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Date Posted: 12:48:36 02/28/07 ()
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Some of these photographs show assets acquired by Makeni City Council recently
Subject: Liberia: Govt Bans Newspaper for One Year
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Liberia: Govt Bans Newspaper for One Year
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The Inquirer (Monrovia)
February 28, 2007
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Officers of the Liberian National Police, yesterday sealed up+ the offices of The Independent Newspaper on Buchanan Street in implementing a directive from the Ministry of Information to close down the offices of the paper.
The police swiftly moved in on the paper's offices to have it closed down after the Minister of Information, Dr. Lawrence Bropleh, told a news conference that his Ministry is revoking the paper's accreditation for one year.
Less than an hour following the Minister's pronouncement, over a dozen police officers swiftly moved to the paper's offices and locked up the main entrance to the offices using a chain and locks.
All of the paper's equipment and other office materials were in the offices when the police sealed it up.
At the time the police was carrying out the exercise, its Inspector General, Col. Beatrice Munnah Sieh, was seen around the vicinity of the paper in her vehicle which was parked in front of the Ministry of Defense, less than 12 yards away from the offices of the Independent Newspaper.
Inspector General Sieh was not seen participating in the exercise, but her vehicle, which, was guarded by her body- guards later drove off the scene after the police had completed their mission.
Information Minister, Dr. Lawrence Bropleh, told the news conference at the Information Ministry that government's action to close down the paper's offices, because it had violated the Liberian constitution by publishing a porno photo, thereby violating the Press Union of Liberia code of ethics and the rules that govern the accreditation process for newspaper by his Ministry.
Minister Bropleh was reacting to a banner page headline story published by the paper in its edition under the headline, "More sex photos missing at Knuckles' Home-As He Resigns."
Speaking further, Minister Bropleh said that the action by government is not about individuals or just to get at the paper as some may think, but it is all about setting standards and to serve as a deterrent to others who may want to violate the law by publishing such porno photo.
Minister Bropleh then urged the public not to do business with The Independent Newspaper stressing, " Right now, the license of the Independent has been revoked."
Asked whether the Ministry consulted the Press Union of Liberia before taking action against the paper, Minister Bropleh said indeed the PUL was contacted and the leadership expressed shock over the publication, which appeared in the paper.
On whether action would also be instituted against the printing press that printed the paper edition, Minister Bropleh said this was not possible because as he put it, The Independent failed to indicate in its imprint, which printing press printed its edition.
He, however, said the printing press, as business institutions in the country, must be responsible in their activities in conforming to the laws.
The President of the Press Union of Liberia (PUL), Mr. George Barpeen who was present at the news conference, said the Union would convene a meeting to come out with a position on the action of the government.
In its official reaction according to a statement it issued, the PUL condemned the arbitrary closure of the paper by government security forces.
The PUL said the seizure of the paper's offices without court order is a police action and calls on the government to unlock the paper's offices and submit to the rule of law process.
According to the statement, the PUL said while it acknowledges the reckless ethical misconduct of the paper, it will resist any attempt by government to institute mob justice against the paper.
The PUL challenged the Liberian leader, President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf not to allow her government to slide into repression but to give chance to the judiciary process to function if there has been a violation by the paper.
"We will be interested in following a logical conclusion for court actions against any member of the press so as to serve as a precedent for others," the statement said.
The PUL called on the UN Special Representative, Alan Doss and Democratic Crusaders not to let this misuse of power to pass unnoticed.
In a related development, the Liberia Center for Media Studies and Peace Building (CEMESP) and the Liberia Media Center say, it has observed with grave regrets and deplore in the fiercest terms the action of the government to revoke the accreditation of the paper.
The groups called on the government to over turn the decision stressing that it is a violation of three portions of the Liberian constitution citing Article 15, section a, b, and e of the constitution, which decried any withdrawal of rights and privileges unless as an outcome of a hearing before a court of competent jurisdiction.
In separate letters they addressed to the Minister of Information, the two media groups said while they would not condone the display of pornography, they however recognize the rights of individuals to freely express themselves on issues, as they see fit.
Subject: TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YAYA FANUSIE IS UP TO !!
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Posted by Yaya Fanusie on February 28, 2007 at 11:17:26:
In Reply to: Chief Sam Hinga Norman - For Messrs. Iscandari & Moinina posted by John E. Leigh on February 28, 2007 at 10:13:56:
Mr. John Leigh:
Are you a member of the Poro Society?
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: THESE LEOPARDS (A.P.C. & S.L.P.P.) WILL NEVER TRANSFORM
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American Ambassador condemns Kamakwie’s Political Intolerance in Sierra Leone
By John Mansaray
Feb 27, 2007, 18:28
United States of America (USA) Ambassador to Sierra Leone, His Excellency Thomas N. Hull, has said in Freetown that, the display of some amount of political intolerance in Kamakwie recently by two of the major political parties in the country was "unacceptable" because it leads to "political violence". Ambassador Hull went on to state that during the coming electoral campaign, there must be a level playing field for all parties to present their views to the people everywhere in the country.
His Excellency Ambassador Thomas Hull, made the remarks on Saturday 24th February 2007 at the launching of the voter registration awareness campaign held at the Victoria Park in Freetown. He called on all and sundry of voting age to come out and register so that come that day they will be able to vote for the government they think can deliver good governance in the country. He went further to encourage eligible Sierra Leoneans to come out starting 26th February in their thousands to kick start the voter registration of them that will vote on that day.
The Ambassador said also that, the world will watch Sierra Leone’s electoral process to ascertain its progress in democracy building. He also said that the international community would closely observe the openness of the registration, the ensuing campaigns, the voter turnout and the transparency of the ballot counting.
"If the numbers of voters are lower than expected, because you did not register to vote, you will not only have lost an oppournuity to express yourselves politically, but Sierra Leone’s reputation as a democracy will be diminished." Mr. Hull noted.
Ambassador Hull also warned that, "if the political party leaders do not restrain their supporters and followers and if political intimidation is not rejected, then the democracy and the electoral process will be compromised."
Chairperson of the National Electoral Commission (NEC) Dr. Christiana Thorpe, delivering her keynote address, thanked both the organizers and the sponsors of the event. Dr. Thorpe, went on to state that the issue of voter registration is an integral part of the electoral process because according to her, people must know that it is only when people register that they will able to vote for a change.
The NEC boss disclosed that the Commission based on the census figures, they are expecting to register two million, seven hundred thousand (2,700,000) people who should participate in the electoral process this year. She also informed that where one registers is where they will have to cast their vote.
Representatives from various organizations including the international community, the European Union (EU) United Kingdom, and Civil Society Organizations have called for Sierra Leoneans to come out in millions and register to decide their political fate on July 28th 2007.
I THOUGHT VIOLENCE WAS UNIQUE TO THE RUF.
Those who forget HISTORY ARE CONDEMNED TO REPEAT IT (St. Thomas Aquino)
A PEOPLE WITHOUT A KNOWLEDGE OF THEIR HISTORY IS LIKE A TREE WITHOUT ROOTS (Marcus Garvey).
Subject: Chief Sam Hinga Norman - For Messrs. Iscandari & Moinina
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 10:13:56 02/28/07 ()
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Dear Al & Al:
You are both dead wrong if you believe that Chief Norman ever defected to the PMDC. He never did.
He died a committed member of the SLPP. Flunky PMDC is merely playing childish schoolboy pranks. They need to play pranks as they have no one realiable within. The group is led by a Form Four Flunky drop out who never completed high school. You both completed high school even if one or both funked on the way. But each of you persevered to a successful completion.
Your flunky idiot is surrounded by Mr. Tombo Dumbo Remedial Bangucrooks Fulumunku who is rumored to be his stupid running mate - that dunce dingbat idiot!
Next in the thin dumbo heirachy is a disbarred, disrobed and defrocked ex-lawyer who stole from his poor clients and then rushed home because he is all done in America and now believes he can fool us and get away with it. This crook can't function in a civilized country. Yet he is a big shot in the dunce group of chops lickers and remedials!
My staying away from the forum has nothing to do with any purported defection by Sam Norman - as you both supposed. I am merely traveling inside Sierra Leone. Presently, I am spending time with the Norman Family and making preparations for a visit to Sam Norman's much beloved Mongheri, headquaters of Valunia Chiefdom, Bo Distict.
Incidentally, Mrs. Norman has told all upstart political groups to please keep politics away from her family's sorrows and to stop attempts at profiting from her family's terrible tragedy. Good manners and civilized conduct demand nothing less.
We should take her request to heart; mourn the premature death of a much-loved hero and put ourselves into the shoes of his surviving family and help them rather than seek to capitalize on his unfortunate demise and utter mistreatment for one-manic political profit.
For your information, SLPP did nothing wrong to Chief Norman. In fact, months before he died, Chief Norman recognized this fact and issued a detail statement through his attorney of record to make it clear to the whole country that he could never hold the SLPP responsible for his unfortunate situation.
The Normans are not the only SLPPers suffering. I am a member of the SLPP. I spent a chunk of my family's money to reverse the AFRC coup and have the elected government re-instated. We were highly successful in getting this job done. The first ever in Africa.
Yet the Government has still not paid me the $90,000. balance - 10 years after those events.
Others beside Chief Norman and myself are suffering terribly. It is the government that is punishing us, NOT the SLPP. The SLPP is itself suffering terribly but has begun to make much needed reforms.
Some flunky political groupings of dunces, harlot politicians and remedials might be seeking to exploit the terrible suffering of another but Sierra Leoneans are not stupid. They know that the SLPP is suffering from the misdeeds imposed by unSLPP others.
This same idiot flunky group tried to recruit me by directly promising me as their first other of business upon victory, the immediate payment of my money! They are fools as my motive for public service has never been and will never be pecuniary. And they are not goping to win!
Fluinkies and junior tribalists should stop licking their chops for they will gain nothing from these sad and unfortunate events if they continue to rely on exploiting them for one-manic dynastic benefits.
Instead, they are better off with good manners, good people and a good plan, not the misfortunes of others.
Thank you for your attention. JL
Subject: Re: Chief Sam Hinga Norman - For Messrs. Iscandari & Moinina
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 11:17:26 02/28/07 ()
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Mr. John Leigh:
Are you a member of the Poro Society?
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: Chief Sam Hinga Norman - For Messrs. Iscandari & Moinina
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 11:55:08 02/28/07 ()
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Is that any of your business yayah? Its a secret society and its membership is supposed to be secret. What is the importance of his being a member of the society to the debate.
His membership or non membership is a non issue
Subject: Re: Chief Sam Hinga Norman - For Messrs. Iscandari & Moinina
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Date Posted: 10:53:06 02/28/07 ()
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Sam Foray aid that any SLPP member found within the premisies of the Norman's will have him/herself to blame for anything that will happen.
I wonder why they have not yet killed John leigh and others who are sympathising with mammy Norman. Sam Foray is definitely a liar and a trouble-maker. This man must be exposed for what he is. A big sham.
Subject: Re: Chief Sam Hinga Norman - For Messrs. Iscandari & Moinina
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There are two sides to a story. It remains to be seen who is lying -Forey or Leigh. So do not be hasty in your conclusion.
Subject: Re: Chief Sam Hinga Norman - For Messrs. Iscandari & Moinina
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"Yet the Government has still not paid me the $90,000. balance - 10 years after those events."
John Leigh, as a lawyer, you are expected to know that a contract against public policy (such as bribing the SLPP for a position in the public service of Sa Lon) is null and void, ab initio.
So, you should know that a debt resulting from a bribery scheme is not a legal debt, whether it is "owed" by the SLPP or anyone else.
Subject: Re: Chief Sam Hinga Norman - For Messrs. Iscandari & Moinina
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 10:36:58 02/28/07 ()
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This is more directed to Moinina than me John. Moinina is the one who belongs to that upstart party full of:
"Mr. Tombo Dumbo Remedial Bangucrooks Fulumunku who is rumored to be his stupid running mate - that dunce dingbat idiot! Next in the thin dumbo heirachy is a disbarred, disrobed and defrocked ex-lawyer who stole from his poor clients and then rushed home because he is all done in America and now believes he can fool us and get away with it. This crook can't function in a civilized country. Yet he is a big shot in the dunce group of chops lickers and remedials!"
Me I belong to the APC the only party that has given ALL sierra leoneans a chance to fully participate in the political process regardless of tribe and other affiliations. The only party where ex members of the SLPP who became mebers of the party, rose to the level of the vice president in sierra leone. Lets se you in the SLPP match that.
On the issue of whether or not Norman had moved to that "alphabet soup" party, thats for you and the SLPP to worry about, not our APC. As far as we are concerned we are campaigning like this event never occurred because frankly we dont give a damn whether Norman is PNDC or SLPP, what we do know is that all those masquerading as PMDC today are going really disgruntled SLPP who would run back to the shade of the Torkpoi as soon as the sun starts to cast its brilliant rays.
So hows freetown? Becareful now on that Bo road which the SLPP has still not seen fit to start re constructing. I am sure that when you are in Bo and enjoying much more electricty than you are in Freetown you will remember the architects of that luxury the APC which made it possible that the Bo Kenema corridor enjoys more stable electricty than many other places in sierra leone.
And while you are in Freetown please dont forget to visit my village YELE where I started my primary education at RC school. But be mindful that in my village Yele, they do not tolerate any talk about SLPP there it is taboo and I dont at you to become victimised by our favorite spirit there "ahn maneke" otherwise known as the "cut nose deil".
Otherwise enjoy your stay and in case Moinina that troublesome fellow does not get it I will once again repeat it here that he belongs to that Alphabet soup political party twhose leader is surrounded by:
"Mr. Tombo Dumbo Remedial Bangucrooks Fulumunku who is rumored to be his stupid running mate - that dunce dingbat idiot! Next in the thin dumbo heirachy is a disbarred, disrobed and defrocked ex-lawyer who stole from his poor clients and then rushed home because he is all done in America and now believes he can fool us and get away with it. This crook can't function in a civilized country. Yet he is a big shot in the dunce group of chops lickers and remedials!
Get that Moinina? Man John you are the best. Wish my people, ALL of my people well.
Subject: Re: Chief Sam Hinga Norman - For Messrs. Iscandari & Moinina
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Date Posted: 10:41:44 02/28/07 ()
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"Becareful now on that Bo road which the SLPP has still not seen fit to start re constructing. I am sure that when you are in Bo and enjoying much more electricty than you are in Freetown you will remember the architects of that luxury the APC which made it possible that the Bo Kenema corridor enjoys more stable electricty than many other places in sierra leone."
Salocost is working 24/7 on that road. It now takes less than 3 hours to travel to Bo from Freetown. The entire strenct of road is presently under reconstruction by Salcost. Also the Bo-Kenema Road, Makeni-Matotoka road, Kenema-Kailahun-Koindu road will start by the ned of the year. Contracts have been signed. The Matotoka-Kono road studies and design have been completed and BADEA and African Development Bank will soon set up a fund to kick start the reconstructionof this major highway.
Subject: Juan the smuggler
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Juan the Smuggler
Juan comes up to the Mexican border on his bicycle. He has two large bags over his shoulders. A guard stops him and says, "What's in the bags?"
"Sand," answered Juan.
The guard says, "We'll just see about that. Get off the bike."
The guard takes the bags and rips them apart; he empties them out and finds nothing in them but sand. He detains Juan overnight and has the sand analyzed, only to discover that there is nothing but pure sand in the bags. The guard releases Juan, puts the sand into new bags, lifts them onto the man's shoulders and lets him cross the border.
A week later, the same thing happens. The guard asks, "What have you got?"
"Sand," says Juan.
The guard does his thorough examination and discovers that the bags contain nothing but sand. He gives the sand back to Juan, and Juan crosses the border on his bicycle.
This sequence of events repeats every day for three years. Then one day, Juan doesn't show up. The guard meets up with him in a cantina in Mexico.
"Hey, buddy," the guard says, "I know you're smuggling something. It's driving me crazy. It's all I think about. I can't sleep. Just between you and me, what are you smuggling?"
"Bicycles," Juan says.
Subject: Doe, Taylor Redux? Liberian Government Shuts Down Independen
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Doe, Taylor Redux? Liberian Government Shuts Down Independent Newspaper
02/27/07 - FPA Staff Report
Monrovia – In a sign of a revisit to Liberia’s evil past, the Liberian government on Tuesday shut down The Independent newspaper a week after the newspaper carried the photograph of former Minister of State for Presidential Affairs Willis Knuckles involved in a sex threesome with two Liberian women.
Independent Publisher Sam O Dean
The newspaper’s closure has already drawn stern criticisms from the Press Union of Liberia and other media institutions, who have chastised the Liberia National Police for what they considered arbitrary closure of the Independent newspaper.
The Independent publishes two days a week, Tuesdays and Fridays.
Sam O’ Dean, the Managing Editor of The Independent, who had vowed to continue publishing last week was not available for comments Monday as FrontPageAfrica has gathered that he is still in hiding. Last week, vowed not to return until he gets a clearer picture of the situation.
Observer, Analyst Endured Closures Under Doe, Taylor
The newspaper’s closure Tuesday follows a pattern set by previous administrations. In 2002, during the early morning hours of April 25, police, acting under the directives of dictator Charles Taylor, shut down The Analyst newspaper and ransacked the publication's offices. At the time, police chief Paul Mulbah said the ban was permanent and refused to give reasons for the closure. "The paper is closed and will not print again. This is a government order," Mulbah said at the time.
Daily Observer publisher Kenneth Y. Best
Analyst publisher Stanley Seakor
The Analyst had published an April 25 edition containing an interview with Liberian human rights lawyer Tiawan Gongloe, now solicitor, who had been arrested the previous day for making statements that allegedly "undermined the government" and were "inimical to state security." In that same issue, the regular column "Memo to the President" analyzed Taylor's alleged shortcomings and those of previous Liberian heads of state. It was the second time, that year that The Analyst had been shut down. On February 12, police ordered the newspaper to cease publishing after it ran articles criticizing the state of emergency that Your Excellency declared on February 8. The suspension was lifted a week later.
During the 1980s, the Independent Daily Observer, founded by Kenneth Best, endured numerous closures and arrests under another dictator Samuel Doe.
One month after the paper started, Minister of Justice Chea Cheapoo summoned Best. Before running television cameras, Cheapoo threatened to hunt down the journalist and shoot him if the Daily Observer published another story that was critical of the Minister. Upon Cheapoo’s insistence, the incident was aired on television to serve as a warning to the country’s already-terrified citizens.
Two months later Doe ordered the Daily Observer shut down and its entire staff, in addition to Best and his wife, arrested for publishing three letters from students calling on the government to lift the ban on a student leader, Conmany B. Wesseh.
Best was arrested on two more occasions. The Daily Observer was ordered closed down four more times — once for a period of two years — for such offenses as “presenting stories in a negative manner, misreporting events in the country or criticizing the state,” and it was twice the target of arson attacks.
The Daily Observer’s facilities were burned to the ground in 1990, and Best and his family were exiled in Banjul, The Gambia, where he soon established that country’s first daily, also called the Observer. The Observer resumed publication shortly before last October general elections.
Efforts to reach police director Munah Sieh and Information Minister Lawrence Bropleh Tuesday proved futile and it is unclear whether the police action had the authorization of a court or prosecutors office.
Press Union Penalized Independent
Police Director Munah Sieh
Last week, the paper’s editor, Dean said plainclothes men in unmarked vehicle visited his home last week and requested that he joined them for inquiries at the LNP headquarters, but he refused. “I refused to join them because they were not properly identified as such I couldn’t take the risk,” he said.
Following the publication, police authorities said The Independent had violated Penal Code of Liberia which prohibits the dissemination of obscene materials without minimizing the risk of exposure to children less than 16 years.
In a press release, the PUL says it is suspending for three months, the membership of The Independent newspaper for its publication of an obscene photograph. Press Union of Liberia’s own Code of Conduct and Ethics considers it a breach of professional journalism ethics to publish or broadcast obscene materials.
The publication on the paper’s front page triggered an outrage among the public including his colleague journalists.
But in his reaction, Mr. Dean said he published the obscene photograph to provide proof of the Acting Presidential Affairs Minister’s wrongdoing which was “bad and inhumane” and a violation of the Liberian Penal Code, especially gang sex.
He note CLOSURE TREND
Under Taylor
On February 12, police ordered the newspaper to cease publishing after it ran articles criticizing the state of emergency declared on February 8 by Taylor. The suspension was lifted a week later
Under Samuel Doe
The Daily Observer was ordered closed down several times — once for a period of two years — for such offenses as “presenting stories in a negative manner, misreporting events in the country or criticizing the state,” and it was twice the target of arson attacks.
d that this government cannot be preaching against sexual exploitation and abuse while senior officials of government are engaging in it. “This doesn’t auger well for our society,” he said. Dean said the essence is to publicly expose and stop these senior officials of government from the practice.
Lawyers representing the interest of the Mr. Dean and The Independent have vowed to fight the closure and have criticized the actions of the Liberian government. Following reports of Dean’s arrest last week, the government issued a statement denying that the paper’s publisher was wanted by the government.
Dean’s lawyers, Attorneys Sayma Syrenius Cephus and Adolphus Karnuah, say they were deeply troubled by reports that the government is hunting journalist Dean and has accordingly deployed plain clothes security personnel around his private residence.
The release signed by the Communications Officer of the Foundation for Media Education and Legal Services, Emmanuel Norris, said the behavior of the Office of the Solicitor General Tiawan Gongloe to single out Mr. Dean for arrest and prosecution instead of Mr. Knuckles who has openly, deliberately, intentionally patronized prostitution is unacceptable and is a pale reflection of “selective justice.”
They described as a “complete mockery of justice” the use of certain portions of the Penal Code to go after a perceived enemy instead of the full application off the law which frowns upon sexual deviation which has been openly practiced by the demonstration of the recent photo released by The Independent newspaper.
The release noted that both the police and the office of the Solicitor General must develop the courage and sense of duty to go after violators of the law including Mr. Knuckles who has openly and brazenly debased Liberian girls in such horrendous fashion for little or nothing just because he is a Minister in the government.
Dean’s lawyers have state that their clients did nothing wrong in publishing the photographs and have asked him to remain calm and maintain that Dean and his editorial staff are worthy of commendation for exposing what it referred to as a “sexual deviant” in violation of the Penal Code.
Condemnation from PUL, Warning for Sirleaf
On Tuesday, the Press Union of Liberia says the seizure of the newspaper’s offices without court order is a Police action and called on the government to submit to the rule of law.
The union challenged President Sirleaf not to allow her government slide into repression but should give chance to the judiciary to function. The PUL also called on the head of UNMIL, Alan Doss and democratic institutions not to let this misuse of power pass un-noticed.
The Center for Media Studies and Peacebuilding and the Liberia Media Center argued that the decision to revoke the paper’s license outside of the court is unlawful.
The two groups said the constitution frowns on any withdrawal of rights and privileges outside of the court of competent jurisdiction.
Critics of the government’s action has decried the government’s actions considering the fact that the the media watchdog group, PUL had already reprimanded two of its member institutions for breaching the union’s code of ethics. In a press release, the PUL says it is suspending for three months, the membership of The Independent newspaper for its publication of an obscene photograph.
Tolerance of the media, critics and rights activists has been a serious issue plaguing for past leaders and speculations were ripe Tuesday that the paper’s closure is in retaliation over the circumstances and the photographs which led to the resignation of Knuckles on Monday.
Stay Tuned!
Subject: REPLY: DID THE TRC MISS THE CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?"
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 04:53:50 02/28/07 ()
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Knice wrote on February 26, 2007:
"In any case let us now call a spade a spade by desisting from further sugarcoating of nearly three decades of brutal APC assault on our values, on our institutions, and on our persons. For real healing to take place in Sierra Leone we must now recognize and acknowledge once and for all, that record as the single most important cause for the chaos and suffering that we have endured and continue to suffer."
I certainly did not "sugarcoat" the 24-year period that coincided with APC rule. Much to the contrary:
1. It is true, as I duly noted in my article, that the APC rule between 1968 and 1992 coincided with the massive assault on the most basic right of citizenship of Sierra Leoneans -- the right to choose their leaders.
2. It is also true that the RUF's leader, Foday Sankoh, led the bestial assault on millions of innocent S/Leoneans between 1991 and 2001, for his purely selfish reasons, as I also properly noted in the article.
However -- and this is the point that the TRC missed (and which you also missed) -- the APC's disenfranchisement of the electorate is NOT the reason why Sankoh embarked on his campaign of PERSONAL vengeance against the APC.
Therefore, to the extent that you are referring to chaos and suffering arising from Sankoh's RUF bestialities, you are confusing two very matters with no causal relationship when you claim that the APC's record is the "most important cause for the chaos and suffering that we have endured and continue to suffer."
Moreover, if you are referring to the economic chaos and resultant suffering arising from corruption, itribalism, and other manifestations of governmental incompetence, then you would still be wrong by claiming that the APC's record is the "most important cause for the chaos and suffering that we have endured and continue to suffer." This is because the APC party from 1970 to 1992 was actually an unofficial coalition of the SLPP and APC. This is readily attested to by the fact that the SLPP leader then, Salia Jusu-Sheriff, was a senior member of the APC government.
Indeed, the single most responsible cause for untold poverty in SL, in my humble opinion -- devaluation -- was executed by the SLPP's leader, Salia Jusu-Sheriff, in 1979, when he was Minister of Finance in the APC government of President Siaka Stevens. And there were many other top SLPP members serving as ministers in the APC government throughout the 24 years of nominal APC rule.
So, if you want to "call a spade a spade," you would now state clearly that the chaos and suffering which is today the searing reality of millions of S/Leoneans is not the result of the APC's actions alone, but the result of the joint actions of the unofficial coalition of SLPP and APC parties which devastated SL's economy and its politics for more than 20 years.
Subject: Re: REPLY: DID THE TRC MISS THE CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?"
From: Question
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Date Posted: 09:26:47 02/28/07 ()
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Moh'm, I wonder if it is possible to meaure the damage the APC government did to Salone for 24 years? Can that damage be allocated between the APC and SLPP members in those APC governments of Bandele and Momoh?
Subject: Re: REPLY: DID THE TRC MISS THE CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?"
From: DAMN TIRED
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Date Posted: 05:43:34 02/28/07 ()
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Bra try to be creative. You nor dey tire with this one topic ya so? You hade nor able think of other thing? All you compin dem creative. Nar you wan dey pan dis TRC labo labo lekeh man way dey pan prozac.
Subject: Re: REPLY: DID THE TRC MISS THE CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?"
From: YOU SHOULD BE TIRED OF YOUR IGNORANCE
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Date Posted: 08:47:56 02/28/07 ()
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A lot of us have been enjoying the discussion ON THIS SAME SUBJECT between Knice, Iscandri and now Jalloh's reply, in the thread below. because I understand what I read, I see nothing wrong with reading their contributions.
Not everyone is on prozac, bra, as you will see should you start talking sense enough to stop taking it and your other psychotic medications.
Subject: PUL, others condemn Police action
From: STAR RADIO
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Date Posted: 19:14:50 02/27/07 ()
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PUL, others condemn Police action
STAR RADIO NEWS
Written by Wellington Geevon Smith
Tuesday, 27 February 2007
The Press Union of Liberia and other media institutions have condemned the Liberia National Police for what they considered arbitrary closure of the Independent newspaper.
The PUL said the seizure of the newspaper’s offices without court order is a Police action and called on the government to submit to the rule of law.
The union challenged President Sirleaf not to allow her government slide into repression but should give chance to the judiciary to function.
The PUL also called on the head of UNMIL, Alan Doss and democratic institutions not to let this misuse of power pass un-noticed.
Also, the Center for Media Studies and Peacebuilding and the Liberia Media Center argued that the decision to revoke the paper’s license outside of the court is unlawful.
The two groups said the constitution frowns on any withdrawal of rights and privileges outside of the court of competent jurisdiction.
Subject: Issa might be next in line for the virtual noose
From: General Konouwah
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Date Posted: 17:36:58 02/27/07 ()
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As soon as I saw him walking out of the detention center in that picture, smiling, with a cane in his hand, wearing his grey gown, embroidered in white, and surrounded by that burly-looking bald-headed oyimbo, I knew at once that his days on this earth were numbered.
And I said to myself reflectively in Mende:
Tia li ma mu mahi wa ma.
I prayed that my instincts would deceive me on this occasion, but no sireee they did not.
For hip surgery? For knee surgery? In Dakar, Senegal? Not the hospital at Hill Station that was bequeathed to the nation by Pa Choithram? Not in London, at Hammersmith hospital? Heck, one of my boys could have done that surgery with no post-operative complications whatsover. It is that simple and routine here in my adopted land.
He was doing fine after the operation in that military hospital - L'hospital Aristide Dantec, they said. But three or more days thereafter he started bleeding profusely from where the surgeon's knife had penetrated. They managed to control / stop the bleeding the first time around. They could not do so when the bleeding started again, and he bled till his heart could pump no more - they said.
But why?
Post-operative malaise? Or murder of the first degree?
Why is that they could not even allow him to be treated by medecins who could speak his official language, but to be treated in a Francophone country that is not much more advanced than his own country? And knowing the role played by the former colonial master of the hosting hospital / nation in the destabilizing wars of West Africa for the last decade or two, post operative malaise of any kind after hip-replacement surgery can be very suspicious.
From the historical perspective of this court, I wonder if Issa might face the same fate?
Is Issa next in line for the virtual noose?
Based on his contributions to the brutality of the RUFfians, I will shed no tears for Issa. My tear glands are dry from the fate imposed on the Chief, by Sir Dingo TWO-FOOT-ARATA, and his sponsors in this court.
I ain't worried about Foday, Maskita, JPK, and Charlie, but I am mad as hell at this court for enslaving our HERO, and ensuring his untimely demise through this gross negligence in the forthrightness to provide him with the best care possible. Afterall, they had held him since 03.
Did Uncle Sam refuse to accommodate him at Bethesda, or Walter Reed?
I don't know, that is why I am asking.
Did Tony state that he could NOT come to London for this operation? Afterall, they provided the funding for this un-special court that held the Chief, even though PC Komrabai Peter-P told them that the Chief is a HERO for the great majority of us.
What are they trying to hide with this SHAM COURT of theirs in na me Sa Lon, anyway? This ain't how justice must be shown to be done in any society.
Is the reason for this impropriety - camouflaged as democratic judiciousness to help the people of Sa Lon relieve their war pains - why Crane, and da Silva absconded, after serving their limited terms in office?
Is Sir Dingo Two-foot-Arata (his hands are tied, he claims) part and parcel in supporting his masters' grand master plan to eliminate the detained protagonists, and antagonists in our nation's dramatic nightmare, through the sham and shame of these trials in this court?
Does Sir Dingo believe that as head honcho in this sad brutal drama in our nation's history think that he is gonna meet his maker with a clear conscience?
We must pray for him to live a long life after retirement so that his conscience will eat at him while he is alive like some sort of metastasized cancer.
I was NOT going to write this piece, knowing how emotional I might get, but if they keep allowing the detainees to die suspiciously, we must entertain the thought of burning down their un-special court.
Let those very highly-paid expatriate lawyers go back to their home countries, because they seem to be carrying out an agenda that is not beneficial to SaLonbla, in general.
How long must we weep over this brutal war that ended about five years ago?
Why must they keep punching our wounds with glowing spears?
They know that most of our peoples are lovers of strangers / foreigners over their own kin and kith, as evidenced during the slave trade. I guess we still have that slavish mentality within us to the extent that the "house nigras" amongst us would gladly sacrifice one of their own through the cunningness embedded in some so-called UN agreement to establish a very divisive special court in na we land
Issa is probably next, and then Charlie, and then Moinina. They cannot mess with the doctor though, for his magical powers will overwhelm them wherever they go in the future.
On a journey to a far away land, the act of rubbing the earth / soil of your beloved homeland on your thumb, licking it, and pointing it to the heavens indicates that our hero knew he would not be back, and so now he is in heaven with God, the Almighty.
I will cry no more.
The Chief knew that the end was near. His daughter knew it, as she pleaded in vain / on deaf ears, for her father to be taken to a more sophisticated nation for his treatment. But oh no! The items on their sordid agenda must be satiated. And so, Bra Hinga is dead.
I will cry no more.
Subject: Re: Issa might be next in line for the virtual noose
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 09:41:46 02/28/07 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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You are one of the enemies of sierra leone.
Subject: Re: Issa might be next in line for the virtual noose
From: issa
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Date Posted: 10:13:20 02/28/07 ()
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Did you really understand what that supplication was all about? Did you understand what you think you have read?
Subject: Re: Issa might be next in line for the virtual noose
From: NimIssa
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Date Posted: 11:30:02 02/28/07 ()
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Do you really understand the meaning of supplication?
Subject: Re: Issa might be next in line for the virtual noose
From: Idleness
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Date Posted: 21:27:51 02/27/07 ()
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"Did Uncle Sam refuse to accommodate him at Bethesda, or Walter Reed?"
"Did Tony state that he could NOT come to London for this operation?"
"I don't know, that is why I am asking."
Great questions and your answer is:
Uncle Sam and Tony don't want to entertain the thought of burning Walter Reed and the City of London if Hinga were to die in their respective countries. As you know,both Uncle Sam and Tony were the architects of the "un special court".
Subject: Re: Issa might be next in line for the virtual noose
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 21:05:02 02/27/07 ()
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"Tia li ma mu mahi wa ma." By Prof. Kouwah
Bra, in traditional terms, you should
be mourning, and probably singing
a song I do NOT want to sing in full
for fear of being jinxed. Yes, I am a bit superstitious.
However, here are a few words
from choruses you should be singing:
##################################################
E yaalah yaalah E yaalao
E yaalah yaalah E yaalao
{fill in the blanks}
Then comes the part that reminds
you about the futility of crying
#################################
Biwor kakah beh E yaawaoh
Biwor kaka beh E yaawaoh
###################################
Sing that song which every son of the
South East knows, and leave the rest with God.
Chief Noman will rest in peace, and the Gods will also recognize your tearful supplications after that song.
Nar im dat, Bra.
Subject: Re: Issa might be next in line for the virtual noose
From: Gen. Konouwah
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Date Posted: 07:58:06 02/28/07 ()
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"...Sing that song which every son of the
South East knows, and leave the rest with God..." Bra E
Yes indeed, Bra E, I sang that song several times last night, and I have wiped away the tears from my eyes / face.
The white string is diagonally wrapped around part of my neck and chest on the right hand side. It will be there throughout the mourning period.
I will cry no more.
Thank you for reminding me about that song. Good to know that you are so very culturally aware, and traditional.
Ngewor ee bi mahu gbay.
Kehtamia.
Subject: Re: Issa might be next in line for the virtual noose
From: Ngewor
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Date Posted: 10:57:09 02/28/07 ()
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would love to see you cry big man bikfool
Subject: Re: Issa might be next in line for the virtual noose
From: NYA NGAA TIKEKEH
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Date Posted: 12:28:46 02/28/07 ()
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Bra, Ngewor is the Mende word for GOD.
Please take a people's word for God out it when playing around.
No plaber intended.
Subject: Re: Issa might be next in line for the virtual noose
From: Idleness
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Date Posted: 20:39:52 02/27/07 ()
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"we must entertain the thought of burning down their un-special court."
Make nor mor dem say Sengbe tork sometin.
Take your black ass to Sierra Leone and do it yourself Nigga.
Subject: Re: Issa might be next in line for the virtual noose
From: hehehehehe
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Date Posted: 20:54:36 02/27/07 ()
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I dae laf I dae laf oh, I dae laf I dae laf oh, stop me befo I pish. Isint he the dumbest nigga with a Phd you ever known?
Subject: Re: Issa might be next in line for the virtual noose
From: DONKEY
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Date Posted: 18:16:18 02/27/07 ()
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we must entertain the thought of burning down their un-special court.
In typical kamajor style, the unesteemed Sengbe does advocate violence s usual. This guy is an hearse.
Subject: I am currently ill.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 15:12:21 02/27/07 ()
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Greetings my brothers and sisters. For the past three days I have been helplessly ill. My scrotum is swollen, I have feaver and diziness.
Subject: Re: I am currently ill.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 15:56:42 02/27/07 ()
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Message:
Time for the test.
Subject: Re: I am currently ill.
From: KABS KANU
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Date Posted: 18:29:23 02/27/07 ()
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Message:
Bambay, we are sorry to hear this. Guys, is there any way we can help our brother seek urgent medical help ?
Subject: Re: I am currently ill.
From: Cotton Tree Yuba
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Date Posted: 21:20:23 02/27/07 ()
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I don't think anyone gives a rat's ass any more after
the pay back they got from him last they came to his aid.
I've been watching him from atop my tree, and all I can say is that he's not a kid, let him grow up.
Subject: KLA
From: Nationalization..Zimbabwean style
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Date Posted: 14:07:09 02/27/07 ()
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Developing Nations that choose the Nationalization option in solving problems related to their Natural resources, must deal with the consequences of their actions.
They risk Pariah Status and a Complete exclusion from financial markets. They could loose their Credit ratings, and even face legal actions for Contract breaches.
"Mugabe Plans Diamond Industry Takeover
By Jeanette Goldman Posted: 02/21/07 05:34 [Submit Comment]
Zimbabwe's government plans to take complete control over its diamond industry and nationalize all diamond mining in the country, reported Bloomberg on February 21.
In an interview on state television late on February 20, President Robert Mugabe realized his threats to seize mining assets in the country and announced that "only government will mine diamonds." Adding that diamonds will fall into a "special category," Mugabe accused exploration companies of selling the gems they find illegally. The move is aimed at eliminating the recent smuggling from the country's mines and ending the diamond rush in the eastern district of Marange.
"If the state takeover of diamond mines is passed into law, it will destroy diamond exploration in this country," Andrew Cranswick, CEO of African Consolidated Resources Plc, told Bloomberg.
