Subject: MEDICO-LEGAL QUESTIONS (Inviting Lawyers to the Podium)
From: Charles Curtis-Thomas, RN,MD(Hons.), MPH
To: All
Date Posted: 16:51:20 10/30/06 ()
Email Address: rnmdtwo@yahoo.com
Entered From: 129-2-19-47.umd.edu at 129.2.19.47
Message:
As we migrate from developing to developed countries, we inevitably bring with us some of our customs, traditions, beliefs, etc. Some of these are not tolerated by the developed countries, some of these cast "we darkey" in a bad light and give "wateman"the license to label us as primitive. In fact some of these cause INTRARACIAL division. Did I hear you say: "bra, get to the point nor, mercy?"
OKAY, OKAY , TO THE POINT I GO: This medico-legal question has to do with (no, you guessed it wrong!)FEMALE CIRCUMCISION AND MINOR FEMALE CHILDREN. If an African immigrant in the USA has a minor female who is 14 years old and was born in the USA, and takes this female to Africa and the female is circumcised even though the female is against it:
(1) Can the female sue or otherwise file charges against her parents in the USA for assault and battery ?
(2) Since the crime was committed in Salone, does the US courts, and by extension the Justice system have "JURISDICTION" to hear and try this case?
(3)Can the child protection service step in because of cruelty to children ?
The aforementioned questions were precipitated by an article that I read. FOLLOWING IS THE ARTICLE:
"The trial of an Atlanta-area man accused of circumcising his 2-year old daughter with scissors is focusing attention on an ancient African practice that experts say is slowly becoming more common in the USA as immigrant communities grow".
"Khalid Adem, a 30 year old immigrant from Ethiopia, is charged with aggravated battery and cruelty to children. Human rights observers said they believe this is the first criminal case in the USA involving this 5,000 year old practice. Prosecutors say Mr Adem used scissors to remove his daughter's clitoris in their apartment in 2001. The child's mother said that she did not discover it until a year later. 'He said that he wanted to preserve her virginity' the child's mother testified'...". (The Washingto Times, Saturday, October 28, 2006)
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU LAWYERS OUT THERE. I would appreciate hearing from Alieu Iscandrai, Esq. and Rev. Wilfred Leeroy Kabs-Kanu, MA, Esq., ET. AL.
Subject: heheheheheheheheheheheheheheheehehe
From: CHIEFDOM CLASS- SIX STUDENT
To: All
Date Posted: 15:04:36 10/30/06 ()
Email Address: rnmdtwo@yahoo.com
Entered From: 129-2-19-47.umd.edu at 129.2.19.47
Message:
This has to stop. Asking a SELF-STYLED tenured college professor LIKE YOU, EDMUND KOKER who ALLEGES THAT HE has published extensively in scientific journals about GCE 'O' level exams makes ABSOLUTE sense WHEN THE SELF-STYLED PROFESSOR DEMONSTRATES AN INABILITY TO CORRECTLY CONSTRUCT A SIMPLE SENTENCE IN EGLISH, ESPECIALLY WHEN 'O' levels are for 17 and 18 year olds in West Africa
Subject: PROFESSOR "RADIO MELANCHOLY" IS BEING DISGRACED" !
From: Dr. CHARLES CURTIS-THOMAS
To: All
Date Posted: 14:12:02 10/30/06 ()
Email Address: rnmdtwo@yahoo.com
Entered From: 129-2-19-47.umd.edu at 129.2.19.47
Message:
Posted by FORUM MORALITY on October 29, 2006 at 09:05:10:
"EDMUND KOKER, we are appealing to you to stop your LONGSTANDING habit of using different monikers to harass other forumites.
Our investigations have found that you have used monikers like SENGBE, CONTEH, KAMARA, NANCY JUSU, INVESTIGATOR, SIAKA STEVENS, PREDATOR, tc., to ABUSE, DEFAME, BAIT, DISCRIMINATE, AND OTHERWISE harass ALIEU ISCANDRI, DR. CHARLES CURTIS THOMAS, MOHAMED JALLOH, ALLIE FORMEH KAMARA, ALLIE RAINBOW, and most contributors here who have exposed your RUDENESS, CRUDITY, INCURABLE TRIBALISTIC TENDENCIES, AND INFERIORITY COMPLEX.
This has to stop. Asking a SELF-STYLED tenured college professor LIKE YOU, EDMUND KOKER who ALLEGES THAT HE has published extensively in scientific journals about GCE 'O' level exams makes ABSOLUTE sense WHEN THE SELF-STYLED PROFESSOR DEMONSTRATES AN INABILITY TO CORRECTLY CONSTRUCT A SIMPLE SENTENCE IN EGLISH, ESPECIALLY WHEN 'O' levels are for 17 and 18 year olds in West Africa.
"FORUM INTELLEGENCE" where was your "intelligence" when your rude, crude, tribalistic protege, EDMUND KOKER, was abusing other forumites here and hurling tribalistic slurs at them?
Or is that what YOU, like Koker, regard as "valuable contributions to this form?"
Subject: DON'T LET IDENTITY THIEVES " WAAS YOU FACE GO UP" ! (PART 1)
From: Charles Curtis-Thomas, RN, MD (Hons.),MPH
To: All
Date Posted: 13:26:43 10/30/06 ()
Email Address: rnmdtwo@yahoo.com
Entered From: 129-2-19-47.umd.edu at 129.2.19.47
Message:
In our "rat race and dog eat dog world", there are a lot of people out there waiting for the smallest opportunity to rip you off. No part of the globe is free of such elements...from Salone to The USA...from Hell to heaven, if you will,You will find these people. They will steal your identity and "live" like you, in other words, you have a twin that you do not know of. No one, other then God, knows the exact figure of identity thieves out there. The inception of the internet, has made this multi billion dollars industry attractive to many.
Life, especially in the diaspora, can be very busy indeed, leaving us very little time to think straight. In the course of a busy day, you can write a check at the grocery store, charge tickets to ride the "spirit of Washington" on a nice Sunday afternoon, rent a car, mail your tax returns, change your service providers for your cell phone, or apply for a credit card. Chances are you do not give these every day transactions a second thought...BUT IDENTITY THIEF DOES!
DID I HEAR YOU ASK, "what is an identity thief?"
"Identity theft" takes place when someone "KNOWINGLY TRANSFERS, POSSESSES OR USES, WITHOUT LAWFUL AUTHORITY, A MEANS OF IDENTIFICATION OF ANOTHER PERSON WITH THE INTENT TO COMMIT, OR TO AID OR ABET, OR IN CONNECTION WITH, ANY UNLAWFUL ACTIVITY THAT CONSTITUTES A VIOLATION OF LAW... Under this definition, a name or social security number is considered a "means of identification". So is a credit card number, cellular telephone electronic serial number, or any other piece of information that may be used alone or in conjunction with other information to identify a specific individual.
Identity theft is a serious crime. People whose identities have been stolen can spend months or years...and thousands of dollars trying to clean up the mess the thieves have made of a good name and credit record. In the meantime, victims of identity tiff may lose job opportunities, be refused loans for education, housing, or cars, and even get arrested for crimes they did not commit. Humiliation, anger, and frustration are among the feelings victims experience as they navigate the process of rescuing their identity. Despite your best efforts to manage the flow of your personal information or to keep it to yourself, skilled identity tiff may use a variety of methods to gain access to your datum or data.
You are now In your perplexed state of mind...did I hear you ask, "how do these identity tiff get my information?"
They get information from businesses or other institutions by:
---stealing records or information while they are on the job.
---bribing an employee who has access to your records.
---Breaking into these records by means of an "internet spy".
---conning information out of employees
---they may steal your mail, including bank and credit card statements, credit card offers, new checks, and tax information.
---they may rummage through your trash, the trash of businesses, or public trash dumps in a practice known as "DUMPSTER DIVING."
---They may get your credit reports by abusing their employer's authorized access to them, or by posing as a landlord, employer, or someone else who may have a legal to access your report.
---they may steal your credit or debit card numbers by capturing the information in a "data storage device" in a practice known as "SKIMMING". They may swipe your credit card for an actual purchase, or attach the device to an AUTOMATED TELLER MACHINE (ATM) where you may enter or swipe your card.
---they may steal your wallet or purse.
---they may steal personal information from you through EMAIL OR PHONE by posing as ligitimate companies and claiming that you have a problem with your your account. This practice is known as "PHISHING" (pronounced FISHING) online or "PRETEXTING" by phone.
Realizing now that you are sweating and shaking uncontrollably and thinking about that money you stole from the people of Salone and "salted" in a Swiss Bank, I can hear some of you breatklessly asking, "HOW DOES IDENTITY THIEVES USE MY PERSONAL INFORMATION?"
---they may call your credit card issuer to change the billing address on your credit card account. The imposter then runs up charges on your on your credit card account. Because your bills are NOW being sent to a different address, it may be sometime before you realize there is a problem...many times it may be toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo late to shout "GOD SAVE THE QUEEN".
---They may open new credit card accounts in your name. When they use the credit cards and don't pay the bills, the delinquent accounts are reported ON YOUR CREDIT REPORT!
---They may establish phone or wireless service in your name.
---they may open a bank account in your name and WRITE BAD CHECKS ON THAT ACCOUNT!
---they may counterfeit checks or credit or debit cards, or authorize electronic transfers in your name, and DRAIN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT!
---they may file for bankruptcy under your name to avoid paying debts they have incurred UNDER YOUR NAME, or to avoid eviction!
---they may buy a car by taking out an auto loan IN YOUR NAME!
---They may get identification such as a driver's license issued with THEIR PICTURE,IN YOUR NAME. The sad thing here is that they may get involve in an accident, and flee the scene of the accident. You might be home one nice Sunday morning getting ready for church and softly singing "amazing grace how sweet thou art" while you hungryly await your " big okaylay foofoo wit eat-broke-plate as it turns around in the microwave. And before you could remove your breakfast from the microwave, there will be a knock on your door by the Police AND YOU WILL BE TAKEN AWAY FOR (falsely) FLEEING THE SCENE OF AN ACCIDENT. No, you will not be allowed to touch "you foo-foo and you eat-broke-plate"!
---they may get a job or file fraudulent tax returns in your name.
---OH...they may give your name to the police during an arrest. If they do not show up for their court date (... and would you blame them for not showing up?), a warrant for ARREST IS ISSUED IN YOUR NAME!
.............................STAY TUNED, FOLKS, FOR PART 2 where we will continue with "what to do if your personal information is stolen or lost".
Subject: THE CHIEF RETURNS TO CHAOS ON THE FORUM
From: CHIEF IN EXILE
To: All
Date Posted: 11:13:01 10/30/06 ()
Email Address: rnmdtwo@yahoo.com
Entered From: 129-2-19-47.umd.edu at 129.2.19.47
Message:
WAZZUP Y'ALL ? SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN AT WAR IN MY ABSENCE. I applaud the Rev. Kabs-Kanu and the Moderator for instituting a "safety sign-up process".
CAN SOMEONE STOP THE WAR, OR SHOULD THE CHIEF BEGIN TO "ENRICH HIS URANIUM AND BEGIN TO SERVICE HIS NUCLEAR REACTORS? "
Subject: THE GOOD REV KABS PLEASE DO SOMETHING.
