/09/07 ()
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In Koribondo, he ordered his kamajors to burn down the whole town and boasted that if anyone asked them "tell dem say nar me Hinga tell "wunar" for burn all ting dong nar dis tong"
Poor angels from koribondo. We've also heard witnesses from koribondo telling us that Chief Norma was with the RUF initially and only left them when he lost the leadership contest to Sankoh. And this is the same KORIBONDO that is the home of RUF battlefield commander Mike Lamin aka RASTAY.
Alieu i know you really want to kick the slpp hard where it hurts but please take your Special Court Lawyer wig off for a moment and reason with me from a san san boy points of view.What i am struggling to tell you is that political trials in sierra Leone have always been fixed by the powers that be. I have just witnessed another APC carbon copy of the trial of the late GMT Kai,FM Minah and others. Where the Jury was told by witnesses from Pujehun District that Francis Minah a Lawyer and Vice President of the very APC government went to SOGBEHMA Chiefdom in Pujehun and told the people in a public meeting that he was going to overthrow President Momoh and they should each give him the sum of twenty five thousand Leone's as their own contribution towards that mission. They said that when some of them refused to pay, they were arrested for non compliance and detained at a police station for days before being released, how daft? Do you really believe that as desperate as Minah was for power that he would have done such a thing? Mina was found guilty and the rest is KETAMIA. The only difference this time round is that it is a UN backed Court.
It would only take a few dollars to get the impoverished people from Koribondo to testify against Chief Norma. The RUF sympathisers will be quite happy to do it for nothing as a way of getting their own back. You said that Chief Norma told his kamajor "WUNA burn all ting don nar dis tong" But did you ever check the character reference of the people who were making all this allegation? You can call Chief Norma a CANNIBAL. But trust me the majority of people in koribondo see him as a hero who gave the RUF/AFRC a bloody good hiding during the War. And now that we've been told that you were paid $50.000 for a job well done, can you please tell me how much was the allowance given to those poor witnesses who testified against Chief Norma.
I really need to know because i honestly believe that evidences given by distinguished people like, former VP Demby, former British High Commissioners Pet Penfold and the two Military generals are more credible than those from the poor angels from koribondo. Because these are not people who can be easily bought by a bag of rice or a US dollar. Equally they cannot be intimidated to testify against anyone and to have there fifteen minutes of fame in a talking Shop.
Subject: Re: TESTIMONY FROM THE TRC
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Date Posted: 05:06:38 03/12/07 ()
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123. In particular, the High Priest of the Kamajor Society, self-styled King Dr. Allieu Kondewah,played a key role in the practice of cannibalism and human sacrifice.Evidence available to the Commission indicates that these violations were carried out with the full knowledge of the National Co-ordinatorof the Civil Defence Forces (CDF), Chief Samuel Hinga Norman, who appears in fact to have actively encouraged them.
Subject: Re: Chief Norma a CARBON Copy of FM Ndevuyama. For Alieu
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 14:18:31 03/09/07 ()
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I respect your opinion and humbly disagree. Witnesses at the special court were not paid to provide testimony against anyone. whatever allowance ws given to them by the office of the registrar was to facilitate their movement and stay in freetown during their testiminy. The prosecution had no hands in that and the office of the registrar is an independent entity from the office of the prosecution. I have come to believe that some people would deny an event even when it happens in front of their faces as long as it has to do with the SLPP or hinga norman. VP Demby was a part of the kamajor establishment, lost nothing to kamajor atrocities and has all the reason in the world to testify in favor of the kamajors and Hinga. Peter penfold and the two generall fall in the same category.
What my salary was is irrelevant and immaterial to the debate because I am a professional and if I were going to the special court for the money I needed not to have gone since my income was substantially larger than the paltry $50k that you are making so much noise about. Except of course you want to dis=ctate to me as a professional what I should earn and who I should work for and to that I say "dont you dare"
Subject: Re: Chief Norma a CARBON Copy of FM Ndevuyama. For Alieu
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Date Posted: 07:04:10 03/10/07 ()
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"VP Demby was a part of the kamajor establishment, lost nothing to kamajor atrocities and has all the reason in the world to testify in favor of the kamajors and Hinga ".
Allieu,
I partly disagree. Dr Demby's only house in Kenema was burt down by Kamajors after the AFRC left. That is one of his principal reasons why he re-located to Bo.
Subject: Re: Chief Norma a CARBON Copy of FM Ndevuyama. For Alieu
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 07:40:52 03/10/07 ()
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I stand corrected on that issue. However your post makes my point that there was wanton destruction of lives and property by the kamajors.
Stay Blessed and thanks for the correction of my facts.
Subject: Re: Chief Norma a CARBON Copy of FM Ndevuyama. For Alieu
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Date Posted: 13:41:07 03/10/07 ()
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Mr. Iscandari,
When RUF came to Freetown. Who attacked your father's house and who was trying to kill him? Were they Kamajors?
Yaya Fanusie-an important Member-SLAM
lONG LIVE THE CDF AND LONG LIVE THE KAMAJORS
Subject: Re: Chief Norma a CARBON Copy of FM Ndevuyama. For Alieu
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 14:47:15 03/10/07 ()
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Yaya Fanusie-an important Member-SLAM
Delusions of grandiosity? or just plain crazy
Subject: Re: Chief Norma a CARBON Copy of FM Ndevuyama. For Alieu
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 16:47:00 03/10/07 ()
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Mr. Iscandari:
Tell me why you doubt I am an important member of SLAM? I am going to wait for your answer. Tell me brah? Why I am not an important member of SLAM?
Subject: Re: Chief Norma a CARBON Copy of FM Ndevuyama. For Alieu
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“Witnesses at the special court were not paid to provide testimony against anyone. whatever allowance was given to them by the office of the registrar was to facilitate their movement and stay in Freetown during their testimony.”
But Alieu, this does not disprove the main argument. Unless you assume that the only people with the ability to pay for distorted testimonies were the members of the special court. By the very nature of such political plots, the paymasters of the witnesses are likely to be the members of the political powers that be.
Unfortunately, the court was unable to give its final decision on Norman’s guilt or innocence. As a lawyer, you need to uphold the tenets of your profession that presumes a man to be innocent until he is found guilty. By human legal standards Norman died an innocent man.
If he was the cannibal or sadistic murderer many claim he was he will answer to the Almighty. There will be no debate or appeal before God who was the principle witness to all that Norman did or did not do.
Subject: Re: Chief Norma a CARBON Copy of FM Ndevuyama. For Alieu
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 16:37:02 03/09/07 ()
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the paymasters of the witnesses are likely to be the members of the political powers that be.
This is a fact that I do not know and am not priviledged to speak on. I cannot tell you what I do not know. What I do know is that the ofice of the prosecutor does not pay for the testimony of witnesses and it is a fact that I know.
"Unfortunately, the court was unable to give its final decision on Norman’s guilt or innocence."
Unfortunate indeed!!!!!!
"As a lawyer, you need to uphold the tenets of your profession that presumes a man to be innocent until he is found guilty. By human legal standards Norman died an innocent man"
Never said that he was guilty or innocent because i am not the trier of fact. Three judges are and they fortunately have to make that decision. I have only discussed competent uncontroverted evidence that has been adduced in a court of competent jurisdiction.
" he will answer to the Almighty"
As we all would some day inshallah. But what if someone does not believe in God or the almighty would they have to answer to that almighty in the hereafter? errrr forget it this will just raise a whole new philosophical argument.
stay blessed
Subject: Re: Chief Norma a CARBON Copy of FM Ndevuyama. For Alieu
From: Cheif Justice FM Kutubu
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Date Posted: 09:42:42 03/10/07 ()
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Never said that he was guilty or innocent because i am not the trier of fact.ALIEU
Now,Lets listen to this.
In Koribondo, he ordered his kamajors to burn down the whole town and boasted that if anyone asked them "tell dem say nar me Hinga tell "wunar" for burn all ting dong nar dis tong"Alieu
And this.
Three judges are and they fortunately have to make that decision.ALIEU
And finally this.
Whose hero I dare ask. Not mine and probably a hero only to those who support the killing and roasting of innocent citizens for food, to those who believe that the innocent had to die because they do not support the SLPP.ALIEU
Hmmmmmmmm Lawyer Alieu, my take on this is that you've already tried Chief Norma, found him guilty and executed him because "NAIR SO DEN SAY NAR COURT" But again I am only looking at it from the San San boy point of View.
Alieu,I do not believe a single word that Alpha Saidu Bangura told us here about you because i do not see him as a honest and credible person. I still hold you in high regard.On that note, lets just say that this is a carbon copy of the APC trial of the late Minah.Thank you Cunny Rabbit for getting my DRIFT.
Subject: Re: Chief Norma a CARBON Copy of FM Ndevuyama. For Alieu
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 10:02:56 03/10/07 ()
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CJ
Stating what the uncontroverted evidence is at a trial does not mean that I have found Hinga Norman guilty. It is my opinion that based on the evidence that has been adduced at trial, I believe that he is guilty. The trial court may or may not return a verdict of Guilt. I have absolutely NO control over that. But I am at least entitled to express an opinion as to guilt or innocnece of an accused, just as much as you are entitled to express an opinion as to that same accuseds innocnece. The two are mutually exclusive and equally appropriate. is it your intent that I must be denied my opinion because you dont hold the same opinion?
Now I dont know about the execution part of your post because I am a fervent anti death penalty advocate and I would not have worked for the special court if the death pena;lty were sanctioned by the UN or the court.
On the issue of the san san boy point of view, I hold that even san san boys are entitled to their views and do have the utmost respect for them being an advocate for the underdog that I am.
Now if you were aware of evidence contrary to what has been produced in court, then I wonder why you have not availed yourself of the opportunity to contact the office of the principal defender to offer your services. I am sure that they would have jumped to get you as a witnmess because they did in fact needed many more witnesses to controvert the damning testimony against the kamajor trio. Your failure to present competent evidenc in support of Hinga Norman whenthat evidence was readily available to you (or is it "dem say") is infact a travesty of justice.
On the trial of Minnah, I am unable to comment because not only was I not in freetown at the time of its occurence, I was also not privy to the facts and the evidence adduced at court. I therefore cannot speak on an issue I know nothing about. I hope you get my drift. BTW did you follow the Minnah trials and did you have any evidence which would have controverted that which was adduced at court? If so why didnt you offer that evidence or is the basis of your statements regarding the impropriety of the trial of Minnah, another "den say".
good Weekend to you
Subject: STATE HOUSE NEEDS A PRESIDENT AND FIRST LADY
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 13:04:41 03/09/07 ()
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All said and done, Sierra Leone needs a president and first lady to properly govern.
Ernest Koroma and Charles Margai fulfill the above criteria.
The so called SLPP candidate does not. He should not have contested voor the leadership of the SLPP.
Berewwa is a PALAMPO.
Just imagine what will happen if this man is elected president.
They will just litter CONDOMS alaround the vicinities of state house and beyond.