In August 2006 Zimbabwe's government evicted African Consolidated from Marange, a deposit to which the Nettlestead, United Kingdom-based company had the rights, after a diamond find there prompted thousands of miners to converge on the area. The area has since been given over to the state-run Zimbabwe Mining Development Corp.
"I've never believed in nationalization and as a citizen of Zimbabwe I'd say it's a mistake,'' Cranswick told Bloomberg. ``As a mining explorer, well, we'll have to review the whole country if this becomes a legal reality."
No one from Rio Tinto, RioZim or River Ranch was available to comment when contacted by Bloomberg News.
Zimbabwe is home to diamond mines -Rio Tinto owned Murowa, Riozim Ltd., and River Ranch. Zimbabwe's diamond production ranks behind Botswana, South Africa, Namibia, the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Angola."
The Company involved in this strong ARM EXERCISE, hopefully has some Political Risk insurance covering Expropriation of assets.
TSTM
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Subject: Re: KLA
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 20:59:02 02/27/07 ()
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KLA interesting article. However the sierra leone issue is different. Any contract entered into by any of the parties to that contract where it can be proven that one or all parties have committed fraud, can be rescinded.
The fraud issue is quite palpable in sierra leone and if you were to send me an e mail to aiscandari@aol.com, I will further enlighten you on the issue.
Alieu
Subject: New PM arrives
From: Guinea
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Date Posted: 14:00:03 02/27/07 ()
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The Patriotic Vanguard, Sierra Leone News Portal|
Lansana Kouyate is Guinea’s New PM
By Gibril Koroma - Tuesday 27 February 2007.
Guinea’s new Prime Minister, Lansana Kouyate, and his wife arrived in Conakry this afternoon to a rousing welcome, according to two Guinean newspapers,Le Diplomate Guinee and Guinee News.
Kouyate, a former ECOWAS Executive Secretary replaces Eugene Camara, whose recent appointment by president Lansana Conte sparked huge riots and a massive loss of property.
Sierra Leoneans would recall that Lansana Kouyate, as Ecowas scribe in 1997, supervised the ill-fated Conakry peace talks between the SLPP government in exile and the AFRC junta. ECOMOG launched the first attck to oust the junta a few days after he visited Freetown.
Kouyate, who arrived in an Ivorian presidential jet, was welcomed at Gbessia airport by former Prime Minister Eugene Camara and other dignitaries before being driven in a white Toyota Corolla to meet president Lansana Conte.Thousands of Conakry residents lined the streets to have a glimpse of him.
Subject: IN THE DOCTOR'S LIBRARY (2)
From: CHIEF IN EXILE
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Date Posted: 11:15:44 02/27/07 ()
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IS LIFE IN THE USA AKIN TO THAT OF ABRAHAM'S ?
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Posted by Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS on August 27, 2006 at 04:18:13:
"STUDY TO SHEW THYSELF APPROVED UNTO GOD, A WORKMAN THAT NEEDETH NOT TO BE ASHAMED, RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH".
(2 Timothy 2:15)
------------------------------------------------------"By faith Abrahim obeyed when he was called to go out to a place which he was to receive for an inheritance, and he went out not knowing where he was going". By faith he lived as a foreigner in the land of promise, dwelling in tents with Isaac and Jacob, the co-heirs of the same promise,for he expectantly looked for the city which has foundations, whose builder is God". (Hebrews 11:8-10).
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Most times our coming to the USA is akin to that of Abraham"s. We usually leave everything to faith and let the Lord take control of things. The Lord specializes in imposibilities; creating the earth out of nothing, opening the sea for Israel to pass through, incarnating Jesus in the virgin birth, resurrecting the crucified Christ, etc. My favorite chapter in the Bible is Herbews 11. Most times we do not know when or how the Lord will work the impossible in our lives. Faith is putting our trust in God as we move into the unknown future.
Hebrews 11:8-12 provides two incidents from Abraham's life that illustrate the life of faith. One (verses 8-10)is the story of his call to leave the Mesopotamian home of his ancestors. We need to note several things about the experience. First, that he obeyed. Like Abel, Enoch, and Noah(verses 4-7), Abrahim's faith was active. It was not merely accepting something from God, it was also doing something in response to His will. Faith is an active sort of thing.
Second, Abrahim's faith did not operate by sight. As verse 8 puts it, "he went out not knowing where he was going". Leon Morris ("The Expositor's Bible commentary") calls that phrase the "classic statement of the obedience of faith". Some people want to know the beginning from the end in every detail before they act. But that is not the way of faith. Caution is often important and necessary, but it can also be crippling to spiritual growth.
Third, Abraham was a strange kind of heir. Generally we think of inheritance as property handed down from parents to children. It is generally tied quite closely to home and family closely. But God did not tell Abraham that he would inherit his father's home or lands. To the contrary, he commanded him to leave his ancestral home and land for a place that he had never seen.
Fourth, heirs ordinarily expect respect, but Abraham lived as a foreigner or resident alien in the promised land, suffering at times from lack of respect accorded "drifters" by those who already owned the land. That situation, once again, echoes that of christians across time, who have a heavenly promise, but are often despised by the powers that be in the present ages.
Fifth, Abraham never received the promise in his own lifetime. Instead of a regular home he dwelt in a temporary tent. As Leon Morris notes, "the whole land had been promised to him, yet he did not have a proper house in it". Up to the end of his life the only part of Canaan he owned was the firld he had purchased as Sarah's burial place. As if that was not bad enough,neither Isaac nor Jacob inherited the land !
Sixth, Abraham's faith extended beyond earthly rewards to the heavenly. "He expectantly looked for the city which has (secure) foundations, whose designer and builder is God". Faith appreciates the here and now, but its real goal is the eternal. Thus even though Abraham had his hopes on inheriting earthly Canaan, he never lost sight of the fact that THIS EARTH WAS NOT HIS HOME.
As we live in this USA, then, we may not get all our dreams fulfilled, but we should look foward to the heavenly because that is where our secure foundation is.
Subject: IN THE DOCTOR'S LIBRARY (1)
From: CHIEF IN EXILE
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Date Posted: 11:05:12 02/27/07 ()
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Subject: THE MOST EFFECTIVE TREATMENT FOR PAIN AND STRESS IN LIFE
From: DR CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS
Date Posted: 14:06:33 08/08/06 ()
Entered From: 24hrpc8.cpmc.columbia.edu at 156.111.18.147
A few years ago several medical researchers were studying the effect of the shocks of life on the central nervous system. They took a lamb and placed it in its pen alone. They then hooked up electric shock devices around the pen. As the lamb wandered to one side of the pen, the researchers threw a switch and the lamb was shocked. Immediately it twitched and scampered to another part of the pen. Soon the researchers shocked the lamb again. Again he ran.
As the research continued, the scientists discovered that the lamb would never return to a place where he had been previously shocked. After a series of shocks, the little lamb just stood in the center of his pen QUIVERING. He had no place to hide. The shocks were everywhere. Completely overcome emotionally, filled with anxiety and stress, his nerves gave way ("...and if dis nar been mortal man, nar crase ee crase so").
The researchers then took this lamb's twin and placed it in a pen. This time, they put the lamb's mother in with him. Presently, they shocked him. Again the lamb ran, but this time he ran to his mother and snuggled up to her closely. Evidently she reassured him, because he left her side to begin eating again. The researchers threw the switch again, and once again the lamb ran to his mother. Reassuringly she consoled him again.
The researchers noticed a remarkable difference in the two lambs. The second lamb had no fear of returning to the spot where he received the shock. To the utter amazement of the researchers, further shocks no longer disturbed him. He showed none of the symptoms of nervousness, stress, and anxiety that his twin showed under the same circumstances.
DID I HEAR YOU ASK "what made this remarkable difference?" He had the reassurance of someone to flee to in stress. He had confidence and power in someone outside of himself to cope with the stress. Did I hear you say "I agree with the Chief that Confidence is not arrogance, and arrogance is not confidence?"
Human beings behave the same way as these lambs. When we have to face pain and anxiety alone, we can easily become overwhelmed. We always need a support network in life, and this support network should start with GOD being at the head of it ...because the man of the world will let you down...but JESUS NEVER FAILS.
Subject: WHO POCKETS CHIEF, THE HONORABLE MINISTER, "DEFENSE FUNDS"?
From: CHIEF IN EXILE
To: All
Date Posted: 10:59:17 02/27/07 ()
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My deepest sympathy to the relatives and friends of Chief, The Honorable Minister, Hinga Norman on his "untimely" death.
On person's loss is another's gain and this brings me to the question of "...So who pockets the DEFENSE FUNDS of the late chief"?
Did I hear you say "ask the Rev. Samforay?"
Subject: Re: WHO POCKETS CHIEF, THE HONORABLE MINISTER, "DEFENSE FUNDS"?
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 10:39:27 02/28/07 ()
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Chief ar baig pardin sah but you too fen plaba. ROTFLMMFAO
Subject: Re: WHO POCKETS CHIEF, THE HONORABLE MINISTER, "DEFENSE FUNDS"?
From: CHIEFDOM SPOKESWOMAN
To: All
Date Posted: 11:19:58 02/28/07 ()
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH, SIR! FREEDOM OF SPEECH !
Subject: THE POINT AT ISSUE WAS SADLY MISSED!
From: Dr. C. CURTIS-THOMAS
To: All
Date Posted: 10:44:10 02/27/07 ()
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THIS FEMALE CIRCUMCISION ISSUE LEAVES SOME MEN DISGRUNTLED
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Posted by Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS on February 26, 2007 at 12:58:42:
"In a study of 300 polygynous Sudanese men, each of whom had one wife who had been circumcised and one or more who had not, 266 expressed a definite SEXUAL PREFERENCE FOR THE UNCIRCUMCISED WIFE.
In addition, 60 said they had married a SECOND UNCIRCUMCISED wife because of PENETRATION DIFFICULTIES they experienced with their first wife whose SCARRED VAGINAL OPENING became progressively more INELASTIC after each child birth".
(A.A. Shandall, "Circumcision of Females", Sudan Medical Journal, 1967)
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Posted by BRA ENVIABLE on February 26, 2007 at 16:21:48:
In Reply to: THIS FEMALE CIRCUMCISION ISSUE LEAVES SOME MEN DISGRUNTLED posted by Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS on February 26, 2007 at 12:58:42:
Do I want to MARRY multiple wives? Heck yes! Go ahead and call me a chauvinist African pig. Waite man sef kin do am. Nar ipocrite just pass mark nar waitman society. Jesse Jackson geh wef en gial fren way born foram. No to polygami dat? Way you turn bursting loose with two baby dem at dae same time, u guilty of polygamy. Bra Clinton married to Hillary but dae bra get gial fren dem all obot. Nar we yone den sabi talk bort.
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Subject: Deputy Prime Minister backs our Sierra Leone campaign
From: WILLIAM WILBERFORCE
To: All
Date Posted: 09:52:17 02/27/07 ()
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Deputy Prime Minister backs our Sierra Leone campaign
John Prescott, during his recent village to Kent, in Sierra Leone
TWO hundred years ago a piece of legislation entered the statute books that made slavery illegal. This historic, world-changing event came after a concerted campaign led by William Wilberforce, a former MP for Hull.
Many of those slaves who were subsequently freed were taken by the British to a small country on the west coast of Africa, Sierra Leone, where they started new lives as free men and women.
This year, the current MP for Hull, John Prescott, is leading celebrations of the bicentenary of the abolition of the slave trade.
Subject: Re: Deputy Prime Minister backs our Sierra Leone campaign
From: Gossip
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Date Posted: 10:51:27 02/27/07 ()
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Dem say, British Govt backs SLPP??
Subject: Re: Deputy Prime Minister backs our Sierra Leone campaign
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 11:56:05 02/27/07 ()
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Nah true Gossip.
LEH WE NOR HIDE NATING.
EE KAM FOR BATO SLPP. BOHKOO KNOW DAT.
DAT NOR GO BE,
EN EE NOR GO WOKE.
WE GO CHANGE DEM JULY BY GOD POWER.
EE LEK WOODAT KAM.
Subject: President Kabbah Registers For 2007 Presidential And Parliam
From: JOKO SMART
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Date Posted: 09:42:01 02/27/07 ()
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President Kabbah Registers For 2007 Presidential And Parliamentry Elections. (Pictorial Version)
Subject: Re: President Kabbah Registers For 2007 Presidential And Parliam
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 11:49:07 02/27/07 ()
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I have seen the pictures.
Is that a registeration centre or a hut(BAFAH) to drink palm wine(POYO)
President Kaba knows how a registeration centre should look like.
He was sitting what was presumably on a dirty door step of the so called registeration centre.
Was he not ashamed? and they were not even ashamed to publish it on the official website of State House.
The only good thing was that he appeared local. I give him 100%.
This just shows that this man did absolutely nothing during his rule.
He will not get my vote and the votes of many other people.
THIS NAH TIPICAL EXAMPLE.
EE NOR DO NATING.
A SHAME OoooOH!!
BABOO YAYE OoooooooOH!!
Subject: KABBAH ON NORMAN'S DEATH
From: JOKO SMART
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Date Posted: 09:40:14 02/27/07 ()
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President Kabbah Attends Njala University Congregation
By Marian Samu
Njala University on Saturday 24th February 2007 held its second annual congregation for the conferment of degrees, diplomas and certificates to students who have successfully completed various courses at the University. The occasion which was held at the Bo Coronation grouds was attended by the President and Chancellor of Njala University, Alhaji Dr. Ahmad Tejan Kabbah.
Before officially opening the congregation, President Kabbah took this opportunity to address the people on the issue of the death of Sam Hinga Norman, indictee at the Special Court for Sierra Leone and former Minister in his government. The President admonished the people to beware of the politics of lies and rumour mongering stating that some people are moving around spreading destructive rumours about the death of Chief Sam Hinga Norman just to create animosity among the people. He dispelled the rumour that Chief Norman's death was orchestrated. President Kabbah explained that the hip replacement operation Chief Norman went through was a very risky operation, and several other people like Chief Norman have been unlucky to survive such an operation even in Europe. He described the late Chief Sam Hinga Norman as an exemplarary government Minister and very collaborative.
The President further explained that they were all quite emotional about Chief Norman's indictment, but there was no way anyone could have interfered as government had committed itself in the Special Court agreement between the Government and the United Nations that government will not interfere with the workings of the Court. He however expressed government's willingness to give the late Hinga Norman a befitting burial as Chief Norman was not a convicted war criminal but only an indictee.
The Pro Chancellor, Dr. Sandy Bockarie in his address thanked President Kabbah for facilitating the creation a 2nd University in Sierra Leone thereby increasing the opportunity for many more deserving young people to access university education and especially in developing the human resource and manpower base of the country in line with current development aspirations of the country.
The Vice Chancellor and Principal of Njala University, Prof. Aliyageen Alghali spoke about the various developmental strides the university has undertaken including the establishment of the Institute of Environmental Management and Quality Control, the School of Forestry and Silviculture and the reclassification of the Department of Geography and Rural Development into the Institute of Geography and Development Studies among others.
Over 400 graduands received degrees, diplomas and certificates with the University prize for the best student of the year going to a female student, Hannah Yankson. Prof. Ernest Humphrey Mofikpara Wright received the Degree of Doctor of Science (Honoris Causa) for his tremendous contribution to science education in the country.
Subject: LET THE PEOPLE BURY THEIR DEAD
From: The Sierra Leonean
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Date Posted: 08:57:28 02/27/07 ()
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I think Norman's funeral will be taken up by the people of Sierra Leone - devoid of government interference. Funds for the funeral will be raised by the willing people of Sierra Leone, and all expensis. let the people bury their dead. I am sure we will be able to raise more than a bag of rice and $100.
Subject: THE NORMANS AND SLPP - step 1
From: Chief Bomborlai
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Date Posted: 08:46:36 02/27/07 ()
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General: Family members to witness Norman ’s autopsy…they reject SLPP whip’s gesture
Family members of Chief Hinga Norman are expected to be flown to the Senegalese Capital Dakar this week to be present at the autopsy to determine the cause of death of the late CDF leader who died in Senegal last week, the New Citizen newspaper reports. In a related development, the Standard Times newspaper the SLPP party whip and Member of Parliament Hon. Ansu Kaikai as the first SLPP member to taste the wrath of the bereaved Norman family. The newspaper writes: - “Kaikai’s baptism of fire came when he went to the residence of the family to sympathize with a token of Le 50,000 and was ordered, by family members, to quit the premises or have himself to blame. ‘Take your money and leave our house now’ the family ordered the MP. The late man’s family had always remained bitter over the treatment meted out to the late chief before and after his death by the SLPP government…one thing they never concealed from the ruling SLPP government which they blame for his fate. Meanwhile, the family has appointed Dr. Albert Demby, former Vice President in the first SLPP government as head of the family and in charge of all burial arrangements of the late Chief Norman.”
Subject: Re: THE NORMANS AND SLPP - step 1
From: TEDDY FODAY-MUSA
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Date Posted: 08:59:20 02/27/07 ()
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NORMAN FAMILY FIRST PRESS RELEASE
By Family Members
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14D Hanneson Street
New England Ville, Freetown, SL
232 - 76 – 614177
29B New Place Square, Drummond Rd
London, SE16 2HW, UK.
0207 394 1397 & 44-7985 695 135
It is with regret that we have been informed of the unexpected loss of our Father, Chief Sam Hinga Norman who passed away in Dakar, Senegal on Thursday, 22nd of February 2007.
The cause of death remains unknown and the UN administered Special Court of Sierra Leone who has been responsible for our father’s protection and welfare are carrying out an autopsy which will be attended by an independent UK forensic pathologist to represent the interests of the family. The family hopes this matter will be carried out expeditiously so that the body can be returned to Sierra Leone for burial.
Whilst the family wishes to mourn in private their, husband, father, brother, grandfather, and uncle, the family also recognises, that the people of Sierra Leone wish to recognise the loss of this National Hero. The family supports this, but does not wish to see the death and funeral to become immersed into party politics of Sierra Leone.
Dr. Joe Demby has been asked by the family to assist with the funeral arrangements, which will take place in Bo. Once the appropriate funeral arrangements have been made, the family will inform the public.
In the meantime, books of condolence have been placed in the Church of Salvation in Edward Lane, Freetown and Sewa Road, Bo.
Subject: On Chief Dura's Death...
From: A keen observer
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Date Posted: 08:43:04 02/27/07 ()
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I think Cocorioko is merely trying to pick up a fight with Awareness Times on this. I know Awareness Times is a pro-government newspaper and I have had series of issues with their publications on a variety of issues. But when they reported that " Chief Dura is gravely Ill", I am sure they were reporting within the context of the chieftaincy. We all know (including Cocoriok, and the Chief's son) that when a paramount chief dies, his death is normally conveyed as "gravely ill' until his funeral. And that besides the point, Awareness Times went further to put that in quote to imply the symbolic implication.
Therefore, running a publication to disprove an article just because it will show this paper in good stead is unwise in my opinion. I will give awareness times this one.
Subject: Re: On Chief Dura's Death...
From: BUFORD HWY
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Date Posted: 09:21:03 02/27/07 ()
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A keen observer,
"But when they reported that "chief Dura is gravely ILL",I am sure they were reporting within the context of the chieftaincy".
On this issue,I beg to differ with you,because not every chieftaincy in SALONE goes through the TRADITIONAL PROTOCOL of annoucing the PASSING of a chief that way,and SAFROKO CHIEFDOM happens to be one of them.I do not think that Cocorioko is PICKING UP a fight when it reported the ACCURRATE INFORMATION.
"Therefore,running a publication to disapprove an article just because it will show this paper in good stead is unwise in my opinion"
JOURNALISM 101 get the FACT STRAIGHT,DOUBLE CHECK YOUR SOUCRES before going to PUBLICATION.Everyone in this FORUM has been CRYING about how the MEDIA IN SALONE is NOT giving out the CORRECT INFORMATIONS to the PUBLIC,and now that COCORIOKO gave out the actual fact,you are saying in your opinion it is UNWISE? BRA LEF.
Subject: MK SUMAH - ANOTHER DEATH!!
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 08:00:32 02/27/07 ()
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MK Sumah passed away in kambia and is now in freetown to determine cause of death.. how many more deaths and why are they dying so sudeden? SLE is becoming a dangerous place!!
Subject: Re: MK SUMAH - ANOTHER DEATH!!
From: Not a fan of MK Suma
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Date Posted: 08:47:27 02/27/07 ()
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MK Suma is no longer a youth, his death does not imply anything to me order than the fact that its his time to die.
When young people die, or people die in mysterious circumstances, then thats a problem. I very much agree that there is a serious health facility problem in sierra leone, but Suma's death does not accentuate that.
Subject: TO ALIEU: ON MY SUPPORT OF THE R.U.F.
From: FARRAH MARRAH
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Date Posted: 20:50:04 02/26/07 ()
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Alieu,
"Farrah is one of those sierra leoneans who openly supported the killing and maiming of many of his own bretheren ostensibly to avenge the death of his uncle. While i do not condone the death of his uncle, I am aghast that any sierra leonean would so openly support the RUF and its cause and sadly that is Farrah Marrah that we know."
In another forum I REITERATED MY OPPOSITION TO THE LOSS OF INNOCENT LIVES, AND THE DESTRUCTION OF PRIVATE AND PUBLIC PROPERTIES.
However, as I have said in the past atrocities and destruction of properties are not unique to the RUF.
You do not have any problem in publicly supporting the APC who initiated the EXECUTION OF THEIR ADVESARIES.
You clamor about DEMOCRACY, BUT CANNOT APPRECIATE DISSENT. It should not be a surprise since YOUR HERO Siaka Stevens did not tolerate DISSENT EITHER.
Dr. Mohamed Sorie Forna was arrested for relinquishing his position as Minister of Finance. Later Stevens and your APC trumped up treason charges against him, Ibrahim Taqi, Bai Mkari N'Silk, Lt. Habib Lansana et al and EXECUTED THEM IN COLD BLOOD, AND BURIED IN A POOL OF ACID IN SECRECY. A hairbraiding style was also a fad mocking the trails of OUR HEROES "MOHAMED SORIE FORNA AND THE 14 OTHERS". THIS WAS THE SIERRA LEONE WE LIVED. WHERE STEVENS AND HIS CABAL WANTED TO ARREST DR FORNA'S CHILDREN, AMINATTA AND SHEKA, but for the DECENCY OF DR. OLU WILLIAMS AND HIS FAMILY--MAY THE LORD GIVE HIM, HIS WIFE, HIS CHILDREN AND HIS FUTURE GENERATIONS ETERNAL BLESSING AND ALL THAT THEY WISH FOR THEMSELVES--LORD KNOWS WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED TO THEM.
AND most of you have the AUDACITY TO QUESTION WHO WE SUPPORT. "The ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY FRIEND"
Subject: WHO ARE SIERRA LEONE'S HEROS?
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 03:55:19 02/27/07 ()
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Let us stop mentioning the names of former political leaders as heros.
The only person(s) since independence that could be termed as a hero is the late sir Milton Margai. May his soul rest in perfect, perfect(and perfect in trillions) peace.
The only heros Sierra Leone can bost of are the dedicated soldiers who fell during the civil war. We can also talk of pre republic leaders(Kerfa Smart, Albert Margai and others) as heroes.
But all of our leaders after sierra leone become a republic till now have blood in their hands. So I don't count these people as heros.
So let us stop talking about people like Tejan Kabba, Siaka Stevens etc when ik comes to matters of heros.
Each and everyone of these men had their own political agendas and some people sometimes sadly and regretably fell victims of their atrocities.
Subject: Re: TO ALIEU: ON MY SUPPORT OF THE R.U.F.
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 21:27:17 02/26/07 ()
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seriously though I hear that you were going to get you butt whipped at JJ's in washington Dc this past weekend. I was made to understand that you are actually a 5foot 2 inch midget and now understand all of your braying on this site as being that of one who is afflicted with the napoleonic complex.
I guess that you are trying to make me feel guilty fo my support of the APC ahn? I am not and infact I take no responsibility for any acts undertake by siaka stevens. I was not a member of the APC then and had I been my voice of reason would have been heard. You have a tendency to hurl accusations with reckless abandon and I am not one to fall for it.
You attempt to equate what the RUF did to what the APC did and only the dimwitted and the SLPP would agree to that. What the RUF whom you so openly support, did to sierra leone was dastardly and that you so openly support it is a CRYING SHAME.
Noqw back to the almost got you butt licked at JJ's in Was DC. my advise to you is that when you are short, more like a midget than a full grown man, you should watch who you walk up to yer hear, except of course if you packing some heat and knowing RUF, you just might be. ROTFLMMFAO
Subject: Re: TO ALIEU: ON MY SUPPORT OF THE R.U.F.
From: FARRAH MARRAH
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Date Posted: 12:35:55 02/27/07 ()
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Alieu,
"Noqw back to the almost got you butt licked at JJ's in Was DC. my advise to you is that when you are short, more like a midget than a full grown man, you should watch who you walk up to yer hear, except of course if you packing some heat and knowing RUF, you just might be."
When I read your response this morning I LAUGHED as hard as EVER. I am VERY DOUBTFUL about your "SOURCES".
I live neither in DC the surrounding STATES nor hang around those places JJ's. And FINALLY I am taller than 5foot 2 inch(es) and have NEVER LOST A FIGHT.
Alieu, you have indeed MADE MY DAY with your respones!
Subject: Re: TO ALIEU: ON MY SUPPORT OF THE R.U.F.
From: PATHOLOGICAL LIAR
To: All
Date Posted: 00:44:38 02/28/07 ()
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Do you really believe all the lies you tell about yourself?
I won't be surprised if the next thing you say is that your name is not William Bangura. Or that you a not a temp at the IMF. Or that the IMF is not in Washington, DC. Or that you are not a rebel.
Or you claim that you are 6 feet tall.
Subject: WHO KILLED CHIEF NORMAN
From: STEPHEN SWARAY
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Date Posted: 17:05:41 02/26/07 ()
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Sierra Leone is currently undergoing such an alarming developmental changes,that any conspitory theory emerging from this tragic event should be evidenced based,and not for the sake of activating past memories of vulnerable voters for political gains.
Hear are some of the questions that lack transparent comprehension;
1.Was there any PMDC or APC involvement in this tragic event inorder to destroy the relatively safe SLPP strongholds in the southeast?
2.Was there a power struggle within the SLPP before his arrest?
3.Why did the top guns in SLPP openly failed to support and advocate on his behalf taking into consideration his patiotic effort that restored power into the hands of the current adminstration?
4.Was there any surgical error or fatal after care lapse?
5.Or he simly couldn't take anymore of those endless depressive days behind the bars created by his own party?
Subject: Re: WHO KILLED CHIEF NORMAN
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 03:31:51 02/27/07 ()
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Stephen,
I think that point 1.(Was there any PMDC or APC involvement in this tragic event inorder to destroy the relatively safe SLPP strongholds in the southeast?)
is out of the equation. Let us just forget about it.
Everyone knows that the SLPP party is responsible for the demise of their former hero who helped them to gain power.
PMDC or APC have nothing what so ever with the the death of the late HINGA.
AH SWEH TO GOD.
Subject: Re: WHO GIVES A DAMN
From: KUBATEI
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Date Posted: 00:59:52 02/27/07 ()
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THATS RIGHT WHO GIVES A DAMN WHO KILLED HIM.
Subject: Re: WHO KILLED CHIEF NORMAN
From: Steven Kondeh
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Date Posted: 20:27:28 02/26/07 ()
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"Was there any PMDC or APC involvement in this tragic event inorder to destroy the relatively safe SLPP strongholds in the southeast?"
hush your mouth boy the APC would not get involved in something like that. Why dont you ask his daughter and that Sam Foray fellow they might know. I would not consider the south east a relatively safe strong hold of the SLPP.
Subject: Re: WHO KILLED CHIEF NORMAN
From: curious
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Date Posted: 23:19:42 02/27/07 ()
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PMDC and or That so called Rev-kamajor...They were very adamant about the locat1on of the Chief in senegal. So una ask dem...
Subject: THIS FEMALE CIRCUMCISION ISSUE LEAVES SOME MEN DISGRUNTLED
From: Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS
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Date Posted: 12:58:42 02/26/07 ()
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"In a study of 300 polygynous Sudanese men, each of whom had one wife who had been circumcised and one or more who had not, 266 expressed a definite SEXUAL PREFERENCE FOR THE UNCIRCUMCISED WIFE.
In addition, 60 said they had married a SECOND UNCIRCUMCISED wife because of PENETRATION DIFFICULTIES they experienced with their first wife whose SCARRED VAGINAL OPENING became progressively more INELASTIC after each child birth".
(A.A. Shandall, "Circumcision of Females", Sudan Medical Journal, 1967)
Subject: Re: THIS FEMALE CIRCUMCISION ISSUE LEAVES SOME MEN DISGRUNTLED
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 16:21:48 02/26/07 ()
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Do I want to MARRY multiple wives? Heck yes! Go ahead and call me a chauvinist African pig. Waite man sef kin do am. Nar ipocrite just pass mark nar waitman society. Jesse Jackson geh wef en gial fren way born foram. No to polygami dat? Way you turn bursting loose with two baby dem at dae same time, u guilty of polygamy. Bra Clinton married to Hillary but dae bra get gial fren dem all obot. Nar we yone den sabi talk bort.
Subject: Waite man sef kin do am.
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 16:53:16 02/26/07 ()
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Subject: YES, YOU CAN ALSO PUT THIS ON THE CHIEF'S TOMBSTONE
From: CHIEF IN EXILE
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Date Posted: 12:33:45 02/26/07 ()
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Subject: YES, YOU CAN PUT THIS ON MY TOMBSTONE.
From: Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS
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Date Posted: 20:18:07 10/04/06 ()
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"How good and pleasant it is when brothers (human beings) live together in unity". (Psalm 133:1)
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My thought for today is centered on BEING HUMAN and LIVING WELL. But what exactly does this mean ? Here is my take on being human and, beyond that, living well.
It is the nature of being human that we make mistakes, that we occasionally offend one another, AND THAT WE SOMETIMES FAIL IN OUR EFFORTS TO LIVE WELL. Genetics, temperament, environment, and habit may each play a role in our clumsy behaviors. Nothing, however, exceeds the fact that we are, first of all, human beings. Fundamentally, being human is what we are designed for. It is our GENERIC SELF, much like the automobile we drive away when we pay ONLY THE BASE PRICE.
For a human being to live well, however, requires something more. It implies physical, emotional, social, and spiritual health, none of which carries a particularly high price tag. It has to do with our desire to rise above generic living and above our ability to SIMPLY EXIST. It implies at least a measure of physical fitness. It involves emotionally healthy relationships, intimacy, and GENUINE FORGIVENESS. It involves connecting with a God who says: "Here I am. TRUST ME. WE NEED EACH OTHER. I HOPE YOU'LL ACCEPT ME AND LET ME BE A PART OF YOUR LIFE."
A wise and loving God created within us the gifts TO SUCCEED AND THE ABILITY TO FAIL. As human beings, we do plenty of both. Out of the balance of success and failure, however, we derive CHARACTER, HUMILITY, INTEGRITY OF MIND AND SPIRIT, AND WE EXPERIENCE BOTH JOY AND GRIEF. Living well is not so much about success or achievement (did I hear you say "all is vanity"?), nor is it about the absence of HUMILIATION or SADNESS; trust me, we need all of those experiences. Living well physically, socially, emotionally and spiritually IS ALL ABOUT PROCESS ! If you become privy to playing golf, you will get to know the saying : "it is not how you drive (Rev., excuse me) your balls, it is how you arrive". The process between the tee and the green is what matters.
Living well is about CORRECTING MISTAKES while trying to avoid THEIR REPETITION. Living well is about APOLOGIZING to those we offend while trying to AVOID REPEATED OFFENSES. Living well is about making choices that reduce the MAGNITUDE, FREQUENCY, AND CONSEQUENCES OF OUR FAILURES !
Living well is to VIEW, TO BEHAVE, AND TO RESPECT ALL OTHERS AS WE WOULD HAVE THEM VIEW US, BEHAVE TOWARD US, AND RESPECT US ! This is the plain and simple golden rule of A HUMAN BEING'S LIFE WELL LIVED.
Living well is tantamount TO CHRIST'S LIFE REFLECTED IN OUR LIVES. YES, YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION, YOU CAN PUT THIS ON MY TOMBSTONE !
Subject: The Golden Rule. Is this a Play
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 12:22:13 02/26/07 ()
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Or is it for reaal
Subject: IS THIS CALL TO RETURN HOME APPLICABLE ONLY TO DOCTORS?
From: Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS
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Date Posted: 12:17:26 02/26/07 ()
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International Medical Graduates
Return to Home Country: A Thirty Year Perspective From Nigeria
Sonny F. Kuku, MD, MACP, FWACP, PhD
Lagos, Nigeria
In 1968, during my penultimate year in medical school in Lagos, Nigeria, I went to the University of Rochester School of Medicine, Rochester, New York on a one-year pre-doctoral Fellowship. The experience was so fascinating and rewarding that I decided I must return to the US for residency training. However, in 1971 after qualifying in Medicine I found myself at the Royal Postgraduate Medical School, Hammersmith Hospital, London, where I completed the MRCP, PhD programme in 1974. In October 1974, I was invited back home to Nigeria to take a Faculty position. However, I strongly believed I still needed more practicals training so I took up a senior post-doctoral fellowship at the University of Chicago School of Medicine.
During my stay in Chicago, the whole world opened for me. With my training and qualifications, job offers from all nooks and crannies came to me. The temptation to stay and make a career in the US, as was becoming fashionable at that time, was very great particularly since all my attempts at securing a suitable position at home did not meet with any measure of success. However, I never had any serious thoughts about not going back home. First, I knew and felt that my country needed me more than the developed countries like the US. I also knew that in my country I would be a first class citizen and be more relevant.
At the end of 1975, I took the plunge and returned home without any job offers, determined to find work. My gamble paid off because our dynamic military ruler at that time was an avid newspaper reader who saw a satirical article about me in a newspaper describing me as a man over-qualified to be employed. Employment came a few days later. It is very unlikely that the President of the US would be in a position to invite me a Nigerian in such circumstances and offer me a job if I was still in the US. This immediately justified one of the reasons I insisted on coming back home despite the fact that jobs and life were rosier abroad.
Having arrived home, the first shock was the paucity of the salary and the backwardness of the infrastructure and quality of living. I found I was over qualified for the job I was offered and my scientific training was too high-powered for the kind of laboratories or funds available. However, I decided to put in to use whatever part of my training was applicable rather than continuing my research into the molecular nature of hormones like thyrotrophin, glucaton, etc. I set up a small reference endocrine laboratory that made measurement of hormones available to the whole country for the first time. From the laboratory, I was able to study basic things like normal hormone levels in the African and in pathological states like infertility leading to seminal work affecting lives of a vast number of people and evolutionizing treatment. I probably might have broken the atom if I remained in the US (chance almost nil) but I doubt if my work would have touched so many lives! I have also, building on experience gained from the US, set up a tertiary hospital in the private sector, the only one to be quoted in the Nigerian Stock Exchange.
The contributions I have been able to make in my native country have earned me many accolades the equivalent of which I doubt I would have been able to achieve in several lifetimes as foreigner albeit a legal alien in say the US to wit President of the West African College of Physicians, Pro-Chancellor of a University, Chairman of the Board of a large Federal Hospital, international awards including a direct Fellowship award by the American College of Physicians. To have the kind of lifestyle I have in Nigeria e.g. several cars, chauffeurs, cooks, stewards, nannies and a Greco Mediterranean type home, I would need to make millions of dollars a year in the US. I don't make anything near this here at home. I know that only a miniscule number of colleagues who stayed back in the US or the UK even come near my achievements at home, where as a very large number of people who returned home have excelled and become great achievers.
Although one cannot stop human migration (which in fact might be beneficial to the human race), my advice to those who go abroad for training is that they should as much as possible, return and help develop their country. In so doing they will develop themselves, and with their skills, amass fame and perhaps fortune far in excess of what they may achieve abroad. The initial advantage of a settled life abroad will be overtaken by the fact that in the end people tend to achieve greater height at home than abroad. Returning home by a good majority of those who go abroad to study has one added advantage of allowing others to have the same opportunity. Right now this is not so because the foreign embassies now tend to refuse Visas to young people going abroad to study for fear they might not return.
Brief Bio:
Professor Kuku graduated from medical school in Nigeria and after postgraduate training in the USA and UK including a PhD, he returned to Nigeria. Over the past three decades Professor Kuku has contributed immensely in upgrading the health care in West Africa. He is a basic researcher, endocrinologist, and foremost leading authority in Africa on Infertility and has also started a tertiary care hospital in the private sector.
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Subject: MK SUMA IS DEAD
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M K Suma is Dead!
By Gibril Koroma - Monday 26 February 2007.
Musa Khalil Suma, former SLPMB boss and former SLPP heavyweight and businessman has died in Freetown this morning according to very reliable sources.
Suma, a household name in Sierra Leone because of his prowess in business and politics (he was a very powerful APC politician before joining the ruling SLPP) hailed from Samu in the Kambia district.He was a very brilliant London-trained Economist.
More on this breaking news later.
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Subject: Re: MK SUMA IS DEAD
From: Knice
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Date Posted: 23:12:08 02/26/07 ()
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What's with this sudden plague of death of notable people. Back in January it was Alimamy Koroma; then Chief Samuel Hinga Norman, and now MK Suma. I did not know MK well, but we once had a pleasant evening at a club he owned on the beach. My condolences to his family.
There are larger implications to the death of people like Hinga Norman, Alimamy Koromah, and MK Suma. They came of age around independence in 1961. Hinga Norman was 21 in 1961, and I suppose Alimamy and MK were perhaps some years younger. In quantity and in quality this may well have been the best educated generation in Sierra Leonean history. Yet they never gave full measure of their knowledge in the service of their country. Not because they did not want to. But because their country, once the Athens of Africa, evolved to value shallowness and bravado over knowledge and cool competetence.