From: CADMUS
To: All
Date Posted: 10:50:25 10/30/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 82.198.250.80
Message:
I come on this Forum hoping to educate people about the good and successess of the SLPP.I do my best to avoid name calling, but I am never shy to praise SLPP or Solo B.This is what most SLPP supporters do on this Forum.
There are people hellbent on mischief making. They never say anything constructive.All they do is insult and abuse people. I believe that this is a very bad example that is being set on this forum.
I am aware that the APC may not have a lot of policy to shout about, but that is their fault,it does not, therefore mean that Alieu Iscandri should dominate this forum with insults and abuses just because people belong to other political parties or other tribes in Sierra Leone.I thought we have passed that stage.
Alieu seem to be obssessed with SENGBE...I am still wondering why.Sengbe is an active SLPP supporter,but he has demonstrated that he is Sierra leonean first and a gentleman.I must be missing something, but I have never read any posting on this forum why Sengbe has ranted on about tribes or the superiority of the Mende Tribes for that matter. There seem to be a fixation about tribe from Alie on this forum.Why is that?
Sengbe tries to avoid this confrontation, but Alieu will have none of it.I do not want to get involved in this, but I am sick and tired of reading trash from Alieu either under his name or under some handle.
I know you are a learned friend within our noble profession,Alieu, so please try to behave as such. If you continue in this vein, you will dicredit yourself for ever in the eyes of Sierra Leoneans.
There are many good examples on this forum you can follow,Moinina, and Moijue of the PMDC,for example, these people always try to argue what little policy the PMDC may have, I enjoy reading what they have to say. I would like to hear what the APC has to say so I can answer back...I am however tired of you attacking Sengbe with all sorts of different handles .we should be educating each other on this forum.Insults, abuses, (mamie COSS) are not helping.
To the Good Rev, I believe it is time you put a stop to this nonsense.You can do.
Make this forum what it should be...fun for Sierra Leoneans to visit and learn.
Subject: sounds like CADMUS is bias, can his testimony be thrown out,
From: CHIEF IN EXILE
To: All
Date Posted: 14:02:15 10/30/06 ()
Email Address: rnmdtwo@yahoo.com
Entered From: 129-2-19-47.umd.edu at 129.2.19.47
Message:
In his testimony against Alieu Iscandari,Esq., CADMUS is biased against Lawyer Iscandrai. In his testimony, CADMUS only focused on the "here and now" and totally left out the "there and then". The "there and then" is the gist of Lawyer Iscandari's "beef".
Because of the above, I am confident that Rev. Wilfred Leeroy Kabs-Kanu, MA., ESQ. will charge CADMUS with the crime of "SELECTIVE AMNESIA" and throw out his meritless charge against my Learned colleague in the Noble Profession.
TO "AHBGA" ALIEU ISCANDARI,Esq., THE MESSAGE IS "dear-dear, OH ahgba"!
Subject: Hi Alieu! I love you too my brother
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 08:56:27 10/30/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.85.59.94
Message:
I came back to the forum this morning to read the usual stuff from my nemesis. I guess he knows himself. He reposted my initial posting on my return thinking that there was blatant antagonism toward him and his comrades; Quack and Woroke - my nickname for the other nemeses of mine on this forum. Anyway, as all of you sane folks can readily see in reading that article,I appealed for love, peace, and harmony amongst all Sa Lonians at home and in the diaspora. I even suggested the way this could be done in that proposal of mine. Did anyone of them follow through on that suggestion? No! they hurled insults / abuses at me, my parents, and mentioned my "inferiority complex". I fought back as nicely as I usually do in the spirit of my ancestors.
Now tell me forumites, based on the antagonistic records of these individuals toward my ethnicity, my political affiliation; their antagonism toward the truthfulness in my postings (since 1997 in cyberdom); their condescending attitudes toward most folks, in general, on this forum; their rudeness in terms of expatiating mammy cuss (excepting the Jaramah Woroke in this case); their "educational" hubris, that is so misplaced and misguided considering the fact that this is a discussion forum, for the discussion of affairs that should pertain to, and for the benefit of our mother country; must I sit by idly and not respond? You see when you fight fire with fire the one that has the can of gasoline in his hand is taken to be the arsonist.
Alieu has ALWAYS been the ARSONIST in these matters, and everyone knows this. The other two "johnny-come latelys" - Quack and Woroke - are just following in his footsteps because they adore him, I guess. Anyway, for sanity to preavail on this forum always, I pledge to refrain from responding to any of them no matter the provocation. I will strive to maintain decency and professionalism always.
This does not mean that my Brothers and Sisters who feel strongly about retaliating against the rudeness / obscenities emanating from these three people against decent folks are bound by my pledge.
If dem nor fet me, dem go fet orda porsin, but me yone fet with dem don don.
To these "brothers" I am offering the olive branch (provided they reciprocate on the offer), and telling them that "I love them too" as I have expressed my love for ALL my fellow Salonblia.
Let there be PEACE, LOVE, and HARMONY amongst us as Sa Lonians - ALWAYS.
I thank you and God bless.
Subject: S.Tunis
From: Oh GOOD SIERRA LEONE
To: All
Date Posted: 08:40:08 10/30/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 146.95.94.145
Message:
Gone are the days when we expect our older brothers the clear the path for us.
Gone are the days, when tolerance prevailed
Gone are the days when two brothers will disagree and continue to be brothers...
Was there ever that day?
I am too young...to know...cause all I see is fighting and fighting...
My country is lost...The younger brothers/generation cannot copy from the older one, for they(older)have nothing good to show.
At the start of the Cocorioko...it was all about ideas and ideas...now it is nothing but the same old way.."fight fight..so rebel so rebel trick".
Kabs Kay, FOR GOD SAKE KEEP THIS FURUM OPEN>>LET THEM BIG MAN DEEN GO DE DISGRACE THEMSELVES>>>>
Man...you guys failed us and continue to destroy...please please mister 'quck to vex'or mister 'no idea lef salone...let salone grow.
Thank you...big brother...continue for
Subject: appeal to professor edmund koker of elizabeth state universi
From: Posted by FORUM MORALITY on October 29, 2006 at 09:05:10:
To: All
Date Posted: 06:46:15 10/30/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Posted by FORUM MORALITY on October 29, 2006 at 09:05:10:
"EDMUND KOKER, we are appealing to you to stop your LONGSTANDING habit of using different monikers to harass other forumites.
Our investigations have found that you have used monikers like SENGBE, CONTEH, KAMARA, NANCY JUSU, INVESTIGATOR, SIAKA STEVENS, PREDATOR, tc., to ABUSE, DEFAME, BAIT, DISCRIMINATE, AND OTHERWISE harass ALIEU ISCANDRI, DR. CHARLES CURTIS THOMAS, MOHAMED JALLOH, ALLIE FORMEH KAMARA, ALLIE RAINBOW, and most contributors here who have exposed your RUDENESS, CRUDITY, INCURABLE TRIBALISTIC TENDENCIES, AND INFERIORITY COMPLEX.
This has to stop. Asking a SELF-STYLED tenured college professor LIKE YOU, EDMUND KOKER who ALLEGES THAT HE has published extensively in scientific journals about GCE 'O' level exams makes ABSOLUTE sense WHEN THE SELF-STYLED PROFESSOR DEMONSTRATES AN INABILITY TO CORRECTLY CONSTRUCT A SIMPLE SENTENCE IN EGLISH, ESPECIALLY WHEN 'O' levels are for 17 and 18 year olds in West Africa.
"FORUM INTELLEGENCE" where was your "intelligence" when your rude, crude, tribalistic protege, EDMUND KOKER, was abusing other forumites here and hurling tribalistic slurs at them?
Or is that what YOU, like Koker, regard as "valuable contributions to this form?"
Subject: Re: ANOTHER OF THE BASTARD CHILDS POSTINGS
From: M. Alieu Iscandari esq
To: All
Date Posted: 08:32:27 10/30/06 ()
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Subject: Re: TWO QUESTIONS FOR "SAHR T"
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 10:56:45 10/20/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.85.61.211
Message:
Bambay never said anything negative about me. In fact he graciously welcomed me back.
Bambay was alluding to you, Shallow Jalloh, and that drug addict mongrel masquerading as a lawyer.
The two of you, and that quack, are the real disgrace to this forum.
If I were such a disgrace to this forum, I would not be graciously welcomed by the Reverend Kanu himself, nor would I be generating the tons of responses I get for the threads I initiate.
Your upbringing is worse than mine, considering the fact that you were brought up to be infinitely jealous, and condescending to others. But I will match you stupidity with firmness and smartness.
You borgeddor, you.
You ain't seen nothing yet. Falla me with you crase.
Yoptoi! yopmat!! Ee dina hui!!! Borterrmar bui!!
Subject: Re: Wanna Know who started it?
From: M. Alieu iscandaru Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 08:30:52 10/30/06 ()
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Subject: Re: I miss Bra Cornie
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 10:09:32 10/18/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.85.61.211
Message:
Botkidi, why are you asking that question?
Have you been on this forum incessantly (ALL the time) since its inception?
It is amazing the kinds of emotion I generate by my presence on this forum.
Love from my intellectual peers, my Mende and SLPP brothers.
Hate, rudeness, and general unfriendliness from my detractors, including some drug-ingesting akarta mongrels, and economic quarks.
Don't be hating (ebonics).
Love me or hate me, it is I, Sengbe, the Conqueror of Idiots.
Are one of them, Botkidi?
Subject: Re: another of his vitriolic posts
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 08:14:26 10/30/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
"As far as the other two guys are concerned, they can continue to wallow in their stupid diatribes against me too. I wonder why they never use their usual monikers in so doing. To use or state the words "QUACK" and "WOROKE" relative to them is neither demeaning nor tribalistic based on their negative attitude toward me on this forum.
I will no longer respond to the three of you directly - the other two know themselves. "
Subject: Re: appeal to professor edmund koker of elizabeth state universi
From: JUSTICE
To: All
Date Posted: 07:11:02 10/30/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 65.91.143.20
Message:
"This even-handed JUSTICE commends itself ......." Shakespeare.
The worst offender on this forum is certainly not the learned Professor of the sciences. He only reacts when his good name comes under attack. Even Kabs knows that.
When lilly-livered, half-baked, pseudo-intellectuals insult the Prof and he in turn reacts by releasing his precision, laser-guided missiles these half-baked like Alieu start to cry foul and resort to vivid, abusive language and verbiage. It is the likes of Alieu who must be sanctioned, not the professorial Doctor, Edmund Koker, who has only been defending his well-established name and image.
Kabs, JUSTICE must prevail and be seen to prevail on this popular forum.
Subject: Re: ANOTHER VITRIOLIC POST BY EDMUND KOKER
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 08:25:39 10/30/06 ()
Email Address:
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Subject: Re: I miss Bra Cornie
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 13:36:42 10/18/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.85.61.211
Message:
In your case, you are wise some of the time, but you always lack intellect / common sense.
Why are you trying to "set-fire" by asking such a question?
Am I bound by some yonibana law to be on this forum 24/7/365. I come and go as I please. I am not under your command.