NA DEN SISI DEN GO PASMARK NAR STATE HOUSE.
My advice is,
PALAMPO NOR FOR RULE SALONE.
LONTA!
Subject: Re: STATE HOUSE NEEDS A PRESIDENT AND FIRST LADY
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Sa Konday...
Your posting is in a very bad taste. Its salacious nature tells a lot about you. A complete ASS-Hole.
You will do well to try and contribute to the debate, if you have nothing worthy of contributing then please crow back to the hole where hence you came from...what ever your name happens to be.
Subject: CHILDREN FROM GOOD HOMES DON'T ABUSE. THEY DISCUSS,
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 15:15:28 03/10/07 ()
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Children from good homes donot abuse. They discuss.
So, bare it in mind.
We are here to say the truth.
Whether you like it or not, we are going to clean that failed system in Sierra Leone.
I know that the only contribution you are capable of making on this forum is using abusive languages.
BUT WHO CARES FOR THE DEAD RAT?
May be only the SCAVENGER like CA... D.....MUUU...Ssssss.
You are lucky for me responding to you.
Normally I donot because this forum is meant for constructive discussions.
You will never get my valuable time in responding to you again.
I have said what is LEATHAL to your memories.
Subject: your article is in very bad taste !
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Date Posted: 13:16:21 03/09/07 ()
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I cannot even begin to imagine that you wrote the above article. In a nutshell, this article is in very bad taste!
It would have done you much good if you had responded to the following:
INVITING SA KONDAY TO THE PODIUM !
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Posted by Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas on March 08, 2007 at 15:59:03:
Posted by Sa Konday on March 08, 2007 at 10:43:05:
Ernest Koroma and Charles Margai are neck on neck according to most polls for the race to STATE HOUSE taken in recent days.
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Can you provide us with more specifics. We would like to see the ACTUAL poll result so as to determine who conducted the poll, what was the SAMPLE SIZE, HOW WAS THE SAMPLE OBTAINED, WAS THE SAMPLE REPRESENTATIVE, etc. Without such material, you are basically insulting our intelligence by making the aforementioned statement!
Subject: The Truth will never have good taste!!
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 13:34:07 03/09/07 ()
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The truth will never have a good taste!!!
NAR FOR TALK THE TRUE!!
YOU YEHRY?
NA IEM DAT OH!
Subject: are you not educationally sound to respond to the question?
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Date Posted: 13:51:44 03/09/07 ()
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So the fact that the man's wife died recently means nothing to you ?
Are you afraid to comment on the following? Did I hear you say that you are not educationally sound to touch it?
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--Posted by Dr. Charles Curtis-Thomas on March 08, 2007 at 15:59:03:
Posted by Sa Konday on March 08, 2007 at 10:43:05:
Ernest Koroma and Charles Margai are neck on neck according to most polls for the race to STATE HOUSE taken in recent days.
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Can you provide us with more specifics. We would like to see the ACTUAL poll result so as to determine who conducted the poll, what was the SAMPLE SIZE, HOW WAS THE SAMPLE OBTAINED, WAS THE SAMPLE REPRESENTATIVE, etc. Without such material, you are basically insulting our intelligence by making the aforementioned statement!
Subject: WE ARE NOW BUSY WITH HINGA'S BURIAL
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 00:31:15 03/10/07 ()
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We are now busy with Hinga's burial.
We shall argue sometime some days.
Thank you.
Subject: Re: STATE HOUSE NEEDS A PRESIDENT AND FIRST LADY
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Date Posted: 13:11:25 03/09/07 ()
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Behave yourself.
Subject: Alieu Iscandari and the Kamajors
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Date Posted: 12:34:09 03/09/07 ()
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Posted by Yaya Fanusie on March 08, 2007 at 23:31:42:
Forumites,
I feel that Alieu Iscandari's obsession with the Kamajors is now at a pathological level. It has gone far beyond the boundaries of national debate and it has become an excessive focus driven by some personal mental conditions. The fellow has lost his senses-rational bearing and just parade is personal projice as a concern of national and public interest.
Are we to understand from Mr. Iscandari that Cheif Hingha Norman had no rights to defend the people of Sierra Leone? are the Mendes not Sierra Leoneans? Are the people of Bo, Bonthe, Pujehun and Kenema not Sierra Leoneans?
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Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari and the Kamajors
From: M. Alieu Iscandari
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Date Posted: 12:53:43 03/09/07 ()
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Yaya sometimes you surprise me with your crass display of ignorance despite the fact that you are so highly educated and have always been one family member whose educational achievements I have wanted to emulate.
I have had no problems with the Kamjors, they are as far as I know a bunch of illetrate village hunters who had a good cause but which cause was perverted by their leadership. They had a right to defend themselves against the RUF and its progeny. THEY DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO KILL INNOCENT HUMAN CIVILIANS. Now do I need to split you damn head and shove these capitalized information in or do you have a congenital learning problem, or in the alternative is my uncle aging real fast and missing his doses of ginko biloba.
You know my position on these issues and it really hurts me when you MISREPRESENT my position with these vitrolic attacks reminiscent of a drunken poster. I have advocated for the arming of the whole population of sierra leone so that we as a people become our nations first line of defence in the event of an invasion of our republic by a rag tag army of drugcrazed gun totting crooks.
"are the Mendes not Sierra Leoneans? Are the people of Bo, Bonthe, Pujehun and Kenema not Sierra Leoneans? "
I fail to understand the reason for the above quoted because it makes absolutely no sense. You have been closer to me more than any other forumite on this forum and You know that I have haboured no evil briefs for any of my people from the south east, my problem has always been that political party from the south east that sows hate and partisanship in the governance of my country. I would have gladly picked up a gun matchete or any other weapon od less than mas destruction to defend Bo Kenema pujehun against the RUF and the AFRC if I had been given an opportunity to do so.
My position is clear. I oppose tribal militias and the kamajors were one. I oppose the wanton intentional murder of innocent civilians and I stand by that. I received many calls this morning from brothers who asked me about the nonsense that you posted on the awareness forum, and forum that I have never posted on. I ask that if you see the need to make statements in the future regarding my firmly held beliefs, please post them on the cocorioko forum where I can address them. I do not appreciate your posting them on a forum ostensibly to drive traffic to that forum (as you told me yesterday). I do not appreciate this cheap attempt at cheap popularity orchestrated by you.
Good morning Uncle Yaya and to hell with you
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari and the Kamajors
From: Kohtoh Kamal
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Date Posted: 12:49:29 03/09/07 ()
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Excellent questions that were preceded by great observations. Imagine how Sierra Leone would have been if we had a Norman in every region? That silly war would not have lasted 12 years. Mr Iscandri is really just trying to justify the $50K he was paid to go prosecute Norman.
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari and the Kamajors
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 12:57:24 03/09/07 ()
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KK you are just another asinine fellow. Lets asume that I was paid $50,000.00 are you jealous of that? My opinions are ones that I have firmly held since the start of the war in sierra leone and will continue to hold. neither your stoopid assed comments will sway me from holding firm to the truth. You appear to be one of those who supported the intentional killing of innocent people by your hero and his thugs.
To hell with you too.ROTFLMMFAO
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari and the Kamajors
From: Njai
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Date Posted: 13:06:31 03/09/07 ()
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Alieu,
What is ROTFLMMFAO?
Thanks.
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari and the Kamajors
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 13:50:50 03/09/07 ()
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I sent it to you e mail address
Subject: SALONE JOURNALISTS IN AUSTRALIA
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The Patriotic Vanguard, Sierra Leone News Portal|
Exile: Sierra Leonean Journalists in Australia
- Friday 9 March 2007.
By Anthony B. Conteh (Tony Bee), Vanguard Sydney (Australia) Correspondent.
Edison Yongai(photo), Interim Chairman of the Association of Sierra Leonean Journalists in Exile (Australia) says he was the Editor of one of the country’s local newspapers, The Point, which started publication in 1996. He says the war brought him to Australia because of his journalistic role in exposing corrupt politicians and the odds of the war. In other words there was no freedom of speech and expression in the country; there was not any semblance of democracy. As a result Yongai was arrested and detained for one of the articles he wrote about the corrupt practices of the current government of President Ahmad Tejan-Kabbah. Since then he became one of the targeted journalists in the country.
The present government still uses the out-dated 1965 Public Order Act (libel law) to silence and incriminate journalists and other outspoken individuals in the country. Journalists were and are arrested arbitrarily without trial. For example, a colleague journalist, Paul Kamara, the Editor of one of the local newspapers, For Di People, was arrested recently and jailed for four years for allegedly writing libellous articles against the Head of State, President Tejan Kabbah. While the Editor was serving his jail term, his Deputy Editor called Harry Yansaneh was brutally beaten up and killed by hooligans sent by a member of the present government.
“It is because of the lack of stability in the country that made most of the patriotic and outspoken Journalists like me flee the country, especially when I was already in the bad books of the government for doing my duty to my country,” Mr Yongai says.
He said he fled Sierra Leone in 1999 by boat to Guinea where he stayed for nearly three years as a refugee before he was finally resettled in Australia through the efforts of the UNHCR Protection Officer in Guinea, Mr. Hans Lunshoff, who did all he could to make journalists and other vulnerable refugees resettle in Australia.
“At the beginning things were not easy for us as refugee journalists because the former UNHCR officials were not working in the interest of refugees, which had led to several mass demonstrations against the UNHCR. Because the refugee office was embroiled in corruption, the resettlement process was at a standstill. The situation changed for the better when Mr. Lunshoff arrived as the new Protection Officer in around 2000,” Mr Edison Yongai adds.
Edison Yongai says he is here with his family but some of his relatives are still languishing in Guinea fearing to return to Sierra Leone because of him.
He says he is not currently doing any job as a journalist except for his role as the presenter of the Sierra Leone community radio and doing the newsletter for the company he works for. Moreover, he writes correspondent articles for various newspapers overseas and also does creative writing.
When he was asked why he was not deeply involved in the field of journalism in Australia, he says it is mainly due to the fact that African journalists are in less demand in Australia than other foreign nationals. He expressed thanks to the consortium partners of ACL, Mission Australia, STARRTS and Resolve FM for employing him.
Michael Kamara says he had served as Editor for several newspapers and magazines in Sierra Leone for many years, including The New Star, The Pathfinder and The Globe International magazine. He says being a journalist in Sierra Leone is a very dangerous task, especially for the outspoken journalists during the war.
He goes on: “In the war period, journalists were in a great dilemma, for example, when a journalist reported about the evil deeds of one of the warring factions, that faction would say the journalist was against them and he would be a target for elimination. For instance, if you reported about the performance of the rebels in the jungles, the government would say you were giving more publicity to the rebels than to the government and it was vice versa."
Kamara says that because of his outspokenness during the brutal civil war in his country, he was arrested and jailed for one of the articles he wrote about how successive military and civilian governments were politicising the war at the expense of the innocent and defenceless masses.