Now they are dying off and there are not enough in the wings to replace them. MAY EACH REST IN PERFRFECT PEACE.
Subject: Re: MK SUMA IS DEAD
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 06:28:55 02/27/07 ()
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Knice wrote on February 26, 2007:
"What's with this sudden plague of death of notable people. Back in January it was Alimamy Koroma; then Chief Samuel Hinga Norman, and now MK Suma. I did not know MK well, but we once had a pleasant evening at a club he owned on the beach. My condolences to his family.
There are larger implications to the death of people like Hinga Norman, Alimamy Koromah, and MK Suma. They came of age around independence in 1961. Hinga Norman was 21 in 1961, and I suppose Alimamy and MK were perhaps some years younger. In quantity and in quality this may well have been the best educated generation in Sierra Leonean history. Yet they never gave full measure of their knowledge in the service of their country. Not because they did not want to. But because their country, once the Athens of Africa, evolved to value shallowness and bravado over knowledge and cool competetence.
Now they are dying off and there are not enough in the wings to replace them. MAY EACH REST IN PERFRFECT PEACE."
Knice:
Like you, I would like to extend to the family of Mr. Suma and his friends the sympathy of myself and that of my family.
Unlike you, I had the honor of knowing the late Mr. Suma. You are absolutely correct in your following assessment of him, among others:
"In quantity and in quality this may well have been the best educated generation in Sierra Leonean history. Yet they never gave full measure of their knowledge in the service of their country. Not because they did not want to. But because their country, once the Athens of Africa, evolved to value shallowness and bravado over knowledge and cool competetence."
The above truths, and many others about Mr. Suma, in particular, would become evident when I publish shortly, as time permits, my personal tribute to one of the most brilliant business minds SL has ever produced -- Musa Khalil Suma.
It would replace with facts the vile rumors which have been concocted maliciously about this late, great son of SL by those who know nothing about his legendary capacity for hard work, his dedication excellence in education and to the principles of equal opportunity for all people, regardless of tribe, sex, nationality or social or political affiliation make his tenure at SLPMB absolutely the most successful of any managing director of that important foreign exchange earner of our country.
Subject: Re: MK SUMA IS DEAD
From: MASTER FARMER
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Date Posted: 13:11:23 02/27/07 ()
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would become evident when I publish shortly, as time permits, my personal tribute to one of the most brilliant business minds SL has ever produced -- Musa Khalil Suma
Late Alhaji Koroma master Farmer of Joi joi Ma in Kailahun will be waiting for your tribute to Suma in his coffee farm. Because Sumas PMB still owes him MONEY for his produce. All those Hajas,Alhajis and petty traders that he was selling rice papers to on commission at Musa Khalil Building in PMB office are waiting for your tribute to suma. We are waiting for your tribute to Suma at LAGUNDA and SUMATU RAY GREEN where he spent most of our country's money wheeling and dealing. Papa Shakie, SI, CA, William Conteh and PC Dura are all waiting in the APC cemetery for your tribute to Suma their prodigal son. Kor Yayah Fanusi, Alieu Iscandari and Ernest Koroma are also waiting for you to ask them to sing the APC party Song at his funeral as tribute to a man who help destroyed their party and then do a runner. Because by the look of things he is definitely not going to get one from his new friends the SLPP. They are more interested in trying to mend fences with the late Norma. UNGRATEFULNESS NOR FINE. SUMA CHAP WE MONIE, GEE APC BAD NAME EN RUN AWAY FROM THE PARTY WAE TIN TRANGA.
Subject: Re: MK SUMA IS DEAD
From: THE WAGES OF iGNORANCE
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Date Posted: 14:31:48 02/27/07 ()
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What sober people are waiting for is your omitted explanation for your unpardonable display of rudeness and malic -- circulating the same malicious rumours which Jalloh correctly deplored in people like you, in his posting this morning.
Look, you obviously are not a properly educated person. so, you can be forgiven for not knowing the difference between innuendo and credible proof.
But, you have no excuse for showing such disgraceful bad maners as to malign a person whom you obviously do not know, and whose record, nevertheless, you seek to maliciously impugn.
When are people like you ilk going to start the impossibly long journey towards curing yourselves of your chronic ill manners and defamatory addictions?
Subject: Re: MK SUMA IS DEAD
From: AYE MOH'M JALLOH
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Date Posted: 14:47:29 02/27/07 ()
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MOH'M,
bra you get woke for do? You are on this forum 24/7 using different handles. Bra, blow now , aye bo.
Subject: Re: MK SUMA IS DEAD
From: IDLE TALK
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Date Posted: 14:56:26 02/27/07 ()
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it's not hard to know when you are talking about yourself -- and pretending you are talking about others.
When you start using your real name like Mr. Jalloh openly does, we will know that you have started to take your misdirected advice: "bra you get woke for do? You are on this forum 24/7 using different handles. Bra, blow now , aye bo."
Address the ISSUES AND ONLY THE ISSUES.
Subject: Re: MK SUMA IS DEAD
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 00:46:38 02/27/07 ()
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But because their country, once the Athens of Africa, evolved to value shallowness
to which shallowness some f them contrinuted in no measurable terms
Subject: Re: MK SUMA IS DEAD
From: ANGRY SIERRA LEONEAN
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Date Posted: 08:24:48 02/26/07 ()
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May his cursed soul rest in hell. People like him are responsible for destroying Sierra Leone in ever way they could. Rest in hell forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Subject: Re: MK SUMA IS DEAD
From: Good Manners
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Date Posted: 08:55:47 02/26/07 ()
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Even if you can't help displaying your ignorance of the late Mr. Suma's immense contributions to Sierra Leone's economy, I hope you can at least save us from witnessing your display of the worst type of bad manners.
May God have mercy upon you.
Subject: WHY DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?"
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 04:30:54 02/26/07 ()
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[The following recent exchange addressed the question, "Why did the TRC fail to identify the root cause of SL's "civil war" despite the abundant resources at its disposal for unearthing the truth about the rebel war?" It is is presented here, courtesy of SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, in the continuing effort to keep our fellow S/Leoneans informed about serious issues affecting our country's future. The name of my correspondent is disclosed with permission].
--- In SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, MohmJ@... wrote on Feb 24, 2007:
>
In a message dated 2/23/2007 1:53:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, amadu.massally@... writes:
"It would be helpful if you can close this chapter by offering to us the reason(s) why the TRC failed to identify the primary cause of the war in spite of all the resources committed to it."
Amadu:
Thank you for your implied question. The short answer to it is: I don't know.
The long answer is that, having said that, however, there are several possible reasons that could explain the failure of Sierra Leone's Truth and Reconciliation Commission to accurately identify the root cause of the criminal assault on millions of S/Leoneans by the unpatriotic thugs known as RUF rebels. Those reasons can be classified into two broad categories -- one deliberate, the other accidental. Let us address them in inverse order:
On the one hand, it is possible that, despite its abundant resources for investigating the atrocities (and it did a very good job of documenting them), the TRC simply did not have the analytical capability required to sort through the overlapping layers of motivation among the perpetrators of the "civil war" in order to arrive at the root cause of the conflict.
This could have been an unanticipated result of the decision of the TRC to focus its resources on documenting the atrocities by extensively seeking and obtaining eyewitness and other testimony. That, in turn, could have had the unintended consequence of leaving the TRC with relatively fewer resources (analysts and/or time) to analyze the fundamental cause of the so-called civil war. Consequently, the TRC's conclusion that the war resulted from Sierra Leoneans' increasing conviction that "the structures of governance could only be changed through violence," reflected a failure of analysis. In effect, the conclusion missed the forest for the trees.
On the other hand, it is quite plausible that the TRC knew that the fundamental motivation for the "civil war" was the concerted unquenchable thirst for revenge against President Joseph Momoh's APC government by its twin architects -- but chose to ignore it. Those culprits were Foday Sankoh, the convicted S/Leonean criminal and Charles Taylor, the Liberian fugitive from U.S. justice. Of course, any such deliberate action by the TRC would be an egregious breach of its mandate to seek and publish the truth regarding the decade-long atrocities. However, I reiterate that I am making no such charge, but merely speculating about what may have led the commission to miss what I contend to be the root cause of the criminal assault.
So, what possible reason could the TRC have had for embracing the conclusion that the "civil war" was caused by Sierra Leoneans' increasing conviction that "the structures of governance could only be changed through violence?"
There are several. Chief among them would be the potentially massive influx of foreign aid to SL in a consequent bid by the international community to reform "the structures of governance" in order to prevent another civil war. Indeed, there is ample evidence of this having already occurred, as attested to by the massive amounts of foreign aid to the SL government since the end of the conflict, expressly to promote "good governance." and thereby remove the possibility of a repeat civil war.
Another major reason could be an attempt by the TRC to serve the unquestionably greater interest of the majority of S/Leoneans by deliberately turning the focus of the international community to the longstanding disenfranchisement of the S/Leonean electorate by successive APC governments from 1968 to 1992. The irony of such an attempt by the TRC to falsify the root cause of the recent "civil war" is that it would indeed prevent a future civil war arising from an increasing conviction by Sierra Leoneans that "the structures of governance could only be changed through violence." reflected a failure of analysis. However -- and this is the fundamental point missed by the TRC -- such a conviction did not cause the past "civil war" precipitated by Sankoh and Taylor.
As egregious an assault on the most basic right of citizenship of S/Leoneans as the APC dictatorship of Presidents Stevens and Momoh was, it was not the cause of the Sankoh-Taylor instigated "civil war." This is readily attested to by the fact that neither Sankoh nor Taylor represented a popular movement of S/Leoneans seeking the removal of President Momoh through violent means. Indeed, the additional fact that the RUF rebels forcibly conscr1pted its recruits of child and other soldiers from the populace to its ignoble cause points to its lack of popular support among the general population of S/Leoneans.
That fact alone should have sufficed to restrain the TRC from its highly improbable conclusion that the so-called civil war resulted from Sierra Leoneans' increasing conviction that "the structures of governance could only be changed through violence." The fact that it did not represents a fatal flaw in the TRC's otherwise excellent report.
I hope that the above analysis is useful in answering your implied question. I also hope that it would not be the end of the chapter that, in my humble opinion, should indeed be an appendix to the TRC report, even if belated. Accordingly, I hope all of us can continue this discussion in the hope of arriving at the truth through the inherent promise of one of society's most useful tools -- freedom of speech.
In that regard, I am truly heartened by the participation in this important debate so far -- without any physical or mental injury from the allegedly fearsome debater Moh'm Jalloh [Laugh] -- of a few of our friends here. As you know, they include the pioneering S/Leonean newspaper editor of The Patriotic Vanguard published in Canada, Gibril Koroma and the latest apparent dual-religion convert to Islam (you, my friend). Hopefully, more of our friends would contribute their valuable insights in the interest of our hopefully arriving at the truth about this most bestial period in our country's history.
Kind regards,
Moh'm
--- In SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, "Amadu Massally" >
> In SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, MohmJ@... wrote:
>"Therefore, the conclusion is inescapable that the TRC failed to accurately identify the root cause of the 1991-2002 rebel war in SL by concluding that it resulted from Sierra Leoneans' increasing conviction that "the structures of governance could only be changed through violence." The only remaining question is: How could the TRC have missed identifying the primary cause of the rebel war, with all the resources at its disposal to get to the bottom of the matter? It is an extremely relevant question that cries for an answer."
>
>
> Happy Friday, Moh'm: I know you are currently at JUMA, and I will be going in for that in a few minutes at my brother's Mosque in Atlanta, GA.
>
> The question that you have posed indeed cries for answer. It would be helpful if you can close this chapter by offering to us the reason(s) why the TRC failed to identify the primary cause of the war in spite of all the resources committed to it. So far you have done very well (in my opinion) in providing evidence from one point of view and showing a lack of evidence in another. And the fact that no one seems to dispute your reasoning speaks for itself that there may be some credibility with your line of thought.
Although, it could also be that people are afraid to debate with you in public (and I don't know why, so let me save you from asking me - lol)?
>
> Thanks for your patriotic efforts towards Sierra Leone's development, which are not going unnoticed.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Amadu Massally
>
Subject: Re: WHY DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?"
From: Patrick Musa
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Date Posted: 11:41:03 02/26/07 ()
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I wonder what the writers of the truth commission report would say about this.
Subject: WHAT A HELL IS THIS SPECIAL COURT - AH GAINS!!
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 03:32:02 02/26/07 ()
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Thanks to Kabs that we are able to express our feelings on this forum.
Is it now obvious than ever that no one is going to account for what happened during the long civil war?
What a hell for god's sake was a lot of money and time spent on the so called SPECIAL COURT.
All of the main so called cultprits have died without verdict.
Should we now say that everybody(sierraleoneans) is guilty?
Oh god the almighty father, let justice prevail in the father land.
AY GOD. A GAINS.
Subject: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 23:32:18 02/25/07 ()
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Today I was called by one of my very close friends to view the VH1 channel and what I heard there made so disappointed in our leadership in sierra leone and more particularly in the government of the SLPP. A fellow who had a very un english accent was teling the interviewer that they pay a 5% royalty to the sierra leone government for the diamonds they take out of sierra leone. Now I know that a lot bunch of you who support the SLPP and support its reelection, will want to jump up and down to validate this policy that allows foreigners to steal our countrys wealth, but before you do, THINK.
Is it really in the interest of the people of sierra leone that its diamonds be extracted and that they get ONLY 5% royalty on the diamonds that are declared. Which is why I support Ernest Koromas bid for the leadership of sierra leone. He has made it quite clear that he will not tolerate the continuous plundering of our national assets by unscruulous politicians who are only intent to line up their own pockets at the expense of the rest of the country.
funny that these things are happening under the SLPP the party that was supposed to sve sierra leone and move it foward. This whole policy STINKS. We definitely need a change of government and that can be achieved through the ballot box in sierra leone.
This is ENOUGH. a VOTE FOR THE SLPP is a vote for the massive sale and give away of our natural resources at the expense of the people of sierra leone.
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 06:46:39 02/27/07 ()
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Alieu,
How come Ernest and Co have not made an issue out of this in parliament? Don't they have a say whether or not these so-called policies become adopted??? I am only hearing from them now that elections are around the corner. Truth is, if they are elected, they would follow the same stinking policy or implement ones that are worse.
The APC's record (24 or more years in power) on this issue stinks! So please stop giving us hot air.
If there is regme change, I will prefer the PMDC to APC. APC failed us in the past, and I for one will not give them another chance.
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: Ntei
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Date Posted: 09:25:02 02/27/07 ()
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I for one will not give them another chance.
Thank God its just one stupid YOU
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 10:10:59 02/27/07 ()
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You forgot that your mama is on my side: so that makes 2 of us the stupid ones
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: Ntei
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Date Posted: 20:42:23 02/27/07 ()
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I knew that you would resort to insulting my mother as I predicted. But you do know that on the mother front you are vulnerable.
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 21:58:47 02/27/07 ()
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Like I told you, there a 2 people in the stupid column. You people are very quick to call others stupid. I have tried hard to maintain the high ground on this forum, and I have tried hard to avoid fights with others.
You are the very first person that has really pissed me off on this forum, and I will deal with you if you do not leave me alone. Critisize my positions on issues all you want, but do not call me stupid or use another profanity. If you do, you will regret that you were ever born.
The retaliatory insult I sent you way is just the beginning.
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: REALITY CHECK
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Date Posted: 00:07:44 02/28/07 ()
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You are the very first person that has really pissed me off on this forum,
Really!!!! Man you have been pissed off so many times its unbelievable. Calling people "mother Phockers (sic)" You werent pissed off then? Can just imagine what you would do if you REALY get pissed off. Me No sir I dont want a fight but I still do think that you are stupid though.
Now what did you say was just the begining? It will all fall on deaf ears Un"independent man" and thats your reality check for the week.
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: Bad Heart Detector
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Date Posted: 07:34:46 02/28/07 ()
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Seriously, both you Mr Reality and Ntei are the stupid ones. The man says he prefers PMDC should there be a regime change, and he gives a pretty good reason for it - that APC's record on mining stinks!, and straight off the bat you call him stupid for that. Why are you so intolerant? The man is entitled to his opinion.
What is incorrect in saying that the APC's record on mining in S/Leone stinks? Is that an inaccurate statement?
Go sodom sarful with you bad heart en intolerance. You stupid fool. Wunar too passmark nar this forum with wunar rudeness. Most of wunar nar 50 year old people en older, but wunar behave lek 2 year old dem. You Shameful idiot
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: Ntei
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Date Posted: 10:20:17 02/28/07 ()
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Most of wunar nar 50 year old people en older, but wunar behave lek 2 year old dem.
Some of we nor see 35 yate bra, but ar enjoy you "WUNAR" DE WORD NAR "OONAR". You nar very large kaybass. Nar freetong you pass for get you visa for cam ya so ehn? Becos you nor sabi talk de krio sef. nex tem talk am nar mende we go understand you betteh
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: hehehehehehe
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Date Posted: 11:09:09 02/28/07 ()
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Some of we nor see 35 yate bra, but ar enjoy you "WUNAR" DE WORD NAR "OONAR"
Too funny! ah wonder watin sengbe go reply you say. Heheheheheheheh
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: Stop Talking to Yourself
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Date Posted: 09:04:52 02/28/07 ()
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Your can hate the APC. That is your right as a crude tribalist. But you do not a right to abuse people here. So, stop the rudeness.
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: Bad Heart Detector
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Date Posted: 09:51:14 02/28/07 ()
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You seem very lost in this argument/non-argument.
Independent Man stated that should there be a regime change, he prefers PMDC to APC, because APC's record stinks (his words exactly). What is wrong with that? What is so abusive about what he said?
Ntei was the one who called Independent Man Stupid just because Independent Man stated that he would not vote for APC. So who abused who first?
I jumped into the fray to defend Independent Man because he has the right to state his opinion, and to retaliate when attacked by intolerant people.
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: Stop Talking to Yourself
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Date Posted: 10:16:48 02/28/07 ()
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"Independent Man stated that should there be a regime change, he prefers PMDC to APC, because APC's record stinks (his words exactly). What is wrong with that? What is so abusive about what he said?"
Since it is painfully obvious that you do not only fail to understand what you read, but that you also do not understand what you write, please ask a Good Samaritan to explain to you in language that you understand, the meaning of the abusive words in the following scr1pt you wrote:
"Go sodom sarful with you bad heart en intolerance. You stupid fool. Wunar too passmark nar this forum with wunar rudeness. Most of wunar nar 50 year old people en older, but wunar behave lek 2 year old dem. You Shameful idiot "
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 11:58:20 02/28/07 ()
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stop talking to yourself, ntei, bad heart detector and the so called independent man have totally adulterated and diminished the issue presented by my post. Please lets rewind and go back to the issues presented instead of trading barbs on non issues.
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: MINER
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Date Posted: 09:17:17 02/26/07 ()
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% in other countries
Guinea--3%
Liberia---2.8%
I. Coast--3%
South Africa--5.5%
This is artesenal mining. Most of the benefit goes to the individual. Most Sierra-leoneans are involved in artesenal mining. Big companies like Koidu Holdings pay almost 30 to 40% of their profits to the govt. They also pay other taxes to the govt. Countries charge small % when it comes to artesenal mining becasue of smuggling. Let us please try to understand this issue before we start any sensible debate
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 09:39:27 02/26/07 ()
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Miner, if I say you sound like an APOLOGIST I hope you dont take that to be an insult. You sould have watched the VH1 interview like I did na d then you may not have had the same opinion like I did. The person who made the statement that they pay 5% to the sierra leone government was NOT an artesenal miner. So what do I really care that the Guinea--3%, Liberia---2.8%
I. Coast--3% South Africa--5.5%.
Is it your argument that because these countries that you have named get the percentile amounts that you have stated, so we too must accept the same? Doesnt your rendition of those statistics belie your further argument that Koidu Holdings pays 30 - 40 % of their profits to government?
Come on please start thinking OUTSIDE OF THE BOX of neocolonialism.
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
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Philip,
The land belongs to the landowners but the minerals underneath belong to the state to be exploited legitimately by whoever is legitimately empowered by the state to do so (agreements with local landowners/Chiefs should be obtained) and big companies are required to address environmental and social concerns.
Artisanal mining is in private hands. Big private companies could be made to get involved but the plots are often too small even when agglomerated to make meaningful mining difficult. The 3% was decided by government with the advice of several experts, including De Beers. This is around the same level in neighbouring countries especially Guinea. Having a markedly different level will only serve to encourage smuggling. They will not “hop up and leave” as you say, Philip. They will only evade legitimate channels. This has been proven in many countries including ours. The issue of beneficiation from mining is more than meets the eye.
Best regards,
Andrew
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 11:45:20 02/26/07 ()
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http://www.debeersgroup.com/debeersweb/Investing+in+the+Future/Economics/Supply+chain+value+creation.htm
http://business.iafrica.com/news/410315.htm
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/06/09/business/wbdiams.php
http://www.hoovers.com/free/company-information/--HICID__1478--/free-ind-factsheet.xhtml?cm_ven=Paid&cm_cat=GGL&cm_pla=MST&cm_ite=diamond_industry
EDUCATE YOURSELF ME FREN
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 11:32:14 02/26/07 ()
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Again I canot help but be amazed at your seeming display of shortsightedness. That the 3% was decided by "experts including De Beers" is clear evidence of that. De Beers does not have the interest of sierra leone at heart and cannot be called rightfuly an expert on behalf of our own interests. De Beers is a diamond cartel which controls a majority of the worlds diamond production and it is owned and controled by europeans who benefit at the expense of our people.
Smugling can be curtaild when the diamond mines belong to sierra leone and are thus nationlised in the interest of the country.
So far there is a dearth of evidence to support the fact that "big companies are required to address environmental and social concerns." In fact there is enough evidence that there have been no such undertakings by Koidu Holdings or any other companies which have had full and uncontrolled access to the diamond mining industry of sierra leone since the advent of the SLPP and the NRC before it. Is this clause then worth the paper it is printed on or rather is it a clause the execution of which is left to the discretion of the so called "Big Companies".
I have a solution for smuggling and it may not be so palatable to you. If one is found guilty of smuggling, they should face the firing squad and or hung from the rafters. Now lets see how many people would be willing to smuggle after the first ten are executed. I recently read a story of a Nigerian who was executed in Malaysia for smuggling drugs to Malayasia. I do know that there are quite a few people involved in the smuggling of drugs worldwide but I do know that the death penalty in Malayasia does up the ante and increases the risk of such activity.
In my professional career, I have had to defend some people who have swalowed drugs to enter the US. Wanna how they knew that, simple my friend XRAY. Anyone suspected of having swallowed diamonds to get out of sierra leone is XRAYED. If the diamonds are found then they are charged with a capital offence of ECONOMIC SABOTAGE, and then they face the death penalty.
I have thoroughly enjoyed your yo yo logic which proffers that 3% is charged but that these entities pay huge sums of money to the government in other ways. Pray tell me in what other ways do they do this?
This would work perfectly.
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: Patriot
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"The 3% was decided by government with the advice of several experts, including De Beers."
That is conclusive proof that it is inimical to the interest of the people of Salone. I am sorry to say, but you are speaking like someone suffering from colonial mentality.
Who told you that asking foreign companiwes to pay more than 3% of their revenue from diamonds would lead to smugling? Think, man. Has the presence of the 3% stopped smuggling?
Saloneans can step up and mine their country's diamonds and return far more to the country's tax base and the economy than your so-called experts such as De Beers. In fact De Beers is nothing but an incompetent monopolist. Salone can -- and should -- do better. Check out how Botswana has taken control of its diamobnd industry from the very De Beers and and you will see that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
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"Saloneans can step up and mine their country's diamonds and return far more to the country's tax base and the economy than your so-called experts such as De Beers.".........Patriot
Indeed Sa Lone folks must be seriously engaged in all levels of the mining industry,so as to create maximum
Gain for the Economy. The multiplier effect from the mining Industry could help in increasing Revenue and the creating of Jobs. There is a Global mining Boom, producing huge profits for Corporations and Operators.
The Parliament of Salone must be brave enough to produce A mining Code that all interested parties can live with. Parlimentary action is the key to Maximizing Value from our Natural resources.
Some of us have suggested that the current "sweet heart deals" with mining Companies operating in Sa lone, could be challenged through share holder actions. Publicly traded Companies have certain obligations to their share holders. This approach is simply an effective avenue in effecting Change,Given
the current Dearth of a progressive Mining Regime.
The Nationalization of Resource reserves in current day Salone comes with the risks of Capital flight and unemployment in a vital industry to our Economy. The risk managers in some of these Coporations are keenly aware of this scenario.
CONCERNED Groups like GLOBAL WITNESS, are spending time and resources to help correct the well documentd
Resources Paradox.... BOHKU wealth nar Gron, but some POT NOR DAY BWELL!!!
Many countries that are rich in oil, gas and other minerals are nonetheless mired in poverty and poor government because the public revenues earned from selling these resources have been squandered through corruption and lack of government accountability to citizens.
"Citizens of resource-rich countries cannot hold their governments to account, and ensure that mineral resources are used in a fair and sustainable way, unless they have full information about the management of these resources.
Through field investigations and high-level advocacy, we work to increase transparency in the flow of revenues from oil, gas and mining companies to governments, as well as more transparency in the award of mineral concessions, the trading of resources and the role of banks and other middlemen in resource-related corruption.
Global Witness conceived and co-launched the Publish What You Pay (PWYP) campaign, a civil society coalition with more than 300 member groups around the world, which works to promote greater transparency in the oil, gas and mining industries. We are also a leading participant in the Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative, a global process launched in 2003 which brings together governments, companies and civil society groups to work for greater public disclosure and independent oversight of oil, gas and mining revenues."........GW
Please visit a sight OF relevance to this debate on Natural resources. Support their efforts to bring Changes to our part of the Globe.
TSTM
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Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
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Date Posted: 12:23:16 02/26/07 ()
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Alieu, I appreciate the link. I think our friend arguing for the status quo that has made paupers of our Salone people at the hands of foreign exploiters of our diamonds is going in the opposite direction of where progressive African countries are going.
Check out the article via the link below and you wuill see how African countries are now moving agressively to take over control of their diamonds from De Beers in Botswana, Angola and South Africa. As usual, it is Salone which is always the last to help itsself, thanks to the kind of colonial mentality thinking of the "de Beers expert" apologist.
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 11:48:56 02/26/07 ()
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http://www.minesandcommunities.org/Action/press391.htm
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
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Date Posted: 09:46:35 02/26/07 ()
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You should speak to Andrew Keili about this issue. This issue has been discussed extensively on Leonenet. Forget about the VH1 documentary, my friend.If I want info from salone, I am sensible enough not to rely only on the VHI documentary. This is a fact my man.
We need big time investors in the industry because they pay huge taxes and other royalties to the gov't. The only major company now in the diamond business is Koidu holdings.
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 09:50:18 02/26/07 ()
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and who is Andrew Kelli? BTW my opinion does not come from the VH1 documentary. It comes from knowledge that I have gained elswhere. If they paid such Big taxes to the government then it seems to me that the government would hve put out an official statement from the ministry of finance or minning to that effect, considering that its citizens have really put this issue into the vortex of public debate. Wouldnt you think.
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: MINER
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Myer’s statement that there is complete control of the diamond sector is a bit optimistic. The control has improved considerably over the years and new measures to exert more control are being put in place, with the help of donors. The huge jump referred to by Myers is not because of the “complete control” or “strict controls and monitoring by government officials”. The increased access to mining areas and the plethora of new players that have increasingly come on board over the past few years have also helped.
The article states “Under current law, anyone who can raise $40 000 for a licence fee can be registered as an official dealer.” The writer is mixing up “dealers” and “exporters” and does not allude to the complex issue of licence holders, supporters and the whole issue of beneficiation.
The “potential for $200 m a year” is arguable and depends on who is dong the analysis. Some even higher figures have been floated by some commentators suggesting smuggling is rife but Ministry officials dispute this and suggest smuggling has been largely contained. The Ministry is doing its best but officials will be the first to admit they have capacity problems.
The three percent export fee is always misunderstood and considerably more gets into government coffers and into local and national economy. The economic activity generated by the diamond mining industry creates linkages in terms of indirect employment, increase in trading, demand for goods and the conversion of the generated income to consumption at the local and national level. The various license fees which could amount to as much as $2.5 to $3m a year should also be considered. However a whole range of less tangible beneficiation activities do occur with artisanal mining, which to a certain extent is a means of earning a livelihood. Wages and other emoluments for workers, equipment purchased, business activities engendered should all be included in the economic equation. Perhaps bright economists like my friend Samuel Brima interviewed should be doing this. Large scale mines contribute to the economy in terms of revenue from taxes, duties, etc. Benefits to the nation can be calculated much more easily. A company like Koidu Holdings pays back 42% of its profit to the government in various forms.
To me the real crux of the matter in our country’s development is what to do with the 100000 to 200000 people employed in the artisanal diamond mining sector-many living below the poverty line. These people should perhaps be gradually got into alternative employment pursuits. We have been mining diamonds since 1935 and resources (at least the more amenable ones to exploitation) are being exhausted. Merely giving out more licences, with no recourse to economic mining cut off grades could be a recipe for disaster as it may result not only in wasted effort by the miners but in wanton environmental destruction of land that could have been used more profitably. The matter of the alternative use of land would also have to be carefully considered by the planners as mining is not advisable in many circumstances. Unfortunately, all the present initiatives, however well meant are mainly geared to getting more benefits from “winnings” (a misplaced term as in many cases the mining may not be economic) for the miners and mining communities. This assumes that in all cases, benefits can be got. This is not true in many cases. What we need is a game plan.
Andrew Keili
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Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 12:16:38 02/26/07 ()
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Read this impact statement
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
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Date Posted: 06:22:24 02/26/07 ()
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My brother, it’s a pity that these issues are coming up now, but the policies regarding mining militates against ethnic Sierra Leoneans. The nation as a whole has less than 10 major diamond exporter, mostly foreign nationals or Lebanese claming nationality. The most appalling of this issue is the fact that nationals pay the same cost to export diamonds as these foreign investors or nationals which is between $ 20,000 to 40, 000??. The reason given was that Sierra Leoneans abuse their rights to compete, thus, the government deprives their rights, and confusingly no Sierra Leonean was brought to justice on charges of such abuse/allegation, but yet the peace loving, quiet, blind and ignorant Sierra Leoneans are deprived. I think that there is a very strong manipulation by some cancerous breed of foreign nationals who has succeeded in keep us down, by using our brothers in the civil service, politicians and we should note that this bad policy began with NPRC.
Blood Diamonds movie or Blood on Diamonds commentary are just avenues through which the Sierra Leone is further disgraced, the government’s incompetence and our impoverished selves exposed with no dignity.
Most of these extreme rich people we now esteem in our nation came as ‘refugees’, we have helped them, made them rich at the expense of our brothers, when we were faced with war killing each other, most of them fled, after the war nothing has changed the continue to rule us and run major government business/contracts. Africans should rid ourselves of this slave mentality, most developed nations we flee to started from nowhere, the British and Americans have successfully colonized us, with huge amends owed to them and now our African leaders are again voluntary pledging the continent to China, a nation that needs African more than we do, a nation that has flooded our markets with substandard merchandise and medications. This African continent is really from form formation, can we imagine a starving African country’s president celebrating his birthday party at the cost of $ 1.2 m or a herbalist African president claiming to cure AIDS.
Subject: Re: Take a look at this and the facts and figures are here
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 12:06:03 02/26/07 ()
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http://www.daco-sl.org/encyclopedia/2_coord/2_6/9_1_DEPAC_MMRpresentation.ppt
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 03:36:24 02/26/07 ()
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Thanks a lot Alieu for your article.
Its just now a matter of months and all will be OK.
Their days are now numbered.
Salone Diamond Na We All Yone.
Subject: Re: We get 5 % of the value of our diamonds
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 01:29:23 02/26/07 ()
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I have watched the VH1 Video at least twice. It's about 30 minutes long and shows nothing but suffering and misery in Sierra Leone.
It was brought to my attention by one of my former black American girlfriends, and the pictures are disturbing, to say the least. Given that Westeern TV loves to show that aspect of Africa, that VH1 Video is here to stay. It will be played over and over until everyone sees it.
Subject: Re:Nationalise our Mining Industry NOW
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq.
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Date Posted: 09:27:59 02/26/07 ()
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Bra E.
I must say that I am angry at what I saw in the video yesterday and I thought that the anger would go away after I had slept over it. I woke up this morning and found out that I am more angrier at this callous waste of our natural resources.
In speaking with Ernest Koroma once when I was in freetown, he asked the question of why is it that we do not create industries that process our raw maerials into finished products. Why havent we created a diamond and gold jewelry making industry located in Kono and kailahun wher the diamonds come from.
The only answer to that dilema is that we nationalise our minning industries and that we do it now. Our nation cannot wait for another 25 years to see that we have been making a mistake for the first 65 years of our existence as an independent nation.
Take for example our fishing industries. We have heavy trawlers plying our coastal waters, depleting our fishing resources, processing our shrimp and fish on board these trawlers and transferring them to larger boats all ot at sea beyond the prying eyes of the government and thers nothing that we can do about it. Why do we give fishing licenses to foreign entities to fish our waters on such a large scale without any benefits coming to our country in terms of taxes and jobs for the employed youth.
We must and should only provide fishing licenses and minning licenses ONLY to companies that are in partnership with sierra leoneans and mandate that that the end product is processed in sierra leone. We should have industries that can sardine which we have plenty of and which will create other industries and more jobs.
This elections are going to be all about the future and what it holds for us as a nation. Should we chose to elect the wrong persons, then we can only blame ourselves.
The struggle for our mental and economic emancipation continues
Subject: Re:Nationalise our Mining Industry NOW
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 12:44:27 02/26/07 ()
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Alieu,
The issue you raised like someone pointed a few postings ago is really a funchion to the state structure in Africa. These states including Sierra Leone are not viable structures; consequently they are at the mercy of powerful non-African economic and political forces. What you point out is another reason for a Political Federation in Africa.
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re:Nationalise our Mining Industry NOW
From: SIAKA STEVENS
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Date Posted: 09:28:49 02/26/07 ()
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Siaka Stevens all over again.
Subject: Re:Nationalise our Mining Industry NOW
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 09:47:10 02/26/07 ()
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That I guess makes him a NATIONALIST who has the interest of sierra leone at heart not the interests of Foreign concerns who are getting wealthier while are people are becoming more mirred in poverty and while government counts their achievements by how much debt has been forgiven when we have enough natural resources to become a lender nation rather than a BEGGAR nation. Think about it. If This makes me a siaka stevens, then thas what I am. The old make was indeed a sage and way ahead of his time when compared to what we have now.
Subject: SIERRA LEONE GREATEST SERVANTS AND HEROES
From: Dr. Michel Sho- Sawyer
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Date Posted: 13:38:00 02/25/07 ()
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Y S L I
YOUTH FOR SIERRA LEONE IMPROVEMENT
YSLI Continue to Honor those Sierra Leoneans whose shoulders we now stand upon. Let us remember their sacrifice by starting to serve our nation and continue to serve her peacefully. These are men and women who have dedicated their lives to the service of their country and fellow men. YSLI is hereby honoring these individual in recognition of Back History Month.
Youth For Sierra Leone Improvement Presents
"Footsteps To Achievement"
Making a Difference In Education and Democratic Awareness Through Sierra Leone Youths Self Determination
March 31st, 6:00pm - 10:30pm
Long Branch Community Center at 8700 Piney
Branch Road, Silver Spring, Maryland, 20781
SIR MILTON AUGUSTUS STRIEBY MARGAI
(1895-1964)
ARCHITECT OF SIERRA LEONE INDEPENDENCE AND FIRST PRIME MINISTER
Sir Milton Margai was born in Gbangabatoke in what is now Banta Chiefdom, Moyamba District, on December 7, 1895. The eldest son of the prominent businessman, Mr. M.E.S. Margai of Bonthe, he received primary and secondary education at the E.U.B. school, Bonthe, and the Albert Academy in Freetown, respectively. In 1921, he obtained his B.A. degree from Fourah Bay College. He then went to Britain where he obtained an M.A. degree and studied medicine at King's College, Durham, graduating in 1926.
Sir Milton had a string of firsts to his name: first Protectorate man to graduate from Fourah Bay College, first Protectorate man to qualify as a medical doctor, founder of the first Protectorate newspaper (the Sierra Leone Observer), Sierra Leone's first Chief Minister, Prime Minister and Privy Councillor.
He was a distinguished member of the Colonial Medical Service who pioneered social welfare and hygiene education in remote areas of the Protectorate. He encouraged leaders of the Mende women's secret society, the Sande, to include training courses in hygiene, literacy and childcare in their programme of initiation for young girls. These courses were taught by qualified instructors, most of whom were trained by Sir Milton himself.
In 1950, Sir Milton retired from the government medical service and set up private practice. As a result, he had more time to devote to politics. He was from the very beginning an active member of the Protectorate Educational Progressive Union (PEPU) which later merged with the Sierra Leone Organisation Society (SOS) to form the Sierra Leone People's Party (SLPP) of which he became the first national chairman. After the 1951 elections, he became Leader of Government Business, and in 1954, Chief Minister.