We all know that you were actually trying to come to the aid of your akarta brethren by asking that silly question, but I beat you to the punch.
You talk about "smoking me out".
Who was trying to smoke me out?
The quack?
The drug addict?
The thieving economist?
Who, bra? Tell me who!!
Get out of the snow oberyanda, as your little brain is already frozen.
Eh! Salone man dem, why oona lef for fen plaba so? ehn glow ehn gloat nar oona setfire. Oonu nor geh nartin else for do? Oonar sorry oh!!!
Subject: Re: reposted for my archives. Read who started it first
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 08:02:01 10/30/06 ()
Email Address:
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Subject: I miss Bra Cornie
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 14:49:03 10/17/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.85.61.211
Message:
As you all know I have been away from the forum for quite sometime now. I left in July so that I could pursue my professional obligations overseas, and elsewhere. Also, I left because I did not want to crawl in the gutter with some of the low-lives on this forum, preferring instead to keep company with a better class of folks in my estimation.
One of those low-lives has very recently been substantially chastised by his own kith and kin on this forum. And we now know with certainty that it is /was through the use / abuse of drugs and alcohol that "made him do that". We feel very sorry for him and his family, and pray that he would overcome his negative addictions, so that he might positively contribute to the community he resides in.
The other one is still putting out economic theories that are not recognized by his peers, and he maintains that he's been doing so for over thirty years now so that he can inspire / teach his fellow Sa Lonians about the wrongs done to Africans, and Sa Lonians, in particular, by the Bretton Woods institutions over the span of several decades, out of his own patriotic volition. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Only that Alie Formeh, my Limba friend from Biriwa Chiefdom in the North of Sa Lon counteracts him every step of the way.[Nor worry yousef Alie, Kabbah did to your chiefdom the same thing he did to ours in Bagbo.]
Furthermore, if these theories were so sound, how come he does not offer to defend them at conferences organized by his own peers? And why is he not in residence in the country he boasts about uplifting from the imf's economic imperialism? Nuff said about that.
I came back and also found that the home away from Stockholm on this forum for my on-off favourite philosopher-cum-writer has been demolished.
I am talking about the one and only "Wan Han Bangle", Bra Cornie.
I miss Bra Cornie. His sanity. His insanity. His stupidity. His silliness. His prose. His borrowed poems. His name-dropping (for he is not really that vigorously well-educated as he aspires to be, so he name-drops). His name-calling (when he is drunk - according to JEL). His guitar-playing talent. [I wonder if he has new music cd's he can write about?] His Yoruba roots. His Ghanaian ancestry.
His cousin (Raymond) was my friend, but I don't know if Bra Cornie is my friend.
Are you my friend, Bra Cornie?
Well then, if you are my friend, you must come out from under the house arrest imposed on you by whomsoever. Furthermore, let me offer a proposal I made a few months ago, so that we can ALL get along as Sa Lonians.
[EH BO!! Why Sa Lon peeple lek make plaba so? Why we nor go jus practice peace, love, and harmony ALL of the time?]
In an effort to promulgate that love, that peace, that joy, and that harmony, amongst us, let me copy and paste that proposal herein:
Subject: Re: reposted for my archives. Read who started it first
From: cornelius
To: All
Date Posted: 08:10:10 10/30/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-0b8472d5.01-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se at 213.114.132.11
Message:
sometimes when Sengbe thinks about "Bra Cornie" he is feeling happy merry and gay, the way that Ghanaians feel on the 6th of March, Independence Day.
I can't blame him for being who he is.
He wants to lead you and the SLPP - that's his problem.
Subject: Re: appeal to professor edmund koker of elizabeth state universi
From: M. Alieu iscandari esq
To: All
Date Posted: 07:26:20 10/30/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
It was not alieu who threw the gauntlet, you must be new to the forum. It has always been your esteemed professor of rudeness who has thrown the gauntlet. EDMUND "DOGFACE" KOKER HAS BEEN always too willing to be nasty to others. When have i attacked Koker? Only when he has gone out of his wat to attack me personally. This time around I am on his ass like white on rice. Lets see how far this would go.
Justice? You dont know what justice is even if it hits you in your Dog looking face.
Subject: Re: appeal to professor edmund koker of elizabeth state universi
From: cornelius
To: All
Date Posted: 07:49:31 10/30/06 ()
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the nation understands.
Subject: Re: appeal to professor edmund koker of elizabeth state universi
From: cornelius
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Date Posted: 07:39:10 10/30/06 ()
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like white on rice, ha ha ha heeeeeeeee
Subject: Re: appeal to professor edmund koker of elizabeth state universi
From: cornelius
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Date Posted: 07:47:45 10/30/06 ()
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white like rice and black like my ass
Subject: Re: appeal to professor edmund koker of elizabeth state universi
From: cornelius
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Date Posted: 08:00:20 10/30/06 ()
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white on rice and black on our ass
Subject: Re: For Forum Intelligence and Kabbs Kanu
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 07:02:00 10/30/06 ()
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I reposted this information about Edmund Koker and everytime you take it out I will repost it. You should have taken down his postings when he accused me falsely of being a drug addict. Now he and I have to duke this one out. He could have come to this forum and made his contributions and people would have responded to him like the intelligent man that he is. Rather, he came back to the forum insulting people who he wants to put down. I have had it from this sonof a bitch and I am ready to go down that road with him once more.
Kabbs and this forum are a bunch of freaking hypocrites because you allow the defamation of other people to srtay on the forum and when they counter attack you remove the counter attack. When EDMUND KOKER the self styled chemistry professor stops treating people with derision on this forum then we will stop going after him. I am doing this for myself. Mohm, Curtis, Alie formeh and cornelius can do what they want to do on thir own behalf. This battle is mine to fight and off we go.
Subject: Re: For Forum Intelligence and Kabbs Kanu
From: FIGHTER
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Date Posted: 07:17:11 10/30/06 ()
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Fight your own cause and don't include the names of others because YOU ARE a BIG COWARD. I think that this time round, Koker will 'knama-knama' you to pulp. After you are gone we shall take Kay and give her to him for nothing!
Subject: Re: heres what someone else thinks about your hero
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 08:08:01 10/30/06 ()
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Subject: KABU RESEARCHER
From: DOG FACE
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Date Posted: 12:01:08 10/21/06 ()
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http://nia.ecsu.edu/onr/04-05/050221rsrch_wk/three.html
THE A#% HOEL CALLING HIMSELF SENGBE KOUNAWAH IS NONE OTHER THAN ELIZABETH STATE UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR EDMUND KOKER A KAYBASS LOOKING DOG FACED LOOKING WITH A MISPLACED TIE SONOFABITCH WHO DOES NOT KNOW WHO HIS FATHER WAS. RUMOUR HAS IT THAT HIS REAL FATHER WAS THE TOWNS NIGHT SOIL MAN. SO IN FACT NAR KAKA BALER PEKIN
Subject: Re: For Forum Intelligence and Kabbs Kanu
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 07:22:01 10/30/06 ()
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I said so clearly that I am fighting my own cause and if you didnt read that then you are the one who has been knama knama what ever that means.
Subject: An Appeal To Professor Edmund Koker of Elizabeth City State
From: FORUM MORALITY
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Date Posted: 04:42:20 10/30/06 ()
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"EDMUND KOKER, we are appealing to you to stop your LONGSTANDING habit of using different monikers to harass other forumites.
Our investigations have found that you have used monikers like SENGBE, CONTEH, KAMARA, NANCY JUSU, INVESTIGATOR, SIAKA STEVENS, PREDATOR, tc., to ABUSE, DEFAME, BAIT, DISCRIMINATE, AND OTHERWISE harass ALIEU ISCANDRI, DR. CHARLES CURTIS THOMAS, MOHAMED JALLOH, ALLIE FORMEH KAMARA, ALLIE RAINBOW, and most contributors here who have exposed your RUDENESS, CRUDITY, INCURABLE TRIBALISTIC TENDENCIES, AND INFERIORITY COMPLEX.
This has to stop. Asking a SELF-STYLED tenured college professor LIKE YOU, EDMUND KOKER who ALLEGES THAT HE has published extensively in scientific journals about GCE 'O' level exams makes ABSOLUTE sense WHEN THE SELF-STYLED PROFESSOR DEMONSTRATES AN INABILITY TO CORRECTLY CONSTRUCT A SIMPLE SENTENCE IN EGLISH, ESPECIALLY WHEN 'O' levels are for 17 and 18 year olds in West Africa.
"FORUM INTELLEGENCE" where was your "intelligence" when your rude, crude, tribalistic protege, EDMUND KOKER, was abusing other forumites here and hurling tribalistic slurs at them?
Or is that what YOU, like Koker, regard as "valuable contributions to this form?"
Subject: Re: An Appeal To Professor Edmund Koker of Elizabeth City State
From: cornelius
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Date Posted: 06:15:35 10/30/06 ()
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This is only a suggestion and we don’t have to vote on it. Just a combination of some of your national values will do. It’s a matter of initiative in what Mo Gallo would deny is a miniscule / microcosm Sierra Leone, any day.
Professor Koker has repeatedly denied using any moniker other than that by which he chose to make himself known, i.e. Sengbe incarnate flowing in his veins.
We could get our elder statesman Sir Sahr T to negotiate a ceasefire/ cessation of hostility from wherever hostility arises, peacefully. A telephone link would be best, that way we keep the matter out of the Forum where loss of face is at stake.
Four legs bad, two legs good.
Subject: Liberia's 'iron lady' in it for the long haul
From: Siaka Stevens
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Date Posted: 20:26:16 10/29/06 ()
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Liberia's 'iron lady' in it for the long haul
October 29 2006 at 06:04PM
My arrival at Robert's International Airport offered little hope: an angry, shoving series of queues dominated by aggressive ladies in bright dresses, posters declaring Liberia should be "gun free" - while UN helicopters cluttering the flight ramp reminded it was not - my passport being handed back and forth, more checks, stamps, forms handed over, filled in, handed back, over and back again, touts, baggage collection and customs check, baggage opening, baggage tag check, touts, exit, touts, and more touts.
All in a building the size of an average foyer, in stupefying humidity, weather, as Barbara Greene put it in her account of her 1935 journey across Liberia, "that takes every drop of energy out of your body".
Outside, a small jostling crowd had gathered, in the background the helmets of Swedish UN "solyas" popped out of the hatches of their white-painted Armoured Personnel Carriers. In front of the crumbling terminal was a big, white American SUV with the registration plate KIA1.
Liberia was never a colony. It was established as Africa's first independent country in 1822 by freed slaves from the United States.
Today the descendants of slaves comprise less than 5 percent of the population, though as an elite oligarchy they have retained virtually unbroken control of the economy and Liberia's turbulent politics since its constitution in 1854.
For the country is today best known not by its liberation path-breaking, but its ongoing and devastating civil war which began in 1980 when Liberia's tenth president, William Tolbert, was overthrown in a military coup led by Master Sgt Samuel Doe.
A decade of mismanagement, corruption, ruinous violence and abuse of power followed until Doe was, in turn, deposed in 1990 when rebel factions (including the National Patriotic Front militia led by future president Charles Taylor) mounted an uprising. Doe was murdered by forces allied to warlord Prince Johnson.