“One night, people were sent to eliminate me. I heard their threats outside my residence using vulgar language and challenging me to come outside. I was wise enough to wake up my wife and kids at that fearful moment and we escaped through the back door. Unfortunately, my wife who was trailing behind, was caught by a bullet from the assailants and, by the time we arrived with her in the hospital, she was dead,” Kamara explains.
He said he fled Sierra Leone by boat on 11 February 1999 and arrived in Guinea as a refugee. Since he knew nobody in Guinea and could not speak French, the official language of the country, he intended to go to another country called Mali as he saw a bleak future in Guinea. It was then he heard his colleague journalists talking about resettlement to a third country which could be achieved through the UNHCR.
Kamara says he arrived in Perth in 2001 as a refugee. During the process of resettling in Australia, he lost his eldest daughter who was left behind in Africa. In Australia he tried to work as a journalist but it was all futile. He applied to various media houses in Perth but he was turned down and so he decided to come to Sydney hoping that things would be different. Sadly enough, the situation was still the same and he ended up not securing a job in his profession. In order to support his family here and abroad, he was forced to pick up a security job, for which he was overqualified.
Mr Edmondson Sonny Cole, the brain behind the popular documentary, Darkness Over Paradise, which chronicles the brutality of the war in Sierra Leone and its effect on journalists, says he started his journalism career in 1983 with the Sierra Leone Broadcasting Service Television (SLBS/TV) as a technician. He was later assigned to the Ministry of Defence as a Cameraman during the military rule in April 1992 to cover the war. But when civilian rule was restored in 1996 and Ahmad Tejan-Kabbah became president, Mr Cole was further sent to State House as Cameraman to cover the official activities of the President, including his official visits inside and outside the country.
He said he later became disgruntled with the President’s policies, which he didn’t think were in the best interest of the country and its people. For instance, the President gave more power to the civil militia known as Kamajor at the expense of the regular army, which was there to protect the country against the ravages of the guerrilla fighters. The President’s neglect of the military brought several conflicts between the military and the civil militia, so that instead of the two groups fighting against the guerrillas, which were the enemy, they tried to eliminate each other.
“In our general discussions, I always raised the issue of the President’s negative attitude to the military for the attention of my fellow journalists at State House, some of whom secretly informed the authorities about what I said. As a result I was regarded as an enemy of the government,” Sonny Cole says.
“My problem became more complex when President Tejan-Kabbah’s civilian government was overthrown by the military in the thick of the war in 1997 and he and most of his Ministers fled into exile in Guinea. I was still in Freetown and the new military government knew I had worked for the deposed civilian government as a cameraman, and so they hunted and found me and threatened me at gun-point to work for them since they needed an experienced cameraman. I had no alternative but to comply or I would be killed. It was then the exiled President announced on his clandestine radio station that all those working for the military were collaborators.
“When the President was forcefully reinstated through the military might of the regional intervention force, I was advised by colleagues that my name was on the list of those who worked for the ousted military regime and that I would be arrested and charged with treason. The penalty for treason in Sierra Leone is death by hanging or firing squad or life imprisonment. Thanks to the help of a journalist association in America, Committee for the Protection of Journalists (CPJ), I narrowly escaped to neighbouring Guinea in 2000 where I stayed as a refugee. Here too I was not safe because, as a cameraman with the civilian government before it was overthrown, I had shot some pictures of the execution by firing squad of people that the reinstated civilian government regarded as collaborators and among them was a lady called Kula Samba, who was said to be pregnant at the time of her execution. The relatives, families and friends of the executed people, who had also fled to Guinea, identified me as the cameraman that was working at State House with the civilian President and they wanted to kill me.”
Sonny Edmondson Cole said he remained in hiding in Guinea until the UNHCR granted him refugee status to be resettled in Australia in 2002.
He says that when he arrived in Australia, his desire was to continue with his photo journalism profession but he found it very difficult to make a breakthrough in the country’s mainstream journalism. He says he applied to many media houses but he was always turned down.
“Perhaps they thought I would not perform well if they engaged me, but I always carry the conviction that a journalist finding himself anywhere is still a journalist,” he adds.
Sonny Cole concludes: “That is why I am currently practicing my profession within my community. This will act as a strong message to the western world that Africans too, especially Sierra Leoneans, are capable of doing whatever they do if only we are given the chance. My bravery and zeal as a cameraman can be seen in Darkness Over Paradise, the documentary I put together through the help of my colleagues and some benevolent people in Australia. I thank all for their support.”
Subject: GENERAL PREVIEW OF THE THREE DRAFT BILLS
From: LEGAL EXPERTS
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Date Posted: 12:10:24 03/09/07 ()
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GENERAL PREVIEW OF THE THREE DRAFT BILLS
BACKGROUND:
Sierra Leone is a signatory to the Convention known as The Convention on the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW). This convention requires state parties to avoid discrimination against women in the enjoyment of all civil, political, economic and cultural rights.
As a signatory to CEDAW, the Government of Sierra Leone has an obligation to reform existing laws to protect women. The enactment of these Bills would be the first step towards fulfilling its obligation
WHY THESE THREE BILLS AND NOT THE DOMESTICATION OF THE CONVENTION ON THE ELIMINATION OF ALL FORMS OF DISCRIMINATION AGAINST WOMEN (CEDAW)?
Because of the delay on the part of the Sierra Leone Parliament to domesticate CEDAW since it was signed and ratified over 15 years ago, interested parties taught it fit to find a short cut to have three proposed bills enacted in to law to solve the many problems that women currently face in our society. At the moment CEDAW is just a treaty that Sierra Leone signed and ratified with absolutely no force of law.
WHAT ARE THESE THREE BILLS?
The three proposed bills dealt with areas that have been of serious concern to women. They are:
• The Registration of Customary Marriage and Divorce Bill;
• The Intestate Succession Bill; and
• the Domestic violence Bill.
These proposed bills are yet to be tabled before Parliament.
REGISTRATION OF CUSTOMARY MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE BILL
The recent population census conducted revealed that women constitute about 52% of the Country’s population which is an indication that most women who contract marriages normally do so under customary law and are more vulnerable to most of the problems associated with this type of marriage. Though custom is constitutionally recognized, customary marriages vary from tribe to tribe and are mostly unwritten and uncertain.
The passing of this bill in to law will make for certainty thereby laying very important points:
• The Bill has a minimum age of marriage which is eighteen years. The age in the bill is in line with international standards that define a child as –
“any person who has not yet attained the age of 18 years”
• The certainty in terms of age would allow a woman who is mature enough to enter in to a contract; which means, if the husband dies she will be in a position to inherit the property of her late husband.
• The bill is also important as it would allow the girl child to have a reasonable education before contracting any form of marriage.
• The bill also aims to reduce maternal mortality rate as girls aged 10-14 are 5 times more likely to die during child birth than women in their 20’s.
• The bill also makes room for the bride’s consent which is absent in most customary marriages contracted.
• The bill if passed in to law would enable women to keep and dispose of their own property in the same way as men.
• The return of the bride price or dowry when a woman divorces has forced a lot of women to stay in unhappy marriages because most of them cannot pay back the money, however the new bill if passed in to law states that the bride price or dowry need not be repaid in the event that the marriage ends.
• The new Bill states that partners who cohabit for more than 10 years will be afforded the same protection as married couple.
• The Bill requires all marriages and divorces be registered. This would ensure spouses are not under age and that both consent. It would enable women to prove their divorce, essential if they want to apply for maintenance or remarry.
INTESTATE SUCCESSION BILL
This has to do with what happens when a person dies without making a will. Under the current laws in Sierra Leone, women are in a vulnerable position when relations die without making a will. If this bill is passed in to law, the present law under the Mohammedan marriage law which states that women and girls are not entitled to property; cannot take over the estates of their late husbands; and with no specific rule(s) as to how property can be shared, will be laid to rest. Within the Administration of Estates Cap.45 of the Laws of Sierra Leone 1960, the man inherits 100% of his wife’s property when she dies, while at the death of the husband, 1/3 of the property of the husband’s estate will go to the woman if there are children and half if there are none.
The Bill if passed into law will provide for the following:
• Unmarried couples who cohabit for longer than 10 years will be entitled to inherit each other’s property;
• Illegitimate children will be protected;
• Male and female children will be treated equally
• Spouses and children will be entitled to all moveable objects and houses belonging to the deceased;
• Other dependents of the deceased will be entitled to the residue of the estate;
• It will be an offence to eject a surviving spouse or child from the matrimonial home before the formal distribution of the estate.
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE BILL
Domestic violence is a serious concern in Sierra Leone. It can take the form of:
- Physical violence
- sexual,
- emotional,
- psychological
- and
- economic abuse.
The prevalence of domestic violence has had a serious effect on sexual violence as wife battering and sexual offence are on the increase.
If the proposed bill is passed in to law it would introduce means of dealing with this domestic violence:
• Cases will be dealt with by out of court settlement as at present;
• More serious cases can be prosecuted under a new criminal offence of ‘domestic violence’
• The complainant could apply for a ‘protection order’
THE ROLE OF FEMALE COUNCILLORS AND LOCAL COUNCILS TOWARDS THE ENACTMENT OF THESE THREE BILLS
Being the highest political authority women Councillors as well as ward committees members have an important role to play in ensuring that these bills are enacted into law.
With a constitutional Review Committee being set up to review the 1991 constitution, it is imperative that women make representations to the committee to present their case.
Chapter three of the 1991 Constitution provides for respect and protection of basic human rights and freedoms of individuals in Sierra Leone. Section 15 of the 1991 Constitution states that regardless of (male or female) a person has rights to enjoy all these basic rights. Section 27(1) of the constitution of Sierra Leone provides that:
“No law shall make any provision which is discriminatory either of itself or in its effect”
Unfortunately for the women section 27(4)weakens the above mentioned safeguard by stating that the constitution which is the most powerful law in the land can discriminate against women if it deals with Adoption, Marriage, Burial ,Sharing and distribution of property upon death as well, as well as local traditional.
With this constitutional provision in place advocacy for these three proposed bills to be passed in to law will be a mere waste of time. Hence strong representation must be made to the Law Reform Commission to expunge section 27(4)(d) of the 1991 Constitution to give the bills the required effects when they would have been enacted in to law.
WHY THE SENSITIZATION ON THESE THREE BILLS NOW?
The eve of the Presidential and Parliamentary elections is an appropriate period to lobby the central government and even our Parliamentary representatives to see the need to fast track the whole process in ensuring that these three bills are firstly tabled before Parliament and thereafter passed speedily in to law before Parliament dissolves.
Subject: Ignorance is a disease affecting all in Liberia! Even some k
From: SamJackson
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Date Posted: 11:31:11 03/09/07 ()
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CONCERNED LIBERIANS FORUM
Ignorance is a disease affecting all in Liberia! Even some key GOL officials thought our debts fini
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SamJackson
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I have been going on several programs in Liberia explaining to people, that no, our debts to the US, UK and Germany were not cancelled. They will be cancelled under HIPC. That is a long ways from now. In the main time, even Dr. Sayed announced this week that we do not even qualify for HIPC. Thus all the hullabalooo about debt cancellation was just pure air. In fact most people here bought into the debt cancellation talk. I changed their minds. Some even suggested that that GOL may have been dishonest. I don't think so. It appears that they just did not understand the language. And so it goes.