In politics, Sir Milton was the consummate negotiator and a skilful strategist. At the time he entered politics, Sierra Leone was divided into Colony and Protectorate with separate and different political systems. Antagonism between the two entities came to a head in 1947 when proposals were introduced to provide for a single political system for both the Colony and the Protectorate, with an unofficial African majority in the Legislative Council, most of whom were to come from the Protectorate. The Creoles of the Colony naturally opposed the proposals whose effect would have been to diminish their political power. Joining the Creoles in opposition to some aspects of the proposals, however, were the educated elite of the Protectorate who saw in the proposals a means of transferring the dominant position of the chiefs from the Protectorate Assembly to the Legislative Council. It was due to the astute politics of Sir Milton that the younger, educated Protectorate elite were won over to join forces with the chiefs in the face of Creole intransigence. Later, Sir Milton was to use the same skills to win over opposition leaders and moderate Creole elements to his United Front government for the achievement of independence. He offered top ministerial positions within the SLPP cabinet to such opposition leaders as Albert Margai, who had earlier broken away from the SLPP to form the PNP; C.B. Rogers-Wright, leader of the main surviving Creole party, the UPP; and G. Dickson-Thomas, leader of the IPP, a splinter of the UPP. As a result of this, the leaders agreed to disband their parties to serve under the banner of the SLPP.
An important aspect of Sir Milton's character was his self-effacement. He was neither corrupt nor did he make a lavish display of his power or status. Although he was conservative, he was tolerant of his opponents, and was not one to insist on having his way all the time. These qualities endeared him to all Sierra Leoneans who loved, respected and admired him. Many Sierra Leoneans look back to the age of "Pa," as he was fondly known, as one of the almost idyllic stability, and there can be no doubt that Sir Milton left deep and indelible footprints on the sands of time.
SIR ALBERT MICHAEL MARGAI
(1910-1980)
SECOND PRIME MINISTER
Sir Albert was born on October 10, 1910, at Gbangbatoke, Banta Chiefdom (now in the Moyamba District) and was educated at St. Edward's Secondary School, Freetown.
He first worked as a nurse from 1931 to 1944, then proceeded to Britain to study law at the Inner Temple Inns of Court where he qualified in 1948. He returned to Sierra Leone and enrolled as a solicitor and advocate in the Supreme Court and set up private practice.
Sir Albert played an active role in the debates over the Stevenson Constitution and was one of the chief spokesmen for protectorate interests. He held cabinet positions in Education, Agriculture, Natural Resources and Finance between 1951 and 1964. In 1951, he was elected to the Legislative Council as the first Protectorate Member, and became the first Minister of Education when he was appointed to the cabinet in 1952. In 1957, he was returned to parliament in the general elections as M.P. for Moyamba South Constituency. Shortly after the elections, he challenged his brother for the leadership of the party and was elected leader of the S.L.P.P. but later stepped down for his elder brother after he had been guaranteed that his closest ally, Siaka Stevens, would return to the cabinet. It was Sir Milton's failure to honour this and other pledges that led Albert to refuse the cabinet position he had been offered, and to form his own party, called People's National Party, in September 1958. He was appointed Minister of Agriculture in the United Front Coalition in 1959. In 1962, he was returned as M.P. for Moyamba South Constituency and was appointed Minister of Finance. He introduced the decimal currency, established the "leone" as legal tender, and created the Bank of Sierra Leone as our Central Bank. He became Prime Minister on April 29, 1964, following the death of Sir Milton.
At the time he became leader of the S.L.P.P. and Head of Government, Sir Albert was no longer a young man, but he did not enjoy the reverence which old age had bestowed upon his elder brother. As the first up-country lawyer, he was highly respected but, unlike Sir Milton, did not enjoy the support and confidence of all factions of his party. As the recognised leader of the progressive wing of the S.L.P.P., he advocated a faster pace of development for Sierra Leone and took an "African" stand on most international issues. Sir Albert was also known to have advocated less attachment to traditional institutions, and while he was leader of the People's National Party (PNP), he openly asked traditional rulers to stay out of politics.
As Prime Minister, Sir Albert, who had come to be popularly known as "Big Albert," "Albert of Africa," and "Akpata," infused dynamism and glamour into the somewhat sedate politics of Sierra Leone.
He had great respect and admiration for Presidents Sekou Toure and Kwame Nkrumah, and sought to emulate the two leaders in their stands on international issues and their preoccupation with politicising the mass of their people. Sir Albert personified the African personality both in his attire and his public utterances on African issues.
Until he came on the scene, S.L.P.P. politics was largely a conservative affair left to chiefs, elders and opinion leaders. Sir Albert added glamour by increasing pomp and pageantry in the office of Prime Minister. Outriders on motorcycles and police landrovers with blaring sirens became more conspicuous. Gaily attired women in ashobi, young men in party t-shirts, praise singers and drummers also became a regular feature of the political scene. With the introduction of the institution of Mammy Queens, women suddenly became important in politics, organising their fellow women in sections to provide political support for the leadership.
In his attempt to project himself as a symbol of national unity and as catalyst for mobilising the progressive forces of the country, Sir Albert found himself in the same dilemma in which many African leaders of his time found themselves. His impatience with the gradualism of the older generation, and his revolt against their authority, not only alienated him from a section that still had considerable sway, but also opened him to attacks from younger elements who perceived his efforts as not going far enough.
Racked by accusations of corruption in high places and of disregard for the interests of significant sectors of the population, Sir Albert lost the 1967 elections to the opposition A.P.C., and in the process became the first and only leader of an African state to have officially lost an election.
In spite of the failings of his regime, this genial giant who was wont to threaten to shoot down his opponents, brrr...had profound respect for the law and the constitution of the land. He relied on legal rather than extra-legal means in his fight against his opponents, and in the process helped to preserve a sacred heritage.
EUSTACE HENRY TAYLOR CUMMINGS
(1890-1967)
PUBLIC SERVANT AND CONCERNED CITIZEN
Eustace Taylor-Cummings was Mayor of Freetown from 1948 to 1954. His contribution to the medical service as a doctor, to civic duties as mayor, and to fostering education in Sierra Leone is an example worthy of emulation.
Eustace was born the son of a leading Krio merchant, Emmanuel Cummings, who had himself been Mayor of Freetown. As would be expected from this background, he had the opportunity of the best education that could be offered in Sierra Leone at the time. He attended the Wesleyan Boys High School (now Methodist Boys' High School) and, from 1909 to 1911, studied at Fourah Bay College. He then proceeded to Britain, where he became the first African to qualify as a doctor from the University of Liverpool.
After working in Birmingham as a doctor for a short while, he returned home in 1920 and joined the medical service. Those were the days when European doctors did not care to serve under a black doctor, and many resigned rather than accept this. Eustace Cummings was first attached to the Sanitation Department. In that position, he made an extensive tour of the protectorate. He also worked to improve the sanitary conditions of Freetown in particular and the colony in general, advocating a proper drainage system and proper ventilation in houses. By the time of his retirement in 1947, he had risen to the rank of Senior Medical Officer.
Eustace Cummings was also very active in civic affairs in Freetown, achieving the position of Mayor of Freetown in 1948. He first joined the Freetown City Council as nominated member in 1936, and held this position until he became mayor. As mayor, he was instrumental in establishing the system which has now become the municipal schools in Freetown, starting with the Interim Municipal (now Regent Square) School. He also successfully pressed the colonial government to build these new schools in Freetown.
Eustace Cummings was a member of the Commission on Higher Education in West Africa, appointed by the British government in 1943. This commission's report resulted in the establishment of the University Colleges of Ibadan and the Gold Coast. Cummings recommended that Fourah Bay College be retained for the time being as a college of Durham University and then be allowed to develop as an autonomous university, which turned out to be precisely the way things developed.
When the colonial government threatened to reduce the status of Fourah Bay College to that of a technical college in 1944, Cummings was one of the concerned citizens who formed the "Save the Fourah Bay College" Committee to mobilise popular support against the move.
From 1950 to 1953, Cummings was President of the Fourah Bay College Council, the governing body of the college, being the first Sierra Leonean to hold that position. In 1960, he was awarded the Doctor of Civil Laws by Durham University in England. He lived a very upright life as an active churchman, and died in 1967.
LAMINA SANKOH
(1884-1964)
CHAMPION OF INTEGRATION
Ethelred National Jones was born at Gloucester in the Mountain District of Freetown on June 28th, 1884. From the 1920s onwards, he used the name Lamina Sankoh. He was one of the most prominent and fearless leaders in pre-independence Sierra Leone, and one of those most dedicated to the unification of colony and protectorate. An astute politician, he founded one of the first political parties, the Peoples Party, in 1948. He was also a radical churchman, and a political writer, analyst and educator.
He was educated at the village school at Gloucester, the Cathedral School, Albert Academy and the C.M.S. Grammar School. He went to Fourah Bay College where he graduated with a B.A. He entered Wycliffe College, Oxford, where he read Theology and Philosophy.
Lamina Sankoh returned home in 1924, but his relations with the church were not so cordial because of his controversial sermons. He was ordained a priest and appointed curate of Holy Trinity Church, a post he held until 1927. During his curacy, he also lectured Logic at Fourah Bay College. He was dissatisfied with the lack of progressive thinking in the Church in Sierra Leone. He therefore resigned his curacy and again proceeded to Britain where he read Education at Oxford. A year later, he travelled to the United States where he taught at Tuskegee Institute at Alabama, Lincoln University in Pennsylvania and the State College at Orangeburg, South Carolina. In 1930 he went back to Britain where he was active in the West African Students Union (WASU), a political pressure group agitating for self-government. He was a regular contributor to the WASU Journal, of which he later became editor.
He returned to Sierra Leone in the early 1940s, and he immediately embarked on political and civic activities. He was at the same time untiringly involved in settling the political conflict between colony and protectorate. He took an active role in the reconstruction of the Freetown City Council and was elected a councillor for the Central Ward in 1948. He taught courses at the Extra-Mural Department of F.B.C. and was at one time President of the Freetown Adult Education Society. He founded the Sierra Leone ARO (Co-Operative) Society and established a Penny Savings Bank for his supporters. In 1948, he started a newspaper in Freetown called "The African Vanguard." He established an African church where theology and philosophy were relatively free of Western influences.
It was however in national politics that this competent political philosopher made his most lasting impact. He founded the (People's) Forum, a cultural organisation intended to examine the values held by Sierra Leoneans. When almost the entire colony was misguided enough to uphold the idea of a "united country based on segregation and prescr1ptive rights," this colony-born man had the courage to stand by his conviction that Sierra Leone was one country, and that its inhabitants should live and work as one. He merged his People's Party with the Sierra Leone Organisation Society and, through the merger, the S.L.P.P. was born. He also transferred ownership of The African Vanguard to the new party.
Lamina Sankoh was a popular and dedicated nationalist who, with other men of his time, introduced intellectualism into Sierra Leone politics. His untiring efforts to unite colony and protectorate, for which he is always fondly remembered, constitute a significant contribution to the process of national integration.
JOHN KAREFA-SMART
(1915)
LEADING POLITICIAN AND INTELLECTUAL
John Karefa-Smart was born at Rotifunk, Bumpe Chiefdom in what is now Moyamba District. He is one of Sierra Leone's most articulate politicians.
He was educated at the E.U.B. Primary School, Rotifunk, the Albert Academy, and then Fourah Bay College. Later, he went to Otterbein College in the United States and McGill University in Canada. In the course of this academic activity, he acquired the degrees of B.A., M.Sc., C.M., D.T.M. He worked in various parts of the world, and was Regional Medical Officer for the West Africa Region of the World Health Organisation.
Dr. John Karefa-Smart entered politics in 1957. He was a foundation member of the Sierra Leone Organisation Society, which later became the S.L.P.P. He was active in the constitutional committees that eventually led to Sierra Leone's independence in 1961. In 1957, he was appointed Minister of Lands, Mines and Labour with special responsibilities for Defence. After the 1962 elections, Dr. John Karefa-Smart was appointed Minister of External Affairs, a position which he used to foster the good image of the young nation. It was in his term of office as Minister of External Affairs that Sierra Leone established diplomatic relations with several countries.
Dr. John Karefa-Smart is known in Sierra Leone as a politician rather than as a medical doctor — which is actually his profession. This was because he devoted most of his time to the nationalist struggle. He will be remembered for the intellectual vigour which he introduced into the politics of Sierra Leone.
KANDE BUREH
(1908)
PROMINENT POLITICAL FIGURE
Kande Bureh was born Saidu Bai Kamara in 1908 at Mange Bureh in what is now Port Loko District, Northern Province. He started his primary education at the A.M.E. School, Mange, and also learnt Arabic through the articulate Arabic scholar, Santigie Rembu. In 1920, Kande Bureh left his native home of Mange to settle in Freetown, where he attended the Methodist Boys' High School and later qualified as a teacher.
His abiding desire to educate the young and prepare them for a better future, and his unquenchable urge to spread knowledge far and wide, saw Kande Bureh serving as a teacher for well over fifteen years. He taught at the Bethel Primary School at Kossoh Town, Freetown; later he moved to the Ebenezer Amalgamated School and then to the Madrassa Islamia.
He left the teaching field in 1945 and was elected Tribal Headman for the Temne community in Freetown. At this stage in his life, Kande Bureh wanted to do more work for his people. His major task, and one which he successfully accomplished, was to bring about a closer relationship between the various ethnic groups. He worked amicably with other tribal leaders and, in his desire to foster participation and integration in Sierra Leone, founded several friendly societies such as Murkaramin, the now legendary Ambas Geda, and the Temne Progressive Union. Through these various organisations, over eleven mosques were built to cater to the religious needs of his people. The mosques were also utilised as "barries" where people met and discussed social and political issues. Thus Kande Bureh started a development which contributed to the enlightenment of his countrymen in the drive towards independence. He sponsored the Ahmadiyya Muslim Movement in Freetown and also helped the Movement secure lands at Rokupr, Bo, Boajibu and several other towns in the provinces.
Kande Bureh eventually entered national politics. He joined the Sierra Leone Organisation Society (SOS) formed by the protectorate elite. In mid-1951, the SOS which, until then, was essentially an instrument for educational advancement in the protectorate, was dissolved and in its place, a political party, the Sierra Leone People's Party (SLPP), was formed. Following elections in 1957, in which the SLPP emerged as the victorious party, Kande Bureh was appointed Minister of Works and Housing. After the 1962 elections, he became Minister of Transport and Communications and, on several occasions, acted as Prime Minister.
Kande Bureh is a prominent member of that great generation of leaders from the then protectorate who guided the transition from colonial rule to national independence.
AMADU WURIE
(1898-1977)
DEDICATED EDUCATIONIST
Alhaji Amadu Wurie was one of Sierra Leone's foremost educators in the 20th century. An active politician, he was appointed Minister of Education in the first post-independence Sierra Leone government.
He was born in Gbinti on the estuary of the Melacourie River. His father, Paramount Chief Bai Sheka Bundu, was one of the principal supporters of Bai Bureh during the 1898 uprising against the British.
Amadu Wurie was a foundation pupil of the Bo School in the Southern Province, established in 1906 to cater for the education of sons and nominees of chiefs. In 1916, he was among the first pupils of that school to succeed to the Civil Service Entrance Examination. He was appointed an Assistant Master at the school in 1916, subsequently rising to the rank of Senior Assistant Master in 1925. In 1927 he suggested the formation of the Old Bo Boys' Association (O.B.B.A.), serving first as general secretary and later as president of this organisation which was the inspiration for many other old boys' clubs in the country. On several occasions between 1933 and 1935 Amadu Wurie served as Acting Principal of the school, the first African to fulfill such a role.
From Bo, he moved on to Koyeima School, Bo District, where he served as headmaster from 1935 to 1942. In the latter year, he became Education Officer, a post he held until 1952 when he was appointed the first principal of the Kenema Secondary School. In 1953, he was appointed a member of the Port Loko District Council and Chairman of the Port Loko Education Authority. In 1955, he was appointed Provincial Education Secretary, Northern Province. Six years later, he became a member of the Mine Workers' Wages Board.
By 1961, when Sierra Leone became independent, Amadu Wurie had served in most of the districts in the country. His connection with the country's leading political figures dated from his Bo School days. As early as the late 1940s, he had become an active member of the Protectorate Educational Progressive Union (P.E.P.U.), which then comprised most of the protectorate elite. In 1962, he entered parliament under the Sierra Leone People's Party (S.L.P.P.) banner and was appointed Minister of Education in recognition of his life-long devotion to teaching. After the cabinet crisis following Albert Margai's appointment as prime minister in 1964, Amadu Wurie was one of the few prominent northern ministers loyal to the new head of government. He later served as Minister of the Interior. In 1964 he was awarded the C.B.E. (Companion of the British Empire) for his significant contribution to the educational progress of the country.
After the 1967 general election, in which he lost his seat, Amadu Wurie retired into private life at Mahera, near Lungi, in the Port Loko District. During this period, he made a pilgrimage to Mecca. In January 1973, the University of Sierra Leone conferred on him the honorary degree of Doctor of Civil Laws.
Besides politics, Amadu Wurie also took a lively interest in the history of the country, especially that of his Fula ancestors, the Bunduka, in whose territory he collected many oral traditions. These were published in the Journal, Sierra Leone Studies. While in retirement, he co-authored (with Elizabeth Hirst) a biography of his grandfather, Alimamy Rassin, which was published in 1968.
He died on June 13, 1977.
ELLA KOBLO GULAMA
(1921-)
PARAMOUNT CHIEF AND NATIONAL POLITICIAN
The introduction of party politics in Sierra Leone ushered in the active participation of women in national affairs. Although their number was small, the few that ventured into politics became very prominent. One such notable woman has been Ex-Paramount Chief Madam Ella Koblo Gulama.
Madam Ella, as she is fondly called, succeeded her late illustrious father, Julius Gulama, as Paramount Chief of Kaiyamba Chiefdom, Moyamba District, in 1953. Thereafter, she became actively involved in national politics with the support and encouragement of Sir Milton Margai and Sir Albert Margai. She became a member of the Moyamba District Council and was elected to the House of Representatives in 1957 — the first ever woman member of that august body. She was re-elected to parliament in May, 1962 and appointed the first woman cabinet minister.
She became a close ally of both Sir Milton and Sir Albert. But it was essentially during the brief period of Sir Albert's premiership that she gained a reputation as one of the most powerful members of the government.
This pioneer of women's liberation in modern Sierra Leone politics went into temporary political limbo after Sir Albert's fall from power, before bouncing back as an APC stalwart and leader of the Moyamba District APC Women's Organisation in the early 1970s.
Born in 1921 at Moyamba, Ella was educated at the Harford School for Girls, and the Women Teacher's College, then at Wilberforce. Although she ruled a predominantly Mende chiefdom, Ella Koblo married a powerful Temne paramount chief from the north of Sierra Leone, Ex-Paramount Chief Bai Koblo Pathbana, in 1946. This association may have contributed to the process of national integration.
All who get to know Madam Ella Koblo Gulama for even a brief period are fascinated by her charm, engaging presence and public spiritedness. She is undoubtedly one of the most colourful and resourceful women national figures who have contributed to the political development of Sierra Leone.
SIR BANJA TEJAN-SIE
(1917-)
SECOND GOVERNOR-GENERAL
Sir Banja Tejan-Sie, one of Sierra Leone's most prominent politicians during the colonial and post-colonial periods, was born on August 7th 1917 at Moyamba, in what is today the Southern Province of Sierra Leone.
He was educated at the Bo Government Secondary School and the Prince of Wales School. Before proceeding for further studies, he worked as a station clerk in the Sierra Leone Railway from 1938 to 1939 and as a nurse in the Medical Department from 1940 to 1946. He went to Britain and studied at the London School of Economics, and at Lincoln's Inn, where he was subsequently called to the Bar in 1951.
Sir Banja returned home and set up private practice. He also became involved in politics, and was one of those who agitated for an end to colonial rule. Sir Banja was a prominent member of the Sierra Leone People's Party from its inception, and was elected vice-president of the party in 1955. In 1958, he was appointed Police Magistrate, but he continued to be quite active in politics, and was a member of the Independence Constitutional Committee. In 1967, he was appointed Chief Justice and, in April 1968, he was appointed officer performing the functions of the Governor-General.
Sir Banja Tejan-Sie quit politics in the wake of the introduction of the Republican Constitution in 1971 and retired to London. In April 1987, he visited Sierra Leone, heeding President Momoh's call for national reconciliation.
MOHAMMAD SANUSI MUSTAPHA
(1903-)
DEDICATED MUSLIM, BUSINESSMAN,AND POLITICAL LEADER
Alhaji Mohammad Sanusi Mustapha has made lasting contributions in the fields of Islam, education, commerce, and politics. And, indeed, he stands in a long and proud tradition of Islamic leadership in Sierra Leone stretching back to the early history of this country.
M.S. Mustapha was born in the Oku community of Fula Town in the east end of Freetown, and has maintained a life-long attachment to that historic area. His parental grandfather, Alpha Abubakar Bilal, was the first Freetown merchant to start trading up the Scarcies River in the last century. His maternal grandfather, Sheikh Ibrahim Njai, was a Wolof from Senegal who was a noted Islamic teacher and writer in Kambia at the time of Foday Tarawaly's great Islamic University there.
As a child, Mohammad Sanusi Mustapha was a gifted student, and was at one point head prefect at the Prince of Wales School. He went on the read law at Lincoln's Inn. M.S. Mustapha spent the early years of his career in the civil service, while growing more and more active in public affairs. In 1935, he was Honorary Secretary of the East Ward Rate Payers Association, one of the major pressure groups in the colonial politics of the time. During that period, he was also Assistant Secretary of the National Congress of British West Africa. In 1951, he was elected to both the Legislative Council for Freetown and the Executive Council, and from there his rise was rapid. M.S. Mustapha was one of the founders of the Sierra Leone People's Party (S.L.P.P.), and was among the first Sierra Leoneans to be appointed to cabinet rank in 1953. He was a member of the delegation for constitutional talks in London which ushered in Sierra Leone's independence in 1961. Between 1953 and 1964, Alhaji Mustapha held several cabinet portfolios, including Finance, Works and Transport, and Trade and Industry. He continued to serve in parliament into the 1980s, on one occasion serving as Acting Vice-President II, and is still a member of the Governing Council and Central Committee of the A.P.C.
But quite aside from his brilliant political career, Alhaji Mustapha has also been a dynamic leader in the field of business. At a time when educated Sierra Leoneans avoided business as something beneath their social station, he launched himself with vigour into the world of commerce. In 1946, he helped to establish Mustapha Brothers and Company, Importers and Exporters, a thriving business venture. Alhaji Mustapha was the first Sierra Leonean to do local rice milling. He became a licensed buying agent for the Produce Marketing Board in 1950, and was President of the Association for Buying Agencts for the S.L.P.M.B. in 1967. His commercial success is an invaluable example at a time of great need for diverse forms of indigenous private enterprise in this country.
Along the way, Alhaji Mustapha has also made important contributions to the Islamic community and to the field of education. He has been a Muslim leader in the Fulah Town area for half a century and a force in the Sierra Leone Muslim Congress for over forty years, and he was instrumental in 1958 in launching the Sierra Leone Muslim Congress Secondary School at Kissy. When the British colonial authorities wanted at one point to reduce Fourah Bay College to the status of a technical college, Alhaji Mustapha helped organise the "Save Fourah Bay College Committee" and, as Joint Secretary, toured the then protectorate whipping up support. In 1987, the University of Sierra Leone awarded Alhaji Mustapha the degree of Doctor of Civil Laws in recognition of his many contributions to Sierra Leone's advancement.
For many years, Alhaji Mohammad Sanusi Mustapha has been known fondly as "Akpata," from the Yoruba expression akpata kin gberu ojo, meaning watasay ston noh de fred ren. And, indeed, Alhaji Mustapha, like the watasay ston, has persevered and endured in many trying and challenging circumstances — much to the betterment of his fellow countrymen.
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Subject: THE HINGA NORMAN AFFAIR FROM A LAY MAN'S POINT OF VIEW
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 11:25:13 02/25/07 ()
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The case of Chief Hinga Norman {RIP} has always baffled me beyond descr1ption. His arrest and detention was as controversial as the counter-insurgency group he led to defeat the RUF. First, I held the view that Hinga Norman's downfall needed some lawyerly explanations to clarify the legalese to an ordinary Sierra leonean. The jurisdiction of the court that ordered his arrest was singularly bold in whisking a cabinet Minister off to jail with the powers of the State still invested in him as a member of the Executive. In the eyes of a legally untutored Sierra Leonean, that aspect of the drama naturally leads to another question: Was the Sierra Leone government privy to the court's decision to arrest one of its cabinet ministers?
A court of law do not generally need to inform government about an impending arrest of a functionary of the State. In this case, the Special Court needed a nod of approval from the Sierra Leone government to arrest and detain a political Sierra Leonean inside the borders of Sierra Leone. The Special Court may have a lot of powers to arrest suspects, but an arrest warrant can hardly be executed without the cooperation of the State harboring the suspect. A move to arrest Charles Taylor in Ghana, for example, was aborted because the Ghanaian government balked at handing over a suspect it had invited on its soil for peace talks.
Was the Government of Sierra Leone completely oblivious of the possibility that Hinga Norman could be arrested by the Special Court? Did the buck come to a stop after Hinga Norman's arrrest? Apparently, Hinga Norman's arrest did not generate any consternation within the Sierra Leone government. Again, that leaves many ordinary Sierra Leoneans with conspiratorial theories that saw the arrested Minister as a man thrown to the wolves by mightier predators within his own government. Otherwise, how can a government that {partly} owes its second coming to power through Hinga Norman's military ingenuity, sit back and watch him fade away? I have often tried to theorize about the APC's reaction to an arrest warrant aimed at an EKUTAY member like the late Bambay Kamara. Will the master tacticians in EKUTAY sit back and let Bambay, or deputy Army Commander, Brigadier Thoronka, die in infamy for saving the APC with every usable military invention? I grew up being ruled by Sierra Leonean politics, but the intricacies of the Hinga Norman affair are murkier than my interpretative ability.
Subject: Re: THE HINGA NORMAN AFFAIR FROM A LAY MAN'S POINT OF VIEW
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
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Date Posted: 20:12:44 02/25/07 ()
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Chief Hinga Norman was a very distinguish Sierra Leonean who made a lot of sacrifices for his country.He started off as a soldier who was always ready to defend the territorial integrity of his country,then he was elected a traditional leader(chief) by his people.When a group of ill-mannered men and women calling themselves the RUF, took up arms against the defenseless people of Sierra Leone,chief Norman formed a civil defense group that protect his people.
When true democracy was brought back to our country,in 1996,Chief Norman was appointed a minister of government(deputy defense minister and minister of internal affairs).
We regret the fact that the special court claimed that it had enough evidence that the kamajors committed war crimes and the court decided to indict the Kamajor leader,Chief Norman.
I am sure that at the end of the trial, if the chief was alive,he would have walked out of the court, clean and be a free man.
Our adversaries should understand that Chief Hinga Norman was not arrested because he was a minister nor was he indicted by the SLPP.The special court has a mandate from the international community to
bring to justice all those who committed war crimes.
Chief Norman was very loyal to the SLPP and there was not way we will want to punish him unlawfully.
Ungratefulness is not part of the SLPP and that's what makes us different from the APC(the only party,that killed those who stood up for it, using questionable means).
Subject: Re: THE HINGA NORMAN AFFAIR FROM A LAY MAN'S POINT OF VIEW
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 20:49:34 02/25/07 ()
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Bra Saidu, Sekeh wan.
Toh Peh anderrah? I am speaking my "jagged-up" Temne to you because I assume you are Temne.
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The court's desire to bring justice to Sierra Leone is a very beautiful idea after Sierra Leone's ugly bloodletting. However, my lay man's mind has never stopped wondering how Chief Norman could be swooped upon in Freetown without the slightest legal response from the government he served as militia leader. When he was arrested, the man was a Honourable Minister. How does the government explain the fact one of those in its echelons of power stood accused of war crimes without a single move on the side of that government to mount a legal defence in the suspect's favor?
In enduring democracies, a government that employs an alleged war crimes suspect could be asked to resign by the opposition. I may never stop wondering why the government of Sierra Leone stood by and let Chief Norman pass away in the same manner as Maskita, Sankoh and those deemed enemies of the state by the Government he {Mr. Norman} served in every studious capacity. If it smells like a conspiracy, it could be conspiratorial. You cannot put Donald Rumsfeld on trial for war crimes without confronting the entire Right Wing and the Republican party over the toughest fight in your life. Rumsfeld is history now, but the government and party he served will strain every muscle to defend him against prosecution. The reason? You cannot indict Rumsfeld without implying that the Bush administration is criminal. Serving military officers can be arrested and tried for Abu Ghraib, but the policy makers in the Bush administration cannot go down without resistance from the White House and the Right Wing. At least for their own sake, the SLPP could have helped the Chief save face.
Subject: Re: THE HINGA NORMAN AFFAIR FROM A LAY MAN'S POINT OF VIEW
From: GOOD QUESTION
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Date Posted: 13:52:47 02/25/07 ()
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"Will the master tacticians in EKUTAY sit back and let Bambay, or deputy Army Commander, Brigadier Thoronka, die in infamy for saving the APC with every usable military invention?"
BRA ENVIABLE, I was never looking at it from that point. You made a very debatable point. Will the APC let the late Bambay Kamara die in jail for committing atrocities to save the APC? I think this is a question for posterity to discuss in Sierra Leone
Subject: Re: THE HINGA NORMAN AFFAIR FROM A LAY MAN'S POINT OF VIEW
From: FARRAH MARRAH
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Date Posted: 12:10:02 02/25/07 ()
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BRA ENVIABLE,
Why didn't you respond to my posting?
I have my own views on this topic but will keep my RUF powder DRY for now.
Subject: Re: THE HINGA NORMAN AFFAIR FROM A LAY MAN'S POINT OF VIEW
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq.
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Date Posted: 15:26:35 02/25/07 ()
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You always have had our own views but you have kept most of it close to our chest and what ever you have managed to divulge has been totally unintelligible. The truth farrah is that you were never a member of the RUF, never trained with the RUF, neither are you really known within the ranks of the RUF. Had any of these been true, I would have known. You are nothing but a "RAH RAH MAN"
Happy sunday to you bra
Subject: Re: THE HINGA NORMAN AFFAIR FROM A LAY MAN'S POINT OF VIEW
From: FARRAH MARRAH
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Date Posted: 15:36:15 02/25/07 ()
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Alieu,
Dis wan God hide pan you!
The Lord is indeed great!
Subject: Re: THE HINGA NORMAN AFFAIR FROM A LAY MAN'S POINT OF VIEW
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Date Posted: 13:40:06 02/25/07 ()
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Probably because your posting is full of nonsense, as you have been repeatedly told, clearly to no avail.
Subject: IN SUPPORT OF BANNING OF PRIVATE MINNING
From: ormay momodu
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Date Posted: 17:10:33 02/24/07 ()
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I am actually not a supporter of PMDC but I am fully in support of the banning of private minning. So many people even intellectuals who are trained to be diciplined thinkers fails to see the truth in banning private minning in Sierra Leone. Since 1930 when diamonds were first discovered, if the system of mining has been left only to trusted and worthwhile diamond companies to mine the stones, give jobs to the local, improve their enviroments with good schools, hospitals and better off lives it would have been another Sierra Leone today.
In successful countries economically with diamonds for example Bothwana,Namibia and South Africa they all never have private minning. Everything is state controlled and monitored. All for the success of the country and the people.
The thives, corruption and chaos in the minning of the diamonds has brought us war.
Half of the private minning has cause the stealing of half of the country wealth through smuggling, that could have benefited the country and its people.
Subject: Re: IN SUPPORT OF BANNING OF PRIVATE MINNING
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 03:40:07 02/25/07 ()
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I am not also a supporter of the PMDC party but I am in support of its program of banning private mining in the diamond industry in Sierra Leone.
I think that a lot of things have to be changed after july 28 this year.
I am praying for an APC and PMDC coalition government.
Momodu, we are on the same wave length and I think that god will help us achieve our dreams.
The only thing I would like to say is this;
Long Live APC and bye bye SLPP for ever in the Sierra Leone political arena.
The APC political armada is now set to clinch victory come july 28 2007. They are 50 metres away from state house.
Subject: Re: IN SUPPORT OF BANNING OF PRIVATE MINNING
From: Special CUT
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Date Posted: 04:44:21 02/25/07 ()
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"Good bye SLPP" - Sounds good but do not fail to realize that over the years the same folks have been criss-crossing from one party to the other. This time around we in the PMDC are going to identify those chamelion politicians. We will stand in that grey zone of criss-crossing with a big stick in our hands FOR DEN ARATA/GRONPIG.
Subject: Re: IN SUPPORT OF BANNING OF PRIVATE MINNING
From: CANA
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Date Posted: 06:56:25 02/25/07 ()
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It has fully come to our understanding that inspite of the shameful disaster the neglect and negligence the allowing of private minning has brought on Sierra Leone, still there are people who still want it to continue. It should be stopped and controlled. The stealing is everywhere and rampant.
Sierra Leoneans should not be afraid of making new painful laws to save the furure generations from the chaos, criminal and El dorado world the private minning of diamonds would bring on them.
Indeed we have seen disaster before, it would come to pass again, if we are not wise enough. STOP IT NOW ?
Pay the police and Army good,good salary send them to the minning areas and country borders. Save and protect the motherland.
STOP ISSUING LICENCES TO PEOPLE AND CONTACT PERSONS; THIS IS FURTHER BREEDING CORRUPTIONS: GIVE LICENCES TO ONLY TO BIG RESPONSIBLE AND ACCOUNTABLE COMPANIES:
Stop private minning now, clear the area of all and sundry, no matter where they are from being local or foreighners.
The diamonds should be controlled and organised by the state. Only the state has a right to give contracts to good reputable minning companies. The state should make public all contracs with such companies.
Places like kono and kenema should be developed and organised with good schools, hospital, good roads and better living standard.
The people of the diamonds area are suffering now becouse there is criminality and chaos in their enviroment. The government of sierra leone should put a ban and a stop to this malady and bring order.
Sierra Leone belong to us. we should be able to bring order to it. Without order we all suffer the shame.
If a father puts dicipline and order in his house hold. This would surely benefit such a household for the unseen future.
As the saying goés `I am my brothers keeper` All along we have dissappionted the motherland by neglecting to put it clean and in order. Only we should do it. Outside help can be positive or negative. We have to love and make our country ourselves.
The PMDC are another breed of politicians, they might be thinking probably with the reality of the times. They are a force, not everything about them might be ok, but their ideas might say the reality at hand.
STOP PRIVATE MINNING NOW IT IS A CURSE FOR SIERRA LEONE.
Subject: Re: IN SUPPORT OF BANNING OF PRIVATE MINNING
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 06:55:09 02/25/07 ()
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Thank you very much Special CUT for your insight.
You are perfectly right.
We too in the APC are waiting for those so called "ARATA/GRONPIG/ANYAMPEE".
Subject: IN WHAT CAPACITY WILL CHIEF HINGA NORMAN BE LAID TO REST?
From: kroobaymom
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Date Posted: 15:02:01 02/24/07 ()
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In what capacity will be Chief Hinga Norman be buried?
1. Will his body be released to the family or will he be buried by the Special Court in Senegal?
2. If his remains are brought back home and buried by the special court, what type of funeral rites are accorded to indictees who stand trial? Are there any exmples from Rwanda or Serbia? Will he be buried in an unidentified grave at Rokupa?
3. If his body is released to the family, wil the SLPP government accord him the honor of a state funeral considering his ministerial status before his indictment and his role in reinstating the SLPP government?
4. Would the PMDC take over, disallow any SLPP involvement and give him the chieftaincy burial rites he deserves?
Subject: Apology to Kroobaymom
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 03:45:52 02/26/07 ()
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Kroobaymom,
I am happy to inform you that Yaya Fanusie have asked me to send his apology to you on behalf of the remarks concerning his reaction on this article.
I hope that you will accept it so that we can move on and make this forum a brother place for expressing our views.
God bless everyone on this forum.
Subject: Re: IN WHAT CAPACITY WILL CHIEF HINGA NORMAN BE LAID TO REST?
From: Kamajor Victim
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Date Posted: 15:45:17 02/24/07 ()
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who gives a rats hearse> Just dont bury him in Freetown because his grave would be desecrated. As far as we in freetown know the hearse don go de hearse don go de hearse don go for cam no more.
Subject: Re: IN WHAT CAPACITY WILL CHIEF HINGA NORMAN BE LAID TO RES
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 16:54:53 02/24/07 ()
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Kroobaymom:
Your comments indicate that you are not from Nakoto. People from Nakoto Dist of Freetown would not say what you said. I believe you are more like somebody from sawpit slum or Long step grun.
Please use another handle instead of Kroobaymom.
Yaya Fanusie-Proud son of Nakoto District of Freetown.
Subject: Let bygones be bygones
From: Sa Konday
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Date Posted: 07:13:32 02/25/07 ()
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Whether one likes Hinga Norman or not is not the problem the soul of Hinga and his family now face.
The only thing I regret for him was he fought for people and a party who later turned against him.
If even he commited atrocities, he did it in collaboration with other people who were behind the scenes.
Fday Sanhoh, Sam Bockarie and may be Johnny Paul are now dead. What is wrong ij Hinga is dead.
The only problem is the manner in which they died.
One of his mistakes was when he failed to join the AFRC of Johnny Paul. May be he would not have end his life in this manner if he had done so.
However everybody has his or her own choice or ways of doin things.
I hope that the body of the late Hinga would be given to his family for burial.
This might not sound good to people who suffered under the brutality of the camajors of the late man.
However we should somtimes forgive to heal the wounds.
Subject: Re: Let bygones be bygones
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Date Posted: 23:22:47 02/25/07 ()
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You must have been a rebel to suggest Norman to join AFRC.your name Sa konday sounds like someone who worked at sierra rutile.
Subject: Re: Let bygones be bygones
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 16:14:28 02/25/07 ()
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Sa Konday,
I think I replied or responded to the wrong posting. I was responding I thought to a posting which was nasty to our Dear Brother and Hero Chief HInga Norman.
Please pass on my apology to Krobaymom.
I responded to the wrong person. I am sorry.