The civil war was eventually suspended by a 1997 peace agreement brokered by the Economic Community of West African States.
Taylor won the subsequent presidential election, but not only failed to eliminate armed opposition to his rule, he also transformed Liberia's fiscus into his private bank account.
Taylor's rule collapsed in 2003 under the combined impact of rebel attacks and UN sanctions imposed in retaliation for his involvement in Sierra Leone's civil war.
A peace deal signed in Ghana in August 2003 provided for the creation of a two-year National Transition Government of Liberia.
Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, a US-educated economist and finance minister under Tolbert, won the subsequent presidential elections, and took office in January 2006.
The 68-year-old Johnson Sirleaf faces the twin challenges of trying to rebuild the country and of fostering reconciliation through a South African-modelled Truth and Reconciliation Commission.
She has declared "zero tolerance'" of corruption, difficult to achieve where a policeman earns only $20 (about R153) monthly and ministers scarcely $30 (about R230).
The "Iron Lady" has a tough task on her hands. There is not much of an economy to speak of.
Most of Liberia's three million people are supported by aid or by working in agriculture (about 80 ) or services (15 ).
Its principal forms of income were traditionally the great rubber plantations (about $100 million (R676 million) annually).
Some income was also provided by iron ore deposits and small alluvial diamond diggings.
In more recent times, under Taylor, it became a conduit for smuggled gems from Sierra Leone when the latter was under sanctions.
Recorded exports fell from $440-million in 1988 to $2- million in 1997. Today unemployment is stuck at 85 percent.
Like failed states from Afghanistan to Zimbabwe, Liberia's collapse has its roots in politics.
Above all, wealth inequities along ethno-political lines. Here the Americo-Liberians get most of the wealth.
Other common causes of conflict are the centralised power of the executive; fragile and complex patronage-driven alliances between the elites and tribal authorities; contamination from a toxic region (the war in neighbouring Sierra Leone and ongoing political violence in Guinea and Ivory Coast); fragmentary justice systems; an outdated land registry system, the effect of mismanagement on the institutions of governance; natural resource rivalries, and endemic poverty arising from a lack of opportunities.
These conditions have been exacerbated by the large number of displaced people, and the resulting friction with local communities.
And these states face similar vulnerabilities in their peace settlements: the situation in both Afghanistan and Liberia demanded the inclusion within government of warlords.
As with many states emerging from war, the question is less what the problems are, but rather where and how to break the cycle of underdevelopment.
In a country the size of Portugal, only six of its 10 000km of roads are paved (Portugal's figure is 86 percent) and most of these are poorly maintained.
There is no national power grid, and two telephone mainlines for every 1000 people.
Monrovia (named after US president James Monroe) is a sad reminder of the absence of progress and impact of deliberate destruction.
The potholes, limited generator-supplied electricity and the absence of drinkable water for most inhabitants corresponds with the omnipresent hulks of half-finished or half-destroyed mould-encrusted buildings.
No wonder people have turned en masse to fundamentalist Christian Pentecostal preaching to try to relieve their suffering.
Crudely hand-painted billboards reflect this and other quirks of Liberian society - from the "Third Rock Enterprise Church" to "Hope International School", and my two favourites "International School for Aviation" and "Monrovia Investment Corp Filling Station and Auto Parts".
The impact of the war is most keenly felt on its people, around 250 000 of whom were killed and over 400 000 of whom fled to neighbouring countries.
Average per capita income is today just $120 (R920) annually (down from $1 269 in 1980) and it's GDP a little under $500 million (R3,8-billion).
No wonder Liberia did not even merit a mention among the 177 countries surveyed in the UN's 2005 Human Development Index ranking quality of life.
With an estimated unemployment rate of about 80 percent, the destruction of the health and education sectors has resulted in infant and maternal mortality estimated to be among the highest in the world, at 157 and 780 per 1 000 live births respectively. The national literacy rate is around 37 percent.
But there has been progress. In July 2006, World Bank president Paul Wolfowitz cited the election of President Johnson Sirleaf as a positive development for Africa.
"Monrovia," he exaggerated, "got water and electricity for the first time in 15 years".
He should really have said "some of Monrovia". But GDP growth was 21.2 percent in 2004 and 9.8 percent last year. Statistical life expectancy increased from 41.4 years in 2002 to 42.4 years in 2003.
The figures do not adequately reflect the post-war growth. There is more money in the system than the GDP shows, and this is not just the roughly $500 million (R3,8-billion) Liberia receives annually in foreign aid over and above the $750 million (R5,7-billion) costs of maintaining 15 000 UN peacekeepers.
The increase in cellphone usage (there was just one cellphone per 1 000 people in 2002, and totals more than 300 000 subscribers by 2006) and flows of diaspora remittances (there are around half a million Liberians in the US alone) offer some hint.
There is little doubt that if sales of beer, cigarette and detergent, were scrutinised, one could arrive at a more accurate (and positive) growth figure than that offered by the World Bank and other agencies.
So the impressive President Johnson Sirleaf, facing such an endless "To Do" list, has had to role up her sleeves and get stuck in quickly, despite her very limited domestic resources, cash, skilled workers, agitating opposition politicians and a restive population.
With no direct foreign donor budget support, she has had to think and operate creatively within the confines of her meagre government budget of just $125 million (R959 million).
As she observes, "We are a small country with vast natural resources, but where leadership and management have not been our strong points."
Her first challenge - to get the ball rolling, and put her stamp on things as quickly and firmly as possible - has been achieved through her 150-day initial programme to deliver electricity and water to the capital.
She also has to unlock the areas of greatest multiplier effect in the economy, linking infrastructure spending to economic needs, particularly aiming to open up the rural areas and market access through secondary roads and, ultimately, electrification. All of this is needed to unlock growth.
And finally, she will have to leverage her impeccable international reputation for all its worth.
Johnson Sirleaf's difficult task is to plan for the long-term while bringing visible, immediate benefits to the population to counter gnawing fatalism and destructive factionalism.
If anyone can do it, she can.
Greg Mills heads the Brenthurst Foundation in Johannesburg
Subject: PMDC will follow this path
From: Shameless SLPP learn from this.
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Date Posted: 13:49:09 10/29/06 ()
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Foreign firms bow to Bolivia energy nationalization
By Eduardo Garcia Sun Oct 29, 6:40 AM ET
LA PAZ, Bolivia (Reuters) - Bolivia's leftist president, Evo Morales, took a key step forward in his bold plan to nationalize the country's gas and oil industries on Sunday after foreign energy companies agreed to operate in the country under state control.
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Major energy firms including Petrobras and Repsol YPF ended months of talks with the government with last-minute agreements before a deadline set for midnight Saturday, agreeing to new contracts handing over a larger share of their profits to the Bolivian state.
The deals amounted to a political boost for Morales, the country's first indigenous leader, who has faced criticism for months that the process had been slow-moving and clouded with uncertainty.
"With these new contracts we want to generate more economic resources to solve the economic and social problems of our country. That's our great wish," Morales said during a signing ceremony attended by company executives.
A nationalization decree issued by Morales on May 1 gave foreign companies six months to negotiate new contracts handing over a majority stake in their Bolivian operations or abandon the country.
Brazil's Petrobras (PETR4.SA)(NYSE:PBR - news) and Spain's Repsol YPF (REP.MC) are the biggest investors in Bolivia's oil and gas industry, controlling 47.3 percent and 26.7 percent of the proven and probable natural gas reserves in the country.
Petrobras, Brazil's state-owned oil company, also pledged to invest $1.5 billion in Bolivia's energy industry after agreeing to operate in the country under state control, Juan Carlos Ortiz, the head of Bolivia's state-owned energy company YPFB, told Reuters.
On Friday night, France's Total (TOTF.PA) and U.S-based Vintage became the first companies to comply with the nationalization.
Although specific details of the new contracts have not been revealed, the government has said they are designed to give YPFB more control over production and commercialization of oil and gas products.
The government has also said new contracts would contain a clause requiring energy multinationals to invest part of their profits in the country's energy sector.
According to the new deals, the companies will now operate as service providers to Bolivia's YPFB in exchange for between 18 to 50 percent of the revenue.
Morales, wearing his trademark striped sweater, said the agreements will quadruple Bolivia's energy revenues over the next four years from a current $1 billion. He also sought to assure companies their operations would be protected by the law.
"What we are doing here is to exercise our property rights, as Bolivians, over our natural resources, without evicting any one, without confiscating," he said.
The Bolivian leader insists he wants to use the energy revenue to help alleviate poverty in South America's poorest country.
NEW CONTRACTS
Some energy companies with smaller interests in Bolivia, including British gas and oil producer BG Group Plc (BG.L), Amoco, which is controlled by British Petroleum (BP.L), and the Argentine companies Pluspetrol and Matpetrol also signed new contracts.
A major campaign pledge by Morales, the drive to assert greater state control over Bolivia's gas and oil fields has suffered a series of setbacks in recent months, including resignations of key officials, prompting analysts to say the nationalization was flailing.
A lack of technical expertise and funds at YPFB also slowed the government's efforts to take over Bolivia's natural gas reserves, the second largest in South America after Venezuela's.
The government had been locked in arduous talks for months ahead of the deadline, particularly with Petrobras.
Brazil is the biggest buyer of Bolivian natural gas and Petrobras has invested more than $1.5 billion in oil and gas exploration and exploitation in recent years.
The nationalization "has assured significant investments, put the most important is the recovery of our sovereignty over our natural resources," YPFB President Juan Carlos Ortiz said.
(Additional reporting by Carlos Quiroga and Mario Roque in La Paz)
Subject: Re: PMDC will follow this path
From: Allie Rainbow
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Date Posted: 15:37:06 10/29/06 ()
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Interesting Article! But Seriously Speaking,Do You guys have any Provision that spells out Nationalization of Sierra Leone's Natural Rescources in Your Manifesto or Policy Platform?
If You Do, Could you Kindly post the chapter or Section that you are Referencing for other Forumites to acquaint themselves with it?
Subject: Re: PMDC will follow this path
From: Homo Erectus
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Date Posted: 06:55:50 10/30/06 ()
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Yeah! These PMDC empty drums can ape anything whether it would work or not. Adaptation, not transplantation is the word.
But in any case, what sane person will vote for PMDC. They will be lucky to come fourth. UNPP will beat them clean. Didn't you see how young Maada Bio beat Charles Margai at the SLPP leadership election in Makeni? That was just a foretaste of things to come.
SLPP, it's time to pay you back for bringing peace and harmony to mama salone. You are the only way out.
Subject: Re: PMDC will follow this path
From: Moijue
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Date Posted: 08:00:56 10/30/06 ()
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do you have to lie Homo Erectus? Marda came 3rd.No wonder SLPP continues to lie for the people
Subject: THE STORY OF SARAH CULBERSON
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 13:42:23 10/29/06 ()
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Subject: Confused
From: Kamajor
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Date Posted: 12:52:10 10/29/06 ()
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I am one of the people who had respected Joh Leigh and to some extent, I still do.
But I am confused about his utterances these days.
Sometime ago, Mr. Leigh claimed to be a very good friend of chief Norman and went on to acuse Charles Margai for refusing to defend his (Leigh's) friend Norman
because chief Noramn could not pay the said $50,000.00 Charles charged.