I am shocked.
Subject: CHIEF NORMAN HAILED BY THRONGS
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 09:45:47 03/09/07 ()
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Tens of thousands of every day Sierra Leoneans from all ethnic groups and all works of life paid their last respects to the late Samuel Hinga Norman as his body reposed at Victoria Park, Freetown. Men and women and children wept upon viewing the remains of one of Sierra Leone's worrior heroes.
Despite repeated warnings that the entire program would be a wholely family affair, some unscrupulous political flunkies tried to exploit the unhappiness of the event.
A flunky political grouping of harlor politicians and junior tribalists Tombo-dumbos attended the Victoria Park viewing in force, complete with large loud banners, part colors and music only to be told politely to vacate the premises as the whole even was non-political.
Earlier a very committed PMDC member informed me that Chief Norman's death will be a major plank in their election campaign. I told him that when their atempted exploitation bloes up in their faces, they should be prepared to blame no one.
Earlier today, Chief Norman remains arrived in Bo accompanied by his immediate family members including Ms. Juliet Norman, Sam jr., Mrs. Mamie Norman and an assortment of close relatives. The viewing in Bo today to said to be even larger and feelings more intense as people from Bo and adjacent districts poured into Bo Town.
Funeral Service is on Sunday at ArchDeacon Fofafna's Salvation Church, Bo with internment at the Norman Village, located approximately 2 miles East of Mogheri on the road to Baomahun.
Subject: Re: CHIEF NORMAN HAILED BY THRONGS
From: Dr. C. CURTIS-THOMAS
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Date Posted: 09:56:02 03/09/07 ()
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May his soul rest in peace.
Subject: Re: CHIEF NORMAN HAILED BY THRONGS
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 13:00:24 03/09/07 ()
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and may the spirits of the innocent men women and children killed on his orders at Koribondo and other places in sierra leone haunt his ass in the grave.
Subject: Re: CHIEF NORMAN HAILED BY THRONGS
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 16:15:15 03/09/07 ()
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Mr. Iscandari,
The State Bar of California should revoke your license to practice law in California for your unprofessional conduct and display of gross proffessional incompetence.
When is an allegation a verdict?
You get my drift? You Kamajor hater! And you are also Mende envy!
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: CHIEF NORMAN HAILED BY THRONGS
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 07:45:46 03/10/07 ()
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Yaya although I disagree with Alieu on the issue of the Kamajors I would not go so far as to say that he hates kamajors or has an envy for mendes of which I am one. I think that you are stretching the truth a little bit here APC yaya. Is this for sensationalism or is it because you now have a mende gial that you want to impress
Subject: Re: CHIEF NORMAN HAILED BY THRONGS
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 16:29:23 03/09/07 ()
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Yaya I have watched you say the most rude things to people on this web site but your penchant for Misrepresentations beguiles me. I was not the writer of that piece with my name and indeed someone did write that I wasnt. I do not post things like that. Who am I to condemn someones soul to hell, That is within the realm of the almighy Allah. I did not post that piece of trash posting and I disavow it. Someone else is using my name to stir up trouble. But knowing you and your knee jerk reactions I am sure you would have picked up on something as salient as that.
You could even have called me and asked me about that and I would have disavowed that on the phone. You know me well enough to know that I would not be so cras and that if that were my post I would NOT disavow it.
Now go get your siesta you are in retirement you know that means get some rest for your tired mind so that you can start thinking clearly.
Subject: Re: CHIEF NORMAN HAILED BY THRONGS
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 13:08:27 03/09/07 ()
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Oh this was not sent by ALIEU my friends.Will i please ask the rebels that were fortunate to come to America stop all these false life?
Subject: Re: CHIEF NORMAN HAILED BY THRONGS
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 16:40:18 03/09/07 ()
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Indeed it was not sent by me. And I thank you for that observation
Subject: Re: CHIEF NORMAN HAILED BY THRONGS
From: I am not JEL
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Date Posted: 09:54:45 03/09/07 ()
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I dont think this is the writing of John E Leigh. If it is may be he was sleep working. I am not talking about the story, but the english and typo in the content.
Subject: Re: CHIEF NORMAN HAILED BY THRONGS
From: FREETOWN MAN
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If you are using the internet in Freetown, the last thing that you think about is making spelling mistakes.
Subject: Sixth graders had sex in class
From: JOKO
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Sixth graders had sex in class
Indianapolis - For months it's been a well-kept secret. But now Warren Township Schools confirm a disturbing case of sex in the classroom. The illicit activity has parents concerned and a district at a loss for words.
Shop class gives students a chance to learn outside of the book. But at Warren Township's Raymond Park Middle School, two students engaged in illicit acts in view of goggled eyes.
13 Investigates was tipped off by a disturbed resident who writes:
"...during school hours in a classroom with an experienced teacher present, two sixth graders completed the act of intercourse...at least ten students were witnesses. No disciplinary actions were taken against the teacher... All teachers were told to keep quiet."
Middle school students having sex in a busy classroom while a teacher is present? Warren Township Associate Superintendent Jeff Swensson confirmed it's true. It's been kept under wraps since November.
The principal at Raymond Park Middle School would not speak to us about the incident or parents concerns. The superintendent in charge of middle schools in the district also backed out of an on-camera interview and instead provided a three-sentence statement:
"Two students were involved in inappropriate conduct in a lab class last semester. We have investigated the matter and taken appropriate action. The school corporation considers the matter closed and will have no further comment."
Associate Superintendent Jeff Swensson told Eyewitness News off camera the teacher didn't know what was going on because another student acted as a "look-out." But once the teacher discovered the behavior, immediate action was taken. Swensson says the students involved were recommended for expulsion. But he did not say whether the board followed that recommendation.
Warren Township School Police were not aware of the incident and say no report was made even though the children were recommended for expulsion.
We sought comment from all seven Warren Township School Board Members about how this case was handled. No one was available to speak with us.
Subject: Politics at Play
From: KANJI
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Date Posted: 05:06:28 03/09/07 ()
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Though he was charged with alleged crimes against humanity, the court did not find him guilty of the allegations since he died with no verdict given," Kabbah told state radio last week.
"Because of this, my government is of the view that Norman should be given a state funeral," he said.
Norman's body will be taken to his home village of Ngolala, in the southern region of Bo, for a Christian burial on Sunday. (Additional reporting by James Knight and Katrina Manson in Freetown)
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Subject: REPLY: A TRIBUTE TO MUSA KHALIL SUMA (1942 - 2007)
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 04:39:05 03/09/07 ()
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[The following recent exchange is presented here, courtesy of SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, in the continuing effort to apprise fellow S/Leoneans of issues affecting our country's development. The names of my correspondednts, where necessary, have been redacted upon privacy grounds].
--- In SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, MohmJ@... wrote on March 9, 2007:
>
In a message dated 3/7/2007 3:28:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [Name Redacted]@gmail.com writes:
Mr. Jalloh,
I join Mrs. [Name Redacted] in commending you for a well written Tribute. Mr. Suma was indeed a great Sierra Leonean. His life is inspiring to all, and will forever be known as one of Sierra Leone's greatest.
My Sympathy to the Suma family and friends.
[Name Redacted]:
Thank you for your compliment and for your expression of sympathy to the family and friends of the late Mr. Musa Suma. Indeed, the funeral service for Mr. Suma will take place later today in Samu, Kambia District, in SL. He is expected to be buried on his farm just across Samu on the Guinean side of the artificially delineated border with SL.
I suspected that Mr. Suma's story would resonate particularly with you and many of our other promising youths who hold the key to our country's redemption because of his early commitment to a principle which you, Amadu and myself, among others, have discussed here -- inter-generational cooperation.
What the late Mr. Suma proved spectacularly at SLPMB, by leading promising young S/Leoneans, irrespective of their tribe, social status, sex, or other ascr1ptive status, to the greatest accomplishments ever recorded in SLPMB's 47-year history, is the validity of the thesis that I posited here last here in regard to our country, namely: That under certain conditions of cooperation between the older generation and the younger generation of S/Leoneans, it would be impossible for our country to fail to progress. For a detailed explanation of what I meant, please see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SALONEDiscussion/message/1360 .
My response to Amadu's follow-up question about the responsibility of the youth to respect their elders in order to make inter-generation cooperation a success should also help in understanding the concept that I contend is crucial to the development of our country. Please refer to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SALONEDiscussion/message/1418
It is a great pity, as I duly noted in my published tribute to Mr. Suma, that, due to his untimely passing away, we would never know whether he would have done for SL what he spectacularly did for SLPMB -- transforming an incompetent, backward institution into a competent, progressive example for all to follow. Please see http://www.thepatrioticvanguard.com/article.php3?id_article=1074
May his soul rest in peace.
Sincerely,
Moh'm
Subject: Re: REPLY: A TRIBUTE TO MUSA KHALIL SUMA (1942 - 2007)
From: Abdul Koroma
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Date Posted: 10:57:57 03/09/07 ()
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Mr. Jalloh,
I hope our historians will keep your article to use for writing the history of Salone under Siaka Stevens APC. It rings true to my ears. Yes sir, I find it very credible. It takes a lot of courage to put out that kind of article when many Sierra Leoneans have made Suma-bashing their pasttime.
Like somebody said earlier, we should be careful of believing gossipers.
Subject: Re: REPLY: A TRIBUTE TO MUSA KHALIL SUMA (1942 - 2007)
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 13:18:04 03/09/07 ()
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Abdul:
You make a good point about the need to keep history accurate. You are no less correct about the danger of maliciously wagging tongues that seem to proliferate in direct proportion to the level of poor education back home.
This is why I have always argued to my admirably pan-Anfricanist friend, Yaya Fanusi, that the best gift we can give to the needy millions of our fellow S/Leoneans is to help them develop the ability to reason properly. It would help them in every facet of life -- from properly evaluting who to vote for in presidential elections, to saying no to clueless government proposals being fronted by the SL government for rapaciously greedy foreigners such a sthe IMF and the World Bank.
Then, the choice of whether they would practice straight-thinking would be eminently theirs -- and the blame for not doing so, similarly, would be theirs and theirs alone.
As I also ever fail to tell Yaya, that is far better than providing them $200 or $300 in micro credits. For, there are many preople with money who can not reason properly. And, as the sayingh goes, fools and their money are soon parted.
Subject: Re: REPLY: A TRIBUTE TO MUSA KHALIL SUMA (1942 - 2007)
From: Interesting
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Date Posted: 09:21:15 03/09/07 ()
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Moh'm, your piece is very educational. I found out a lot of things today about Suma I did not know before.
Subject: Re: REPLY: A TRIBUTE TO MUSA KHALIL SUMA (1942 - 2007)
From: WHAT IF?