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: Let bygones be bygones
From: JJC Rogers
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Date Posted: 15:32:20 02/25/07 ()
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he fought for people and a party
which people? We already know th e part that he fought for.
Subject: Re: IN WHAT CAPACITY WILL CHIEF HINGA NORMAN BE LAID TO REST?
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Date Posted: 15:36:33 02/24/07 ()
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I was going to suggest that he be buried at the far end and termination of Samba Gutter down by krobay but I know that the peole of kroo bay would not want to deal with the stink. So I now sugest that he be buried in his village in an unmarked grave together with the bones of victims of kamajor atrocities and a palm frond to symbolise his close relationship with the SLPP his former benefactors.
Do you think he was murdered?
Subject: Re: IN WHAT CAPACITY WILL CHIEF HINGA NORMAN BE LAID TO REST?
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Date Posted: 17:12:42 02/24/07 ()
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In the case of the deceased Serbian leader, Slobodan Milosevic who died in jail in Moscow while being tried on charges of war crimes and genocide, the remains were flown home and interned in his village next to Belgrade. Top leaders of his Socialist party were at the airport to receive the body, arrangements were made for a public viewing before the burial and retired police and army officers who served during his reign processed at Milosevic's funeral in ceremonial uniforms in a show of respect for the man who took them to four wars during his 13-year rule. His party, The Socialists had demanded a funeral with state honors at a cemetery reserved for prominent Serbs, but the authorities rejected this demand, reflecting the controversy about the former president's legacy.
If Chief Norman’s remains are released to the family as in the case of Milosevic, then I presume the PMDC and not the SLPP will take responsibility for the funeral. The SLPP might want to win some political capital by giving him a state funeral. This would however make the Special Court and the International Community look bad!!!! Secondly, like the Serbian retired soldiers and police officers who came out in procession for Milosevic’s funeral, would kamajors come out in their numbers dressed in their regalia, elaborate headdresses and leather fetish tunics, with charms around their necks,? Would this not be a violation of the Lome Accord? These issues are so complex and confusing that one can only speculate the outcome at the moment.
Subject: Re: IN WHAT CAPACITY WILL CHIEF HINGA NORMAN BE LAID TO REST?
From: Bombolai
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Date Posted: 18:06:24 02/25/07 ()
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Who cares how he will be buried......lucky he was not hung like Sadam......ooda troway ases......
Subject: Re: IN WHAT CAPACITY WILL CHIEF HINGA NORMAN BE LAID TO REST?
From: Special CUT
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Date Posted: 04:27:45 02/25/07 ()
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If the remains are given to the family, then it is left with them, to continue with the chief's political wish. It is going to be left with the family as to who takes part in his burialand where and how he will be buried
Subject: Conscience = civilization
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 13:14:51 02/24/07 ()
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Through-out history man, through education, has been trasforming. From the Stone to Modern and Post-Modern Ages, mankind has transformed into civility.
Bellow is an effort to continue that tradition.
Subject: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?"
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 09:10:26 02/24/07 ()
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[The following recent exchange regarding the question, "Did the TRC Misidentify the Root Cause of SL's "Civil War?," is presented here, courtesy of SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, in the continuing effort to keep our fellow S/Leoneans informed about serious issues affecting our country's future. In this particular case, we carefully examine the recent past with the goal of responsibly preparing for the immediate future. The name of my correspondent is disclosed with permission].
--- In SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, MohmJ@...> wrote on Feb. 22, 2007:
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In a message dated 2/21/2007 2:10:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, amadu.massally@gmail.com writes:
But what makes you think that [the TRC] failed to identify the root cause [of the rebel war]? In addition, and using one of your many citations, "where is the evidence" that the TRC missed the boat? Or even better, where is the evidence that substantiates your claim that the TRC failed to pin-point the main cause of the war as you have stated here, and in your recently published paper?
Amadu:
You have asked eminently fair questions. Before proceeding to answer them presently, kindly permit me to reiterate a point I had made in 2005 that coincides with your approving assessment yesterday of the report of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. Specifically, I had written that: " ... the final report of the Sierra Leone Truth and Reconciliation Commission is of tremendous historical importance because it contains perhaps the most comprehensive eyewitness record of the bestial interlude in Sierra Leone's history that has been misnamed, in multiple error, a civil war, ..." Please see "The Truth That the TRC Failed to Uncover in Sierra Leone." http://news.sl/drwebsite/publish/article_2005782.shtml
Clearly, therefore, the objective findings in the TRC report are not in question on my part. However, as I noted in the above-cited article, the fatal problem with the otherwise excellent report lies in its fundamental conclusion that the rebel war resulted from Sierra Leoneans' increasing conviction that "the structures of governance could only be changed through violence." Let us now proceed to the answer to your reasonable request for evidence supporting my contention.
The evidence is found both in the lack of evidence supporting the TRC's conclusion and in the presence of evidence contradicting it.
Given the TRC's conclusion that the RUF invasion was the result of the people of SL's conviction that "the structures of governance could only be changed through violence," it is reasonable to expect that the RUF must have been a popular organization among S/Leoneans. However, the TRC report fails to cite evidence that the RUF enjoyed the popular support of the majority of S/Leoneans either before or during its invasion of our country. The failure of the TRC to set forth evidence of the RUF's popularity among the majority of S/Leoneans is not surprising. Indeed, there is ample evidence contradicting such an assertion.
Ironically, that evidence is provided by the TRC itself -- in its meticulously documented record of the vile atrocities perpetrated by the RUF against millions of innocent S/Leoneans. Those crimes included murder, mutilation, torture, rape, kidnapping, forced labor, child abuse, arson, and mass displacement. Accordingly, it is highly unlikely that the majority of Sierra Leoneans authorized the RUF to victimize them in the millions in order to pursue the latter's conviction that "the structures of governance could only be changed through violence."
Even more unlikely is the suggestion also implied in the TRC's conclusion that the leaders of a war that was allegedly started because S/Leoneans were convinced that "the structures of governance could only be changed through violence" would resort to force in order to recruit the majority of S/Leoneans among their ranks, as the RUF leaders actually did, according to the TRC report.
Indeed, the evidence collected by the TRC itself points to a totally different conclusion, which, in another twist of irony, escaped the TRC's attention. That conclusion is that the war was, in the main, a cynical and brutal assault on innocent and helpless Sierra Leoneans by an internationally-financed gang of criminals for purely selfish reasons.
As you may recall, I identified those selfish reasons as the concerted quest for revenge against the APC government of President Joseph Momoh which were separately harbored by the two main leaders of the bestial assault on the people of SL -- the Liberian indicted war criminal, Charles Taylor, and his protege, Foday Sankoh, the S/Leonean ex-convict jailed during the APC government of Momoh's predecessor, President Siaka Stevens. Please see, "A Lurking, Looming and Familiar Danger for Sierra Leone." http://www.thepatrioticvanguard.com/article.php3?id_article=1021
So, one might ask, does this mean that the people of SL were happy with APC rule? Not at all. Indeed, the lengthy reign of the APC coincided with the longstanding disenfranchisement of the S/Leonean electorate from 1968 to 1992. Yet, as egregious an assault on the most basic right of citizenship of S/Leoneans as that was, it was not the cause of the "civil war." This is readily attested to by the fact that neither Sankoh nor Taylor represented a popular movement of S/Leoneans seeking the removal of President Momoh through violent means when they launched their vicious attack on the people of SL in 1991. Indeed, the additional fact that the RUF forcibly conscr1pted its recruits of child and other soldiers from the populace to its ignoble cause points to its lack of popular support among the general population of S/Leoneans.
That fact alone should have sufficed to restrain the TRC from its highly improbable conclusion that the so-called civil war resulted from Sierra Leoneans' increasing conviction that "the structures of governance could only be changed through violence."
Therefore, the conclusion is inescapable that the TRC failed to accurately identify the root cause of the 1991-2002 rebel war in SL by concluding that it resulted from Sierra Leoneans' increasing conviction that "the structures of governance could only be changed through violence." The only remaining question is: How could the TRC have missed identifying the primary cause of the rebel war, with all the resources at its disposal to get to the bottom of the matter? It is an extremely relevant question that cries for an answer.
I hope the above explanation adequately answers your characteristically cogent questions.
Sincerely,
Moh'm
--- In SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, "Amadu Massally" > First of all, I believe in the TRC report as the most objective compilation of findings as they relate to the war in S/L. It is disturbing that they have failed to accurately identify the primary cause(s) that led to the war. It is even more disturbing when one assesses what you have said in context with what we see in Guinea today. > Looking forward to it all! Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: But please let us get real. If Sierra Leoneans are the noble souls that you insist that we are, and for which I wish to thank you, what then motivated some of our own to collaborate with foreigners to inflict such extreme and demented carnage on their own people? Our rebels even lined the pockets of our foreign tormentors and financed purchase of weapons that were used to subjugate us. But first, let me take exception to any suggestions that will excuse “the oppressive and corrupt APC government” as cause of our civil war, and any doubts that it was in fact a civil war. For while in the beginning it was an insurrection, albeit a bloody one, it did eventually evolve into a civil war once brothers went against brothers, as was the case when the AFRC/RUF alliance were up against the ECOMOG/CDF alliance. I can think of no better definition of civil war than as in this case when brothers killed brothers, in fits of irrational anger, over no worthwhile goals. To understand why APC policies matter in understanding our civil war and still enduring chaos, we must go to the second law of thermodynamics which governs every aspect of our universe itself. According to the second law, every process tends towards chaos. For instance when you put a gallon of gasoline into your car, you never get a gallon’s worth of energy to propel your car. Some of that gasoline is lost as heat and other byproducts that do no good for your car. These useless byproducts represent chaos. On the other hand our actual observations are of our universe and everything in it evolving into more complex and efficient entities and doing so on a higher and higher plain, instead of headlong movement towards inevitable chaos. Man for instance has evolved over eons from simple cellular organisms into the complex beings we are today. What is going on here? What is going on has to do with what physicists call closed and open systems. The second law is never violated but do manifest only in closed systems, which can be found only in experimental laboratories and never in nature or the real universe. In laboratories, application of stress quickly manifests into chaos and final destruction in accordance with the second law. Open systems also obey the second law but avoid destruction by dissipating stress and adapting to chaos, which enables them to evolve at an even more complex being and on a higher plain to boot. The human is the ultimate open system. We possess myriad means to dissipate stress and adapt to hunger, heat, cold, etc, etc, all of which are chaos. Our ultimate dissipation and adaptation is that we reproduce to perpetuate our race. What has this got to do with the APC, the RUF, Charles Taylor, Campaore, and other symbols of the plague that tormented us? Plenty. Sierra Leone under British rule had a highly centralized system of governance, indeed a highly closed system if you will. The Governor appointed Provincial and District Commissioners; most of the Legislators, the Judges, and Senior Civil Servants. What prevented such a system from becoming chaotic and breaking down were the checks and balances of the powers of Her Majesty’s government in the forms of military, economic, and diplomatic might. Were the British still in charge they would quickly have deployed all these tools to quickly bring the RUF and their allies to heel, as they in fact proved once they decided to fully intervene. Now when we got independence we inherited this highly vulnerable closed system but gave up all the checks and balances that held it together. In retrospect, I think Sierra Leone needed another five years or so of constitutional development to erect alternative checks and balances before seeking independence in 1961. This is also the only area where I give Siaka Stevens well deserved credit for his foresight and as political strategist. Recall that Britain offered to sign a mutual defense pact with us at the constitutional convention that granted us independence. But even then Siaka had designs on the country and he knew that such agreement would frustrate his ambitions. He was therefore the only delegate who did not sign the agreement that granted us independence. It is also the one area where in retrospect I disagree with Sir Milton. He desired unanimity so much that he negotiated away important clauses that now looking back, I can see were very badly needed. In fairness to Sir Milton, we did have checks and balances in the form of the Governor General, Parliament, an independent Judiciary, and the Privy Council in England. These however were useful only with a head of government who believed in them. They worked quite well under both Sir Milton and Sir Albert. Siaka Stevens on the other hand saw them as impediments to his plans. He quickly chased the Governor General out of the country and made himself into an absolute dictator (Fornah’s last letter from prison is instructive on this issue). Parliament and the Judiciary were refashioned into his liking. District administrations were done away with, chiefs were sorted out, and Siaka Stevens as president was positioned above law and constitution. What happened in effect is that an already closed system was closed even more tightly. There were no independent newspapers; news on the radio was routine reading of government position papers; and there were absolutely no opportunities for frustrated citizenry to vent. The president even had his own Gestapo, the SSD who restore renegade citizens into line. When Mohammed Fornah, David Lansana, and John Bangura, were framed and murdered, that sent a powerful message that the APC would not hesitate to exact the ultimate measure for simply disagreeing with them. In the meantime services deteriorated precipitously, the economy unraveled, and life all around was getting very difficult. So you had a situation wherein more and more stress was being inflicted at the same time that we were denied any opportunity to complain or otherwise dissipate our stress. It is really quite simple: if you invited guests into your home, served them copious beer, and closed your bathrooms, you cannot blame them when they pee on your living room floor. That in effect was the quandary Sierra Leoneans were in under the APC. That we endured it for all those years and did so in peace is testimony to our preference for law and order. But how do you remain lawful when there are in fact no more laws or recognizable rules? How do you remain orderly when the concept itself has been compromised beyond relevance by the mere preponderance of government directed violence? The ultimate chaos in the form of widespread, brutal, and wanton violence under the circumstances was inevitable. Unfortunately the nightmare still hangs over us. The nation that Siaka Stevens and the APC bequeathed us remains intact. It is a nation whose fate remains solidly dependent on the character and goodwill of whoever is president or head of state. Think about it. I am not surprised that the “miniscule minority” of Sierra Leoneans’ who jumped on the RUF bandwagon were mainly from Pujehun, Kailahun, and Kenema, all areas with history of great suffering under the APC on account of their alleged loyalty to the by then illegal SLPP. I refuse to denounce or heap all the blame on these boys and girls who were attracted to a movement that betrayed them, drugged them, and coerced them into committing despicable atrocities. They were as much victims as the rest of us. Perhaps this is the real tragedy of the Sierra Leonean experience. Most of the players were merely victims. In any case let us now call a spade a spade by desisting from further sugarcoating of nearly three decades of brutal APC assault on our values, on our institutions, and on our persons. For real healing to take place in Sierra Leone we must now recognize and acknowledge once and for all, that record as the single most important cause for the chaos and suffering that we have endured and continue to suffer. Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: I certainly did not "sugarcoat" the 24-year period that coincided with APC rule. Much to the contrary: 1. It is true, as I duly noted in my article, that the APC rule between 1968 and 1992 coincided with the massive assault on the most basic right of citizenship of Sierra Leoneans -- the right to choose their leaders. 2. It is also true that the RUF's leader, Foday Sankoh, led the bestial assault on millions of innocent S/Leoneans between 1991 and 2001, for his purely selfish reasons, as I also properly noted in the article. However -- and this is the point that the TRC missed (and which you also missed) -- the APC's disenfranchisement of the electorate is NOT the reason why Sankoh embarked on his campaign of PERSONAL vengeance against the APC. Therefore, to the extent that you are referring to chaos and suffering arising from Sankoh's RUF bestialities, you are confusing two very matters with no causal relationship when you claim that the APC's record is the "most important cause for the chaos and suffering that we have endured and continue to suffer." Moreover, if you are referring to the economic chaos and resultant suffering arising from corruption, itribalism, and other manifestations of governmental incompetence, then you would still be wrong by claiming that the APC's record is the "most important cause for the chaos and suffering that we have endured and continue to suffer." This is because the APC party from 1970 to 1992 was actually an unofficial coalition of the SLPP and APC. This is readily attested to by the fact that the SLPP leader then, Salia Jusu-Sheriff, was a senior member of the APC government. Indeed, the single most responsible cause for untold poverty in SL, in my humble opinion -- devaluation -- was executed by the SLPP's leader, Salia Jusu-Sheriff, in 1979, when he was Minister of Finance in the APC government of President Siaka Stevens. And there were many other top SLPP members serving as ministers in the APC government throughout the 24 years of nominal APC rule. So, if you want to "call a spade a spade" you would now state that the chaos and suffering which is today the searing reality of millions of S/Leoneans is not the result of the APC alone, but the result of the unofficial coalition of SLPP and APC parties which devastated SL's economy and its politics for more than 20 years. Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: Why are most of your posts so biased? Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: I said nothing about the NPRC or the SLPP because I was addressing the APC record. But what I said in the above paragraph ought to tell that I am equally against murders committed by the NPRC and SLPP as well. I was especially chagrined by the murder of Salami Coker. He was a mentor to me at the Grammar School. I lived on Syke street in the West end at the time. But at Ramadan I would go to the East end to hang out with friends for the festivities. Salami was usually part of the group. Salami wanted to be an actor, which I found to be most inspiring. An African teenager who knew what he wanted for a career was inspiring enough, but to aspire to a career for which Africa offered few if any opportunities was extraordinary. That was Salami. He was extraordinary. I did not know Bambay Kamara. But if rumors that he was the kingpin in framing of Fornah, Taqi, and John Bangura are true, I doubt very much that he would be deserving of my admiration. Also, if just one percent of the rumors of how he died are true, then his execution is among the best arguments for doing away with the death penalty in Sierra Leone. You invariably invoke the NPRC record each time the APC record is criticized. My take is that most people in Sierra Leone were grateful that the NPRC rid the country of the APC. The boys overstayed their welcome when they went on a diamba smoking spree, high risk promiscuity, and other excesses including the killings that you alluded to. But by and large Sierra Leoneans have a soft spot for the NPRC because we found their singular achievement of ending APC rule so thoroughly liberating. I know that this is a perspective that is hard for you to accept, and I sincerely empathize. But that is the way it is. I am not going to defend my thinking, one sided or not. And I am not concerned about bias and objectivity. These are matters of personal opinion. I do hope that my postings are factual, and I do hope that they are sufficiently provocative to inspire deeper thoughtfulness in our discussions. Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: That should read "But by and large the SLPP have a soft spot for the NPRC " On the other issue of the death penalty, you may not know this about me but I am a fervent anti death penalty advocate, but I do know that in some societies particularly one such as ours, it does have an effect of putting a stop to criminal activity. I am against political killings of any type and do believe that those who are guilty of making coups, should be jailed for life under humane conditions. I guess that if you supported the NPRC coup, that you also support Coup to overthrow burdensome governments. If you do then we are NOT on the same page because I do not believe that we should VIOLENCE to ursurp any government be it APC SLPP or any other alphabet soup government, to borrow a phrase from John Leigh. You state: But shouldnt you be concerned if your postings always present biased or logically skewed facts? I would if I were you because a man of your intelect, and God knows I aspire to be like you when I get old, should be concerned about what you put out there as facts. You are entited to your own opinion but not to your own facts. Stay Blessed Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: Without intending to take sides in the current interesting debate between you and the equally learned gentleman, Alieu, I am obliged, by reason of accuracy, to respectfully point out that your opinion quoted above is not accurate. Questions about objectivity -- and therefore, the lack of objectivity (or bias) -- are properly determined by the rules of logic. Accordingly, they are not matters of opinion in a determinative sense. Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WA Message: Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WA Message: Otherwise I am not by nature a protester. My preference is for thoughtful and factual debate or discussion. I want to remind you also that this is not about me. It is about the APC. They are the party that chastised the SLPP in 1967 on corruption, on tribalism, on respect for the constitution, and on responsible management of national affairs, and so forth. But once they were in, they accrued an even more disastrous record on every one of these issues. I therefore find it quite outrageous that forty years later they are still stuck on their talking points from 1967. It is mainly for this reason that I give them no slack. The APC must understand that this approach will no longer work because they have a record. They have a twenty-four year record versus the SLPP’s eighteen. And every which way one looks at it they turn up as inferior performers by a decisive margin. Let me repeat what I have said before. I want to see a well organized, vibrant, and visionary SLPP, APC, and now, PMDC. If Sierra Leonean democracy is to hold and to grow, we need vigorous idea based competition among the parties. I have many concerns about the performance of especially this SLPP administration in many critical areas. These concerns however fade away when I consider the alternative. The APC unfortunately has positioned itself as the SLPP’s best campaign talking point. Here is what I hope the APC can do to revive itself: First, they must stand for something, and I am not taking about the usual banal promises to end tribalism, end corruption, unite the country, and other nonsensical commitments. I expect concrete, well thought out proposals on national security, agricultural policy, consolidating our democracy, and education, etc. They have been the key opposition party for twelve years now, and I cannot think of any important legislation that the APC have proposed. It seems to me that their strategy is to oppose, oppose, oppose, and hope that the SLPP fails. You cannot win something with nothing. Second, the APC must cure itself of its Mende obsession. The APC are seeing Mendes not as Mendes are, but as the APC are. A vision of national leadership driven by hate cannot prevail. Besides how do you put together a winning combination when you write off a full third of the electorate at the starting gate? Third, the APC must renounce violence and ensure that it has no place in their modus operandi. Sierra Leoneans can forgive much. But violence against our persons left enduring ill-will for the APC. The APC’s top priority and greatest challenge therefore ought to be a reversal of public perception of them as a violent bunch. I am ready, waiting, and willing, to be dragged into “two sided thinking”. The APC must give me the opportunity to do so. Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: Thank you, Moh'm Jalloh, for making sense of the senseless rebel war. Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: It seems as if you have a different definition of a civil war. What is lacking in your opinion is CRITICAL ANALYSES of the war. Maybe a course in CRITICAL THINKING would have sufficed. Who was responsible for Taylor's "escape" from Boston to Liberia? In what manner should the dictatorial regime of Momoh and the APC have been deposed? "This is readily attested to by the fact that neither Sankoh nor Taylor represented a popular movement of S/Leoneans seeking the removal of President Momoh through violent means when they launched their vicious attack on the people of SL in 1991." How would you have procured a sample size to determine the war's popularity? Most who supported the RUF for one reason or the other would never reveal their complicity to a "STRANGER" especially somebody such as you. As I have advised Alieu, Charles Taylor's testimony at the Hague will shed more light to the civil/rebel war. Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: The questions you asked are so stupid that I would be surprised if anyopne would bother to answer them. All of them can be dismissed by one word: Irrelevance. Because I don't think you know the meaning of that word, let me explain it for you. Mr. Jalloh told us that your the RUF beasts, Taylor and Sankoh had a grudge against Momoh's APC government, so they set about to terrorize the people of Salone, Only a fool like you would ask irrelevant questions about why Taylor was in Libya, or his relationship with those whose help he secured to pursue his selfish grudges (first, against Doe for causing him to be jailed in America (1989) and then against Momoh the next year for helpinh ECOMOG stop him from overthrowing Doe by capturing Monrovia. So, you dumb rebel, is that simple enough now for you to understand? Man, you too tuppit! You ask how Momoh's regime could have been deposed. Hey, Dumbo, why don't you ask Valentine Strasser? He did it in a few hours one fine day in F/town without cuttting the hands, feet, and other body parts of thousands of children, women and men who had nothing to do with Momoh's APC govt. Can you now see how stupid you are to ask that question? I won't even talk about your ignorant statement about "would you have procured a sample size to determine the war's popularity". If you want to learn statistics, go to school. I don't think Mr. Jalloh or anyonbe who knows that you are a rebel will teach you. Moreover, only a fool like you would think that the only way you determine the unpopularity of murderers is to "procure a sample size". Any elementary school student will confirm for you that if you cut peoiple's hands, feet, rape their daughters, sisters, nieces, grandmothers, aunts, kill their fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters,burn their houses, they will HATE YOU RUF scum who did those inhuman things to them. So, Dumbo, why would you need to "procure a sample" of whatever size to learn what you can see by thinking straight> Oh, but of course, you would -- since your everlasting problem, William Bangura, is that you CAN'T THINK STRAIGHT. If I were Mr. jalloh, I won't weaste my time answerring your "tuppit" questions. Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: "Stick and stones may break my bones but words will not hurt me". You never answered the question of how did Taylor "escape" from a Boston jail and ended in Libya. "Hey, Dumbo, why don't you ask Valentine Strasser? He did it in a few hours one fine day in F/town without cuttting the hands, feet, and other body parts of thousands of children, women and men who had nothing to do with Momoh's APC govt." FACT: The origianl architect of the coup was Capt. Ben Hirsch. Sandy led the coup, not Strasser. Your response are INDICATIVE THAT YOU have no answers to the questions that I posed. Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: Farrah Marrah, the more you talk, the more you expose yourself as someone who can not think straight. Man, what relevance is it whether it was Strasser, Bambay, or Pa Santhikie who overthrew Momoh's APC government. The relevant point is that Momoh was overthrown without the bestialities that the animals of your RUF perpetrated upon millions of Sierra Leoneans for ten (count them, 10) long years or more! That proves that your RUF thugs are the most stupid and bestial on earth, man -- they took more than 10 years to fail to ovwerhthrow a goovernemtn in Siera Leone when it took Strasser & Co less than one yes, ONE) to overthrow Momoh's govt. Do you see why DUMBER and other people tell you you are stupid when you say there was no way to overthrow Momoh's govt. except by terrorizing the people of Siert Leone for ten (10) years and still FAIL to do so as your bestial ignoramuses- the RUF thugs -- did? Before I read your postings, William Bangura, I never knew a Sieera Leonean can be so stupid as you have exposed yourself to be. Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: Farrah Marrah, nar true say you nor well! Don't you understand the meaning of IRRELEVANCE, even after I have explained it for you? Your (very dumb) questions have absolutely NOTHING to do with the FACT that the ex-jailbirds, Sankoh and Taylor, started the rebel war. That war inflicted the vilest crimes against humanity in the history of the people of Salone for more than 10 years of their untold suffering! That is a fact. You have the right to hold an opinion that is opposite to the fact, as even fools are entitled to their opinion, however far removed from reality. But, until you show us verifiable evidence that it was not Foday Sankoh who started the bestial rebel war in 1991 by invading Salone in 1991, then your opinion, to quote a famous American, is worth as much as a bucket full of warm spit. Or, to repeat -- totally IRRELEVANT! So, rebel William Bangura, to repeat again, can you understand that your questions mean nothing and that the answers to them are irrelevant(even though I answered them as a favor to you so you can see how stupid you are to even ask them)? As someone told you last week (and which you still can't understand, as usual) it is not name calling to state the truth about you. Therefore, when people say you are a rebel, that is not name calling -- it is the truth, as you also told us when you screamed on this forum last week: "RUF O YEAH!" Also, when people say you are a fool, that is not name calling -- it is the truth about you, as your own postings (which I have been analyzing) prove. And when people say you can't think straight, that is also not name calling -- it is the truth, as your irrelevant questions and dumb statements on this forum prove. Do you, William Bangura, finally understand the fact that you are a fool, a rebel, and someone who can't think straight? Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: Japan reconciled itself to the fact that its imperial past was responsible for the "Rape of Nanking" and the atomic repercussions that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki during the Second World War. The island nation faced its misguided past by adopting, and sincerely keeping a pacifist constitution, as a way of staying peaceful. Sierra Leone must SPECIFICALLY have its own TRC by equipping its political system with mechanisms to fiercely punish corruption and everything that undermines national development. In our case, national reconciliation means a bold indictment--or a strong reprimand--for all those who continued to abuse political power even as Sierra Leone set sail to national destruction. For those killed by the RUF and the KAMAJORS, SOME amounts of "immediate justice" can only come in the prosecution of ex-combatants. For the rest of Sierra Leone, reconciliation can only come through a political system designed to abhor the past, and ruthless in punishing future repetitions of unpatriotic politics. Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: Do I comprehend that there were socio-economic and political problems that led to the civil/rebel war? "For those killed by the RUF and the KAMAJORS, SOME amounts of "immediate justice" can only come in the prosecution of ex-combatants." What "immediate justice" do you recommend? The gravest penalties should be reserved for who or those who gave the order(s) for the atrocites. Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: I want to agree with the writer who said Norman fought to create a safe zone for the SLPP so that they can do what they have been doing for all these years- Stealing, converting people's diamonds into useless stones, and asking you to sell your votes for 60,000.00 Leones and a bag of rice ( cheap and ridiculous). But are you that cheap? NO! NO! I believe you are not. Those in the TRC are human beings like you and me; they have friends among our government officials and can protect them, like Kabbah is pushing Solo B to protect him after he leaves office. WATCH OUT! Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: I want to agree with the writer who said Norman fought to create a safe zone for the SLPP so that they can do what they have been doing for all these years- Stealing, converting people's diamonds into useless stones, and asking you to sell your votes for 60,000.00 Leones and a bag of rice ( cheap and ridiculous). But are you that cheap? NO! NO! I believe you are not. Those in the TRC are human beings like you and me; they have friends among our government officials and can protect them, like Kabbah is pushing Solo B to protect him after he leaves office. WATCH OUT! Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: I want to agree with writer who said Norman fought to create a safe zone for the SLPP so that they can do what they have been doing for all these years- Stealing, converting people's diamonds into useless stones, ans asking you to sell you votes for 60,000.00 Leones and a bag of rice (ridiculous) Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: Bo, NOR KILL WE WIT LAFF! YOU COMPREHEND? HOW CAN YOU COMPREHEND YOU CAN'T THINK STRAIGHT? Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: How could we have prevented Normans death? We did not have any control of the syringe that gave him the lethal dose of meds that crushed his heart. Neither do we care who was in control of the syringe particularly since this act appears to be internecine. Get this into your THICK skull Normn did not fight to redeem sierra leone, he fought to bring SLPP back to power. Ya Got that. Subject: Re: DID THE TRC MISIDENTIFY THE ROOT CAUSE OF SL'S "CIVIL WAR?" Message: Subject: The case against Samuel Hinga Norman - DISMISSED Message: " The evil that men do lives after them and the good is often interred with their bones, so let it be with Sanmuel Hinga Norman". It will be in bad taste to voice our opposition to him and his role at this moment when his family is in grief. We who have so vociferously stated our opposition to the role he played as head of the kamajors, will now out of respect for his spirit and in the pure tradition of our peoples and our culture, bow our heads in silence in memory of a once great warrior who though not infallible, was loved by many and unadmired by just as many more. Bid you adieu old warrior and dont forget at your arraignment up there in the clouds plead guilty and you will be forgiven, plead innocent and not even St Peter can come to your defense because God is all seeing and all knowing. Subject: Re: The case against Samuel Hinga Norman - DISMISSED Message: The international community has a stake in the trial. Should another war start in Sierra Leone today it is the international community that would be marshalling resources to put an end to it. They have calculated that there should be attention placed on the abuse of children in prosecuting wars and on the abuse of women and the innocent. They have the backing of religious organizations, powerful women's organizations and other philanthropic organizations defending the rights of children, with high moral standards. Among other interested parties in the verdict of the Special Court are the families of the dead, women who were raped, and the injured. Dismissing the case against Hinga Norman should not be an option even if death visited him before the verdict. The act of trying war criminals, the process, and the verdict all have special meaning whether psychological or otherwise in deterring future occurrences of the crimes committed. Take the example of Guinea which is on the verge of a war currently. The mere knowledge that war crimes would be prosecuted would be expected to deter well placed individuals who head warring factions. If Hinga Norman is guilty of war crimes I see no reason why there should be no verdict in his case. The United Nations through the Special Court faces the risk of been regarded spineless if they back away from this noble agenda of prosecuting war criminals. No matter the sentiments expressed by supporters of Hinga Norman, the court proceedings must go on. Like many Sierra Leoneans, I would welcome a hero who puts up a fight to withstand atrocities and defend my country. But the international community is drawing a line on the sand by saying that you would only attain the status of a hero if in the act of this heroism you were not guilty of blatantly abusing human rights by willful killing, raping, and maiming of innocent people. I agree. Do you? Subject: Re: The case against Samuel Hinga Norman - DISMISSED Message: Subject: Re: The case against Samuel Hinga Norman - DISMISSED Message: I do agree with the above. I must make it clear that I am not advocating that the charges against him be dismissed , I however believe that a dead man has no charges to answer to and I am sure the courts are of like mind. In most jurisdictions, all matters against a dead defendant are dismissed and I believe that the special court does have precedence in the matter of the prosecutor v. Millosovich. I may be wrong on this one and if I am I stand corrected. So how you doing on that Coooooold side of town. Still biried under Ice? Subject: Re: The case against Samuel Hinga Norman - DISMISSED Message: Would the case aainst him be dismissed though? Man this special court is polarizing isnt it? what are your thoughts on it. Subject: A QUESTION FOR RUF REBEL WILLIAM BANGURA Message: In Reply to: Re: Deja vu: Stop Talking YET More Nonsense posted by FARRAH MARRAH on February 23, 2007 at 13:07:19: William Bangura: Which one of the millions of innocent Salonean children, women, and men whom your bestial RUF criminals raped, tortured, mutilated, burned, murdered and then drank their syill warm blood, before eating their inocent human flesh, even knew your few "people" who you claim were mistreated by Siaka Stevens and a few of his APC people? ANSWER: Probably NOT A SINGLE ONE! So, why would the RUF criminals target those innocent Saloneeans for their PERSONAL vendetta against Stevens and a FEW of his people? Do you now see why people say you cannot think straight? It is not an insult to say you are retarded, rebel William Bangura. It is the plain truth. Follow Ups: Subject: I am not afraid of any power in this world. Message: Yayha Jammeh: With regard to our relationship with the Islamic Republic of Iran, and, of course, with regard to the international crisis that it has generated with regard to the peaceful nuclear program – I think the bottom line is for the international community to make sure that justice is done. I'll take you back to... Just recently, a major power that already has nuclear weapons – they said they are going to go in for a new generation of nuclear weapons, and that didn't raise an eyebrow in the West. My principal belief is that nobody should have nuclear weapons. If you have nuclear weapons, why do you have to keep it now? Maybe the reasons for the introduction of nuclear weapons in those days are no longer prevailing. So I think all countries should get rid of nuclear weapons, because if you have nuclear weapons, corrupt people are bound to have nuclear weapons. Because if you don't want to bully anybody, you don't have to arm yourself to a point where you can walk into somebody's back yard and kick him out. With regard to the Iranian nuclear program, they say it is for peaceful purposes. It is the legitimate right of any country to have a nuclear program for peaceful purposes, to generate energy. Other small countries in the West have nuclear power plants, and that's not an issue. Now, are they telling us that Arabs and Africans – and Muslims, for that matter – shouldn't have nuclear weapons? If they don't want us to have nuclear weapons, then what is their intention? But my principal belief is that nobody should have nuclear weapons. All countries should scrap their nuclear weapons, and you go back to a peaceful world. If not, every country has a right to nuclear weapons, because the way things are now – where you can sit down and then be invaded, because somebody is armed with nuclear weapons – the world is dangerous. With regard to the Iranian nuclear program, I have no reason to doubt their sincerity and integrity, when they say it's for peaceful purposes. Other countries have nuclear power plants for peaceful purposes, and that did not raise an eyebrow. So I think that whether to have a nuclear program or not is the supreme decision of the Iranian people. So whether our relationship will be affected by that... Our relationship will not be affected, because our principal belief is that we do not judge people or countries, based on the decision of others. And, of course... Coming back to the question whether Gambia also would be penalized as a result of our good relations with Iran – I am not afraid of anything. I am not afraid of any power except the power of the Almighty Allah. And as long as I am sincere in what I do, and as long as I believe and put my fate and the destiny of the Gambian people in the hands of the Almighty Allah, I am not afraid of any power in this world. Subject: Re: I am not afraid of any power in this world. Message: Subject: Re: I am not afraid of any power in this world. Message: US relations with aid dependent Gambia are simply not getting better. Africans must find ways to force Buffons like Jammeh out of office with minimal damage to their long suffering Populace. Subject: Re: I am not afraid of any power in this world. Message: "International Atomic Energy Agency The IAEA has its headquarters in Vienna, Austria. Two "Regional Safeguards Offices" are located in Toronto, Canada; and Tokyo, Japan. The IAEA has two liaison offices, located in New York, USA; and Geneva, Switzerland. In addition, it has laboratories in Seibersdorf and Vienna, Austria; Monaco; and Trieste, Italy. The IAEA´s mission is guided by the interests and needs of Member States, strategic plans and the vision embodied in the IAEA Statute (see below). Three main pillars - or areas of work - underpin the IAEA´s mission: Safety and Security; Science and Technology; and Safeguards and Verification. The Agency and Director General Mohamed ElBaradei were awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2005. In Dr. ElBaradei's speech he stated that only 1% of the money spent on developing new weapons would be enough to feed the entire world and that, if we hope to escape self-destruction, then nuclear weapons should have no place in our collective conscience, and no role in our security. Nobel Lecture. The Board of Governors is one of two policy making bodies of the IAEA. The Board consists of 13 members designated by the outgoing Board and 22 members elected by the General Conference. The outgoing Board designates the ten members who are the most advanced in atomic energy technology and the remaining three most advanced members from any of the following areas that are not represented by the first ten: North America, Latin America, Western Europe, Eastern Europe, Africa, Middle East and South Asia, South East Asia, the Pacific, and the Far East. These members are designated for one year terms. The General Conference elects 22 members from the remaining nations to two year terms. Eleven are elected each year. The 22 elected members must also represent a stipulated geographic diversity (Statute). The current Board members are: Argentina, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bolivia, Brazil, Canada, Chile, the People's Republic of China, Colombia, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Egypt, Ethiopia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, India, Indonesia, Japan, Libya, Morocco, Nigeria, Norway, Pakistan, Republic of Korea, Russian Federation, Slovenia, South Africa, Sweden, Syria, Thailand, United Kingdom, United States of America, (IAEA Board of Governors 2006–2007). The IAEA serves as an intergovernmental forum for scientific and technical co-operation in the peaceful use of nuclear technology worldwide. The IAEA's programmes encourage the development of the peaceful applications of nuclear technology, provide international safeguards against its misuse, and facilitate the application of safety measures in its use. IAEA expanded its nuclear safety efforts in response to the Chernobyl disaster in 1986. The IAEA was headed by Hans Blix from 1981 to 1997. The current head of the organization is the Egyptian Mohamed ElBaradei. At the 49th General Conference, ElBaradei was confirmed as Director General until 2009. The IAEA´s mission is guided by the interests and needs of Member States, strategic plans and the vision embodied in the IAEA Statute (see below). Three main pillars - or areas of work - underpin the IAEA´s mission: Safety and Security; Science and Technology; and Safeguards and Verification. The Agency and Director General Mohamed ElBaradei were awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2005. In Dr. ElBaradei's speech he stated that only 1% of the money spent on developing new weapons would be enough to feed the entire world and that, if we hope to escape self-destruction, then nuclear weapons should have no place in our collective conscience, and no role in our security. Nobel Lecture. The Chernobyl disaster was an accident at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant on April 26, 1986 at 01:23 a.m., consisting of an explosion at the plant and subsequent radioactive contamination of the surrounding geographic area. The power plant is located at 51°23′23″N, 30°5′58″E, near Pripyat, Ukraine, at the time part of the Soviet Union. It is regarded as the worst accident ever in the history of nuclear power. A plume of radioactive fallout drifted over parts of the western Soviet Union, Eastern and Western Europe, Scandinavia, the UK, Ireland and eastern North America. Large areas of Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia were badly contaminated, resulting in the evacuation and resettlement of over 336,000 people. The IAEA is a specialized agency of the United Nations (UN). The IAEA is not under direct control of any UN body, but reports to both the General Assembly and the Security Council. The IAEA’s structure and function is defined by its founding document: the IAEA’s Statute (see below). The IAEA had three main bodies: the Board of Governors, the General Conference, and the Secretariat. The Board of Governors is one of two policy making bodies of the IAEA. The Board consists of 13 members designated by the outgoing Board and 22 members elected by the General Conference. The outgoing Board designates the ten members who are the most advanced in atomic energy technology and the remaining three most advanced members from any of the following areas that are not represented by the first ten: North America, Latin America, Western Europe, Eastern Europe, Africa, Middle East and South Asia, South East Asia, the Pacific, and the Far East. These members are designated for one year terms. The General Conference elects 22 members from the remaining nations to two year terms. Eleven are elected each year. The 22 elected members must also represent a stipulated geographic diversity (Statute). The current Board members are: Argentina, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bolivia, Brazil, Canada, Chile, the People's Republic of China, Colombia, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Egypt, Ethiopia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, India, Indonesia, Japan, Libya, Morocco, Nigeria, Norway, Pakistan, Republic of Korea, Russian Federation, Slovenia, South Africa, Sweden, Syria, Thailand, United Kingdom, United States of America, (IAEA Board of Governors 2006–2007). IAEA and Iran In February 2003 Mohamed ElBaradei traveled to Iran with a team of inspectors to investigate Iran's nuclear program. By November, Dr. ElBaradei stated that there was "no evidence" that Iran was pursuing nuclear weapons, but also that he was "still not in a position to conclude that there are no undeclared nuclear materials or activities in Iran."