We have now seen John calling Charles a flunky lawyer.
I am now confused. Is John really a frined of chief Noramn as he claims that he would be mad that a "flunky lawyer" would refuse to defend him. If John is a friend that he claims to be, and as lawyer will he not be in the court room defending chief Norman?
Will he not be happy that a "Flunky lawayer' did not defend his "friend"He claims to be helping the Norman family, but I don't think chief Norman wants handouts.
What he wants is his freedom. As a friend and a lawyer
I think John has the ability to help in winning that freedom for chief Norman.
Subject: Re: Confused
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:51:13 10/29/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. Kamajor:
You are not a genuine friend of Chief Norman. If you are, you would never be confused about our relationship.
From the words you've used, you are nothing but a Simple Simeon front for papa's precious, lovely, little baby boy spoilt brat form four flunky.
Good-bye. -JL
Subject: Re: Confused
From: SLPP Stalwart
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Date Posted: 17:17:51 10/29/06 ()
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John,
The "form four flunky" will rock the New York tri-State area next week. Would you be around to listen to the best orator in Sierra Leone politics speak? You may learn a lot from a better lawyer.
Subject: Re: Confused
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 07:52:24 10/30/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Papa's precious, lovely little babyboy spoilt brat form four flunky Irish Bar Orals will be with his remedials, dunces, fulumunkus, tombos, dumbos, frog doctors, fickle-feeble-minded frogie paramedics, disbarred lawyers, disappointed political harlots and crooks boastfully telling them: "ah go du dis, ah go du dat, ah go, ah go, go go go ......." all the while using flunky dunce argumentation and trying to reap where he didn't sow.
I do not belong in such a rubbish political grouping. Good luck in all your endeavors. Thanks. - JL
Subject: Re: Confused
From: APC Man
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Date Posted: 23:27:38 10/29/06 ()
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Rock New York or not, this fellow is not going to get 2 % of the vote.
How many S/Leoneans in the New York tri-state area are going to vote in Sa. Lone in July 2007? Probably 0.
How many are going to put up the money they plege (to show off)? Probably less than 25 %.
Subject: ALIEU ISCANDRI AGAIN
From: siaka stevens
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Date Posted: 11:52:53 10/29/06 ()
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aGAIN MY COUNTRYMEN AND WOMEN, THE SAME ip. aY SALONE WE SORRY OH.
Posted by IDIOT [cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198] on October 29, 2006 at 10:52:19:
Posted by M. Alieu Iscandari esq [cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198] on October 29, 2006 at 10:26:22:
In Reply to: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged? posted by COWARD on October 28, 2006 at 15:55:44:
I am not going to get involved in this fray unless and until I am forced to get in and then I will start by telling Koker the circumstances of his birth. Then.... welll I dont need to say anymore, he knows who he is dealing with. I am ready to debate issues and if it comes down to being low down and nasty, well I am from foulah town and thats all you need to know because I can get down ther real quick. I am the doctor of quick fixes and I do know how to cure genetic insanity from any one.
I have tried to stay away from all of this nonsense because it is counter productive. I have been accused of using other names to insult Koker but I think in his heart he knows that I am probably the only ine here who will use my name to call his mother names. Koker wants to insult and defamme me on this forum, well I am ready. Kabbs may have to close the damn forum because Kabs' forum police and forum intelligence let Koker get away with insulting other people and defaming them and when they fight back, they become victims of Kabs' moderator, forum police and forum intelligence. Seems like someone is enjoying this bull shit but I am not. It hurts me every time I have to say something NASTY to Koker but he deserves it ALL the time.
Posted by IDIOT [cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198] on October 29, 2006 at 10:52:19:
In Reply to: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged? posted by ok dok on October 28, 2006 at 14:55:54:
DID YOU FEEL SIMILAR UNBRAGE WHEN KOKER WAS INSULTING ISCANDARI AND CALLING HIM A DRUG ADDICT? DID YOU POST AND ASK KOKER TO STOP? I UNDERSTAND IF YOU FEEL INSULTED BUT KOKER BROUGHT IT UPON HIMSELF THE BASTARD.
Subject: Re: ALIEU ISCANDRI AGAIN
From: cornelius
To: All
Date Posted: 06:36:58 10/30/06 ()
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This is only a suggestion and we don’t have to vote on it. Just a combination of some of your national values will do. It’s a matter of initiative in what Mo Gallo would deny is a miniscule / microcosm Sierra Leone, any day.
Professor Koker has repeatedly denied using any moniker other than that by which he chose to make himself known, i.e. Sengbe incarnate flowing in his veins.
We could get our elder statesman Sir Sahr T to negotiate a ceasefire/ cessation of hostility from wherever hostility arises, peacefully. A telephone link would be best, that way we keep the matter out of the Forum where loss of face is at stake.
Four legs bad, two legs good.
Alhaji the professor Ma Google give more happy returns on the subject, all of 29,800,000.
But Yahoo will do:
seven national values
http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=slv2-&ei=UTF-8&p=seven%20national%20values
Subject: Re: EDMUND KOKER, WE ARE TIRED OF YOU
From: Disgusted
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Date Posted: 12:33:35 10/29/06 ()
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Edmund Koker, you started disgracing this cocorioko forum when you came here a week ago after Alieu had given you a taste of your own medicine, which made the coward in you run away for 2 months.
we the civilized salone people here look at you as a rude, tribalistic fool, with an inferiortiy complex who wants to Pull Down everyone to yuour low intellectual level. it won't work, becos the people you are trying to bring down to your level are way smarter than you.
Take my advice, rude scarf. Go away. We don't need uncivilized idiots like you to disgrace this form with your lies about Isacadaris' IP numbers. Anyone can steal someone's IP number. Just like you steal names like Sengbe, Conteh, Kamara, Predator, Nancy Jusu, Siaka Stevens, Investigator, etc., to insult your betters like Dr. Curtis Thomas, jalloh, Foreh Kamara, Allie Rainbow, etc.
You don't need to continue to show us that you have no home training. We know, already since the past years of watching your tribalistic rudeness.
so, do us a favor: GO AWAY, tribalistic idiot.
Subject: Re: EDMUND KOKER, WE ARE TIRED OF YOU
From: cornelius
To: All
Date Posted: 12:45:55 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-0b8472d5.01-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se at 213.114.132.11
Message:
Sengbe returned with a clean slate and a good heart, with which he even extending a welcome to me.
Inevitably, predictably, he would respond to any vulgar attack and counter with some of the more or less of the same
thereby maintaining an equilibrium of opprobrium
until a sense of propriety comes stepping in.
These are the guidelines in Ghanaweb:
Subject: Re: EDMUND KOKER, WE ARE TIRED OF YOU
From: cornelius
To: All
Date Posted: 12:44:36 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-0b8472d5.01-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se at 213.114.132.11
Message:
Sengbe returned with a clean slate and a good heart, with which he even extending a welcome to me.
Inevitably, predictably, he would respond to any vulgar attack and counter with some of the more or less of the same
thereby maintaining an equilibrium of opprobrium
until a sense of propriety comes stepping in.
These are the guidelines in Ghanaweb:
http://sil.ghanaweb.com/rules.php
Subject: Re: EDMUND KOKER, WE ARE TIRED OF YOU
From: cornelius
To: All
Date Posted: 13:24:00 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-142-135-50.hsd1.nj.comcast.net at 69.142.135.50
Message:
??????Is this Cornelius Hamelberg??????
Subject: Re: ALIEU ISCANDRI AGAIN
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 12:07:23 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h167-156-253.63.chubb.com at 167.156.63.253
Message:
Please contribute something to the forum instead of harasssing Alieu. Don't we all know that people use different monikers ? It is not a big deal.
Subject: Sierra Leone: Govt Adopts 'Humanitarian Budget'
From: Salone News
To: All
Date Posted: 11:40:47 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-44c29146.dyn.optonline.net at 68.194.145.70
Message:
The Independent (Freetown)
October 26, 2006
Posted to the web October 26, 2006
Alpha Kargbo
Based on the insistence of the World Bank and donor agencies for government to tailor its budget so as to enhance poverty reduction, it is now evident that government is maximising efforts to achieve it.
Reports say the donor community has been reluctant to release money to help government reduce its budgetary deficit, which has been attributed to lack of financial discipline.
World Bank and donors recommend a "poverty budget" to alleviate the suffering of the masses.
However, the measures adopted in compliance with the dictates of the international community have affected a sector of the society. Contractors have been complaining of selective payment due to this strict financial requirement.
Mr. J. O Wellington is the country's Financial Secretary. He says, the country is cash-strapped but the government has to direct resources towards poverty alleviation objectives. On selective payment to contractors, he says "priority is given to contractors dealing with schemes related to poverty alleviation, while those outside such scheme have to wait till when funds are available". He emphasises that the government is so committed to poverty alleviation that most of its resources are directed to achieve such an objective.
Subject: YOU BE THE JUDGE
From: SIAKA STEVENS
To: All
Date Posted: 11:37:16 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ac202-054.resnet.stonybrook.edu at 130.245.202.54
Message:
Now forumites, you be the judge. Alieu Iscandri and the abuser who has been destroying the forum has the same IP. What a revealation indeed. Ay salone we sorry oh.
Posted by M. Alieu Iscandari esq [cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198] on October 29, 2006 at 10:26:22:
Posted by NASI-- - [cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198] on October 29, 2006 at 10:10:21:
Posted by NASI-- - [cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198] on October 29, 2006 at 10:10:21:
YOU MAMA SLEEP WIT IM PAPA IM BRODA FOR BORN YOU. YOU NORTO TRUE KOKER
Posted by M. Alieu Iscandari esq [cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198] on October 29, 2006 at 10:26:22:
In Reply to: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged? posted by COWARD on October 28, 2006 at 15:55:44:
I am not going to get involved in this fray unless and until I am forced to get in and then I will start by telling Koker the circumstances of his birth. Then.... welll I dont need to say anymore, he knows who he is dealing with. I am ready to debate issues and if it comes down to being low down and nasty, well I am from foulah town and thats all you need to know because I can get down ther real quick. I am the doctor of quick fixes and I do know how to cure genetic insanity from any one.
I have tried to stay away from all of this nonsense because it is counter productive. I have been accused of using other names to insult Koker but I think in his heart he knows that I am probably the only ine here who will use my name to call his mother names. Koker wants to insult and defamme me on this forum, well I am ready. Kabbs may have to close the damn forum because Kabs' forum police and forum intelligence let Koker get away with insulting other people and defaming them and when they fight back, they become victims of Kabs' moderator, forum police and forum intelligence. Seems like someone is enjoying this bull shit but I am not. It hurts me every time I have to say something NASTY to Koker but he deserves it ALL the time.
Subject: Re: YOU BE THE JUDGE
From: ok dok
To: All
Date Posted: 11:47:37 10/29/06 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
Entered From: px2nr.wp.shawcable.net at 24.66.94.141
Message:
By the way why are people using others IP? Why not just stay where you are and have the freedom to even use your bad language for us all to know you and your characters?