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Date Posted: 10:40:14 03/09/07 ()
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To me, what I found most fascinating about Suma was when Jalloh said --- "It was also evidence of two of Mr. Suma¡¯s many other admirable qualities. First, he had an unshakeable commitment to the morally upright principle that neither age nor tribe should be a barrier to any capable S/Leonean¡¯s opportunity to serve his/her country. Second, he was committed to the principle that employees should be rewarded only as a result of their performance. Those twin qualities and many others illustrated in my personal story and that of many others who were fortunate to have worked with Mr. Suma represent the secrets of his phenomenal success as the most accomplished managing director of the largest parastatal in SL at the time ¡ª SLPMB. Musa Suma¡¯s stellar accomplishment was made even more remarkable by the fact that he was the youngest person ever appointed managing director in SLPMB¡¯s 47-year history."
Now, check this out. Let's assume Jalloh is telliong the truth. Let's go back to when Stevens wanted to end his dicxtatorship in Sa Lon. What, if Bandele, instead of Big Wase Momoh, gave the job to Suma?
After all, Suma was as APC as Momoh. So, no problem there. Becos Suma was a northerner as Momoh, no problem too. If we take what Jalloh wrote as gospel truth, to me Suma had the experience far, far way pass Momoh. I wonder why Bandele did not give his chair to Suma.
Subject: Re: REPLY: A TRIBUTE TO MUSA KHALIL SUMA (1942 - 2007)
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 13:26:55 03/09/07 ()
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One of the late Mr. Suma's greatest frustrations was his inability to persuade the late President Stevens to follow all of his (Suma's) recommendations.
For example, had President Stevens listened to Mr. Suma, the latter's successor as Managing Director of SLPMB in 1983 would not have been a civil servant recruited from State House, who, in his second week on the job, asked me in desperation, to start visiting him at home in the evenings to teach him about the comprehensive systems aand procedures that I had designed and which ensured an adequaute system of internal controls at SLPMB throughout Mr. Suma's tenure.
It is not hard to conclude, therefore, that the collapse of SLPMB 10 years after Mr. Suma left it with its most solid balance sheet in its history, represents a catastrophic failure by Mr. Suma to change President Siaka Stevens's mind about the need to appoint as Managing director of SLPMB someone acceptable to a certain tribe which, accotrding to Stevens, considered SLPMB its property alone, rather than that of the people of SL.
Subject: Re: REPLY: A TRIBUTE TO MUSA KHALIL SUMA (1942 - 2007)
From: Man Butu, Man Watch
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Date Posted: 10:50:44 03/09/07 ()
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eef you wan know wating do Shaka Stevens nor gee Suma the job, jes ask yousef watin mek bra cunning rabbit Shaka nor gee een yone vice president, S.I. Koroma the job -- befoe dat, ee go gee josehine Momoh.
Subject: Re: REPLY: A TRIBUTE TO MUSA KHALIL SUMA (1942 - 2007)
From: TRUE
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Date Posted: 10:21:53 03/09/07 ()
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Nar true. Di way wae salone pipul dem bin dae tork but dis Suma man, me sef bin believe dem. Ar nor ever know say di man do all dem tings dem for salone way ar read nar Jalloh hin tribute.
ee jes for show say, norto all tin wae pipul dem kin talk man for believe.Man fit fraid salone man dem mot, walahi.
Subject: Re: REPLY: A TRIBUTE TO MUSA KHALIL SUMA (1942 - 2007)
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 13:30:11 03/09/07 ()
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My friend, yours are true words indeed. It seems that public service in SL comes with the risk of being tarred with the same brush as that which tars those whose unpatriotic deeds are as far away from one's modus operandi as can be.
I should know -- as many S/Leoneans know, I have been a victim of the vilest malice you could imagine.
Subject: TALK THE TALK AND WALK THE WALK
From: DIEHARD
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Date Posted: 02:07:15 03/09/07 ()
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Now that Chief Norman is dead, will Sengbe show up at the funeral?
Subject: Re: TALK THE TALK AND WALK THE WALK
From: Nope
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Date Posted: 04:33:49 03/09/07 ()
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He is another moron who talks the talk but cannot walk the walk. Neither would the vast majority of those who claim the cannibal king to be their lord and savior
Subject: LEC Power Plant Breaks Down
From: LEC
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Date Posted: 22:28:38 03/08/07 ()
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Copyright © 2007 - The Analyst Newspaper -
Thursday, March 8, 2007
LEC Power Plant Breaks Down
Management Terms It Technical Fault
The management of the Liberia Electricity Corporation (LEC), has expressed regrets specifically to its customers and the public in general about the power outage in Central Monrovia as a result of technical problem, which occurred on the Kru Town power plant on February 10, 2007.
• Harry Yuan - LEC MD
LEC Managing Director, Harry Yuan, and some executives of the Volta River Authority (VRA), told reporters yesterday at a news conference that the power outage is the result of technical and mechanical faults on the Kru Town plant, which has involuntarily stopped the supply of electricity to Central Monrovia. The Street lights in Central Monrovia have all been off since last month.
Mr. Yuan, flanked by VRA executives, narrated that he was in the United States attending the partnership conference when the problem developed.
He noted that the joint team of technicians and engineers has revealed that after several checks and tests run of the power generator, there was an initial problem with electronic control system.
“Accordingly, corrective measures, including the importation of spare parts from abroad were undertaken; however, problems continue to persist, despite the installation of the spare parts”, said Mr. Yuan.
In addition to the repair work being carried on by the engineers and technical team, he disclosed that a technical personnel from Cummins, the manufacturer of the generator based in the United Kingdom, is presently on standby to be flown to Monrovia in the instance that the problem still exist after the awaited components are refitted.
Mr. Yuan told reporters that the corporation is the custodian of the power generating plants and is responsible for the operations and maintenance of the generators but stressed that there is one year warranty on the generator saying, during this period, if there was a problem on the machine, Cummins, the manufacturer, and the Volta River Authority are responsible to provide spare parts and repair services.
In order to prevent the reoccurrence of the situation, the LEC Managing Director said the corporation is finalizing plans for the immediate installation of the power generator recently donated by the government of Libya.
According to him, the installation of the additional diesel unit would remedy the present situation and prevent future outage assuring, there will be two units to supply electricity to Central Monrovia from the Kru Town Plant with one being on the standby.
Giving a background of the Kru Town Power Plant, Mr. Yuan said it was constructed as part of the Emergency Power Project (EPP), which came into being as a result of multilateral agreement involving the Government of Liberia, the US government through USAID, the European Commission, and the Government of Ghana through the Volta River Authority.
“The EPP is a fulfillment of Pres. Johnson-Sirleaf’s election promise to restore electricity to parts of Monrovia”, said the LEC boss.
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Subject: Gov’t Disappointed Over Pledge Delivery, Crave Donor Confide
From: The Analyst
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Date Posted: 21:34:36 03/08/07 ()
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The Analyst
Gov’t Disappointed Over Pledge Delivery, Crave Donor Confidence, Trust
Albeit naively, many expected the Johnson-Sirleaf Administration to have walked away from the February Washington Partners’ Forum on Liberia prepared to launch the nation’s reconstruction program.
It is two months since the donor assurances and euphoria of Washington and a month away from the annual rainy season and the roads are yet to be reconditioned to say nothing about the fate of basic infrastructures.
Diplomats in Monrovia say it’s not that the donor community has abandoned Liberia but that it is only being meticulous about funds delivery.
But many say this is sheer fussiness and callousness and they, including the government of Liberia, are disappointed. “Isn’t that returning to square one?” is the reigning question amongst commentators in Monrovia.
The Analyst Staff Writer has been gauging the commentators’ question vis-à-vis the view of a top finance official of the Liberia government on the matter.
Columnist Klaus Brinkbäumer suggested in the Spiegel recently that Liberia is the World Bank’s current benchmark for Africa, but Finance Minister Antoinette Sayeh doubts that current international postures acknowledge that.
The topmost Liberian finance official made the statement during an hour-long radio talk show Monday this week in Monrovia.
The conjecture drew from the statement prompted skeptics to conclude that the nation may be going back to square one where donor pledges lagged far behind the actual delivery of funds or in a number of cases, hinged forever on suspicions of human rights violation.
She said Liberia was becoming increasingly “disappointed about the slow pace” at which international donors were delivering promises of assistance for the post-elections reconstruction of the country.
The World Bank occupies a crucial position within the ranks of the international donors that include governments and financial institutions.
• Finance Min. Dr. Sayeh
Besides the delays, according to Minister Sayeh, Liberia was also concerned that international donors were still reluctant to channel their economic assistance through the government.
She said they instead prefer channeling development and humanitarian funds through international NGOs and United Nations agencies perhaps because of Liberia’s legacy of years of bad governance which no longer existed.
"We think that it's very important that partners begin to trust us and give us the benefit of the doubt. We say to partners, start small," Sayeh said.
According her the international community made significant promises of economic assistance to Liberia over one year ago but that most of the pledges were yet to be fulfilled.
The World Bank, for example, has promised to give US$25M for the rebuilding of roads and bridges across the country, but the funds did not arrive on time, she noted.
"There were very strong endorsement of progress made by the government since its inception in January 2006 and powerful statement of support going forward," she said.
Government promised to launch the road reconstruction and rehabilitation projects of the nation’s reconstruction program, but Minister Sayeh said the launch of those projects have been delayed for lack of funds.
Road construction in Liberia is permissible for six months every year during the dry season which is due to give way to the rainy season in April this year. The projects which the minister say are being delayed were brought over from last year, according to reports.
Minister Sayeh said the delay is despite the fact that the Liberia government clearly articulated its concerns and needs at last month's international partnership forum in Washington, DC.
At that forum, the government informed forum delegates that it has made progress in its economic reform program in the first year of post-conflict governance.
According to her, the government achieved its objectives set before going to the Washington meeting, including reviewing progress made by Liberia on economic reform and examining remaining challenges, discussing financing requirements and mechanisms, and discussing and soliciting partners’ feedback on the government's strategic priorities.
Based on the progress made by Liberia prior to the forum, she said, the United States, Germany and Britain assured the Sirleaf Administration they would eventually forgive 100 percent of bilateral debts Liberia owed them in the context of HIPC (Heavily Indebted Poor Countries Initiative).
While that represented significant recognition of the government’s efforts even though here was still a long way to go, the impact of the huge debt waivers by the international community would not be immediately felt on the national budget but would bring long-term benefit the nation.
This is why Minister Sayeh said the recognition of the nation’s efforts and the promises of debt waiver opened new avenue for the country to have access to new international financial assistance and credit.
The nation will therefore begin servicing its domestic debt by March 15, 2007 as requirement for gaining financial access.
Minister Sayeh said out of a total US$913.81 domestic debt stock vetted, the finance ministry discovered that US$292.47 million of the domestic debt claims termed "bogus" were accrued between the years 2002-2005, US$317.47 million labeled "contestable" and US$303.87 million considered "valid".
Sayeh said those in this category claiming government owes them would be required to produce valid original receipts and other documents before payments would be made.