[1] On December 18, 2003 Iran signed the Additional Protocol at the IAEA headquarters in Vienna, and acted in accord with its provisions pending completion of ratification of the protocol. [2]. On February 4, 2006 the Board of the International Atomic Energy Agency decided ("resolved") to request the Director General to make a report concerning Iran to the United Nations Security Council following the March 2006 meeting of the IAEA Board. This resolution was decided by a vote of 27-3 (27 member nations voted for the resolution, 3, Cuba, Syria and Venezuela, voted against the resolution, and the remaining 5, Algeria, Libya, Indonesia, South Africa and Belarus, abstained)." Now that we have some idea what and who is involved, I am confident that we can now make reasonable observations with regards to the subject of Iran having nuclear program and not belabour too much on President Yayah Jameh's opinion. Subject: Invade Iran, If You Dare Message: Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati: Who told you the Americans will attack us? The Americans are stuck up to their knees in mud and filth in Iraq, and cannot get out of it. They are stuck there, and are at a loss. Everybody has complaints about them, both within America and outside it. The entire world hates them because of their aggression towards the Iraqi people. How will they dare show up here? Once they were beyond our firing range. Today the Americans are within our firing range. They have placed us under siege, but in a way, this is to our benefit, because they are within our firing range now. In the west, in the east –they are within our firing range everywhere. [...] If the Russians are at all smart, they should help us, because they know that the Americans are in a conflict with them, and that the Americans dealt them the most severe blow, which led to the collapse of the USSR. It absolutely crushed them. Now we are facing your enemy, which brought this disaster upon you. You must support and help us. [...] We are proud of our martyrdom. One of our people's slogans is: "Martyrdom is our pride." This was the slogan of Ali and Hossein. What are they trying to make us afraid of? Let's assume that you attack. Even if you are mad enough to carry this out – who are you trying to scare? If we were afraid of America, we would have withdrawn at the beginning of the revolution. We would have raised our hands and surrendered during the first days. If you dare, invade Iran, and you will see what disaster we will bring upon you. Subject: "Death to America" Chants Message: Speaker: Before the speech of Mr. Ahmadinejad, President of the Islamic Republic, I would like to call out several slogans, and you will answer me out loud. Today, throughout Islamic Iran, from south to north and from east to west, there is one cry only: Death to America. Crowd: Death to America Death to America […] Speaker: The hatred and rage of the Muslim people… Crowd: The hatred and rage of the Muslim people… Speaker: is directed towards America, the infidel Satanic regime... Crowd: is directed towards America, the infidel Satanic regime... Speaker: is directed towards America, the infidel Satanic regime... Crowd: is directed towards America, the infidel Satanic regime... Speaker: America is a [defeated] regime with broken horns… Crowd: America is a [defeated] regime with broken horns… Speaker: America is a [defeated] regime with broken horns… Crowd: America is a [defeated] regime with broken horns… Speaker: It waits [for Iran] to establish relations with it… Crowd: It waits [for Iran] to establish relations with it… Speaker: No way will we have relations with America… Crowd: No way will we have relations with America… Speaker: No way will we have relations with America… Crowd: No way will we have relations with America… Speaker: Our struggle with America is eternal… Crowd: Our struggle with America is eternal… Speaker: The cry of all people on Earth... Crowd: The cry of all people on Earth... Speaker: The cry of all people on Earth... Crowd: The cry of all people on Earth... Speaker: The cry of all people on Earth is: Crowd: The cry of all people on Earth is: Speaker: Death to the filthy and accursed America Crowd: Death to the filthy and accursed America [...] Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: During this year’s celebrations of the revolution, you have witnessed some of our scientists' technological and scientific achievements, [such as] the prevention and cure of the deadly AIDS disease. They are the ones who created this disease. They are the foundation for this disease. But the dear humanity-loving, and believing Iranian people is inventing the cure for it, and will place it at the disposal of all humanity. [...] We said to them: If you are in favor of dialogue, why do you insist on suspension [of uranium enrichment]? If we suspend [enrichment], what will be left for us to discuss? How come your [nuclear] fuel plants can work day and night at full capacity, whereas the Iranian people, which is only at the beginning of the road, must stop the operation of ours? We said that we are ready for dialogue, but under just and equal conditions, and not when your plants operate day and night, while we have to stop and beg at your doorstep for our right. The Iranian people will never accept such humiliation. [...] Last year, you insisted on your right, and today, with Allah's grace, you have consolidated this indisputable right, and you have sprayed the dust of despair and regret on the faces of your enemies. This celebration is the Iranian people's great celebration of its nuclear energy. They should know that they have failed. The Iranian people still stands firm. Our dear leader still stands firm, and the government, which serves the people, still stands firm. They should know that nobody in this country is entitled to give up even one iota of the rights of the Iranian people. The world should know that whoever displays – in his heart, his speech, or his actions – even the smallest compromise or surrender of the Iranian people's right will be considered the most detested person among the Iranian people. […] Obviously, the enemies will say things and will take measures for several months, but they know and we know that the dear Iranian people overcame the obstacle on February 11, 2007, and has consolidated its indisputable right. Of course, you should know that by April 9, 2007, you will have witnessed the great progress of the Iranian people, and several great and rare steps of progress will be presented to you, in the fields of industry, agriculture, and medicine, and especially in the field of nuclear technology. Subject: BILDERBERG - SECRET WORLD GOVERNMENT? Message: Collectively, these are the men who control the world, and their decisions therefore affect every human being on earth, now and in the future. Yet Bilderberg Group meetings receive no publicity and are not reported in the news. Their first recorded meeting was at the Bilderberg Hotel in Oosterbeek, Holland, from 29th May to 31st May, 1954. The chairman was H.R.H. Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands. Since then this elite global group, which may be much older, has been called the Bilderberg Group. The people who are invited to the Bilderberg Group, and the topics discussed, are official secrets which the media is forbidden from reporting. Bilderberg is effectively an elite secret society ruling the world from behind closed doors and outside the democratic framework. In a recent Radio documentary the BBC disclosed that the decision to create a European Union was taken at the first official Bilderberg Group meeting in 1953, but the rest of the programme was devoted to portraying Bilderberg as a superficial extension of Western democracy. Who organizes the Bilderberg Group? Who pays for it? What are they discussing? What are they deciding? BBC News, "Bilderberg: The ultimate conspiracy theory", 3 June 2004. The Bilderberg Group has been called the most exclusive, and secretive club in the world. To be admitted, you have to run a multinational bank, a giant corporation or a country. Since its first meeting in 1953, it has been attended by every British Prime Minister. But until now its very existence has been shrouded in secrecy. Simon Cox investigates the hidden world of the Bilderberg Group. Is it the anti-democratic conspiracy that its critics allege or just a private meeting to help foster global understanding? On Thursday the Bilderberg group marks its 50th anniversary with the start of its yearly meeting. For four days some of the West's chief political movers, business leaders, bankers, industrialists and strategic thinkers will hunker down in a five-star hotel in northern Italy to talk about global issues. What sets Bilderberg apart from other high-powered get-togethers, such as the annual World Economic Forum (WEF), is its mystique. Not a word of what is said at Bilderberg meetings can be breathed outside. No reporters are invited in and while confidential minutes of meetings are taken, names are not noted. The shadowy aura extends further - the anonymous answerphone message, for example; the fact that conference venues are kept secret. The group, which includes luminaries such as Henry Kissinger and former UK chancellor Kenneth Clarke, does not even have a website. DISCREET AND ELITE This year Bilderberg has announced a list of attendees In the void created by such aloofness, an extraordinary conspiracy theory has grown up around the group that alleges the fate of the world is decided by Bilderberg. In Yugoslavia, leading Serbs have blamed Bilderberg for triggering the war which led to the downfall of Slobodan Milosevic. The Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, the London nail-bomber David Copeland and Osama Bin Laden are all said to have bought into the theory that Bilderberg pulls the strings with which national governments dance. And while hardline right-wingers and libertarians accuse Bilderberg of being a liberal Zionist plot, leftists such as activist Tony Gosling are equally critical. A former journalist, Mr Gosling runs a campaign against the group from his home in Bristol, UK. "My main problem is the secrecy. When so many people with so much power get together in one place I think we are owed an explanation of what is going on. SF Indymedia, "Club Class" Subject: Former NPRC Mineral Resources Minister Joins PMDC Message: Rtd. Col, Glover, who is currently residing in the United Kingdom, intimated this reporter in a telephone interview yesterday that he decided to join the PMDC because he is with the conviction that it is only the PMDC that can liberate the country from the poor state of the economy. “I have for the past year been following developments in the country but much has not been achieved by the ruling SLPP government, as the economy continues to deteriorate and citizens continue to live in hardship,” he said, adding that it is a big shame to the government that after ten years in governance they cannot deliver the goods that the people are yearning for, and called for a change. He stated that having studied the ongoing political situation in Sierra Leone, he is with the personal conviction that only the PMDC that can effect change that the people are yearning for. He maintained that the coming election would determine the future of the country and called on Sierra Leoneans to be foresighted in electing leaders that they think have the country at heart. I could be recalled that Rtd. Colonel Reginald Glover was a strong and influential member of the former NPRC regime that handed over power to the elected government of Alhaji Dr. Ahmed Tejan Kabbah in 1996. He has since been in United Kingdom, but what he has been up to remains a big secret, like what he did with all the diamonds they stole from the Bank of Sierra Leone before they departed for their holiday in Europe and the US Subject: PMDC will change that country. Message: Subject: Re: PMDC will change that country. Message: Subject: Re: Former NPRC Mineral Resources Minister Joins PMDC Message: He and another of his yes men whom I now recall as Kabineh kept me for five hours at their Cockerill office asking me all sorts of stupid questions. My crime? I was taking pictures of a piece of land I had bought at Hill Station when I was taken down to Cockerill on suspicions that I was taking pictures of structures to be used on an imminent attack on their government. How foolish? Subject: Re: Former NPRC Mineral Resources Minister Joins PMDC Message: IT IS ONLY A MONGREL THAT KNOWS A BASTERD. I WOUNT TELL YOU WHERE HE LIVES OR WORK FOR CONFIDENTIALITY. BUT TRUST ME HIS GOT A ROOF OVER HIS HEAD AND A VERY GOOD JOB AS HEAD OF SERVICE.HE GOT MARRIED ON FRIDAY 16TH OF FEB AND I WAS THERE.HOWEVER IF YOU WANT TO GET HIM COME TO PECKHAM POSITIVE AT WINDHAM ROAD OFF CAMBERWELL ROAD SOUTH EAST LONDON. ON THE FIRST SUNDAY OF EVERY MONTH BETWEEN 3TO 6PM. BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE WE USUALLY CONDUCT OUR MEETINGS.OR IF YOU WANT TO CHILL OUT WHICH IS WHAT YOU NEED, MEET US AT CORTS WINE BAY ON BINEY STREE OFF OXFORD STREET ON FRIDAYS ANY TIME AFTER 5PM. THATS WHERE WE CHILL AFTER A HEARD WEEK IN THE OFFICE.MIND YOU IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR TROUBLE, THEN MAKE SURE YOU COME PREPARED TO THE MAX OR DONT BOTHER. BECAUSE WEVE GOT HARD NUTTERS WHO ARE BADDER THAN YOU. YOU MAY BE ABLE TO GET ONE OF US OFF GAURD.BUT TRUS ME WHEN WE ARE READY NOT EVEN AN ANT IN YOUR NEIGHBOURHOOD WILL BE SPEARED. SO THE CHOICE IS YOURS He and another of his yes men whom I now recall as Kabineh kept me for five hours at their Cockerill office asking me all sorts of stupid questions. WHERE DO YOU EXPECT HIM TO TAKE YOU? WHEREELSE? My crime? I was taking pictures of a piece of land I had bought at Hill Station when I was taken down to Cockerill on suspicions that I was taking pictures of structures to be used on an imminent attack on their government. TWO WEEKS AGO I WENT FOR SUNDAY MASS AT THE VIRTICAN AND GUESS WHAT? I WAS SERCHED BEFORE I ENTERED AND I WAS NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE A PHOTO OF THE GREAT PAPAS ALTER. NOT EVEN THE TUMB OF MY HERO JP2 How foolish? DID YOU GET BRA Es GOOD VIBES ON SECURITY? SEEN! LIKKLE MORE Subject: Re: Former NPRC Mineral Resources Minister Joins PMDC Message: Subject: Re: Former NPRC Mineral Resources Minister Joins PMDC Message: Bra E, LEK WHO EVER YOU LEK. BUT MESELF NOR LEK MAN WAE SO DESPERATE FOR PAWER THAT EE GO EVEN KILL WOMAN EN 23 MAN DEM EN SELL THE MAN WAE FET FOR BRING AM BACK NAR PAWER, DEN FINALLY TWIST WE CONSTITUTION FOR SUIT EE COMFORT. Reginald Glover's style of disrespecting ordinary Sierra Leoneans was deliberate, LEK THE ORDINARY SA.LONE MAN WAE GO TROWAY EE WEF PAN AM FOR JOB. OR LEH THE WOMAN WAE LEF EE MAN DAE SLEEP NAR NET EN JUMP GO NAR EE HOS FOR GO SLEEP WIT AM JUS FOR LEH EE MAN KEEP EE JOB. OR YOU MEAN TEJAN KABBA EN BEREWA THE TWO ORDINARY SALONE MAN DEM WAE BEEN DAE ADVISE DEM EN KEEP QUIT PAN OLL DEM BAB BAD TIN DEM WAE REGGIE BIN DAE DO? If there is anything to learn in The United Kingdom, it will be the fact that soldiers are servants, not bullies REALLY? Bra E LEF NOR.GO IRAQ EN SEE WAE BRITISH EN US SOJA DEM DAE BOOT THROUGH MOSQUES EN GO ISAI WITH DEM BOOTS ON,AREST D IMAM EN FLING AM INSAI THEM HOMVIE.AS Although he speaks in an aggresively unpolished tone ME MAN, THE MAN NAR BIN SOJA,HOW U WAN FOR LEH EE TORK? LEK LIBRA SOCIAL WORKER WAE WAN CONVINCE A FAMILY FOR ADOPT THEM WAYWARD PIKIN INTO CARE? OR FOR TORK LEK MARIED GUIDIANCE COUNSELLOR WAE WAN FOE SAVE BAMBOUT MARIED? AR BIN FOR VEX PAN AM IF YOU BIN TELL ME SAE EE SOJA BOOT NOR BIN POLISH FINE BECOS AS A GOOD SOJA NAR DART AR EXPECT FROM AM. NOR TO EE SOFTLY SOFTLY TONE AR INTREATED IN. SORRY FOR THE CAPS EN ME CREOLE Subject: Re: Former NPRC Mineral Resources Minister Joins PMDC Message: Subject: Re: Former NPRC Mineral Resources Minister Joins PMDC Message: HOWEVER AR STILL FOLLOW YOU DRIFT. Subject: Re: Former NPRC Mineral Resources Minister Joins PMDC Message: Subject: Liberia: Publisher Wanted By Police Over Publication of Sens Message: Print This Page Visit The Publisher's Site February 22, 2007 MFWA/IFEX reporter The Media Foundation for West Africa (MFWA) correspondent reported that in its 19 February edition, the "Independent" published photographs of Willis Knuckles, Minister of Presidential Affairs, and two women in an orgy. The code prohibits the dissemination of obscene materials without minimizing the risk of exposure to children under sixteen. The scandal involving the Minister of State for Presidential Affairs was first reported on in the independent newspaper "Public Agenda". Minister Willis Knuckles, at a press conference the same day, apologized to President Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf, his family, friends and associates. Commissioner Zargo said the Police would meet the leadership of the Press Union of Liberia on the matter. Subject: KABBAH IS PRAYING FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE IN HIS NATIVE TOWN Message: Subject: TRIBUTES TO APC CHIEF DURA Message: Is This The Same APC-Momoh Chief Dura? AWOKO NEWSPAPER Awoko Tok-Tok Is This The Same APC-Momoh Chief Dura? Or those who went to nursery schools might have been taught the story of the fabled fox. This animal, while on a stroll one day, chances upon a grape tree. It tries to reach the grapes but is unable. After several tries, it gives up its struggles and concludes that the grapes may be sour after all. We do not know between the above two where Paramount Chief Alimamy Dura II of Sofroko Limba Chiefdom in the Bombali District fits in. His exclusive interview with the Standard Times of Monday January 29, 2007 made interesting reading and made us grasped for breath to think whether it was the same Chief Dura during the Joseph Saidu Momoh era that granted that interview in which he admonished traditional rulers to eschew from politics. If there was any single Paramount Chief that bastardized the institution of chieftaincy and fused it with State, Chief Dura should be a case study. This was the man who in the mid 1980s to early 1990s was one of the shakers and movers of the politics of Sierra Leone. He engaged himself in national politics so much so that his name became the forename of “Binkolo” which at the time was synonymous with corruption, tribalism, cronyism and all the negative “isms” that the All People’s Congress (APC) was infested with. In fact, he was one of the personifications of all what was wrong with the then APC government. So we are lost when we read this man saying that, “Any chief who meddles in party politics is inviting trouble for his people and himself…As chiefs, we have to be neutral. The lack of education about their role in society had resulted into the problem we are experiencing in this country…” This is a practical example of the “practice what I teach not what I do” philosophy. We want to ask some few questions here. Is this the same Paramount Chief Alimamy Dura II of Sofroko Limba Chiefdom in the Bombali District that is giving this advice to his colleagues? Is this man now asking his contemporaries to disdain national politics because of his experience during and after the National Provisional Ruling Council (NPRC) rule? Has he recently seen the light and now believes that what he was doing during the APC era was outrightly wrong? Or is he now giving this recommendation because he is unable to penetrate the ruling Sierra Leone People’s Party (SLPP)? We are particularly interested in the last question because in that interview, he tells the newspaper that, “…they (Chief Dura and others) formed the SLPP and that he is the only surviving founding member of the SLPP.” The inference we get here is that, like others who were the shakers and movers in the then APC government but now stalwarts and advisors in the SLPP, he wants to make a comeback through a chameleonic antic. If this man was one of the founding members of the SLPP, then why was he so vociferous and determined for the APC to be in power at all cost? Though we believe that traditional rulers should have nothing to do with national politics, such a counsel should not come from Chief Dura because while he had the energy to put it into practice he did not. Or is he now wise through age and knows better? Does he think he would be listened to when he never ruled by example? We have nothing against Chief Dura personally. What we are against is his double standards. Subject: FEATURE-Sierra Leone navy shoot to catch Chinese fishermen Message: FREETOWN, Feb 23 (Reuters) - When Beijing donated a long-range patrol boat to Sierra Leone's navy, little did it realise the vessel's first catch would be Chinese fishermen poaching off the West African coast. Navy officers fired their first shots in anger since the end of Sierra Leone's civil war to apprehend the Chinese trawler this week, sending rifle volleys across its bow after a high-speed ocean chase lasting an hour, a senior commander said. "When they saw us coming they decided to weigh up their nets and flee, so we pursued them," the patrol boat's captain, Lieutenant Commander Sallieu Kanu, told Reuters late on Thursday. "That is a gross violation of international law." Like other West African nations, the poverty-stricken former British colony is battling to safeguard its dwindling fish stocks, the cheapest source of protein for its 5 million people who are still recovering from the effects of a 1991-2002 war. West Africa's shores are home to some of the world's largest concentrations of fish, crustaceans and molluscs, but its coastal communities are among the poorest, relying on antiquated fishing methods which are no match for industrial rivals. Fleets of trawlers, many of them Chinese and Korean, spend weeks plying the seas off the Atlantic coast, taking advantage of lax policing to land catches of shrimp, barracuda, lobster, snapper and others worth up to $10,000 a day per boat. Greenpeace says pirate fishing is worth between $4 billion and $9 billion a year and accounts for about 20 percent of the world's total catch. Illegal fishing strips about $1 billion worth of fish from sub-Saharan African waters alone each year. LOSING BATTLE The 35-metre Chinese trawler, named Lian Run 27, ignored repeated commands to stop when it was spotted with three other Chinese fishing vessels three miles from land, contravening an exclusion zone that extends five miles, Kanu said. At this range boats take young and breeding fish out of the water, and rip through the nets of local fishermen, who ply the muddy waters in home-made canoes dug out of tree trunks. The captured vessel is now anchored off the coastal capital Freetown under armed guard, with its mixed Chinese and Sierra Leonean crew still aboard. A fine of up to $30,000 must be paid to the Ministry of Fisheries before the boat is released. While foreign trawlers stand to profit from the high-stakes fishing racket, Sierra Leone's cash-strapped navy finds it hard to keep pirates at bay. The patrol boat donated by the Chinese is the only such long-range vessel it owns. "We can't afford to go to sea throughout the month," Kanu said. "We consume 4,000 gallons of fuel a month to keep our boats on the sea. We need twice that and two more vessels to patrol the coast effectively." He said the last few months had seen a dramatic increase in night-time sightings of trawlers. The first time he chased down a Korean vessel, he was offered a $10,000 bribe to turn a blind eye, he added. Subject: Another Great Chief has Gone Message: Subject: Re: FEATURE-Sierra Leone navy shoot to catch Chinese fishermen Message: Subject: Deja vu Message: It is common for public servants with opposition sympathies to loose their jobs under various guises. We empathize with those that may have gone through that wrenching experience because of their free democratic will to support the All People's Congress It is not a crime to belong to a political party other than the ruling party. Government departments are not the property of the ruling party. And as such none should be denied privileges ordinarily due to citizens simply because they differ in partisan views. We have come a long way in pain and suffering to realize the value of free expression. It is not a crime to belong to a political party other than the ruling party. Opposition views should not be punishable by loss of livelihood, especially with unemployment at its peak, jobs are hard to find. And the few jobs available happen to be the domain of Wuteteh elites. I see a human rights issue here added to a tacit denial of free expression of association and speech enshrined in the constitution. It is dehumanizing to have to put up with Wuteteh euphoria at work just to keep your job. To those who cannot express alternative APC party stalwarts are forced to go underground in-order to keep their jobs. This will certainly not happen to SLPP stalwarts in an APC administration. A mind set of win all take all permeates at the SLPP HQ!In his mission statement at the party’s website, the SLPP Secretary General acknowledged his party has an image problem: “The APC and to some extent the public had branded the SLPP as an elitist party dominated by Mendes”. This statement rings true today as it did 40 years ago! He further quoted: “Although this charge was not entirely true, there were grounds that gave credence to it”. Foot in the mouth! He further intimated “The APC preached broad-based party ideology”. What a damning admission! The All People’s Congress party has always been the one that A mind set of win all take all permeates at the SLPP HQ!The palm tree has neither fed us nor provided shelter in time of need. We are still in the dark in our homes. Running water is hard to come by. The sun will rise again and liberate this nation from darkness come July 28. COMMNETS: Court of law? The APC has no regard for the rule of law. This was the bunch that cowered Sierra Leone from a parliamentary democracy into an APC party only dictatorship in a matter of twenty four hours. This was the party that savaged opposition candidates and detained them to ensure their own candidates were routinely returned unopposed. "It is not a crime to belong to a political party other than the ruling party". Tell that to SLPP members whose party was decalred illegal for nearly thirty years". "Opposition views should not be punishable by loss of livelihood, especially with unemployment at its peak, jobs are hard to find". Under the APC opposition views were punishable by death! Remember Fornah, Lansana, bangura, et al? "It is dehumanizing to have to put up with Wuteteh euphoria at work just to keep your job". I guess it was better when we had to put of with Ekutay euphoria to simply stay alive. "That culture of intimidation and bullying has no place in the politics of today! Those who perpetrate such acts will surely have their day in court". This guy cannot be serious. The APC refined intimidation and bullying was their MO. This in fact is the very face of the APC in Sierra Leone. It is the main reason why they will fail again in the pending electoral cycle. “The APC and to some extent the public had branded the SLPP as an elitist party dominated by Mendes”. The APC will not be whole again until it cures itself of its Mende obsession. The SLPP started as a party for people of the provinces, and it remained so until factions in the North bolted to form the APC. Today the APC is primarily a Temne/Limba party and the SLPP is primarily a Mende/Sherbro party. That is the way it is and there is no harm in that. Live and let live and eventually these demarcations will dissolve. The APC preference for forcing issues that must be allowed to evolve sowed the seeds for the chaos that Sierra Leone has endured. "To the APC, the kaleidoscope of ethnicity is a resource that is celebrated, not frowned at; in contrast to the SLPP". The national cabinet and civil service under Sir Milton, Sir Albert, and now Tejan Kabbah were, and are far more diversified than under the APC administrations of both Stevens and Momoh. The APC as a tolerant entity is the greatest fallacy ever perpetuated on the people of Sierra Leone. This is a party that is still in agnst over whether its standard bearer is a 'Pure" Temne. The APC views merit as evil and tribalistic. Their approach is a quota system, and the incompetence it produced in the management of agencies like the SLPMB were devastating. "A mind set of win all take all permeates at the SLPP HQ!" As it certainly always did, and still does in APC HQ. After reading through this gibberish, I am left wondering: are the APC fully aware of their disastrous record? Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: What is the meaning of "those most responsible" for crimes against humanity when the architect of such crimes are busy with party politics, behaving as is blameless? Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Yesterday you wrote: "hail Farrah and embrace him as someone with the bold God-fearing character that sends a prickling sensation running down your veins" And who is this farrah marrah you were "hailing?" Again, let us hear the rebel himself admit he is a rebel: Do you now see how we KNOW you are a rebel? Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Don't you mean why did the runaway jailbird, Charles Taylor sponsor his fellow ex-jailbird, Foday Sankoh, to cut off the hands of innocent babies, rape innocent young girls, kill innocent children, women and men in their tens of thousands, kidnap loot poor villagers crops, burn humdreds of thousands of inocent villagers' hardearned houses, slaughter innocent Saloneans, and then eat their still twitching flesh? Now, rebel, answer for your actual deeds. Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Which group of unpatriotic, selfish crinimals introduced cut-han, mass murder, gang rape, cut-foot, cut lip, cut-nose, etc. into salone? If you say the vile criminals known as RUG rebels, you would be RIGHT for the first time today. Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Here it is again (and it will not go away): Which group of unpatriotic, selfish criminals INTRODUCED cut-han, mass murder, gang rape, cut-foot, cut lip, cut-nose, etc. into salone? If you say the vile criminals known as RUF rebels, you would be RIGHT for the first time today. Pay attention, for once, to the word, "introduce" and you will know that the RUF criminals are responsible for the cut-han, mass murder, gang rape, cut-foot, cut lip, cut-nose, etc. in salone. Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: it is either: true OR not true. The expression you used in a futile attempt at obfuscation "is not exclusively true that the RUF started the maiming" is as NONSENSICAL as your equally foolish claim made to confuse yourself (not us who know the truth) -- "hinga and Foday sankoh were once comrades in their struggle." Look, you chronically retarded rebel, whether Norman and Sankoh were once schoolmates, born on the same day, or smoked the same brand of cigarettes is TOTALLY irrelevant to the quesestion you keep runing away from,. That question, which excluisively nails your rebel criminal cannibal, Foday Sankoh, as the one who STARTED the Cut-han, gang rape, burn-house, and other atrocities in 1991 (not, 1900, 1967, 1971, 1980, or any other date that you wish to twin Norman to him, you retarded rebel) is: WHO STARTED THE CUT-HAN, GANG RAPE, ETC. IN 1991 TO START THE REBEL WAR -- IN 1991, (REPEAT AFTER ME, 1991, 1991, 1991, 1991, 1991, 1991, O, RETARDED REBEL)! Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: ACTUALLY, they show that you ARE retarded. Check out the proof you unwittingly provided by writing the following specific nonsense: " .. resorted to an insultive altercation with you ..." William Bangura, there is NO such word in the English language as "insultive ..!" Because you are a butcher (of human beings, like the RUF rebels you support), it is understandable that you would wish to butcher any and everything around you. For example: 1. You, William Bangura, you butcher the truth -- by denying that the RUF rebel Foday Sankoh did not start the RUF atrocities that started the rebel war in 1991. 2. Then, William Bangura, you butcher your own identity -- by hiding behind the false name Farrah Marrah in order to insult (not "insultive") the victims of your RUF rebel atrocities (the innocent people of Salone). 3. Then you butcher Kabs-Kanu's Christian forum's integrity -- by lying about your identity as William Bangura, the RUF rebel (and so violating another one of God's Ten Commandments). BUT, YOU CROSSED THE LINE, WILLIAM BANGURA (REBEL) WHEN YOU BUTCHERED THE QUEEN'S ENGLISH -- by fraudulently presenting to us as English, a word that is not part of the English language ("insultive"). THAT WILL NOT STAND, RETARDED OR NOT, REBEL OR NOT, WILLIAM BANGURA! For that, O retarded rebel -- (please see the irrefutable proof of your retarded status which you yourself provided us above, without knowing it, of course -- since you ARE retarded) -- your punishment is that you WILL answer the question that you have been running away from all morning today: Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: I would rather you accept the truth of your rebel atrocities that your leader Foday Sankoh and his fellow depraved criminals committed against millions of inocent Saloneans. Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Farrah marrah and I are no same individuals. I am what I am. faraway from your present domain. going backl to your question: I will maintain thus: THE RUF DID NOT START THE MAIMING OF OUR PEOPLE. My answer will not satisfy. Where do we go from here then? Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: But, CAN you teach that which you know not? No more than you can change the FACT that the criminal cannibal, Foday Sankoh, started the vicious war in 1991. Facts, as lawyyers tell us, are stubborn things. They never change to accomodate liars -- whether they are lying about English words or about the identity of the leader of the rebels who murdered tens of thousands of saloneans. NOw, Mr. run-away-from-the-truth, go on and anser the question -- this time truthfully, if you ever can! Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: That is ten times if my maths is not wrong. satisfied? If you are let us proceed to your next question to which I will be delighted to respond. Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: For your information, it was the worst mass murderer in the history of Salone, Foday Sankoh, who started the worst civil war in Salone's history by invading our country in 1991. He and his criminal cannibals then terrorized our people for the next 10 years -- by murdering, raping, amputating, burning, kidnapping, sexually-enslaving, and generally terrorizing innocent children, women and men in Salone. Those are facts which your pathetic screaming tantrums will never erase -- remember, if you can, what I told you about facts: They do not go away, no matter how you wish them to go away! Methinks those are much more useful facts to memorize that the lie you repeated 10 times in your last post. Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: TRUTH and I are two different individuals. Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Right -- like you and William Bangura are "two different individuals." Why, William Bangura, are you runing away from the same question, over, and over again? Here it is (I told you it would not go away: WHO STARTED THE REBEL WAR IN 1991 BY INVADING SALONE UNDER THE RUF BANNER? (Hint: His name is synonymous with the most bestial atriocities ever visited upon innocent Saloneans by -- who else -- his RUF rebels)! Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: But you can post your name, address, date of birth and government issued ID number, stating the type of ID, ID number, date of issue, date of expiration and country of issue. Even though you do not know it (that retaded thing), that is a more authentic way to identify you than hearing your rebel voice on a phone. Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Subject: Re: Deja vu: Stop Talking YET More Nonsense Message: I have said that "TRUTH AND JUSTICE WAS ON OUR SIDE" now that has come to PASS. Subject: Re: Deja vu: Stop Talking YET More Nonsense Message: Which one of the millions of innocent Salonean children, women, and men whom your bestial RUF criminals raped, tortured, mutilated, burned, murdered and then drank their syill warm blood, before eating their inocent human flesh, even knew your few "people" who you claim were mistreated by Siaka Stevens and a few of his APC people? ANSWER: Probably NOT A SINGLE ONE! So, why would the RUF criminals target those innocent Saloneeans for their PERSONAL vendetta against Stevens and a FEW of his people? Do you now see why people say you cannot think straight? It is not an insult to say you are retarded, rebel William Bangura. It is the plain truth. Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: So, tell me: How likely is it that you and Farrah Marrah are different persons who have demonstrated the exact same mental deficiency -- an inability to think straight? It is not your ID being misused that should concern you -- after all, no one wants to be confused with a rebel! You should be more concerned about misusing your God-given brain -- by telling lie, after lie. It is not too late to start repenting .... Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Please do not respond to "Stop Talking YET More Nonsense". They will all LOSE THIS DEBATE. Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Well, well, William, Bangura, are we back to that familiar problem of yours (the one about using words you don't understand)? How can you call the your failure to answer questions about the culpability of your rebel murderers, rapists, arsonists, child-abusers -- cannibals aka RUF rebels -- a "debate?" Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: A question that is more relevant to the present SLPP government that seeks relection despite its notorious record of corruption, condoning murder, and other acts of lawlessness. Subject: Re: Deja vu Message: Subject: THEY PASSED HIM OFF Message: I SAY THAT WE ASK FOR AN INTERNATIONAL FORENSIC EXPERT PATHOLOGIST TO DO THE POST MORTEM. DO YOU GUYS REMEMBER HIS DAUGHTER SAYING THAT SHE DID NOT WANT HER FATHER TO DIE LIKE FODAY SANKOH DID. WELL!!!!! HE JUST DID. THE SLPP MADE SURE THAT HIS IV WAS SATURATED WITH ENOUGH OF A PARTICULAR MEDICATION WHICH WOULD OVERWHELM HIS HEART AND CAUSE HEART FAILURE. AHH SLPP DON FINISH KPATA KPATA FOR SARO Subject: Re: THEY PASSED HIM OFF Message: Subject: Re: THEY PASSED HIM OFF Message: Youman, who told you that the man had any names to name? the trial was over and the verdict was pending when he died. Now go back and get some information before youcast your lustful mouth in a place where you have no bizness....I like your "funny" name, because that is exactly how you sound. Subject: Re: THEY PASSED HIM OFF Message: RUBBISH, HE HAS FINISHED NAMING NAMES AND THE SLPP KABBAH IS THE ONLY NAME HE CALLED. Subject: Competition Message: http://www.essaycompetition.org/ Subject: Re: Competition Message: Subject: America Face the Truth About 9/11? Part II Message: By Mark H. Gaffney – February 21, 2007 Yes, Generals Do Lie I have shown that pentagon hawks and neo cons share a grand strategy that is inimical to the greater good. For which reason their global agenda was, from a political standpoint, virtually unobtainable through functioning democratic institutions. This establishes a powerful motive. But does it follow that they conspired to subvert democracy to achieve their sweeping goals? Were they complicit in 9/11? Or, worse: did they stage the attack? Such a conclusion, of course, would not necessarily follow–––were it not for the incriminating fact that Generals Eberhart and Myers lied to the 9/11 Commission, and to Congress. This is not just my opinion. It was the opinion of various members of the 9/11 Commission. On August 2, 2006 the Washington Post reported that “...staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the pentagon’s initial story of how it reacted to the terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public, rather than a reflection of the fog of war. Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of the tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation.”40 Thomas H. Kean, panel chairman, told the Post: “We, to this day, don’t know why NORAD told us what they told us. It was just so far from the truth.” John Farmer, another member of the panel, who happened to be a former New Jersey attorney general, described his gut reaction: “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described.” Unfortunately, the Post story quickly dropped out of the news and was forgotten. Nor is the episode recounted in the 9/11 Commission Report, which goes to great lengths to exonerate the generals of any wrongdoing. Indeed, the final report is a carefully sanitized work of the imagination, with credit going to Philip Zelikow, a Bush insider who stage-managed the 9/11 investigation from start to finish. When Zelikow’s close ties to Condeleeza Rice were revealed in testimony before the commission, the families of the 9/11 victims demanded his resignation, but to no avail. Zelikow and his staff not only controlled the panel’s schedule and agenda, and the flow of information to panel members, they also oversaw the preparation of the final report, hence, made key decisions about what to include and what to leave out.41 We know, additionally, that Zelikow sent the draft report to the White House for a final “proofing.” This was the devil’s bargain finagled in return for Bush’s “cooperation.” For all of these reasons the 9/11 Commission was in no truthful sense an independent body. We should not be surprised that its final product is an impeccably scrubbed rendition of the official 9/11 narrative. This Phil Zelikow dutifully accomplished on behalf of his boss, G.W. Bush, by smoothing over impossible contradictions through the practiced arts of deletion and deception. CLICK ON LINK BELOW TO READ THE FULL ARTICLE: Subject: Re: America Face the Truth About 9/11? Part II Message: Subject: Will America Face the Truth About 9/11? Part I Message: By Mark H. Gaffney - February 21, 2007 On June 1, 2001 the US Joint Chiefs of Staff issued a new order regarding cases of aircraft piracy, i.e., hijackings. The new order (CJCSI 3610.01A), signed by Vice Admiral S. A. Fry, Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, canceled the existing order (CJCSI 3610.01) that had been in effect since July 1997. When I learned about this, recently, I became intrigued. The date of the new order, just three months prior to 9/11, seemed too near that fateful day to be mere coincidence. I should mention that I have always been skeptical of the official 9/11 narrative. The June 2001 order was like a red flag drawing attention to an insistent question: Why did the US military alter its hijack policy a few months before 9/11? Why, indeed? When I first examined the document, which, by the way, is still posted on the internet, my excitement increased.2 The order states that when hijackings occur the military’s operational commanders at the pentagon and at the North American Aerospace Command (NORAD) must contact the secretary of defense for approval and further instruction. At that time, of course, this was Donald Rumsfeld. Was the new order, therefore, evidence of a policy change made for the purpose of engineering a stand-down on 9/11? This was plausible, assuming that a group of evildoers within the Bush administration wanted a terrorist plot to succeed for their own twisted reasons. And what might those reasons be? Well, obviously, to create the pretext for a much more aggressive US foreign policy that the American people would not otherwise support. We know, for instance, that the plans to invade Afghanistan were already sitting on President Bush’s desk on 9/11, awaiting his signature. Did the US military achieve a stand-down on 9/11 by means of an ordinary administrative memo? Several prominent 9/11 investigators had already drawn this conclusion, including Jim Marrs, who is a very capable journalist. Marrs discussed the June 1, 2001 pentagon order in his fine book, The Terror Conspiracy. Filmmaker Dylan Avery is another. He mentioned the order in a similar context in his popular video, Loose Change (Second Edition). A third investigator, Webster Griffin Tarpley, did likewise in his book, 9/11 Synthetic Terror, one of the deepest examinations of 9/11 in print.4 Although initially I agreed with their conclusion, after studying the document more closely I found reason to change my mind. CLICK LINK BELOW TO READ THE REST OF THE ARTICLE. Subject: Re: Will America Face the Truth About 9/11? Part I Message: Subject: An accident waiting to happen Message: Email this article Some years ago, I was lucky enough to buy my dream car. It was a low white sports model with pop-up headlights. Within 10 minutes of my gleefully driving it out of the dealer’s showroom, I found myself wedged in traffic with a four-wheel-drive slowly backing into me. The driver was seated high up. He couldn’t see me and was oblivious to my frantic use of the horn. You can guess the rest. Whenever I think of Iran I’m reminded of that trauma and my inability to prevent it. Think about it! As the world goes about its business as usual, the US could well be on the brink of attacking Iran’s nuclear facilities using nuclear-tipped bunker busters. Evidence there is such a plan on the table is coming thick and fast but there is nothing we can do about it. Just as I did on that fateful day my new car was mangled, we can only shout to the wind and await the fireworks. One of the most disturbing things is the way the new US Defense Secretary Bob Gates keeps insisting his country has absolutely no plans to attack Iran. Dan Plesch, one of Britain’s leading commentators on defense and security doesn’t believe him. “American military operations for a major conventional war with Iran could be implemented any day,” says Plesch. “They extend far beyond targeting suspect WMD facilities and will enable President Bush to destroy Iran’s military, political and economic infrastructure overnight using conventional weapons.” Professor of International Law Francis A. Boyle doesn’t believe him. He wants George W. Bush and US Vice President Dick Cheney impeached before they can start a wider war in the Middle East. “I believe that they [the neoconservatives] would like the opportunity to break the taboo of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and indicate to the world -- we here in the United States are fully prepared to use nuclear weapons and we just used them against Iran,” he recently said on Talk Nation Radio. Former UN weapons inspector, turned peace activist, Scott Ritter isn’t swallowing Gates’ assurances either. Here’s what he said on the subject during a recent lecture: “Ladies and gentlemen, we’re going to war with Iran. It’s going to happen. There’s nothing we can do to stop it.” The UN can’t do anything because George Bush knows there is no way such a drastic course will get past Russia and China. Some Democratic members of Congress are trying to do something. Speaker Nancy Pelosi and others want to force Bush to get the permission of lawmakers before he embarks on further preemptive wars. But in the absence of a backbone, Congress, with its slavish adherence to anything in the perceived interests of Israel, is unlikely to put up a fight. Still struggling to find a way out of the Iraq fiasco, the US president knows he’s virtually on his own with this one. His lame duck buddy, Tony Blair, is in no position to link arms this time around, while Russia’s Vladimir Putin isn’t pulling any punches when it comes to America’s aggression and its ambitions to dominate the planet. So he would have to be stark staring mad to bomb Iran against such opposition and in light of the political, humanitarian and economic mayhem that such an attack would trigger. Wouldn’t he? In truth, there could be method in his madness. Various papers penned by his neocon friends before he took office (“Clean Break” and the Project for the New American Century’s “Rebuilding America’s Defenses”) make clear the Bush administration’s end goal, which is control of this region and its resources to stem the rise of competitors. There were basically two obstacles to that goal: Iraq and Iran. Iraq has been dealt with and now there is only one. Bush has vowed that he will not leave office with the prospect of Iran achieving a nuclear arsenal any time soon. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has repeatedly called Iran an existential threat to Israel and promised to thwart Iranian nuclear ambitions. The Iranians say they have no intention of dismantling their enrichment program. So in this case, something has to give. But if attacking Iran is indeed his intention, how will Bush go about selling the idea to a skeptical public? The answer is he can’t. This obstacle leaves him with two options. The first option would be to give Israel the green light to start bombing under the pretext Iran represents a danger to its very existence. As a close ally, the US would thus be obliged to join the fray. The second option would involve the US launching what is known as a “false flag” operation, whereby it might bomb one of its own ships or planes and accuse the Iranians of striking first. There are precedents for this. For more on False Flag operations, you can Google “Operation Northwoods,” “The Gulf of Tonkin,” the “USS Liberty” or “The Lavon Affair.” Also pertinent is the leaked White House memo that records a pre-Iraq war discussion between Bush and Tony Blair on ways to goad Saddam into making the first move. One idea involved sending a US military jet painted with United Nations colors over Iraq in the hope the Iraqis would be stupid enough to shoot it down. Interestingly, former US National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski, once a fervent advocate of full spectrum US domination, recently warned a Senate committee that the Bush administration might resort to such tactics. A false flag operation would allow the US to play victim and frame any attack on Iran in a defensive light. Just as it did before going into Iraq, the White House is demonizing the Iranian leadership. It is making accusations that Iran is supplying Iraqi insurgents and death squads with sophisticated weapons and aiding the Taleban in Afghanistan. Dubious intelligence reports are being produced concerning Iran’s nuclear status. It’s happening again. Or is it? On the surface it looks like it. Bush has appointed an admiral to run the show. US aircraft carriers, strike forces and submarines are congregating in the region and the US asked permission from Turkey to launch an attack on Iran from its Incirlik Air Base, according to the UAE daily Al-Bayan. Turkey is said to have refused. There is another possibility, although to my mind not a probability. This could all be a giant bluff on the part of the US in the hopes Iran will look at the devastation wrought on Iraq and roll over. At this stage there is no way of knowing. My beautiful sports car was eventually repaired and looked as good as new but if the neocon war wagon is allowed to trundle over this region, it and the world will be scarred forever. Linda S. Heard is a British specialist writer on Middle East affairs. She welcomes feedback and can be contacted by email at heardonthegrapevines@yahoo.co.uk. Copyright © 1998-2007 Online Journal Subject: RIP Chief Hinga Norman Message: The AFRC/RUFian bloodlust very quickly spread from Pujehun, Kenema, and Kailahun to engulf Kono, and then the Northern Province, and eventually Freetown itself. All over the country tears flowed in torrents as limbs of babies, school children, and adults alike were hacked off in imprecise brutality. All over the land there was much gnashing of teeth as we came to the painful realization that we did not have the troops or what it took to resist the carnage The Nigerian Dictator Abacha saw our plight as opportunity to spruce up his image. Other ECOWAS nations lent a hand but could not go all the way. Understandably they were unwilling to sacrifice their own children in a war they did not understand and may not have cared much about. All seemed to be lost or so we thought. But Chief Samuel Hinga Norman believed otherwise. He dreamt of a plan to leverage the skills of local hunters into local militia that would protect their own. The Kamajors, Donsos and similar other militias evolved into a credible Civil Defense Force (CDF) that in my opinion is one of the few positive outcomes of our ten year civil war. The CDF fought hard, paid the AFRC/RUFians in kind, and denied them victory. The CDF held them at bay until Britain under Tony Blair jumped in to finally defeat the AFRC/RUFian alliance. The UN set up a court to look into the whole sordid matter. We thought then that it was a great idea. We will have to wait for history to put the work of the Court into perspective. But I am not going to wait to denounce their treatment of the one man who more than any other saved Sierra Leone, Chief Hinga Norman. He was a GOSL minister in good standing. That did not stop agents of the international court to march into his office, handcuff him, and throw him behind bars. There was nary a protest from the government that he served. There was nary the volume or intensity of protest from rank and file Sierra Leoneans on his behalf. The powers that be busied themselves funding NGOs for former rebel killers as Chief Norman wasted in jail. Now suddenly he is gone. I am numb. I am pacing up and down, and I have not been able to eat since I heard the sad news. He is not the first to suffer the brunt of Sierra Leonean ingratitude for those who have served them bravely and well. How ironic that 'Amazing Grace', a movie about British abolition of slavery and therefore the founding of Sierra Leone itself debuts in three days. But Sierra Leone has already effaced the names of heroes of that movement from places of honor in Sierra Leone. The list is long and illustrious: Sir Milton, Sir Albert, Bertham Macauley, Wadi Williams, Chief Julius Gulama and his daughter, Chief Ella Gulama Koblo, etc. no longer are revered in a country with a notoriously brief memory span. But I think when all has calmed down and saner minds and magnanimous souls again come to the fore of Sierra Leonean affairs, I am convinced they will each be restored to their rightful place of honor. And Chief Samuel Hinga Norman will stand tall along deserving giants as a genuine hero of Sierra Leone. MAY GOD GO WITH YOU, CHIEF NORMAN. Subject: Re: RIP Chief Hinga Norman Message: orright try mek you eat somtin ya, en hosh for berrin. way for do we all geh for taste death someday even cannibal sef tumbu go eat all nar part of the FOOD CHAIN Subject: Re: RIP Chief Hinga Norman Message: Subject: Re: RIP Chief Hinga Norman Message: Subject: Re: RIP Chief Hinga Norman Message: Subject: Re: RIP Chief Hinga Norman Message: Subject: Re: RIP Chief Hinga Norman Message: Subject: Re: RIP Chief Hinga Norman Message: Subject: Re: RIP Chief Hinga Norman Message: Subject: Re: RIP Chief Hinga Norman Message: Subject: Re: RIP Chief Hinga Norman Message: Subject: Upside of diamond 'conflict' Message: Today, the industry says that less than 1 percent of diamonds on the market come from war zones, compared with about 4 percent in the late 1990s. Nobody can guarantee that illegal trading does not occur because most of the diamonds in Sierra Leone are alluvial, meaning they are near the surface in present and former riverbeds, where villagers scratch the soil for precious stones. But most people flocking to Koidu these days are bona-fide Western investors. - Mr. Campbell flew out to Sierra Leone for the first time late last month. In Botswana, where De Beers has formed a joint venture with the government and the industry represents one-third of the country's gross domestic product, diamond revenues allow free education for every child up to age 13. "There is a good story to be told: how diamonds are used for good," he said. Mr. Izhakoff conceded, however, that "even one diamond that penetrates the legitimate market is one diamond too many, because we do have zero tolerance for any conflict diamonds on the market. We are striving to make it perfect. We are not resting on our laurels." Annie Dunnebacke, a campaigner on the conflict-diamond team at Global Witness, the advocacy group that al3rted the world to the problem in 1998, said one of the reasons for the drop in the illegal trade is simply that a lot of the conflicts have stopped. Despite that, diamonds are still being smuggled out of countries such as the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Global Witness recently screened a documentary by Sierra Leone filmmaker Sorious Samura called "Blood on a Stone," which tells how illicit African diamonds continue to be smuggled out and sold. Although "you are never going to stop smuggling," she said, the industry can take action to improve the situation. Global Witness wants more government oversight of the diamond industry and better independent auditing of its processes. A second source of diamonds, more often found in central and western Africa, involves alluvial deposits, where erosion over millions of years has scattered diamonds across riverbeds. Unlike kimberlite, such deposits are rarely of interest to big companies, but up to 15 percent of the world's rough diamonds come from these informal digs, which are often unlicensed and open to corruption. "The challenge is: De Beers is only 40 percent of the market. What about the other 60 percent?" asked professor Alyson Warhurst, who heads strategy and international development at Warwick Business School and has advised De Beers on best practice over the past five years. "I don't know of any other product that is so audited. Although one conflict diamond is one too many, the source of it is not the formal mining industry. They are part of the solution," Ms. Warhurst said. What countries such as Sierra Leone need, say diamond-industry participants, is investment. "Even at the height of the problem in the 1990s, only 4 percent of the global output came from areas considered to be 'conflict areas.' So there is a lot of light at the end of a very short tunnel." Subject: Kabbah to be roped to the special court Message: AS Hinga Norman's commander in chief at the time of the conflict it is illogic to scapegoat Hinga Norman when supplies, command, and logistics were coming from Kabbah. He will be Saddamized when the APC - PMDC duo takes over in June. Interesting times lie ahead. Subject: Re: Kabbah to be roped to the special court Message: Subject: Re: Kabbah to be roped to the special court Message: We beging his countdown today: 157 days more Subject: Re: Kabbah to be roped to the special court Message: Neither the APC or PMDC can pool enough votes as solo entities to unseat the SLPP. However their joint votes will suffice build a coalition government that can topple the sitting government. Here's where I see Ernest Koroma and Charles Taylor armwrestle on the presidency. The stalemate will last for a shortwhile after which they'll decide who the president should be by representation. But true, Kabbah will be roped and it is to avoid his being Saddamized that he is putting his pence and shillings on Berewa. Subject: Re: Kabbah to be roped to the special court Message: Are you sure that Doc. Nahim is not looking for you? Subject: Re: Kabbah to be roped to the special court Message: Subject: Re: Kabbah to be roped to the special court Message: Subject: Re: Kabbah to be roped to the special court Message: Subject: DFID scared off SLPP "Long Hand" Message: According to the Christian Monitor Newsppaer, The World Bank will manage the money, instead of the Government, because of the distrust in the SLPP Government by international community. According to the paper, Lloyd During, minister of energy and power says the project is worthwhile and he is pleased with the move by DFID not to hand the money directly to the SLPP Government but rather submit it as a trust fund with the World Bank. Subject: Re: DFID scared off SLPP "Long Hand" Message: Subject: Re: DFID scared off SLPP "Long Hand" Message: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Economic prospects for Sierra Leone are "encouraging" with mining operations and mineral exports rising and services growth picking up, the International Monetary Fund said on Tuesday. In its annual economic review of the West African state, the IMF said growth is likely to stabilize between 6.0 to 7.0 percent during 2006 and 2010. It said inflation would likely converge to single digits by the end of 2007, while the current account deficit would narrow, boosted by gold exports. The projected strong and broad-based growth will, however, still have little impact in reducing poverty, particularly in rural areas, the IMF said. "Poverty-reducing efforts have yet to make notable progress," the Fund said. The Fund urged the international community to maintain its support for reconstruction of the country recovering from an 11-year civil war. Paris Club creditors last month wrote off all of Sierra Leone's outstanding $218 million debt and the IMF urged non-Paris Club nations to do the same. Subject: Re: DFID scared off SLPP "Long Hand" Message: Subject: Re: DFID scared off SLPP "Long Hand" Message: Let me try to educate you. Salone signed an agreement with DFID and WB last year when Wolf fowitz and Benn of DFID visited Freetown. Part of the agreement called for a single donor basket to be joinly administered by the WB, UNDP and the GOSL. This was done inorder to fast track the disbursement process by various donors, and to also create a single and simple mechanism for donors helping salone. Subject: Re: DFID scared off SLPP "Long Hand" Message: Lef the fioolulu, na idiot.E for ask omus DFID de pay den consultants den nar Freetown. Kroobay is a disgrace. Nar foolomunku for true. Subject: Re: DFID scared off SLPP "Long Hand" Message: Subject: Re: DFID scared off SLPP "Long Hand" Message: Subject: Re: DFID scared off SLPP "Long Hand" Message: Subject: Re: DFID scared off SLPP "Long Hand" Message: Subject: WE CANNOT BECOME ENLIGHTENED BY IMAGINING FIGURES OF LIGHT! Message: Foday Sankoh met his death by unexplained circumstances. The wise knows that he had a lot to spill thus warranted his untimely accession to the hague. I have learnt and is still learning. Subject: Margai Just Won the Presidency Message: The people in the South and East are going to find someone to blame, and guess what, they will conclude that the SLPP is responsible for Norman's death - fair or not Get used to saying President Charles Francis Margai. The Special Court has been one big blunder after the other. We did not need it at this time. Why Kabbah, and his Government agreed to the terms, and why parliament approved it beats me. They will all live to regret their stupid decision. Subject: Re: Margai Just Won the Presidency Message: Subject: Re: Margai Just Won the Presidency VICTORY SONG Message: TEJAN KABBA be neh yer felay aa nar Gbaleh nya ma Gbooo SOLOMON REREWA be mende MAHEI WARGA aaa nar gbaleh nya ma TEJAN KABBA be ndae hu nyania aa nar gbaleh nya ma Solomon Berewa bea be wan ni ar courti aa na Gbaleh nya ma Oyer SOLO B BE TORKPOI NYANIA AA NAR GBALEH MU MA Subject: Re: Margai Just Won the Presidency Message: Subject: Re: Margai Just Won the Presidency Message: Subject: Sierra Leone war crimes indictee Hinga Norman dies Message: DAKAR (Reuters) - Sierra Leone's former Defense Minister Sam Hinga Norman, on trial for war crimes at a U.N.-backed tribunal in the West African country, died on Thursday in Senegal weeks before a verdict was due. Hinga Norman, who was coordinator of the pro-government Civil Defense Forces (CDF) militia during the former British colony's 1991-2002 civil war, was flown to a military hospital in Senegal in January for medical treatment. "At about 1055 (GMT) Mr. Norman collapsed and, despite attempts to revive him, was pronounced dead at about 1115," the U.N.-backed Special Court for Sierra Leone said in a statement. "Initial indications are that Mr. Norman suffered heart failure during post-operative care," it said. The court's highest-profile indictee, former president of neighboring Liberia Charles Taylor, has been sent to a special sitting of the court in The Hague to faces war crimes charges linked to his support for rebels during the war. Subject: Re: Sierra Leone war crimes indictee Hinga Norman dies Message: Condolences to the Chief's family and friends, condolences to Sierra Leone and Senegal. I hope as this sad sad news is sinking in I'm voicing that small part of loss that we all are feeling, and we hope that there will of course be an autopsy and a full independent investigation. There is always silence before the earth quakes. Subject: HINGA NORMAN PASSES AWAY IN SENEGAL Message: Special Court for Sierra Leone PRESS RELEASE Freetown, Sierra Leone, 22 February 207 Mr. Norman and another Special Court detainee were taken to Dakar on 17 January for medical procedures which were considered routine, but which were unavailable in Sierra Leone. Those procedures were performed on Thursday, 8 February, without complication. At 10:55 this morning Mr. Norman collapsed and, despite attempts to revive him, was pronounced dead at about 11:15. Mr. Munlo informed family members early this afternoon and expressed his deep personal regret at their loss. 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> On 2/19/07, MohmJ@... wrote:
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> "And so it is with the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. Because it failed to accurately identify the primary cause of the 1999-2002 war, in my humble
> opinion, it thereby failed to abate the risk of an unwitting repeat of the actions which I contend had led to the lethal conflagration."
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> Moh'm:
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> But what makes you think that they have failed to identify the root cause? In addition, and using one of your many citations, "where is the evidence" that the TRC missed the boat? Or even better, where is the evidence that substantiates your claim that the TRC failed to pin-point the main cause of the war as you have stated here, and in your recently published paper?
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> Best regards,
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> Amadu Massally
From: Knice
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God forbid the thought that I will ever put myself in a position of showing sympathy for, not to mention even thinking of defending the murderous RUF. I also agree that Foday Sankoh’s actions were petty and mainly personal vendetta, first for his incarceration by the APC and secondly, for having spent all those years in the army without ever rising above the rank of corporal. I agree too that foreigners notably Liberia’s Charles Taylor took advantage of Foday Sankoh and his RUFians to exacerbate our suffering.
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Knice wrote on February 26, 2007:
"In any case let us now call a spade a spade by desisting from further sugarcoating of nearly three decades of brutal APC assault on our values, on our institutions, and on our persons. For real healing to take place in Sierra Leone we must now recognize and acknowledge once and for all, that record as the single most important cause for the chaos and suffering that we have endured and continue to suffer."
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Knice for all the supposed "murders" of the APC regieme, I notice that you have said nothing about the NPRC's brutal murder of bambay kamara, Salami coker, and the SLPP's murder of Kula samba, Boisy Palmer and others. You are indeed a one sided thinker. Start being objective man and then we can all come to the table and start plotting our future with some degree of objectivity.
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Alieu, I am categorically against the death penalty. I cannot imagine any justification for it. I cannot imagine anybody who deserves it. Not Foday Sankoh, not Sam Bockari, not Johnny Paul, not anyone. I am especially against political killings. When you consider that nearly all capital punishment administered in Sierra Leone over the last forty years or so has been of political opponents, the conclusion is inescapable and disturbing. We have proved totally incapable of fair and responsible jurisdiction of capital punishment, and we should therefore just remove it from our code of laws.
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 10:50:52 02/28/07 ()
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But by and large Sierra Leoneans have a soft spot for the NPRC
"I am not going to defend my thinking, one sided or not. And I am not concerned about bias and objectivity. These are matters of personal opinion. I do hope that my postings are factual, and I do hope that they are sufficiently provocative to inspire deeper thoughtfulness in our discussions."
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Knice wqrote on February 28, 2007:
"And I am not concerned about bias and objectivity. These are matters of personal opinion."
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 23:25:03 02/26/07 ()
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Knice,
Thank you for your brilliantly crafted disguised idiosycratic evaluation of thirty years of APC MISRULE.
I have questions for you. Tell us what you did during those thiry years to change things for the better for our people? Did you oppose the regime? give details and evidence?
Yaya Fanusie-APC
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Yayah, come to think of it I once wrote a letter to the editor of “West Africa Magazine”, following Siaka Stevens’ declaration of an APC party only Republic, with himself as president for life. I recall vividly the gist of my letter which was that the Pa was setting precedence that would prove disastrous for the country. Looking back I can see that I was quite prescient if I should say so myself, and at a very young age too. Then as now the response to my thoughts was more visceral than thoughtful. An APC partisan responded with the central point that for the APC to do otherwise would amount to political suicide. I was also inundated by letters and other communication from family and relatives, all in the neighborhood of ‘do you want to get us into trouble’ and other hysteria, which together amounted to evidence of a totally cowered populace.
From: Amidu Lahai
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This makes a lot of sense, unlike the TRC's statement about how the war started. To buy the TRC's version, one would have to believe that it was the majority of the people of Sa Lon who invaded their own country and proceeded to cut their own hands, cut their own feet, murder their relatives and friends, etc. That makes no sense.
From: FARRAH M ARRAH
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Date Posted: 22:18:13 02/24/07 ()
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Moh'm,
Why was Taylor in Libya?
What was the role of "le vieux" Houphet-Boigny of the Ivory Coast? What was the relationship between Houphet and Tolbert of Liberia?
Can Blaise Compaore of Burkina Faso destabilise a region by himself?
Why did Tony Blair and his administration establish a government in exile for Kabbah in Guinea to the tune of a million dollars--a conservative figure?
"..."the structures of governance could only be changed through violence."
From: DUMBER THAN DUMB
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Date Posted: 01:14:11 02/25/07 ()
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Before Mr. Jalloh answers you, let me tell you what many people have already told you. You can't think straight.
From: FARRAH MARRAH
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Date Posted: 09:00:57 02/25/07 ()
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DUMBER THAN DUMB,
The questions were posed to Moh'm and not you.
This concludes that you DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER.
The military, Sierra Leone Army (SLA) because they are INCLUSIVE of the government had easier access to Freetown than the RUF. What was their ploy to ferry truckload of soldiers to Freetown, AGAIN?
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"The origianl architect of the coup was Capt. Ben Hirsch. Sandy led the coup, not Strasser.
The military, Sierra Leone Army (SLA) because they are INCLUSIVE of the government had easier access to Freetown than the RUF. What was their ploy to ferry truckload of soldiers to Freetown, AGAIN?"
From: DUMBER THAN DUMB
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Date Posted: 09:41:11 02/25/07 ()
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"Your response are INDICATIVE THAT YOU have no answers to the questions that I posed."
From: Abdul Kamara
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Date Posted: 08:35:11 02/25/07 ()
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dis Farrah Marrah look well so? di man dae tok so so boto bata.
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 11:57:19 02/24/07 ()
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I do not think the TRC misidentified the causes of Sierra Leone's civil war. Sierra Leone has simply refused to be ashamed of its sad political history. Any unvarnished explanation about the bastardization of Sierra Leone will return a stinging indictment for the ruling class. We cannot expect the privileged to probe themselves. The TRC was merely a political act to give the semblance that Sierra Leone, like any war-battered country, did some soul-searching after shooting itself in the foot. When I look at some countries in recent history, TRC---or variations of it---make healthier political readings than anything Sierra Leone has done.
"Never Again" in German history means that country must perennially guard against any return to the kind of expansionism that held Europe at ransom with two of the bloodiest wars in history. Although German atonement is sometimes questionable, the nation's political class has never done anything to revive European fears of German militarism.
From: FARRAH MARRAH
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Date Posted: 21:48:34 02/24/07 ()
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BRA ENVIABLE,
During the TRC Moigboi Kosia--a former captain in the Sierra Leone Army (SLA) and ex RUF officer, testified that the initial "cut han and cut foot" was executed by soldiers of the (SLA). This statement was not refuted.
From: Paul Bangura
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Date Posted: 21:26:45 02/25/07 ()
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I read this peace with a little concern. Pa Kosia made those revelations when he thought he could save the RUF, his organization. Anybody in his right frame of mind and lived in Sierra Leone would agree with me that the first person to have had his hands amputated was Tamba Ngaujah when he was defending his country in Kono. He was not a DONSO (Kono equivalent for KAMAJOR). Ngaujah was fighting as a vigilante on the side of the Army. The Army could not have done that kind of inhuman act (although most of us at some time saw that same army as rebels and referred to them as Sobels) But what I am looking at here is your last claim that nobody refuted Pa Kosia's statement. Pa Kosia knew it himself that he was not telling the truth. Also the fact that nobody refuted his statement doesn't mean he was telling the truth. Pa Kosia was trying to win people to accept the RUF. In a not too distant future I will let Sierra Leone and the world know why there was a war and who pushed Sankoh into it. Norman has also died without talking like Sankoh. He had something to tell but could not. THE PEOPLE MUST KNOW.
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 23:39:53 02/25/07 ()
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Paul I know Tamba Ngaujah, he is my friend and a double amputee. We bind enerytime I go to freetown. He is always seen with his trade mark fedora, in the area of sweissy or commercial bank beging for his bread. Indeed Tamba was one of the first soldiers to be amputated by the RUF. Speaking to Farrah Marrah is like butting your head on the wall. Farrah is one of those sierra leoneans who openly supported the killing and maiming of many of his own bretheren ostensibly to avenge the death of his uncle. While i do not condone the death of his uncle, I am aghast that any sierra leonean would so openly support the RUF and its cause and sadly that is Farrah Marrah that we know.
From: Paul Bangura
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Date Posted: 21:24:08 02/25/07 ()
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I read this peace with a little concern. Pa Kosia made those revelations when he thought he could save the RUF, his organization. Anybody in his right frame of mind and lived in Sierra Leone would agree with me that the first person to have had his hands amputated was Tamba Ngaujah when he was defending his country in Kono. He was not a DONSO (Kono equivalent for KAMAJOR). Ngaujah was fighting as a vigilante on the side of the Army. The Army could not have done that kind of inhuman act (although most of us at some time saw that same army as rebels and referred to them as Sobels) But what I am looking at here is your last claim that nobody refuted Pa Kosia's statement. Pa Kosia knew it himself that he was not telling the truth. Also the fact that nobody refuted his statement doesn't mean he was telling the truth. Pa Kosia was trying to win people to accept the RUF. In a not too distant future I will let Sierra Leone and the world know why there was a war and who pushed Sankoh into it. Norman has also died without talking like Sankoh. He had something to tell but he has been silenced because they would not want you to know so that you would not vote against them come the elections in July. They are there. The elections are not far away and the people MUST KNOW who to vote for.
From: Paul Bangura
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Date Posted: 21:15:13 02/25/07 ()
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I read this peace with a little concern. Pa Kosia made those revelations when he thought he could save the RUF, his organization. Anybody in his right frame of mind and lived in Sierra Leone would agree with me that the first person to have had his hands amputated was Tamba Ngaujah when he was defending his country in Kono. He was not a DONSO (Kono equivalent for KAMAJOR). Ngaujah was fighting as a vigilante an the side of the Army. The Army could not have done that kind ogf inhuman act (although most of us at some time saw that same army as rebels and referred to them as Sobels) But what I am looking at here is your last claim that nobody refuted Pa Kosia's statement. Pa Kosia knew it himself that he was not telling the truth. Also the the fact that nody refuted his statement doesn't mean he was telling the truth. Pa Kosia was trying to win people to accept the RUF. In a not too distant future I will let Sierra Leone and the world know why there was a war and who pushed Sankoh into it. They are there. The elections are not far away and the people MUST KNOW who to vote for.
From: DUMBER THAN DUMB
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Date Posted: 01:21:11 02/25/07 ()
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"Do I comprehend that there were socio-economic and political problems that led to the civil/rebel war?"
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Your theory is fascinatng. I don't know if true or not, but it is not complete until you can annswer the question in your last paragraph. "How could the TRC have missed identifying the primary cause of the rebel war, with all the resources at its disposal to get to the bottom of the matter?"
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Here we go again,now everyone is out there with an analysis of a scenario that could have been prevented only if we had made our voices heard. How many of us really knew the importance of rallying for the freedom of the chief.We as Sierra leoneans need to be a little more proactive especially in preventing regrettable circumstances like Chief Norman's death.People were going on with there daily lives while Norman who fought for the redemption of our nation was languishing right in our mist in Freetown. We need a thorough introspection of our conscience rather than trying to extract political gains from such a sad situation.
From: Bongababeye on the cusp
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Date Posted: 15:41:22 02/24/07 ()
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" preventing regrettable circumstances like Chief Norman's death.People were going on with there daily lives while Norman who fought for the redemption of our nation was languishing right in our mist in Freetown."
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what i want to know is if the TRC said Salone must have a special court to try people like Hinga Norman. Isdcandri, do you knw, since you were a lawyer there?
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 20:02:26 02/23/07 ()
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The case against Hinga Norman will be dismissed in the interests of judstice. And it should be so. He is now arraigned in front of a greater judge, God almighty to whom he will answer charges.
From: Alie Formeh Kamara
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Date Posted: 12:34:34 02/24/07 ()
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I wholly disagree with your position on the matter. If the case is dismissed it cannot be in the interest of justice. If that were so, he should not have been arrested in the first place. His demise is not a good reason to dismiss the case. In the interest of justice the case must go on and a verdict pronounced.
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Mr. Formeh: I think Alie was only making a point based on preceedents and how international (as well as local) courts operate. Basically, a dead man has no case to answer. Once you are dead during the course of your trial ( before the verdict), all charges are dropped. I saw that in the Enron case, milosovich, Foday Sankoh, Maskita, etc etc. It really doesnt amount to guilt or not.
Again this might be different, if they are only waiting on a verdit. The rationale (in my unlawyerly opinion) for that is that, you cannot try someone who does not have the opportunity to be heard. This is just my opinion - and if that is true, then Chief Norman's case could be different in the sense that only a verdict is pending. But we would wait and see at this point.
Steve
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 15:26:53 02/24/07 ()
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But the international community is drawing a line on the sand by saying that you would only attain the status of a hero if in the act of this heroism you were not guilty of blatantly abusing human rights by willful killing, raping, and maiming of innocent people. I agree. Do you?
From: Kubatei
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Alieu thanks for your expression of decency at this time of grief. We all know your stance and respect you for it. But above all you have gained my respect for not rubbing it in at this time. It shows respect and that you have class.
From: Stop Talking YET More Nonsense
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Posted by Stop Talking YET More Nonsense, on February 23, 2007 at 17:32:33:
From: Truth
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President of Gambia Yahya Jammeh to Hizbullah TV: We Support Iran's Nuclear Program; All Countries Are Entitled to Obtain Nuclear Weapons Until These Are Abolished
Following are excerpts from an interview with President of Gambia Yayha Jammeh, which took place during a recent visit to Iran. The interview aired on Al-Manar TV on January 9, 2007.
From: Alie Formeh Kamara
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Date Posted: 19:46:05 02/23/07 ()
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Jammeh holds a utopian view about equal right among states. He is a liability to Gambia.
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Jammeh is clearly loosing his mind. Advocates of term limits for African leaders are on the correct path.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 12:54:27 02/24/07 ()
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Greetings my brothers and sisters. I have read through your pieces but unsure what you are alluding to. From my understanding, President Jameh is giving his personal opinion about "Iran's nuclear program", which he is entitled to. I would have hoped that we discussed the subject the interviewer stemmed-off, when he or she insinuated that "with regard to the international crisis that it has generated with regard to the peaceful nuclear program – I think the bottom line is for the international community to make sure that justice is done. I'll take you back to... Just recently, a major power that already has nuclear weapons – they said they are going to go in for a new generation of nuclear weapons, and that didn't raise an eyebrow in the West. My principal belief is that nobody should have nuclear weapons."
Therefore, what is our take on that subject, vis-a-vis the justice that is the responsibility of the International Community, to ensure that a peaceful co-existence prevails, or how justifiable it is, again, with regards to his or her above mentioned concern, for one nation to have it but prevents others from having it.
Now, I will bring your attention to the Cold War and many other wars that were fought over the years. But not wishing to delve too much into that, let me refer you to:
The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) was established as an autonomous organization on July 29, 1957. It seeks to promote the peaceful use of nuclear energy and to inhibit its use for military purposes. United States President Dwight D. Eisenhower envisioned, in his "Atoms for Peace" speech before the UN General Assembly in 1953, the creation of this international body to control and develop the use of atomic energy. The organization and its Director General, Mohamed ElBaradei, were jointly awarded the Nobel Peace Prize announced on 7 October 2005.
Media often refer to the IAEA as "the UN's Nuclear Watchdog". While this describes one of the Agency's roles, it is by no means the only one.
History
The IAEA serves as an intergovernmental forum for scientific and technical co-operation in the peaceful use of nuclear technology worldwide. The IAEA's programmes encourage the development of the peaceful applications of nuclear technology, provide international safeguards against its misuse, and facilitate the application of safety measures in its use. IAEA expanded its nuclear safety efforts in response to the Chernobyl disaster in 1986.
The IAEA was headed by Hans Blix from 1981 to 1997. The current head of the organization is the Egyptian Mohamed ElBaradei. At the 49th General Conference, ElBaradei was confirmed as Director General until 2009.
[edit] Structure and function
The IAEA is a specialized agency of the United Nations (UN). The IAEA is not under direct control of any UN body, but reports to both the General Assembly and the Security Council. The IAEA’s structure and function is defined by its founding document: the IAEA’s Statute (see below). The IAEA had three main bodies: the Board of Governors, the General Conference, and the Secretariat.
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Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati, Secretary of the Iranian Guardian Council, to the U.S: Invade Iran, If You Dare
Following are excerpts from an address by Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati, Secretary of the Iranian Guardian Council, which aired on Channel 1, Iranian TV, on February 10, 2007
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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Promises to Continue Nuclear Activities Following "Death to America" Chants
Following are excerpts from an address by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, which aired on Channel 1, Iranian TV, on February 11, 2007.