Subject: Re: YOU BE THE JUDGE
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 11:53:14 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h167-156-253.63.chubb.com at 167.156.63.253
Message:
There are other ways for readers who are internet savvy to get the IP of contributors. COCORIOKO does not reveal IPs. We can set up the forum to show IPs when people become rowdy and unruly but we don not have the facility to know your IPs if we do not set the forum to publicly indicate IPs.
This is therefore not from COCORIOKO.
Subject: KOKERS TRUE PARENTAGE
From: NASI-- -
To: All
Date Posted: 10:10:21 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
YOU MAMA SLEEP WIT IM PAPA IM BRODA FOR BORN YOU. YOU NORTO TRUE KOKER
Subject: Re: KOKERS TRUE PARENTAGE
From: Sylvester Johnny
To: All
Date Posted: 11:29:45 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-67-181-21-16.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 67.181.21.16
Message:
Rev Kanu and Forum Police,
In the interest of some who have morals, could you please delete these types of postings. Nobody is interested in the parentatge of anyone. Only your mother and science can truely proof who your father is.
LET US BEHAVE LIKE WE ARE CIVILIZED PEOPLE OR AT LEAST HAVE SOME EXPOSURE TO CIVILIZED SOCIETIES.
Subject: Re: KOKERS TRUE PARENTAGE
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 12:06:01 10/29/06 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
Entered From: adsl-75-20-220-255.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net at 75.20.220.255
Message:
Sylvester:
The individuals who behave in such disgusting ways are the ones who ultimately end up like RUF members.
They are devoid of any admirable moral assets.
No matter what interpersonal conflict we are facing or experiencing, we must recognise limits.
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: EDMUND KOKER WE DAE BAIG YOU
From: BRA WE DAE BAIG YOU
To: All
Date Posted: 09:51:09 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.116.198
Message:
"Edmund Koker,
Please stop this nonsense. You are bigger than this. This is an obsessive behavior, the same you had for Dr. Ed Smith at Leonenet. Do not destroy a good forum that Rev. Kabs Kanu worked tirelessly to put together. Please have some respect for your compatriots."
BTW, "respect for your compatriots." means:
1. Do NOT abuse other siera leoneans
2. Do NOT hurl tribalistic slurs at other siera leoneans
2. Do NOT defame other siera leoneans because they diasgaree with your tribalistic rants
When YOU do that, Edmund Koker, we would know that you know what it means to "respect for your compatriots."
Subject: Re: EDMUND KOKER WE DAE BAIG YOU
From: Nar for cuss im mama
To: All
Date Posted: 10:07:17 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
wen you cuss koker im mama e day chill. you nor see now nar hint e day pull pan alieu iscandari e nor geh mind call im name becos alieu go tell am quick ow im mama born am. wee nor give ar damm ow e mama die.
Subject: MOHAMED JALLOH, BRA WE DAE BAIG YOU
From: BRA WE BAIG
To: All
Date Posted: 09:42:33 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ae04.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.8
Message:
Moh'm Jalloh,
Please stop this nonsense. You are bigger than this. This is an obsessive behavior, the same you had for Dr. Ed Smith at Leonenet. Do not destroy a good forum that Rev. Kabs Kanu worked tirelessly to put together. Please have some respect for your compatriots.
Subject: Re: MOHAMED JALLOH, BRA WE DAE BAIG YOU
From: Alie Formeh Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 09:49:35 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-rtc-ae04.proxy.aol.com at 152.163.101.8
Message:
Leave Mohammed Jalloh alone. He has distinguished himself as an eloquent writer on substantive issues affecting Sierra Leone and some one who is non partisan.
He is not petty.
Subject: Re: MOHAMED JALLOH, BRA WE DAE BAIG YOU
From: I Agree
To: All
Date Posted: 10:01:17 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.116.198
Message:
First, he harasses Alieu Iscandari -- and the forum administrator lets him do it with impunity. He calla Alieu a drug addict, he used valgar language Like "moda phocker" -- and still the forum administrators let him get away with it.
Next, he abuses Dr. Charles Curtis Thomas. Of course, the forum administartor did not even raise a whimper to protest.
So, of course, he goes on to attack Mr. jalloh. He called Jalloh a "modibo" -- a vile racial slur. The forum admistrator did do something, then:
He asked the vfictim, Jalloh -- not the serial harraser, Sengbe --to stop "harassing others on this forum!" Furthermore, he takes the side of the serial harraser, sengbe, who comulsdively comes here daily to display his inferiority complex by abusing, defaming and ranting tribalistically at respected forumites who contribute substantial ideas.
and you wonder why sober people don't bother to post here anymore.
Subject: Re: MOHAMED JALLOH, BRA WE DAE BAIG YOU
From: Re: EDMUND KOKER,, BRA WE DAE BAIG YOU
To: All
Date Posted: 09:48:13 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.116.198
Message:
"Edmund Koker,
Please stop this nonsense. You are bigger than this. This is an obsessive behavior, the same you had for Dr. Ed Smith at Leonenet. Do not destroy a good forum that Rev. Kabs Kanu worked tirelessly to put together. Please have some respect for your compatriots."
BTW, "respect for your compatriots." means:
1. Do NOT abuse other siera leoneans
2. Do NOT hurl tribalistic slurs at other siera leoneans
2. Do NOT defame other siera leoneans because they diasgaree with your tribalistic rants
When YOU do that, Edmund Koker, we would know that you know what it means to "respect for your compatriots."
Subject: AN APPEAL TO EDMUND KOKER
From: FORUM MORALITY
To: All
Date Posted: 09:05:10 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.116.198
Message:
"EDMUND KOKER, we are appealing to you to stop your LONGSTANDING habit of using different monikers to harass other forumites.
Our investigations have found that you have used monikers like SENGBE, CONTEH, KAMARA, NANCY JUSU, INVESTIGATOR, SIAKA STEVENS, PREDATOR, tc., to ABUSE, DEFAME, BAIT, DISCRIMINATE, AND OTHERWISE harass ALIEU ISCANDRI, DR. CHARLES CURTIS THOMAS, MOHAMED JALLOH, ALLIE FORMEH KAMARA, ALLIE RAINBOW, and most contributors here who have exposed your RUDENESS, CRUDITY, INCURABLE TRIBALISTIC TENDENCIES, AND INFERIORITY COMPLEX.
This has to stop. Asking a SELF-STYLED tenured college professor LIKE YOU, EDMUND KOKER who ALLEGES THAT HE has published extensively in scientific journals about GCE 'O' level exams makes ABSOLUTE sense WHEN THE SELF-STYLED PROFESSOR DEMONSTRATES AN INABILITY TO CORRECTLY CONSTRUCT A SIMPLE SENTENCE IN EGLISH, ESPECIALLY WHEN 'O' levels are for 17 and 18 year olds in West Africa.
"FORUM INTELLEGENCE" where was your "intelligence" when your rude, crude, tribalistic protege, EDMUND KOKER, was abusing other forumites here and hurling tribalistic slurs at them?
Or is that what YOU, like Koker, regard as "valuable contributions to this form?"
Subject: Re: AN APPEAL TO EDMUND KOKER
From: Siaka Stevens
To: All
Date Posted: 09:11:31 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ac202-054.resnet.stonybrook.edu at 130.245.202.54
Message:
Mohamed Jalloh,
Siaka Stevens is not Sengbe. I post from New York. Ask the moderator, forum intelligence or Kabs Kanu to investigate. This rudeness has to stop.To see grown men like you disgracing yourself here,tells me why alone is messed up. What are you fighting for? Is this a popularity contest? Ay salone, we sorry oh.
Subject: Re: AN APPEAL TO EDMUND KOKER
From: Joker Koker
To: All
Date Posted: 09:17:20 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.116.198
Message:
Edmund Koker,
"Siaka Stevens IS Sengbe. I CLAIM TO POST post from New York. Ask the moderator, forum intelligence or Kabs Kanu to investigate. YOUR rudeness has to stop.To see grown men like you disgracing yourself here,tells me why alone is messed up. What are you fighting for? Is this a popularity contest? "
Ay salone, we sorry oh." ACTUALLY, IT IS YOU -- A CRUDE, RUDE, TRIBALIST WITH AN INFERIORITY COMPLEX -- who is the only DISGRACE on this forum.
Subject: AN APPEAL TO MOHAMED JALLOH
From: FORUM INTELLIGENCE
To: All
Date Posted: 08:20:52 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-44c29146.dyn.optonline.net at 68.194.145.70
Message:
Moh'm Jalloh, we are appealing to you to stop your new habit of using different monikers to harass other forumites. Our investigations have found that you have used monikers like Joker Koker, mirror, inferiority complex, teacher, etc., to harass Sengbe. This has to stop. Asking a tenured college professor who has published extensively in scientific journals about GCE 'O' level exams makes no sense. 'O' levels are for 17 and 18 year olds in West Africa.
You are a valuable member of this forum. We urge that you not allow yourself to be distracted from the the productive work that you have been doing here. If you do not adhere to this, then you will risk your IP being blocked. Thanks.
Subject: Re: AN APPEAL TO MOHAMED JALLOH
From: FORUM MORALITY
To: All
Date Posted: 09:00:23 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.116.198
Message:
"EDMUND KOKER, we are appealing to you to stop your LONGSTANDING habit of using different monikers to harass other forumites. Our investigations have found that you have used monikers like SENGBE, CONTEH, KAMARA, NANCY JUSU, INVESTIGATOR, SIAKA STEVENS, PREDATOR, tc., to ABUSE, DEFAME, BAIT, DISCRIMINATE, AND OTHERWISE harass ALIEU ISCANDRI, dR. CHARLES CURTIS THOMAS, MOHAMED JALLOH, ALLIE FORMEH KAMARA, ALLIE RAINBOW, and most contributors here who have exposed your RUDENESS, CRUDITY, INCURABLE TRIBALISTIC TENDENCIES, AND INFERIORITY COMPLEX.
This has to stop. Asking a SELF-STYLED tenured college professor LIKE YOU, EDMUND KOKER who ALLEGES THAT HE has published extensively in scientific journals about GCE 'O' level exams makes ABSOLUTE sense WHEN THE SELF-STYLED PROFESSOR DEMONSTRATES AN INABILITY TO CORRECTLY CONSTRUCT A SIMPLE SENTENCE IN EGLISH, ESPECIALLY WHEN 'O' levels are for 17 and 18 year olds in West Africa.
"FORUM INTELLEGENCE" where was your rude, crude, tribalistic protege, EDMUND KOKER, was abusing other forumites here and hurling tribalistic slurs at them?
Or is that what YOU, like Koker, regard as "valuable contributions to this form?"
Subject: RESPONSE TO MR. LEIGH
From: Albert Moinina
To: All
Date Posted: 01:35:03 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 59.160.169.60
Message:
MR. JOHN LEIGH WRITES:
"Now that the election date has been announced I am withholding criticisms of my party until after the elections. I would not mind allowing a 12-month honeymoon free from attacks from me."
MOININA'S RESPONSE: Thanks for that response.. I have no doubt in your statement. But as a very intelligent man and well respected, I guess you know when to jump out of a sinking boat which cannot be rescued. In any event, please realize that in this global village we live in today, you never know who may bring the next boat to rescue you. You have your good place in history, don’t allow others to pull you down while drowning. That way they think it is ok to drown after all because a good guy like JL is also drowning.