It may be recalled that Columnist Klaus Brinkbäumer’s recent article in the Speigal suggested that in its present position, Liberia will provide answers to the question of how important the World Bank can be in an age in which “China is cultivating non-stringed strategic partnership with African countries.”
He quoted the bank’s Director for West Africa, Mats Karlsson, as saying that Liberia is an opportunity of utmost historical importance.
“To solve the problem of poverty you have to be very focused on your work because the problems of poverty are so very different.
But without solving the problem of poverty, we will not solve the problems of the atmosphere, the forests, the oceans and energy, because you cannot explain how important the environment is to poor people in China and Africa if they are starving.
This is why we must think both globally and technically at the same time,” Karlsson was quoted as saying.
What seemed to be going on, Brinkbäumer says, is that the World Bank is essentially importing public spirit and attempting to teach maturity and self-sufficiency to villagers.
“Villages are given funds and allowed to determine which projects they wish to pursue and promote, even if building sorely needed schools is all too often ignored.
Another of the Bank's daunting tasks in Liberia is to develop the country's administration and a sense of responsibility among its bureaucrats,” he notes further.
But analysts at the time argued that with Monrovia, Liberia’s capital, still essentially plagued by high crime rates and a surrounding countryside that is even worse off, lacking clean water, electricity and roads more than four years after the formal cessation of hostilities, Liberia is hardly a place for the World Bank’s benchmark.
Those who doubted the argument at the time said Liberia’s traditional partners, mainly the U.S., could make up for the World Bank’s shortcoming, but a mentor and perhaps major contributor, the U.S., thinks no differently.
“This notion of a special relationship with the United States is certainly true. It doesn't mean that it's a relationship of dependency.
The Liberian people are plenty capable of trying to establish trade relationships, investment relationships that are going to be the basis for sustaining their economy. It's not going to come out of foreign assistance.
Too much of a concentration on foreign assistance is problematic,” said U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Jendayi Frazer.
How this statement is affecting the current delay in the delivery of donor pledges may not be known, but observers say the Sirleaf Administration needs to seek clarification rather than helplessly looking up to the heavens for manna to fall.
Whether that view is winning as the nation’s topmost finance official lament the state of donor non-cooperation is not yet clear, but the question remains, “Is it too far from the point of believing that the nation is going back to square one of international non-cooperation?”
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Subject: Re: Gov’t Disappointed Over Pledge Delivery, Crave Donor Confide
From: Special CUT
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Date Posted: 22:11:28 03/08/07 ()
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How ba. Dis govment nor belful yate?
Subject: HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY
From: David Mahdi Koroma
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Date Posted: 19:09:30 03/08/07 ()
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Happy Happy Birthday Big Brother Kabs Kanu and wife.I hope the Good Lord multiply your years,bless you and your family for the excellent job you are doing.All the best Big Brother.
Subject: Re: HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY
From: Dr. C. CURTIS-THOMAS
To: All
Date Posted: 09:41:50 03/09/07 ()
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Happy birthday. The Lord bless and keep you always. I appreciate all that you have done and continue to do for us.
Subject: Re: HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY
From: Forum Veteran
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Date Posted: 19:52:06 03/08/07 ()
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Kabs Kanu, congratulations.We appreciate your good work for Sierra Leone in the realm of news and information .You are the best. Long life and good wishes to you and family from all of us on the forum.
Subject: Re: HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY
From: CADMUS
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Date Posted: 06:50:21 03/09/07 ()
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Happy Birth Day Kabs Kanu and Family.....I know we have had our differences, especially in the early days when I thought the forum was a bit suspect in taking a whole lot of anti SLPP stance untill we decided to 'put our footdown'....but those were the days.... these days your neutrality cannot be questioned. Keep up the good work.
Subject: Re: HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 12:29:54 03/09/07 ()
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Could you have wished him a happy birthday without mentioning the SLPP or are you unable to carry on a conversation without any mention of the SLPP.
Try this for size
HAPPY BIRTHDAY KABBS"
see it is as simle as that
Subject: In case you are wondering
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 16:49:03 03/08/07 ()
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Do we live in a democracy or what!
Please read bellow:
skankycelebs.com and click on the video. Responsible ones control the underage.
Subject: ALIEU'S APC BROTHERS FIGHTING FOR NORMAN
From: J. LAMIN ISCANDRI
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Date Posted: 16:01:12 03/08/07 ()
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As Hinga Norman’s Body Arrives... APC Councilors, Kamajors Blast Freetown Mayor!
By Juliet Ansumana
Mar 8, 2007, 18:56 Email this article
As Hinga Norman’s body was being handed over to his relatives yesterday afternoon by the Special Court for Sierra Leone, APC Councillors, Civil Society Activists and former Kamajor fighters were roundly blasting the Freetown Mayor, His Worship Winstanley Bankole Johnson.
The citizens are upset over the refusal of the Bankole Johnson led Freetown City Council to grant civic recognition to the late Norman in the form of a civic funeral service. The City father has been quoted in the local tabloids that the issue of whether the late Norman was a hero or not was a debatable matter since he died under the custody of the Special Court as an indictee. He was further referred to haven stated that being that the issue is a divided one, a referendum should be instituted to determine whether indeed the late Chief Hinga Norman was a hero or not.
However, several angry Councillors from the All People’s Congress have lashed out at the Mayor claiming that his utterances might affect the Party’s chances at the upcoming polls. They told Awareness Times that contrary to the assertion by the Mayor, there are no written criteria as to who merits such a posthumous respect.
According to them, the late Chief was a suspect at the Special Court and not been found guilty of any of the charges levied against before his death. Charles Mambu of the Civil Society Movement also told Awareness Times that as far as the civil society is concerned Chief Norman was a hero considering the sacrifices he made in restoring Sierra Leone to constitutional order when it was torn apart by the AFRC and the RUF.
However, speaking also to Awareness Times yesterday, a daughter of the late Chief Hinga Norman, Juliet Norman told Awareness Times that the Norman family is not bothered whether the Freetown City Council accords their late father a civic funeral, noting that it is left with the Bo City Council to decide as such, since it is there that their father is to be buried.
"Whether he recognizes the heroism of Chief Hinga Norman or not is not for his consideration. What we believe and indeed the majority of Sierra Leoneans believe is that my father played a vital role for the preservation of the dignity of the state of Sierra Leone and that he was accused wrongly of the charges levied against him on to his death. We are also fully convinced that he did not die a convicted man," Juliet Norman opined.
Also speaking to Awareness Times were several former kamajor fighters. Foday Musa Samba a former Kamajor fighter in his remarks also maintained that late Chief Norman by all indications merits a civic funeral because of what he did for the state of Sierra Leone during the nine months interregnum. He accused Mayor Johnson of deliberately refusing to recognize this fact about the late Chief Norman, which he attributed to his "lack of understanding of what is means to sacrifice for the national good."
A source at the Freetown City Council who explained the processes of a civic funeral to this reporter says that it entails the full presence of the Mayor dressed in his full ceremonial regalia at each stage of the funeral arrangement. According to the source, it starts with the receiving of the corpse and laying it in state at a designated place by the City Council, where the public is allowed to pay their last respect to be followed by tributes, to be followed by any form of prayer service before the burial.
It would be recalled that just about a fortnight ago, President Alhaji Dr. Ahmed Tejan Kabbah in a statement to graduands at the Njala University College in Bo, confirmed the innocence of the late Chief Norman, noting that he was never convicted by the Special Court for Sierra Leone for any of the charges for he was standing trial. In that regard, the President had stated that Chief Norman was not a criminal and that he died innocent of all the charges levied against him by the Special Court.
However, another concern raised by the Mayor in his interview was in defence of President Kabbah. The Mayor pointed out that certain people concerned with the funeral arrangements for Chief Norman had showed gross disrespect towards President Kabbah in both words and action and so he did not want the Council to be drawn into any ensuing controversy during the funeral rites.
Subject: Re: ALIEU'S APC BROTHERS FIGHTING FOR NORMAN
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 19:11:17 03/08/07 ()
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I notice that the so called APC councillors that you mentioned in this article were not named. I however noticed names like Charles Mambu, Juliet Norman, Foday Musa Samba a former Kamajor fighter and you want ME to give your story any credibility? Youv'e got to be joking
Subject: Re: ALIEU'S APC BROTHERS FIGHTING FOR NORMAN
From: BUFORD HWY
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Date Posted: 06:39:23 03/09/07 ()
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Alieu,
It is an article taking from AWARENESSTIMES newspaper,and if you read the article it would not tell you WHOM and WHERE Juliet Ansumana the writer got her informations from.SALONE JOURDALIST.
Subject: Re: ALIEU'S APC BROTHERS FIGHTING FOR NORMAN
From: Alie Formeh Kamara
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Date Posted: 17:39:42 03/08/07 ()
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Why ask the Mayor? Why didn't they ask the Government of Sierra Leone? They could have asked for a State funeral and use it as an opportunity to blast Pa Kabba.
They lost an opportunity to get at Pa Kabba.
There only chance now is to ask the SLPP dominated Bo local council to honor him. I doubt that the Council members will agree without conditions.
All the farce will soon go away but the scars of hundreds of Sierra Leoneans will remain for a long time.
One thing that is clear is that members of prospective waring factions would be prosecuted if raping women, arming children, and killing innocent people are part of their strategies.
Subject: Re: ALIEU'S APC BROTHERS FIGHTING FOR NORMAN
From: okdok
To: All
Date Posted: 22:14:12 03/08/07 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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This is just what the mayor was talking about.My friend were you really a man for Norman when he was alive?This political propaganda cant help the country.I can recall that a lot of westerners,northners were agains kamajors not mentioning Norman but why is death just be comming political for both APC and PMDC?
Subject: Re: ALIEU'S APC BROTHERS FIGHTING FOR NORMAN
From: Factum Est
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Date Posted: 22:39:44 03/08/07 ()
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his death is becoming political not for the APC but rather for the SLPP and the PMDC. Get your facts right.
Subject: Re: ALIEU'S APC BROTHERS FIGHTING FOR NORMAN
From: ok dok
To: All
Date Posted: 23:17:32 03/08/07 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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How when everybody is just accusing the SLPP?ARE YOU HONEST?
Subject: Re: ALIEU'S APC BROTHERS FIGHTING FOR NORMAN
From: Factum Est
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Date Posted: 23:50:20 03/08/07 ()
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accusing the SLPP of what? Are you guys paranoid?
Subject: Re: ALIEU'S APC BROTHERS FIGHTING FOR NORMAN
From: OK DOK
To: All
Date Posted: 09:37:34 03/09/07 ()
Email Address: OKDOK@YAHOO.COM
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WHAT ARE YOU REALLY AFTER? NOTHING HAS HAPPENED TO SLPP.NORMAN WAS STILL SLPP EVENTHOUGH YOU GUYS ARE PLAYING POLITICS. CAN YOU PROVE ANYTHING TO SUPPORT?