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BILDERBERG - SECRET WORLD GOVERNMENT?
The annual Bilderberg Group conference is the most important meeting in the world. It is attended annually by more world leaders, more top politicians, more royalty, and business leaders, than any other gathering of any kind. The G8 summit is a mere side-show in comparison. No other meeting is attended by the leaders of all the major international institutions, such as the World Bank, the IMF, the UN, and the EU.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3773019.stm
The Bilderberg group, an elite coterie of Western thinkers and power-brokers, has been accused of fixing the fate of the world behind closed doors. As the organisation marks its 50th anniversary, rumours are more rife than ever.
Given its reputation as perhaps the most powerful organisation in the world, the Bilderberg group doesn't go a bundle on its switchboard operations.
Telephone inquiries are met with an impersonal female voice - the Dutch equivalent of the BT Callminder woman - reciting back the number and inviting callers to "leave a message after the tone".
Anyone who accidentally dialled the number would probably think they had stumbled on just another residential answer machine.
But behind this ultra-modest façade lies one of the most controversial and hotly-debated alliances of our times.
On Thursday the Bilderberg group marks its 50th anniversary with the start of its yearly meeting.
For four days some of the West's chief political movers, business leaders, bankers, industrialists and strategic thinkers will hunker down in a five-star hotel in northern Italy to talk about global issues.
What sets Bilderberg apart from other high-powered get-togethers, such as the annual World Economic Forum (WEF), is its mystique.
Not a word of what is said at Bilderberg meetings can be breathed outside. No reporters are invited in and while confidential minutes of meetings are taken, names are not noted.
The shadowy aura extends further - the anonymous answerphone message, for example; the fact that conference venues are kept secret. The group, which includes luminaries such as Henry Kissinger and former UK chancellor Kenneth Clarke, does not even have a website.
In the void created by such aloofness, an extraordinary conspiracy theory has grown up around the group that alleges the fate of the world is decided by Bilderberg.
In Yugoslavia, leading Serbs have blamed Bilderberg for triggering the war which led to the downfall of Slobodan Milosevic. The Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, the London nail-bomber David Copeland and Osama Bin Laden are all said to have bought into the theory that Bilderberg pulls the strings with which national governments dance.
And while hardline right-wingers and libertarians accuse Bilderberg of being a liberal Zionist plot, leftists such as activist Tony Gosling are equally critical.
A former journalist, Mr Gosling runs a campaign against the group from his home in Bristol, UK.
"My main problem is the secrecy. When so many people with so much power get together in one place I think we are owed an explanation of what is going on.
Mr Gosling seizes on a quote from Will Hutton, the British economist and a former Bilderberg delegate, who likened it to the annual WEF gathering where "the consensus established is the backdrop against which policy is made worldwide".
"One of the first places I heard about the determination of US forces to attack Iraq was from leaks that came out of the 2002 Bilderberg meeting," says Mr Gosling.
But "privacy, rather than secrecy", is key to such a meeting says Financial Times journalist Martin Wolf, who has been invited several times in a non-reporting role.
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As an up-and-coming statesmen in the 1950s, Denis Healey, who went on to become a Labour chancellor, was one of the four founding members of Bilderberg (which was named after the hotel in Holland where the first meeting was held in 1954).
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"There's absolutely nothing in it. We never sought to reach a consensus on the big issues at Bilderberg. It's simply a place for discussion," says Lord Healey.
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That activists have seized on Bilderberg is no suprise to Alasdair Spark, an expert in conspiracy theories.
"The idea that a shadowy clique is running the world is nothing new. For hundreds of years people have believed the world is governed by a cabal of Jews.
"Shouldn't we expect that the rich and powerful organise things in their own interests. It's called capitalism."
BBC Radio 4, "Club Class", 3 Jul 2003, 20:00 GMT.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/whatson/prog_parse.cgi?FILENAME=20030703/20030703_2000_49700_4621_30
But behind this ultra-modest façade lies one of the most controversial and hotly-debated alliances of our times.
They include BP chief John Browne, US Senator John Edwards, World Bank president James Wolfensohn and Mrs Bill Gates
LISTEN TO BBC DOCUMENTARY:
http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/1624491.php
http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/bbc_radio_4_club_class.mp3
From: Edward Marah
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Former NPRC Mineral Resources Minister Joins PMDC
Posted by Edward Marah on Feb 23, 2007, 14:15
Former National Provisional Ruling Council (NPRC) Secretary of State Mineral Resources, Rtd. Col. Reginald D. Glover has joined the People’s Movement for Democratic Change (PMDC).
From: Bashiru kanneh
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Date Posted: 17:32:53 02/23/07 ()
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Charles Margai will change sierra leone, by removing all those thiefs calling them self politician.He is a man with preciple and respect who will never accept corruption in his life,
From: all in the famiy
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JUST DONT TELL HIS WIFE
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Date Posted: 14:48:35 02/23/07 ()
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Is this the same Glover bastard whose office I was taken to and harrassed while I was visiting Freetown?
I wish I knew his wherebouts.
From: Gen.TOMMY FRANKS FOR ONE LINER
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Date Posted: 07:45:08 02/24/07 ()
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Is this the same Glover bastard whose office I was taken to and harrassed while I was visiting Freetown?
I wish I knew his wherebouts.
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 19:07:51 02/23/07 ()
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I once desliked Glover just as you do. I desliked him for being so drunk with power that he never knew his limits. Reginald Glover's style of disrespecting ordinary Sierra Leoneans was deliberate, his demeanour uncivilized, to say the least. I am happy to know he now lives in London. If there is anything to learn in The United Kingdom, it will be the fact that soldiers are servants, not bullies. Although he speaks in an aggresively unpolished tone, Glover may have realized in the UK that police officers will serve, not intimidate him, when he needs them.
Having said all that, don't you think Glover tried to err on the side of security when he {allegedly} threatened you? Taking pictures in any part of town landmarked by strategic installations will get you in trouble, even in the USA. The war on terror now means that you can be accosted by a member of law enforcement for taking pictures around areas deemed sensitive by the Federal government. Elsewhere in the world, You may sink in deeper trouble if the country in question is at war. Whay you say, bra?
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I desliked him for being so drunk with power that he never knew his limits
GO ASK NAR HELMAND PROVINCE LEH DEM AFGHAN DEM TELL YOU HOW BRITISH SOJA DAE KILL WAN HOL FAMILY BECOS DEN SAY DEM DAE HOBOUR BIN LANDEN
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 07:04:24 02/24/07 ()
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Bra, you nar major man.
Western soldiers can also rape and kill,
but they do that away from home.
They do not misbehave at home.
From: Gen.TOMMY FRANKS.
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They do not misbehave at home.
Bra E,RUDNESS NAR RUDNESS WETHER SOJA DO AM NAR HOS OR NAR TREET OO E NOR MAK NO DIFFERENCE NAR THE SAME RUDNESS.PERSONALLY AR GO PREFER FOR DO AM NAR HOS THAN GO DO AM NAR TREET.BECOS FAMBUL DEM GO FORGIVE ME.BUT TREET NOR GO FORGIVE ME BECOS DEM NOR SABI ME.
From: true
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In some countries you will be shot first and questioned later.
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Liberia: Publisher Wanted By Police Over Publication of Sensitive Photographs
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Posted to the web February 23, 2007
On 20 February 2007, the Criminal Investigation Division (CID) of the Liberian Police declared Sam Dean, publisher of the privately-owned Monrovia-based newspaper "Independent", wanted for publishing pornographic materials.
Steven Zargo, the Commissioner of CID, told the MFWA correspondent that Dean is wanted because the publication violates Section 18.1 of the Penal Code of Liberia.
The Justice Ministry has issued a warning to arrest anyone caught reproducing and disseminating the photographic materials of the minister and two women.
From: Truth
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kabbah is now inhis birth place in kambia to pray for us so as to forgive ourselves for our crimes against ourselves. He believes we are all guilty of the mess Sierra leone sees today. He implores you to observe two minutes silence this sunday at 11.00am for the country and those who have fallen.
From: BINKOLO EKUTAY
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o1/27/07
Those Christians who have read the scr1ptures through and through or those who attended Sunday Schools in their childhood might have come across or have been taught the story of Saul. This man was once a persecutor of Christians until he saw the light on his way to Damascus. He became Paul and is credited for having written the highest number of books in the Holy Bible.
From: CHINESE
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FEATURE-Sierra Leone navy shoot to catch Chinese fishermen
23 Feb 2007 12:34:59 GMT
Source: Reuters
By James Knight and Katrina Manson
From: Radio Densay
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According to an UNCONFIRM report Paramount Chief ALIMAMY DURA of APC Ekutay BINKOLO Chiefdom has died. Over to you Cocorioko.
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Protecting our territorial waters is indeed nice to do. I wish the government could use a similar amount of excitement to retake Yenga.
From: KNICE
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I have taken the liberty to reproduce this piece that the APC acting secretary general wrote on another page of Cocorioko that does not get as wide reading as the forum, and my comments follow.
By Francis Pa Santhkie Bangura Acting Secretary
General, APC party USA
Party. Our hearts go to them and all those that face systematic intimidation at work or home for espousing opposition views. That culture of intimidation and bullying has no place in the politics of today! Those who perpetrate such acts will surely have their day in court. You may be dancing to the tune of the ruling party for now, but be reminded that if that behavior is proven then you will be dancing to the tune of a court of law.
Partisan views I say, now is the time to come out and be counted in the APC family.
Criss-crosses our cultural, regional and ethnic dimension at ease. To the APC, the kaleidoscope of ethnicity is a resource that is celebrated, not frowned at; in contrast to the SLPP. Diversity is a complement, not a threat as seen by some Wuteteh hardliners. A mind set of win all take all permeates at the SLPP HQ! Are we in the dark ages? Certainly not! Salone nar we all yone.
"You may be dancing to the tune of the ruling party for now, but be reminded that if that behavior is proven then you will be dancing to the tune of a court of law".
From: MUGBAY KAILAHUN HINDUAY
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Date Posted: 07:39:09 02/23/07 ()
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One of my greatest regrets is that the agitation for justice in Sierra Leone--if there is anything like that---has never considered dragging Ekutay to court for the mindless destruction of that small West African entity. For years, I have wondered, grown angry and even frustrated, at the way Sierra Leone looks at itself as a failed country. Are leaders not criminally culpable when they stand-by and watch a nation rot and flush itself down the gutter of self-destruction? National reconciliation is much needed after a civil war. However, both the legal and political phrases being used in Sierra Leone have never made sense to me.
Ekutay is more concerned with lording it over the South-East than they are with atoning for the willful destruction of Sierra Leone. How can anyone explain the regression from "The Athens of West Africa," to the one-party, authoritarian rule that supervised the destruction of Sierra Leone? How can anyone explain the patriotism of the Northern PHD holders that could not even foresee the invasion of a country they rendered militarily impotent? Crowing it all, one of their own--Abbas Bundu-- was the ECOWAS high priest when the final act of political suicide was enacted to lay Sierra Leone open to a war she could not fight. Is a nation not supposed to at least reprimand policy makers after a wild goose chase? In EKUTAY's case, is some degree of justice not dispensable when 24 years are spent plotting national destruction?
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 07:08:24 02/23/07 ()
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The author knows not what he writes. He penned his name on what he believes not.
From: NO REBEL ZONE
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Date Posted: 07:18:16 02/23/07 ()
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That could be said more accurately about you.
From: Truth
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Now you think I am a rebel? I have a mind of mine and no man coerces me to do that which i do not want to do. Label me a rebel - that is fine by me.
From: NO REBEL ZONE
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Date Posted: 07:39:01 02/23/07 ()
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I know you are a rebel supporter. don't take my word for it. Listen to your own confession:
"I support the Revolutionary United Front (RUF)." --- Posted by FARRAH MARRAH on February 22, 2007.
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 07:49:24 02/23/07 ()
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i am not a rebel my good brother/sister. I know your views/opinions on the crisis is onesided. I try to look at the whole. Why did our brothers and sisters rose up against the state? These are some of the questions I asked my self when the troubles started. I was a party that spent my time and hard earned cash lobbying the westminster parliament to the something about it. Then Peter Hain (now Welsh Minister) was at the Africa Desk at the House of Commons in London. I love my country but will not support the prolonged suffering of our people by her people. if that makes me a rebel, i am proud to be that rebel that you think I am. i still hold fervent my respect for Farrah marrah's bold declaration.
From: Correction
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Date Posted: 08:25:38 02/23/07 ()
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Why did our brothers and sisters rose up against the state?
From: Truth
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Did the TRC not say government militias had a hand in the atrocities you so described. Government had to maim and kill to appeal for help. Everyone thought it was the RUF alone doing these despicable atrocities. My fellow, look on the three sides of the coin. take a step back and study what both the RUF and government militia did to our people for their benefit. The RUF ideology was in no way about maiming and killing their own people. You are correct in saying taylor's involvement changed the whole game. ASsk any surviving RUF memeber who was in ASABA, Libya, if when they mounted raids in cassamance if they ever killed innocent and unarmed civilians. they targetted Senegalese soldiers and their apparatus. it is the government for fear of not knowing who are involved, maim and killed the innocent and unarmed civilians. the same was what was happening in Sierra leone until Taylor and other greedy Sierra leoneans in the diaspora changed the original directives. A lot has not been told my fellow. someday when we have some relative peace, we shall know.
From: Correction
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"Did the TRC not say government militias had a hand in the atrocities you so described."
From: Truth
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Our discussion is not getting any better. I refer you to the report and some reports of the indictments of Hinga norman and others of the government militia.
From: Correction
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Date Posted: 09:05:31 02/23/07 ()
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Never mind how the "discussion" is getting. Just answer the question, since there can be no discussion without you answering relevant questions.
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 09:13:58 02/23/07 ()
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You are asking me a question and you have given the answer you would want to hear. I will say, it is not exclusively true that the RUF started the maiming. The conflict was fought by the same people. hinga and Foday sankoh were once comrades in their struggle. they both knew tactics that will send chilling signals to the authorities who they were not able to get to at close range. Their tool was to maim our people and send psychological panic and fear amongst the authorities. Like i said, it is best you take a look at the TRC reports and some of the indictment reports of the SC.
From: Please Stop Talking Nonsense
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Date Posted: 10:04:23 02/23/07 ()
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"it is not exclusively true that the RUF started the maiming ..."
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 10:38:27 02/23/07 ()
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Your insults to my responses will not stop me from continuing our explorative reasoning. How retarded am i? God knows! You can tell from my reesponse to your insults that i am not retardfed, otherwise I would have resorted to an insultive altercation with you. I speak my mind slowly and believe in what i say. The RUF did not start the maiming of innocent and unarmed civilians. Again, I will refer you to the authoritative reports readily available to us all.
From: Please Stop Talking MORE Nonsense
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Date Posted: 11:05:41 02/23/07 ()
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"You can tell from my reesponse to your insults that i am not retardfed, otherwise I would have resorted to an insultive altercation with you." -- Posted by Self-admitted rebel
WHO STARTED THE CUT-HAN, GANG RAPE, ETC. IN 1991 TO START THE REBEL WAR -- IN 1991, (REPEAT AFTER ME, 1991, 1991, 1991, 1991, 1991, 1991, O, RETARDED REBEL)!
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 11:52:32 02/23/07 ()
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You will need to buy a professional dictionary of word, meanings and semantics. Try getting hold of An Anthropological or diplomatic dictionary and you will more words that do not exist in you limited dictionary. Man constructs words and pray others will accept their usage. i would not get too deep into that. Change any of my words you think are wrong to make sense for you. i will accept your corrections.
From: Please STOP Talking MORE Nonsense
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Date Posted: 11:56:53 02/23/07 ()
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"I will accept your corrections."
From: Truth
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In the root cause lie the resposibility. All became maimers and murderers. If you are honest enough you will admit your little participation in the atrocities meted on our people. GUILTY! GUILTY! MY GOOD MAN.
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 11:47:35 02/23/07 ()
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I guess also you masterly control the English language that is now widely spoken and written in the forms. i am not here to teach you the english language. it is not my mother tongue and i am not boasting that i masterly control it. if you thinking my 'insultive' word is out of context of form then change it to insulting or better still, i believe you did understand what i was saying.
From: Please Stop Talking MORE Nonsense
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"I am not here to teach you the english language:"
From: Truth
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I thought I was the retarded on or the one hard of hearing.
RUF DID NOT START THE MAIMING OF OUR PEOPLE!!!
RUF DID NOT START THE MAIMING OF OUR PEOPLE!!!
RUF DID NOT START THE MAIMING OF OUR PEOPLE!!!
RUF DID NOT START THE MAIMING OF OUR PEOPLE!!!
RUF DID NOT START THE MAIMING OF OUR PEOPLE!!!
RUF DID NOT START THE MAIMING OF OUR PEOPLE!!!
RUF DID NOT START THE MAIMING OF OUR PEOPLE!!!
RUF DID NOT START THE MAIMING OF OUR PEOPLE!!!
RUF DID NOT START THE MAIMING OF OUR PEOPLE!!!
RUF DID NOT START THE MAIMING OF OUR PEOPLE!!!
From: Please Stop Talking MORE Nonsense
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Date Posted: 13:06:31 02/23/07 ()
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A word of advice -- please do not use more than one line to state your lies. It will not turn them into truths. But, ewven though you do not know it (that retarded thing, again), it will turn your readers even more against you.
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 13:54:46 02/23/07 ()
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You call my belief a lie. May God have mercy upon youi. The truth will someday set you free. I trade no insults with you. i will forget about you now unless you promise to bring a fresh question to me.
From: FARRAH MARRAH
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Date Posted: 11:29:01 02/23/07 ()
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Please Stop Talking MORE Nonsense'
From: Please Stop Talking YET More Nonsense
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Date Posted: 11:49:37 02/23/07 ()
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"TRUTH and I are two different individuals."
From: Truth
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You still believe Truth is farrah marrah - please call me on my private line on 0044 870 7652 224 02 0044 870 7650 924. I habitual residence is the UK. This is the place words and their usage are coined everyday.
From: Stop Talking YET More Nonsense.
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Date Posted: 12:00:40 02/23/07 ()
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No, thank you -- I don't spend my hard earned money on rebels who butchered my people.
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 12:06:39 02/23/07 ()
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Do you now want to hunt me for speaking my mind. My name is Hassan Wansa and I live at 33 Irish Town, Isle of Wight. i cannot give you my DOB or ID number - not because I do not trust you but I will not want my ID misused.
From: FARRAH MARRAH
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Date Posted: 13:07:19 02/23/07 ()
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Stop Talking YET More Nonsense,
With all your RANTING AND RAVING, Mr. Hassan Wansa has revealed his true identity that he is not FARRAH MARRAH.
We do not have a monopoly over RIGHTEOUSNESS but we have SOME MONOPOLY OVER TRUTH AND JUSTICE.
The Supreme Court led by the Chief Justice Livesey Luke refused the appeal of Dr. Forna, Ibrahim Taqi, Bai Mkari N'Silk, Lieutenant Habib Lansana Kamara et al, because they (the former) were part of the cabal to EXECUTE MY PEOPLE. They (Dr. Forna and co) were also prevented from performing basic sanitational exercises such as bathing and using toilet tissue after excreting.
Every LIMB of Bridier John Amadu Bangura's body was broken before he was executed; Nancy Steele, Siaka Stevens' MISTRESS, urinated on his head referring to him as a "KONTRI MAN" before acid was poured over his and the bodies of Majors Jawara and S.E. Momoh and Lieutenant Kolugbondah.
They murdered Sam Bangura, then Governor of the Bank of Sierra Leone, not only because of disagreement over the use of funds to host the OAU in 1980, but for dismissing Bockarie Kargbo (BK) the younger brother of Edward Kargbo, and he (Sam Bangura) was also a threat to Stevens--if the THEMNES had revolted they had a leader.
If Foday Saybana Sankoh, who served six years for the John Bangura coup--which Sylvia Blyden (she should be congnizant since her GRANDFATHER S.A.J. Pratt was instrumental in converting SL to a Republic before their execution, because had it being under the auspices of the Queen, she had the authority to pardon Bangura and the other officers) had referred to in one of her postings as a "Temne Coup"--we had the IRREFUTABLE RIGHT to support his cause.
From: Stop Talking YET More Nonsense,
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Date Posted: 17:32:33 02/23/07 ()
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William Bangura:
From: Stop Talking YET More Nonsense
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Remember, it was YOU -- not me -- who offered to authenticaticate his/her identity. So, where do you come from asking a question that makes no sense -- "Do you now want to hunt me for speaking my mind?. "
From: FARRAH MARRAH
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Date Posted: 13:43:45 02/23/07 ()
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TRUTH,
From: STOP TALKING TO YOURSELF
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TRUTH, Please do not respond to "Stop Talking YET More Nonsense".They will all LOSE THIS DEBATE. -- Wiliam Bangura
From: Look Who's Talking
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Date Posted: 06:51:48 02/23/07 ()
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"After reading through this gibberish, I am left wondering: are the APC fully aware of their disastrous record?"
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 15:29:12 02/24/07 ()
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You guus have succeeded in making a mockery of a nice post by KNICE, and one that I really wanted to get a bite out of. But anyway fight on if it makes you feel better.
From: FUNNY
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Date Posted: 05:29:31 02/23/07 ()
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FUNNY HOW JUST A MERE TWO WEEKS AFTER HE DECLARED FOR THE PMDC, HE DIES OF A HEART FAILURE. HMMM.
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WHO DID? PMDC since they are more likely to gain from his death? OR They so called kamajor supporters in the diaspora...knowing that the man was going to start naming names......tell we udat pass am off?
From: Funny Teacher
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Date Posted: 09:19:17 02/23/07 ()
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"...knowing that the man was going to start naming names......"
From: WITNESS
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knowing that the man was going to start naming names......Curious
From: Prize
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Date Posted: 04:50:34 02/23/07 ()
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I expect Sierra Leoneans to win this competition because their leaders are overly corrupt!
International Essay Competition 2007
The World Bank invites you to participate in the International Essay Competition 2007. AEGEE is one of the partners of World Bank in Essay Competition 2007. Main topic of this year's competition is Corruption: 1) How does corruption affect your life? 2) What can you do to fight the corruption that you face? [more]
From: Joke
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Date Posted: 05:20:09 02/23/07 ()
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For the World Bank to invite people to write an essay on corruption is like the ghost inviting the shroud to write an essay on being white.
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 00:15:56 02/23/07 ()
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America Face the Truth About 9/11? Part II
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 08:46:18 02/23/07 ()
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A clip worth looking at
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Will America Face the Truth About 9/11? Part I
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Date Posted: 08:50:58 02/23/07 ()
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http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/petition/
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Date Posted: 23:57:09 02/22/07 ()
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An accident waiting to happen
By Linda S. Heard
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Feb 22, 2007, 00:48
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From: KNICE
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Date Posted: 18:16:25 02/22/07 ()
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It can be argued that he saved Sierra Leone. When the RUF and their Liberian benefactors invaded in the early 90's, our then soldier president ignored the matter altogether. It was a local matter was his rationale so early in the debacle when perhaps it could have been contained. Three other soldier heads of state followed with equal ineffectiveness. Under Strasser and Bio the troops who were sworn to defend us morphed into Sobels to torment us. Under Johnny Paul they formed an unholy alliance with the very RUFians who had invaded from Liberia.
From: FOD CHAIN
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Date Posted: 05:00:18 02/23/07 ()
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I have not been able to eat since I heard the sad news.
From: Bashiru kanneh
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Date Posted: 17:39:10 02/23/07 ()
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Normah Death is big blow to all sierra leonean.innocent man die with reasons.
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 08:40:03 02/23/07 ()
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Your comments are really inappropriate.
It is just uncalled for.
Please have a sense of decency, if nothing else
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Date Posted: 17:41:17 02/23/07 ()
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did they have a sense of decency when they killed and ate my brother, raped and killed my sister. man you better Forkoff
From: Independent Man
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Date Posted: 19:18:47 02/24/07 ()
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No CDF member ate your brother, and none of them raped your sister. Stop msaking a bloody fool of yourself.
From: FOD CHAIN
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Date Posted: 20:50:35 02/24/07 ()
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stupid I didnt say CDF I said kamajor
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Date Posted: 12:31:40 02/25/07 ()
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Allieu Iscandri,stop this nonsense.
From: Knice
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Date Posted: 10:23:17 02/27/07 ()
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I know Alieu. We frequently disagree on issues. But Alieu will not stoop this low. Besides Alieu does not hide from his posts. I can assure you my friend, this post is not by Alieu Iscandri.
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 09:54:35 02/26/07 ()
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I really would appreciate it if you do not mention my name with regards to any distasteful posts. I know that you may have done a post like this under other circumstances but not I. Its all a matter of style and class. Please see my post above with regards to the dismissal of all actions and cgharges against Norman.
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Eloquently beautiful. Good job!
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Upside of diamond 'conflict'
WORLD BRIEFINGS
By Sylvia Pfeifer
LONDON SUNDAY TELEGRAPH
February 22, 2007
LONDON -- The $60.5-billion-per-year diamond industry has welcomed a plan to halt the illegal "conflict trade" whose profits fund rebel groups in Africa's civil wars. Sierra Leone's turnaround is one example.
Five years after the end of Sierra Leone's decade-long civil war, the eastern mining town of Koidu still bears the scars of conflict. Many of the roads leading from the town in the country's eastern province turn into dirt tracks, no streetlights can be found, and most of the buildings have seen better days.
Despite the obvious lack of modern infrastructure, there is a buzz. The two hotels in town have regular business, and a branch of the bank in Freetown, the country's capital, has opened its doors for the first time. Built on rich, alluvial diamond fields, Koidu again has become the center of the country's diamond industry, and is attracting explorers from all over the world.
It was a different scene a decade ago. During the late 1990s, the country's vast diamond wealth became synonymous with the trade in "conflict diamonds." The Hollywood blockbuster "Blood Diamond," which opened in December, is set against the chaos of the civil war in Sierra Leone.
The film tells the story of Danny Archer, played by Leonardo DiCaprio, an ex-mercenary from Zimbabwe who is on the trail of a rare pink diamond. Although the film has provoked questions about how much illegal trading continues, far from dampening diamond sales, it has given the industry an opportunity to emphasize changes that have taken place.
During an interview late last year, Jonathan Oppenheimer, a director De Beers group, which controls 40 percent of the diamond trade, said the film was not a negative development.
"The movie has been -- let's be blunt -- a kick in the backside to get our act together, and I see it as a great opportunity to put out the facts and have people debate and apply them."
At the Golden Globes award ceremony last month, for example, Beyonce Knowles and Jennifer Lopez turned up brandishing their diamond jewelry for the cameras. The stars are part of a multimillion-dollar marketing campaign by the industry titled "Raise Your Right Hand." They agreed to wear diamond rings on their right hands in return for a promise from the industry of $10,000 each to the African charity of their choice.
Conflict-free status
Away from the red carpet, the industry deserves credit for cleaning up its act. The conflict in Sierra Leone triggered what has become known as "the Kimberley Process Certification," backed by the United Nations. Formally adopted four years ago, it requires participating governments to ensure that each shipment of rough diamonds be shipped in a secure container and accompanied by a government-validated certificate.
Meanwhile, De Beers stopped all outside buying of diamonds in 1999 to guarantee the conflict-free status of De Beers diamonds.
Since signing on to the Kimberley Process in 2003, Sierra Leone's revenue from diamonds has soared: It exported about $142 million worth of diamonds in 2005.
Reason for enthusiasm
James Campbell is one of the Western investors betting on the country's diamond industry. The deputy chairman of West African Diamonds, a mining and exploration company newly listed last month on London's Alternative Investment Market -- the London Stock Exchange's global market for small, growing companies -
Upon his safe return to London, Mr. Campbell said that before he got there, he had visions of being bundled into a car on arrival and never stepping outside.
The reality, he said, was different. Although the country is war-ravaged, he never felt threatened and even went running every morning -- something he never does in South Africa, where he lives.
The company operates from a house in the center of Koidu and intends to employ up to 60 people when it gets up and running.
"I came back feeling more enthusiastic than before," said Mr. Campbell. "The country is desperate for development."
Formerly at De Beers, where he helped set up the Kimberley Process, Mr. Campbell said any diamonds from West African Diamonds' mines will go through the same process. The company also will comply with national legislation. He acknowledged that freelance digging is rife but argues that dramatic improvements have been made in recent years.
"In terms of volume and value [the problem of conflict diamonds] is tiny. Look at other industries like copper and gold -- I would imagine it would be more," he said.
'Used for good'
Supporters of the industry say the issue of conflict diamonds overshadows the benefits diamond mining brings to the countries in which it is active. The World Diamond Council (WDC) reports that an estimated 10 million people are directly or indirectly supported by the world diamond industry.
Eli Izhakoff, WDC chairman, said the industry has been a force for good in countries such as South Africa and Botswana.
Despite the watchful eye of the WDC and the rigor of the Kimberley Process, critics say loopholes still exist. Conflict diamonds still come from rebel-held areas of Ivory Coast, skirting a U.N. embargo there, and are smuggled through Ghana or Mali. According to the United Nations, the value of these conflict diamonds is about $23 million.
Uncontrolled sources
Perhaps an even bigger challenge is how to control the diamond sector not controlled by the mining industry. Most formal mining is of kimberlites, "pipes" containing diamonds hidden beneath ancient volcanoes. They make for vertical hard-rock mines, are most often found in southern Africa and require large investments of capital and expertise.
Said Ms. Warhurst: "Poverty needs to be addressed. Countries like Sierra Leone, need investment. It needs formal, legal, responsible investment."
Linah Mohohlo, governor of the Bank of Botswana, insists that "tremendous success has already been achieved."
From: Observer
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Date Posted: 14:20:15 02/22/07 ()
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With developments leading to Hinga Norman's death while in international custody, it seems more certain than ever that Kabbah will be roped to the same special court he sent Hingo when his term ends in June.
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 14:23:01 02/22/07 ()
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I can see Kabbah going to the SC but the PMDC or APC will not win the elections. i can bet my life on that.
From: kroobaymom
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Date Posted: 14:33:06 02/22/07 ()
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Kabbah will also have to answer for the sandline bombs that killed thousands of our people in kroobay and Kanike.
From: Observer
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Date Posted: 15:13:56 02/22/07 ()
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I'm not a partisan of any kind. What I wrote represent a forecast of what's going to happen.
From: What?
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Date Posted: 15:16:53 02/22/07 ()
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What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?
From: Observer
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Date Posted: 16:20:08 02/22/07 ()
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One has to sound like a Nahim case to see the reality but come June and you'll see.
From: STEPHEN SWARAY
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Date Posted: 17:33:16 02/22/07 ()
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For the sake of humanity,can we please give some time to the late Mr Norman's family to come to terms with this tragic event? THANKS.
From: suratul kaffirun
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Date Posted: 05:11:13 02/23/07 ()
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the victims of kamajor and norman atrocities came to terms with their losses the same day they lost their loved ones and they were not cannibals. unu gee we a break ya. de kuffar don peg.
From: kroobaymom
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Date Posted: 13:58:49 02/22/07 ()
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The UK Department for International Development (DFID), says it will give Le21 billion (Ł4.2 million) to the Guma Valley Water Company (GVWC) towards the supply of safe drinking water in Freetown.
From: Knice
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Date Posted: 05:37:02 02/23/07 ()
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Would the money have been safer in an APC government's hands?
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Date Posted: 14:14:10 02/22/07 ()
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IMF sees encouraging growth in Sierra Leone
Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:33 AM GMT
From: kroobaymom
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Date Posted: 14:28:26 02/22/07 ()
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DFID has seen past the organized and ochestrated NASCA project site visits and are cautiously guarding British tax payer's money. The IMF and the World Bank see Sierra leone as an experiment to justify their fact pay checks. That is why they continue to sing Kabbah's praises. Nar prospect man dem go eat?? Sugar for me garri sef don dear.
From: FINANCE OFFICER
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Date Posted: 16:14:02 02/22/07 ()
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If the IMF and WB are so bad, then why will you jubilate when DFIdD allegedly gives them their money?(Although the Christian monitor newspaper's article is ubtrue)?I do not see the logic behind your jubilation. Why will you be so happy for DFID to give their money to WB, when you yourself has said the WB is not trustworthy? You see what politics does to your thinkig process?
From: YES
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Date Posted: 14:42:06 02/22/07 ()
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Dummy.,
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 14:48:03 02/22/07 ()
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Kroobay is not a fool. He asks and speaks sensibly. Why does DFID have to pay consultants. Simply because the HR on the ground comprising of SLeoneans are rotten and corrupt. Simple my brother/sister - they are corrupt. They have to pay for credible HR personnell to make ends meet.
From: NO REBEL
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Date Posted: 14:53:17 02/22/07 ()
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NO REBELS ALLOWED. GO BACK TO THE BUSH
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 14:57:14 02/22/07 ()
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My brother/sister I am no rebel. i am a SLeonean in psin. I want to see my country as a better place to be and live. i cry everyday for the ills committed by the socalled stupid administrators who do not see beyong 'quick money'.
From: Dummy
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Date Posted: 14:34:17 02/22/07 ()
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fact pay checks???????/ay you dummy.
From: Truth
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Date Posted: 11:39:26 02/22/07 ()
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But by making the darkness conscious. Today marks a day of remembrance. A learn to learn from the sudden prejudicial death of a once acclaimed fallen hero. Hinga died to protect what he bvelieved in and not what the nation believed. he was taken to the slaughtershouse by the people he so fought for. they left him to die in the hands of the oppressor. the hidden hand of the oppressor continues in our midst and more will have to go the way Hinga has gone.
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Date Posted: 10:45:27 02/22/07 ()
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With the sad news of Pa Norman's passing, the SLPP has now lost the South and East to Charles Margai, and with that, they have lost the presidency.
It is irrelevant that Charles also voted for the Special Court. As far as the people are concerned, Charles started opposing the court the day Norman was arrested. I don't recall Kabbah and Berewa doing likewise. Besides they (Kabbah and Berewa) never openly supported Hinga Norman in his predicament.
There is therefore going to be a strong movement of SLPP faithfuls to PMDC and Charles Margai.
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Date Posted: 13:28:51 02/22/07 ()
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"When you dig a pit, don't dig one always dig two" Joseph Hills, culture.
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Date Posted: 14:53:24 02/22/07 ()
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Slpp wu NORMA WARGA aaa nar Gbaleh nya ma.
yeliba yeliba KARFIR YEI tar Gbaleh MU MA.
yeliba yeliba KARFIR YEI tar Gbaleh MU MA.
yeliba yeliba KARFIR YEI tar gbaleh MU MA
yeliba yeliba KARFIR YEI tar gbaleh MU MA.
yeliba yeliba KARFIR YEI tar gbaleh MU MA.
KARFIR YEI KARFIR YEI NYADAE YO FAR KPA GUI MU MA.
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Date Posted: 12:52:25 02/22/07 ()
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Its natural anyway but nevermind those who belive have there rights to go to PMDC They were already gone by the way even if he was alive.My sympathy to all of us.
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Date Posted: 11:50:36 02/22/07 ()
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What a blunder by the Sierra Leone Government and thier international accomplices!Our Bai-Bureh of modern times, the war hero who stood up against the RUF,sold into captivity by our selfish politicians has died.When folks started commenting on this suspicious move to transfer the chief to Senegal, I initially thought such remarks by Moijui and others were simply political but now I'm scared. These people know what they were talking about.SLPP is in a big mess right now and they know it. I wish the family could decline any form of autopsy.By all indications, we have the right to suspect foul play and I just hope they don't show up at the chief's funeral service. God be with this family.
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Date Posted: 09:03:44 02/22/07 ()
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Sierra Leone war crimes indictee Hinga Norman dies
Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:20AM EST
The indictment against Hinga Norman and two CDF co-defendants said members of the militia practiced human sacrifice and cannibalism during Sierra Leone's war, a brutal conflict in which rebel fighters chopped off civilians' limbs.
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Date Posted: 09:16:50 02/22/07 ()
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He did not live in vain.
May his soul rest in perfect peace.
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Date Posted: 08:56:03 02/22/07 ()
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Press and Public Affairs Office
Special Court Indictee Sam Hinga Norman Dies in Dakar
It is with deep regret that the Special Court for Sierra Leone announces the death of former Sierra Leone Internal Affairs Minister Sam Hinga Norman, who was on trial before the Special Court for Sierra Leone. Mr. Norman died today at a military hospital in Dakar, Senegal.
Initial indications are that Mr. Norman suffered heart failure during post-operative care. Registrar Lovemore Munlo, SC has ordered an independent investigation by international medical experts to determine the exact cause of death.
Mr. Norman had been charged with 8 counts of war crimes and crimes against humanity stemming from acts allegedly carried out by the Civil Defence Militia he headed during Sierra Leone’s decade-long civil conflict. He had maintained his innocence throughout the trial, which began in June 2004.
A verdict in the case is pending before the Trial Chamber..
From: Not Special Court
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Date Posted: 09:48:47 02/22/07 ()
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Shame on Special Court
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Date Posted: 09:08:51 02/22/07 ()
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This is very sad news indeed.
The opposition in Sa. Lone (especially PMDC) is going to use it to hit SLPP. I sense a tuning of the tide in the South East towards Margai. He might just end up winning the presidency......
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Date Posted: 08:59:55 02/23/07 ()
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Its a mistake for any citizen to build up on this.He would have died even been a PMDC member.
From: GOD DAE
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Date Posted: 09:45:25 02/22/07 ()
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Tejan Kabbah and Solomon Berewa will pay a high price for Norman's suffering and death. First they will suffer on earth. then in hell.
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 08:57:39 02/23/07 ()
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How really can you justify this?Did they kill him or ask special court to arrest him? Do you suggest that they would asked the court to close because he was arrested?Becareful and dont be too much of a politician.
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Now that Norman is dead, I am sure Kabbah will be more than willing to testify in court.
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