MR. JOHN LEIGH'S Q AND A:
MOININA’S QUESTION
"Q9. Are you telling us that KABBA is the only person responsible for the alleged mess in the running of the affairs of the state?
MR. LEIGH’S ANSWER:
"A9. YES! He is the exclusive sovereign power in SL. Any power for Berewa's devolves from his president as the president deems fit. And let me tell you something: that power will never include the right to publicaly criticize the president or publicly disagree with him. So, take heart and calm down"
MOININA'S RESPONSE:
Mr. Leigh as much I would like to believe your statement that an African VP has very minimal powers and is required to be loyal to a fault, how can such a person be trusted with the affairs of the country when he was and is completely silent or at least not seen or heard to voice his discontentment or disapproval of ills, ineffective, inefficient and watermelon policies that affect the average Sierra Leonean.
We all know that corruption and inefficient civil service is a major factor in our lack of development. What has been Berewa's contribution for the past 10 years as a very senior government official to eradicate or improve on these ills? People like you and Margai who voiced out their disapproval of decisions or policies of the government were either kicked out or asked to resign. That is why most of us have great respect for people like you who stood up for the people, not Berewa who is a loyalist to a FAULT. My conclusion is that it is too late for Berewa to demonstrate his loyalty and commitment to the people. He may be genuine and now commitment to help the people, I have no evidence to dispute that but for me it is too late to TRUST HIM BASED ON HIS RECORD.
It is a fact that if the challenge to Berewa's leadership of the SLPP had succeeded in court, the jubilation would not have come from opponents but "deep" within the SLPP itself. Secretly SLPP members were hoping for Berewa to be kicked out by the court. For us opponents, our goal was for the good of the country because any of these candidates can be our next president.
I read with dismay Berewa’s lack of responsibility, sensitivity, authoritarian attitude, despicable respect for the average Joe and disdain for difficult questions despite his quest for the position of the highest AUTHORITY and RESPONSIBILITY. His response to the question to the issue of waste collection and postal mismanagement would have counted him COMPLETELY OUT OF THE RACE in any civilized country. When you were ambassador, you fought tooth and nail above and beyond your duty as an Ambassador. You answered the difficult questions tactfully and help rally the world to come to our aid.
NOW IMAGINE, IF SIERRA LEONE IS IN A DIFFICULT SITUATION WHERE WE DESPERATELY NEED THE HELP OF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY. IMAGINE BEREWA BEING ASKED VERY DIFFICULT QUESTIONS AND WHAT HIS RESPONSE WOULD BE WITH HIS ATTITUDE TOWARDS DIFFICULT QUESTIONS.
In a country like ours, politicians take us for granted. They can say and do whatever and howsoever without the slightest consideration that they are servants and not masters of the people.
As an APPRENTICE, borrowing from Donald Trump the people are going to say on July 28, 2007 “BEREWA YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE YOU BLEW IT UP. YOU FAILED TO LIVE UP TO OUR EXPECTATION, WE THE MASTER AND YOU BEING THE SERVANT. UNFORTUNATELY, YOU TOOK US FOR GRANTED AND PARADED YOURSELF AS THE MASTER. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.”
“BEREWA YOU ARE FIRED. YOU CAN LEAVE THE STAGE AND GO RETIRE OR BACK TO YOUR CHAMBERS”.
Thanks Mr. Leigh for your response.
Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO MR. LEIGH
From: Alie Formeh Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 09:12:42 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-rtc-ae04.proxy.aol.com at 152.163.101.8
Message:
I join Albert Moinina in describing you as an 'intelligent man and well respected' but I am dismayed by your assertion in response to Albert's question that Kabba is the only man responsible for the mess in running the affairs of the ship of state.
Kabba alone is not the SLPP administration. If John Leigh believes that Kabba is solely responsible for the mess in Sierra Leone then he is saying that Kabba is a dictator. On the contrary, I believe that the SLPP administration, of which Berewa is a part, is responsible for the mess in Sierra Leone.
The following is an excerpt from John Leigh’s contribution on October 28 attributing success on local administration to the SLPP administration: “…Our country is a land of unnecessary suffering. I am glad that the SLPP administration did the right thing and restored local decision making to the locals.” It is conventional wisdom that the policies and practices of a government are attributed to the party administration. Therefore the failures of the government are equally shared by the members of that party unless an individual in that party demonstrated dissention.
The obvious conclusion from John Leigh’s belief is that Berewa was a YES MAN and that he did not posses the fortitude of a true and benevolent Sierra Leonean to resist Kabba from sailing the ship of state into troubled waters.
It is public knowledge that John Leigh and President kabba fell apart in part because of John’s criticisms of Kabba. John’s resilience was admired by many Sierra Leoneans and frankly his example was reminiscent of great leaders like Mandela and Dr. Martin Luther King. But eye ball to eye ball John blinked and things fell apart. He is now holding on to Berewa’s coat on a sinking ship (hold me coat).
Despite this flip flop John is still a better captain than the YES MAN he is hanging on to. He was robbed and his faced literally bloodied by the same man when he contested for the position of captain in what John described as a ‘conbention’, rather than an SLPP convention. What chance is there that this new alliance would hold when Berewa has clearly been dubbed the Marchiavelli of Sierra Leone?
Let me conclude by endorsing these good words of advise from Albert Moinina
“But as a very intelligent man and well respected, I guess you know when to jump out of a sinking boat which cannot be rescued. In any event, please realize that in this global village we live in today, you never know who may bring the next boat to rescue you. You have your good place in history, don’t allow others to pull you down while drowning. That way they think it is ok to drown after all because a good guy like JL is also drowning.”
Amen.
Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO MR. LEIGH
From: Siaka Stenvens
To: All
Date Posted: 09:15:26 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ac202-054.resnet.stonybrook.edu at 130.245.202.54
Message:
Alie,
You lack the credibility to question any politician in salone. For a man who sees Stevens as a hero, you should not be even talking about others. Please remove the speck from your own eys first, before you try removing the speck from others. Youy are politically blind. You guys never critisixze your own, but you are all over the place critisizing others. A self proclaimed Stevens lover has no credibility whatsoever to critisize others. What a guy indeed.
Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO MR. LEIGH
From: Maurice Dorman
To: All
Date Posted: 11:53:13 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 205.134.0.39
Message:
You So called Siaka Stevens, I am going to expose the Fake Masters Degree you claim to Have Recieved From England; i am waiting for the PDF Copy:
Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO MR. LEIGH
From: Solomon Berewa
To: All
Date Posted: 09:20:30 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.116.198
Message:
"Please remove the speck from your own eys first, before you try removing the speck from others."
You should take your own advice. Rudeness, tribalism, and telling lies are no substitute for patriotism or good manners
Subject: Which of these have been constantly violated here?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:18:57 10/28/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ws-lib234.lib.csus.edu at 130.86.14.77
Message:
Greetings my brothers and sisters. This question is specifically for Reverend KABS KANU but any one can pitch-in. Which is worst Reverend, violating these Commandments or merely seeing naked bodies. Was Adam and Eve not naked while God saw it but did not mind, and the only time they realized it was when they had committed a sin against God. Implying therefore that there is nothing immoral in Gods site about our nakedness, due to the fact that he brought us to this world that way and being that we are full of sins therefore, we are ashamed, embarrassed and have therefore labeled it immoral in our, humans site but it is moral in God's site, in that He brought us to this world naked?
Would you rather disallow what is favorable in God's site, since He did not name exposing our naked bodies as a violation of the Ten Commandments, and favor violations of the behaviors that are perpetrated here by most contributors, which stem from bearing false witness against our neighbors, coveting what is our neighbors, attempting to kill or plotting to cause harm that would cause death and many other anti-Godly acts?
Please note that I am asking for you to change your perception about our nakedness because the idea of inclusion is in-perceivable in such a setting, as you never took any opinion pool to ascertain from your contributors, administering a democratic fashion, to know what the majority thinks of such an idea?
Most of your contributors here are Medical Doctors and many who have studied biology or related subjects and have been in classrooms, where our naked parts, because that is the only area of our anatomical and physiological make-up some of us refer to as naked, where they have studied, touched, identified the various areas and their functions to making us be whole humans?
Excuse me if I am being too democratically minded. I can't help it but in fora as this, where utterances pertaining to democratic change are frequent and encouraged, I will see a double standard when such acceptance is half-hazard, knowing that there will never be an effective Democratic practice where freedom of expression and human liberties are restricted or where the views and or opinions of mass majority are aggrandized by few people.
Please, for once, respond to this, as I know Jesus Christ would regardless if he thinks, which he would have never and will never thought so, that he is superior? He died for the poor, the week, the sick, the afflicted, the maimed, the abused, the helpless and the hopeless whom he gave hope.
Subject: Re: Which of these have been constantly violated here?
From: cornelius
To: All
Date Posted: 19:12:32 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
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bambay are you still in caliphornia and are you talking about kabila again?
j.j.was junior jesus.
just kidding b.b. small tofi with you
reading this print correctly: no matter what your arguments are
this is not a nudist website
Subject: Re: Which of these have been constantly violated here?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 20:50:43 10/29/06 ()
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Reason why I suggested that it be deleted and made apologies for it. Smile. So it shouldn't have even been an issue. Yes I still live in California but California don't make the man because morality is nothing more than costums and convictions of people around you. J.J. is one woman among billions.
Subject: Re: Which of these have been constantly violated here?
From: cornelius
To: All
Date Posted: 18:53:39 10/29/06 ()
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bambay are you still in caliphornia and are you talking about kabila again?
j.j.was junior jesus.
just kidding b.b. small tofi
Subject: Re: Which of these have been constantly violated here?
From: It has been a pleasure, bro.
To: All
Date Posted: 13:57:13 10/29/06 ()
Email Address: mozkamara@yahoo.com
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Message:
I see that you are trying to justify porn and convince the forum that it is acceptable by God, because He created both male and female naked; and you are demanding a response, with a mindset. Please permit me.
you’ve gone too far using the nudity of Adam and Eve coupled with the almighty God’s acceptance about their nakedness, as a liberty or an example to promote porn, which is really not too appropriate in this context, because God just created two people and immediately handed over the competencies to man, whom has effectively taken over the responsibility since, think about that and help convince yourself about who really validate or support porn, God or man?
Let me now clarify the nakedness of Adam and Eve, the role of God in addressing the situation form a biblical perspective, in Geneses chapter 3, it was Adam that called unto God from his hiding place and said that they were naked after having disobeyed God, in verse 21 after the disobedience followed the judgment, the Bible said that God created garments of skin and clothed both of them [ref: Holy Bible, Gen: Chapter 3].
I don’t know your level of godliness, but I don’t think that it is morally correct to justify displaying of naked women and men at public forums, the whole essence of civil liberty is to enable us ‘freely and responsibly’ use our discretion as long as it dose not interfere with the peace and wellbeing of others otherwise it becomes a public nuisance or any other offense punishable by law.