Subject: Re: ALIEU'S APC BROTHERS FIGHTING FOR NORMAN
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Name me some strategies of war that are harmless.
Subject: INVITING SA KONDAY TO THE PODIUM !
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Posted by Sa Konday on March 08, 2007 at 10:43:05:
Ernest Koroma and Charles Margai are neck on neck according to most polls for the race to STATE HOUSE taken in recent days.
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Can you provide us with more specifics. We would like to see the ACTUAL poll result so as to determine who conducted the poll, what was the SAMPLE SIZE, HOW WAS THE SAMPLE OBTAINED, WAS THE SAMPLE REPRESENTATIVE, etc. Without such material, you are basically insulting our intelligence by making the aforementioned statement!
Subject: HAVE CHRISTIANS "LOST" THIS GOLDEN KEY OF FASTING?
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Date Posted: 15:46:07 03/08/07 ()
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Fasting , as i would define it, is "voluntarily abstaining from food for spiritual purposes." Sometimes people fast not only from food, but also from water; however, that is the exception rather then the rule.
Fasting seems unfamiliar and even frightening to many Christians, yet this attitude is strange. Fasting was regularly practiced by God's people throughout the Bible. Fasting is also an accepted part of most other major world religions, such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and Islam.
CAN A CHRISTIAN BE SUCCESSFUL AGAINST SATAN AND BY EXTENSION WALK A GOOD WALK WITHOUT FASTING?
I will explore this in a follow-up article.
Subject: Kenema's Lebanese Community Chairman Speaks
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Kenema's Lebanese Community Chairman Speaks
CONCORD TIMES
Mohamed Massaquoi and Mohamed Vandi 8/3/2007
Replenishing the country's economy should not be the responsibility of an individual but a collective role of both the private and public sectors' contributions.On the side of the private sector, the role of business owners should not be underestimated as they contribute not only by creating employment for the general populace but eminently to the country's economic growth. It is an historical fact that Lebanese community in Sierra Leone are contributing meaningfully to poverty alleviation and improving the country's battered economy. Their role should be commendable one way or the other.For this reason, Concord Times Communications took the time to approach the newly elected Chairman of the Lebanese Community in Kenema, Alhaji Alie Hassan. In this interview, Alie chatted about their relationship with the community and the contributions they have made for future development.
CT: Why did your membership decide to elect you as their chairman?
Alie Hassan: I was elected because of my diligent and steadfastness. If the people don't have confidence in you, there is no need for them to vest power in you as their leader. Over the years, I have been able to foster good relationship between the Lebanese Community and the local authority. During the civil conflict, there were lots of destructions which may take a long time to recover. The only Lebanese school in the eastern region was used as a base for the military and the Internally Displaced Persons (IDPs) who were forced to leave their homes. With my election as chairman of the Lebanese community, I have been able to mobilize support from the membership to reactivate the structures and to even put up additional buildings for the benefit of not only the Lebanese pupils but the entire community. We have strived hard to upgrade the school to international standard. We also provided recreational facilities that can accommodate more than 150 people for the community. We are doing it because with us interfacing with the community people, this will create more love and unity among us.
CT: Are you recognized by the relevant authorities as partners in development?
Alie Hassan : Yes. In fact, Lebanese are part of the various committees set up within the township to undertake developmental activities. We are part of the Police Partnership Board, Road Safety Committee, Chiefdom Development Committee and a host of others. They take us as brothers and sisters for the development of the township.
CT: How are you coping with trading activity in the region most especially in the diamond field which is difficult to come by?
Alie Hassan: It is good that you asked such question. One thing I want people to know is that Lebanese are not only involved in mining activities. We have those who trade in foodstuffs, building materials etc so that will not maintain that they are only engaged in mining activities. We know that business is a seasonal undertaking, there will be time when business will run smoothly while some difficulty may come along the line. But with the stability in the country we are now seen light at the end of the tunnel. The other aspect which I want to dilate on is our intervention in agriculture. We are closely working with farmers who produced Cocoa Coffee and other local commodities in Kailahun, Shegbema and other areas across the country. We have our Agents whom we give them money to support the farmers and at the of the day they bring their produce to us for sale. We ensure that we keep to international standard of the selling prize of these commodities.
CT: How do you see the country's economy?
Alie Hassan: It is encouraging. I am saying this because all of us know that the country has gone through difficult moment. It was not only the infrastructure that was damaged but the economy as well. Now we have started seeing improvement even though there are still difficulties around but we can praise ourselves for reaching this far. We only need to redouble our efforts to ensure that we build upon the growth and development of the country.
CT: How significant is July elections to you as business people?
Alie Hassan: Our expectation is that we want to see a free and fair election for the people of Sierra Leone . This will encourage investors to come and invest in the country. It will also help provide job facilities for the unemployed youths in the society.
Subject: LIKE HINGA NORMAN, ARE WE ABOUT TO SAY GOOD NIGHT TO GOLLEY?
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Date Posted: 15:26:17 03/08/07 ()
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GOLLEY'S SOLICITORS SAY HE IS SERIOULY SICK AT PADEMBA ROAD PRISONS
For immediate release
7th March 2007
Golley seriously ill
Omrie Golley, who is facing treason charges in Freetown, is “seriously ill”, according to Dr M.L. Conte-Coker, Senior Medical Officer at Pademba Road Prison where the former chairman of the Peace Council of the Revolutionary United Front is being detained.
Dr Conte-Coker, who conducted an examination on Mr Golley, said in a letter to the Director of Prisons and others dated March 1: “His general condition has been deteriorating continuously for the past 10 days up to the present time of physical examination.”
Mr Golley’s medical condition includes high blood pressure and chest pains. Medical experts say these could lead to a heart attack.
Given the “severe” nature of Mr Golley’s health, Dr Conte-Coker has referred him to his private doctor for admission at the privately owned Choithram Memorial Hospital in Freetown so that Mr Golley’s vital organs could be monitored every four hours.
However, Mr Golley’s UK lawyers, who are awaiting word from the authorities in Freetown, have pointed out that admission to the Choithram Memorial Hospital for monitoring is not the answer to their client’s serious health problems.
James Oury of Oury Clark Solicitors, representing Mr Golley points out: “It is important that Mr Golley obtains urgent tests relating to his heart, for which there are no available facilities in Sierra Leone right now. Failure to provide such treatment immediately could be life threatening.”
For further information, please contact James Oury at Oury Clark Solicitors on +44 (0)20 7067 4300.
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Subject: International Women's Day Observed in Bo
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Female Councillors and Gender Activists in the Southern and Eastern Provinces participated in a one-day seminar in Bo on Tuesday March 6 in support of International Women’s Day.
The seminar was mainly designed to discuss three draft Bills which are due to be laid before Parliament. The draft Bills are titled; ‘Domestic Violence’, ‘Registration of Customary Marriages and Divorces’ and ‘Intestate Succession’. They are basically aimed at eliminating gender violence in the Sierra Leonean Society,
The Seminar was organised by the International Women’s Day Planning Committee in collaboration with the Decentralisation Secretariat (DEC-SEC) of the Institutional Reform and Capacity Building Project and the International Rescue Committee under the theme: ‘End Impunity: Stop Violence against Women’. This is a modification of the global theme for this year which is: ‘Ending Impunity to Violence against Women.’
The Capacity Building Manager of DEC-SEC, Sarjoh Aziz Kamara admonished the female Councillors and other participants to seize the opportunity offered by such a seminar by meaningfully engaging in the process of making the bills become law.
Subject: Liberia: Rape, Gender Violence the Norm in Post-War Liberia
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Liberia: Rape, Gender Violence the Norm in Post-War Liberia
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March 7, 2007
Posted to the web March 8, 2007
Thalif Deen
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When the West African state of Liberia was torn apart by 14 years of civil war, the victims of the brutal insurgency included mostly women and children who were subject to rape and sexual violence.
"Not only are the terrible consequences of this still felt by many Liberian women today, but violence against women and rape continue unchecked," says a new study on Liberia by ActionAid, an international development agency based in South Africa.
Rape is currently the most serious crime plaguing Liberia, with an average of eight cases reported per week, and many more never reported to the authorities.
Titled "U.N. Peacekeeping in Liberia: International Engagement in Addressing Violence Against Women", the study has been released to coincide with a two-week session of the U.N. Commission on the Status of Women, which ends Friday.
Asked if isn't ironic that sexual abuse continues unabated in post-war Liberia, the first African country with a female head of state, Ernest Gaie, ActionAid country director, told IPS: "The election of President Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf (in 2005) has given women's rights an unprecedented profile and momentum in Liberia and the president is personally committed to tackling rape and violence against women."
However, he said, Liberia's political system, government institutions and society have not been transformed overnight and the country is still emerging from 14 years of civil war.
Still, important steps have been taken, such as the introduction of a new rape law the day before the president's inauguration.
"But implementing these mean transforming the dysfunctional justice system. And to do this the government needs significant political and financial support from the international community," Gaie added.
Liberia's violent civil war was triggered by the National Patriotic Front, a rebel group headed by Charles Taylor, a former Liberian president, who is awaiting trial in The Hague on charges of war crimes.
Despite the signing of the Comprehensive Peace Agreement by the warring parties three and a half years ago, "women continue to be dehumanised in many ways, and are often deprived of their universal and interdependent rights," Gaie said.
Since September 2003, the 15,200-strong U.N. Mission in Liberia (UNMIL) has been overseeing peacekeeping operations in the country; monitoring a ceasefire agreement; and supporting humanitarian and human tights activities in the country.
The mandate of UNMIL ends Mar. 31. But the ActionAid study recommends that UNMIL's mandate be extended for at least a year in order to "develop regional security mechanisms, with the intention of keeping an effective military presence in the country for several more years."
"The Security Council should note that Liberia remains in a fragile state and should call on the international community to provide generous funds for long-term poverty reduction, peace building and promotion of just and democratic governance," the report said.
The study also said that UNMIL can and has played a significant role in tackling violence against women.
It also points out that UNMIL has been essential in restoring stability, state authority and the rule of law, and as such, has directly contributed to stemming rape and protecting women.
The U.N. mission has also helped establish "an effective criminal justice system to end impunity, deter and punish rape and provide a modicum of justice for survivors."
A report by the U.N. Security Council late last year said that despite considerable overall improvement, the security situation in Liberia "remains fragile and continues to be anchored on the presence of UNMIL, as the new police service is still in its formative stages and the recruitment for the new armed forces is just beginning."
Continued efforts are required to manage the internal potential threats to stability, in particular possible violent reactions from elements that stand to lose from the government's far-reaching reform programme, disgruntled ex-combatants, former members of the armed forces and police service, and frustrated unemployed youth.
Gaie said that rape will not be eliminated in a year or even during Sirleaf-Johnson's period in office or UNMIL's lifetime.
"But after 14 years of civil war, Liberia's women, with support of the new president and the international community are taking crucial steps towards eradicating this scourge," he added.
Alan Doss, the U.N. Special Representative for Liberia, told reporters last month Sirleaf-Johnson has "done a terrific job by anybody's standards."
There was a sense she was in charge, but she has been in office for just one year out of a five-year term, so it was still early" to expect more from her, he added.
Asked if it was prudent to assign peacekeepers to stop the violence against women in Liberia, particularly at a time when U.N. peacekeepers are being increasingly accused of rape and sexual abuse in various peacekeeping missions overseas, Gaie told IPS: "Rape and sexual abuse by U.N. peacekeepers is a gross violation of their duty to protect the local population and must be urgently tackled."
Sexual abuse however is not just committed by the United Nations, but also by aid workers and local people, often in positions of authority, such as teachers.
It is therefore something that all actors must tackle together and the U.N.'s "zero tolerance" policy is welcomed and should be built on.
In Liberia only two cases of rape by U.N. personnel have been reported compared with eight cases per week across the country. The United Nations, in particular, can contribute significantly to tackling rape through supporting the local police and court system.
Furthermore, UNMIL's role in bringing stability to Liberia, and therefore ending widespread rape during the war, cannot be underestimated, Gaie added.
Subject: Liberia: Editor Receives Death Threats
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March 8, 2007
Posted to the web March 8, 2007
IFJ Urges Liberian Government to Lift Ban on Newspaper after Sex Scandal
The International Federation of Journalists (IFJ) today called on the Liberian authorities to lift a one-year revocation of the license of private newspaper The Independent after it published explicit photographs of a minister engaged in sexual acts with two women.
After the publication of the pictures, the newspaper's editor Sam Dean received death threats.
"We call on the government to lift the arbitrary ban on The Independent and to let the legal system decide if any punishment is necessary," said Gabriel Baglo, Director of the IFJ Africa Office. "The government's decision is entirely disproportionate and seems to be simply an act of a vengeance. We are also calling for the end of threats to Sam Dean."
In its February 20 and February 27 editions, The Independent published explicit photographs showing Presidential Affairs Minister Willis Knuckles engaged in sexual acts with two women. The minister resigned and apologised after their publication.
After the photos were published, the government revoked the license of the newspaper for one year and the police closed its offices for 48 hours. The newspaper's lawyers filed an appeal with the Supreme Court, which is expected to issue a decision on the shut down next week.
According to reports, the editor of The Independent is currently in hiding after he received death threats. The Press Union of Liberia (PUL) said that it will resist any attempt by the government to exact revenge through mob justice against the paper.
The IFJ supports the PUL's move to punish the ethical misconduct of its members in this issue. As a member institution, The Independent was suspended for three months for breaking the Union's code of ethics and conduct by publishing the photos.
In a related case, the PUL fined Radio Veritas 2,500 Liberian Dollars (40 euros) for "broadcasting the vivid descr1ption of the obscene material."
The IFJ represents over 500,000 journalists in more than 115 countries.
Subject: Response to Alieu - Re: Hinga Norman
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Date Posted: 13:59:22 03/08/07 ()
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Alieu,
I have come to the conclusion that engaging you in a debate about Hinga Norman and on the broader issue of "partisan" vs nationalist, will be a waste of my time.
You have made some wild allegations about the late Pa Norman, and have called him a war criminal and cannibal among other things. I am not going to dignify you insulting this late man by engaging you in a debate about him.
I happen to hold Pa. Norman and others who stood up to the rebels and sobels in high esteem. I am grateful for the peace they helped bring to Sa. Lone. Without them, we will not be talking about democratic elections in our homeland.
You wil not hear from me on this subject again.
Have a nice day
Subject: Re: Response to Alieu - Re: Hinga Norman
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you coped out on the debate my dear brother. I was looking forward to give Alieu sone hell but now I know why you keft the piece unresponded to for so long. It was clear that you were whipped. I personally lost my family home to the kamajors in Koribondo and wish to make it clear that not all mendes stand by your positions. you have sat comfortably in the US eating frozen chicken while we still chase our chicken dinners. You dont feel our pain because you were not ther. most of what alieu says I can identify with. Your attacks on him are baseless and an attempot to cover the truth. why dont you address the issues of why is it that so many of our peopl were slaughtered by the kamajors? was it right? do you deny that it happened? what is the basis of such denial? were you there? I have a scar on my calf where I was stabbed by a broken tree branch while running away from the kamajors at night time in the bush. show me your war scars.
Subject: Re: Response to Alieu - Re: Hinga Norman
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Were these so-called "people" killed by the kamajors during the war in Koribondo "friend or foe"? And you, yourself, were you a rebel, sobel, or an innocent victim running away from the kamajors? Tell the truth now, lavahun.
Subject: Re: Response to Alieu - Re: Hinga Norman
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Friend or foe/ Are ordinary civilians to chhose sides. what I know is that none of these people who were killed in koribondo were armed combattants. You can make the conclusions that you want to make now. As for me I do not involve myself in politics although nearly allof my family members are staunch slpp. I have never been a member of any armed forces, never held a gun in my life and all I was doing then was being a very good student at ckc.
What I know is what I am going to tell and it is that the kamajors killed my people.
Subject: Why State House website lacking news about Hinga Norman?
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I have read stories from SLPP supporters arguing that Hinga Norman did not leave their party.
Will SLPP supporters explain the reasons why State House website and the SLPP secretariat do not pay tributes to the a man who fought to keep the party in power?
I am baffled to see no news about the man in those two sites.
Subject: Re: Why State House website lacking news about Hinga Norman?
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Is this another political dog talk?Did you not read in cocorioko many times that the family need SLPP out of it?
Subject: Re: Why State House website lacking news about Hinga Norman?
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Date Posted: 19:41:15 03/08/07 ()
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Because he is an INDICTED WAR CRIMINAL DUMMY
Subject: Re: Why State House website lacking news about Hinga Norman?
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then why is Kabbah, the indicted criminal (SLPMB, 1967) featured on the same website?
Subject: For KLA more on the Afrikkan Revolution
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http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/showthread.php?p=111039
Subject: Re: For KLA more on the Afrikkan Revolution
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AI,
Thanks for the link.The execution of true Pan-Afrikanism is really coming to its own.
I am hoping that Salone politicians grasp the Importance of this Great Ideal.
TSTM
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Subject: ELECTION PROGNOSIS - ERNEST and CHARLES NECK on NECK..
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Ernest Koroma and Charles Margai are neck on neck according to most polls for the race to STATE HOUSE taken in recent days.
Berewa and his SLPP is struggling behind by a very wide margin. That was why he was trying by all means to rig the voters registeration process.
If even he does would not have great significance on the polls.
Sierraleoneans are ready for change and change is going to come om July 28 2007.
NATIN NOR GO STOP THIS CHANGE.
AMEN!!
Subject: Re: ELECTION PROGNOSIS - ERNEST and CHARLES NECK on NECK..
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Are you among the numbers that makes them neck to neck?SLPP has no need to rig election just waite and see.
Subject: Kabbah tells citizens not to depend on Government
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Kabbah tells citizens not to depend on Government.
- Wednesday 7 March 2007.
PATRITIC VANGUARD
By Alpha Rashid Jalloh, Freetown, Sierra Leone.
In the midst of the prevalent poverty and hardship that characterise post-war Sierra Leone, President Ahmad Tejan Kabbah says ‘people should not depend on government’ for all development ventures.
Speaking recently to the people of Kissy in the East of Freetown at the opening of a new school for disadvantaged children, he said the people should embark on development ventures on their own volition without government intervention. He urged the people of Kissy to have a selfless attitude and to contribute to nation-building, rather than depend solely on government.
The country is currently characterised by inadequacies and has been placed at least twice on the lowest rung of the world’s human development ladder. Seventy percent of the country’s 4.9 million people are below the poverty line, that is, live on less than one dollar a day— a fact that has been attested by the Vice President Solomon Berewa. Berewa is presidential candidate for the Sierra Leone People’s Party.
The literacy percentage in Sierra Leone has jumped in the post-war era from 20% to 35 % , a feat which has been attributed to the SABABU Education Project through which each district in the country has been made to have access to education by constructing schools in all of them.
The President appealed to parents to encourage their children to take education seriously, noting that it(education) is an important tool in accelerating development.
The eight -classroom Marie Vandi community Primary School was constructed by the National Commission for Social Action (NaCSA), the country’s development agency
President Kabbah expressed his admiration for the proprietress Madam Marie Vandi , adding that government decided to intervene so as to accommodate the large number of students and improve the learning environment.
Vice President Solomon Berewa who is trying hard to step into president Kabbah’s shoes after the July 2007 elections, described the founder Madam Marie Vandi as a woman of substance who had not only contributed to the development of her community, but had ‘opened the door to education in her community’.
NaCSA commissioner Kanja Sesay maintained that the school’s construction was a ‘further manifestation of government’s determination to put education at the heart of its development agenda’.
The minister of Education, Science and Technology Dr. Alpha Wurie said he was happy ‘to be part of history in celebrating a generation change’, noting that it was now time for Sierra Leoneans to consider education as a key element to development .
Subject: KABBA'S BOTOBATA AGAIN!!
From: Sa Konday
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Is Tejan Kabba not yet tired of saying all kinds of BOTOBATA?
How can a president for god's sake say to his people that they should not depend on their government?
Is that his legacy for ruling Sierra Leone for two terms?
What a pity for the people of Sierra Leone.
He is just exposing himself and letting the people know that he was just idling for all these years and running after those BIG......WAY........SE.
This rightly explains why his number two man BEREWA will never be given the chance to rule Sierra Leone.
He his a trait of the same system because birds of the same feather flock together.
BO, LEH TEJAN KABBA LEHF WE YAH.
Subject: Re: SELF HELP ANOTHER APC IDEA
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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It was the APC that ushered in the idea of self help into national politics and I am sure glad that in the waning months of the Kabba presidency he has decided to embrace that idea of self help.
Subject: Re: SELF HELP ANOTHER APC IDEA
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Alieu,
When APC talked about self-help, they meant help yourself to the country's money, assets, property, etc. etc. Some APC politicians used to joke about it, and it was really not funny.
I do not believe that Pa Kabbah has the same interpretation in mind
Subject: Re: SELF HELP ANOTHER APC IDEA
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One thing about you, you can be depended on to never understand anything you read.
Subject: Re: SELF HELP ANOTHER APC IDEA
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Alieu,
Why don't you use your name in lamblasting/abusing me?
You stated that APC introduced "Self Help". I explained to all what APC meant by "Self Help". My comment about what APC politicians felt self help meant (during their rule) is a fact and not speculation.
What Pa Kabbah is talking baout or embracing is not what APC introduced. DO NOT CONFUSE THE TWO.
Subject: Re: SELF HELP ANOTHER APC IDEA
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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I am NOT unintelligent man. If I had a response to your piece it would have been under my own damn name and nothing else. I didnt see anything worthy of a response in your piece and thas why I did not respond to it.
Subject: Ex Sierra Leone militia leader to get hero's burial
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Ex Sierra Leone militia leader to get hero's burial
Thu Mar 8, 2007