Here is a food for thought, are you a father, bro? If yes, what was your paternal role, i.e. responsible for medical bills, buying needed items, etc or were you just another donor? [I am not trying to embarrass you, please] if you do respond, please simply answer these questions. The answers will help you understand, appreciate and know that God or the ground rules of this forum or any other decent, respectable or democratic forum dose not allow displays of nudity or discussions that intends to stimulate erotic feeling.
I really hope the answers to your questions could be located in the above. It has been a pleasure.
Subject: Re: Which of these have been constantly violated here?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 20:28:01 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Greetings my brothers and sisters. It has been a pleasure, the pleasure
is mine (no, I do not mean the pleasure of watching celebrities naked.)
Smile. (Figure of speech.)
In your opening remark you stated: "I see that you are trying to justify
porn and convince the forum that it is acceptable by God, because He
created both male and female naked; and you are demanding a
response, with a mindset. Please permit me."
On the contrary, I am specifically questioning the practice of
democracy as pertaining to it's operation on this forum. In most
democratic settings, where the opinions of people who gather in those
settings, there are need for consensus through opinion pools. Thus if
the opinions of those who participate in such a setting are valued, the
laws made can be amended based on the wishes of those people and
trend of things acceptable and or valued within that time frame. As I
intimated in my posting, sorry typographical error occurred that
prevented me from thoroughly driving the nail home, I intended to
clear the air that I was not trying to persuade Rev. Kabs Kanu nor any
contributor who writes here to change his perception about nudity. I
stated, where the "not" is omitted, "Please note that I am asking for you
to change your perception about our nakedness because the idea of
inclusion is in-perceivable in such a setting, as you never took any
opinion pool to ascertain from your contributors, administering a
democratic fashion, to know what the majority thinks of such an idea?"
Therefore, it can be perceived that my intention was not to promote
porn but to see what your take is on democratic principles.
Furthermore, you stated, "you’ve gone too far using the nudity of
Adam and Eve coupled with the almighty God’s acceptance about their
nakedness, as a liberty or an example to promote porn, which is really
not too appropriate in this context, because God just created two
people and immediately handed over the competencies to man, whom
has effectively taken over the responsibility since, think about that and
help convince yourself about who really validate or support porn, God
or man?
Again, we are in a discussion forum, where all our efforts, as far as I
understand about the purpose of a forum, to discuss issues so as to
reach a common understanding, in which view, I raised the questions
so as to get feedback, which therefore, categorically pinpoints my
objective of fact-finding as oppose to the promotion of porn. Mind
you, we are not only writing for Sierra Leoneans, though by all
implications this forum is intended for people born in Sierra Leone or
those who are friends of Sierra Leone yet, many around the world have
got interest in visiting here, therefore, we are writing for the world over
that comprises various settings, some of which endorse nudity. That
does not necessarily mean that we have to accept it in this setting but
it will be democratically mindful to think of what the majority thinks.
In light of the above mentioned reasoning behind discussion forums
therefore, I would need a little clarification with regards to the above
quote, especially where you stated, "you’ve gone too far using the
nudity of Adam and Eve coupled with the almighty God’s acceptance
about their nakedness, as a liberty or an example to promote porn,
which is really not too appropriate in this context, because God just
created two people and immediately handed over the competencies to
man, whom has effectively taken over the responsibility since." What
exactly are you trying to drive home?
As it is narrated in the Bible, God created Adam and Eve, placed them
in the Garden of Eden and forbade them from eating fruits in the
center of the Garden of Eden. This in fact, eaten fruits in the center of
the garden, has been interpreted by many Biblical (Biblical nor to you)
and other analysts or pundits if you may, to mean in a sexual
connotation. That it was not fruits of a garden in the literal sense, but
that the garden itself is our body and that the two, Adam and Eve were
not permitted to have sex. The derivations of these pundits or school
of thought, if you may, is based on the fact that the punishments for
the t Eve to suffer during childbearing or labour. So some do ask why
would childbearing or labor during pregnancy be the punishment if
sex never occurred or related to the crime? So if their argument is
correct, then we know that God permitted their nakedness. But I will
only be able to digress better if you make clarifications. Again, I am not
promoting porn but allowing us to see various perspectives or points
of view and made adult decisions.
To respond to your statement, " think about that and help convince
yourself about who really validate or support porn, God or man?"
I would say, human lives are ran by laws. God gave Moses the Ten
Commandments that I posted in that link as a guide for all men to
abide by. If nudity is not part of the Commandments then I would like
to believe that God permits it. This can be supported by the fact that
when we are born into this world, we come naked and as it is believed
that God created us that way and brings us into this world naked, then
God condones it. There are Scientific explanations but it is fitting to
stay with God for the time being. Because most people cannot control
themselves, mankind decided to make nudity immorality so as to
prevent confusion. Noting therefore, that Adam and Eve were naked all
this time but did not take note until after they had eaten the fruits of
the garden. The ladies and gentlemen who are nude in what I posted,
Angelina Jollie, for example, is a United Nations Goodwill Ambassador
going from country to country educating and helping, are responsible
adults who are comfortable about their bodies, knowing that they can
teach a lesson or two about the human anatomical and physiological
make-up by showing their bodies. Science has developed because
they, Scientists have gone beyond the barriers that had prevented
meaningful cure, or production of medicines, in that most people are
ashamed of certain things that the same mankind (people) have
stereotyped and has caused lives. HIV/AIDS and other venereal
diseases will never have spread as it has, if these stereotypes are not
associated with human bodies. Many women in Africa, other Third
World countries and even advanced countries such as the United
States of America do not go to gynecologists, are not confortable with
their bodies, some have never gone to see one because of these
stereotypes associated with female bodies. They catch these diseases
and keep quiet about it and ultimately die from it. But when they see
celebrities who make millions of dollars, people such as Jenifer Lopez,
Nicole Kidman, Katie Holmes, Sharon Stone, Sandra Bullock, Patricia
Arquette, Amanda Peet, Jamime Pressly, Drew Barrymore to name a
few, these are world class people some of whom the women can look-
up because they contributted to the world years and are known all over
the world, from Africa to Asia, Europte, North, Central and Sought
America for years. So if they are not ashamed of their bodies, people
who are respected by the world can expose their bodies, the women
start learning that there is nothing to be ashamed of after all. You will
see how the minimization of some unnecessary deaths will reduce
among men and women.
Finally, in response to the following, "Here is a food for thought, are
you a father, bro? If yes, what was your paternal role, i.e. responsible
for medical bills, buying needed items, etc or were you just another
donor? [I am not trying to embarrass you, please] if you do respond,
please simply answer these questions. The answers will help you
understand, appreciate and know that God or the ground rules of this
forum or any other decent, respectable or democratic forum dose not
allow displays of nudity or discussions that intends to stimulate erotic
feeling."
Let me affirmatively say that I am a father to two beautiful daughters.
The one born by an African woman and the other by an American
Caucasian, whom herself is a college student as I speak. My lesson to
my children is, to never be egocentric and to never allow barriers
(stereotypes) to stop them from living life to the fullest. That not even
the sky is the limit. That they copy from the brightest and the best, to
be strong women who will contribute immensely and proudly towards
life through education and to have self-respect and or self-control. To
be honest to themselves, to do onto to others as they wish done on to
them. To always look for better avenues to increase their knowledge
about themselves, life and people of this world regardless of their
origin or gender because knowledge is power as a reason why the
above-mentioned women feel comfortable about their bodies because
know that hiding the private part or listening to the stereotypes will
and have never served to empower women, and is not what makes
civilized men respect a woman that men or women with self-control
who know more respects ones humanity towards another human more
than simple nudity.
Subject: Re: Which of these have been constantly violated here?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 20:47:17 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
The best lesson to my daughters is, never to be hypocrites. To never do things they will not accept or be proud to accept publicly that they can do, such as watching this while no one is around while God sees you but pretend you are not to gains favors with mankind or pretend not to want something but deep-down in your heart you are dieing to have it. You will be the eventual looser if you do. In First World countries fathers and mothers who are civilized or who know talk to their children about sex. We see it as being secretive.
Subject: ALLIE RAINBOW AGAIN
From: Forum Regular
To: All
Date Posted: 17:01:31 10/28/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Don't you think that Mr Rainbows pointers are food for thought?.....
Allie Rainbow Writes
"My Friend,
The Railway was phased at the behest of IMF and PL 480 Regimen was imposed to address the Foreign exchange crisis;
All the same,If Sierra leone Government were just following orders;So Why Blame Pa Sheki,Gen Momoh or any of our Leaders for policies that were whims
of international Institutions?..I encourage you to read Mohm jalloh's Articles and follow up with your own research!
In General,It is pathetic that there were Government Schools without basics like Chairs or Tables,however,the Government cannot bear all the responsibilities for the functioning of private Schools and institutions;
How many FBC or Njala graduates who were fortunate to recieve recieve free education in Sierra Leone Freely gave back something to the Republic of Sierra Leone?
I also wonder how much Taxes Sierra Leoneans Pay to the government or how much Money does the Titanium,Diamond,Gold and Agricultural Companies pay into Government coffers?
These are the Issues I urge that we boldly confront in the New Sierra leone instead of concerning ourselves with How many women our politicians are Sleepng with,or wether they are articulate in speaking the Queens English or not.
I am sure that the amount of taxes you have paid in the US is equivalent to more than ten times what Seventy Year Old Sierra Leoneans have paid to Sierra Leone Government their entire Lives...
I hope you get my drift(no offence intended here)..The issue I intend to expose is that most of the Sierra Leoneans who sit dowm and condemn our politicians,prefer
to Bribe Accountants and cashiers at Places like Electricity,Guma or sierratel,bribe instead of paying actual amount of Bills Due them;
My Point is that if the Government imposes a serious tax Regimen upon our Natural Rescources,and Collects every penny due for ParaStatal Services, Sierra leone
will definately become the Land of Milk and Honey we wish it to be."
Subject: Re: ALLIE RAINBOW AGAIN
From: Alagba
To: All
Date Posted: 19:32:38 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
You Are Correct Allie!
Leadership is by Example, but How can the Blind Lead the Blind?
Understanding that The Same People Who Condemn Malfeasance on this Forum are the The Same ones prone to bribe Customs Officials instead of paying actual tarriffs levied on Jeeps and other Luxury items they take(import) into Sierra leone, is also quite Worrisome!. Bra Sa Lone Man Deep! But Bra Let's keep hope Alive that It Will Become Better.
Subject: Re: ALLIE RAINBOW AGAIN
From: Alie Formeh Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:44:13 10/28/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
The railway was an immense financial liability to Sierra Leone. Only people like John Leigh and ofcourse Sengbe would not know that. The APC government under His Excellency Dr. Siaka Probyn Stevens knew that.
The Sierra Leone railway was the oldest railway ever built in Africa. The British needed the railway so that they can secure the protectorate from advancing French and German colonialists. They needed it to transport large numbers of troups to the hinterland when necessary. Unfortunately, shortly after it's construction production of railways with 2'6" gauges were stopped and railways with 4ft guages began. The railway that was later constructed in Nigeria was a modern railway by the standards of those times.
The Sierra Leone railway survived since the late 1800's until it's demise in the late 1960's. It had become extinct and parts were difficult to get. It had to go. The SLPP Government was not mature enough politically to make that difficult decision. They allowed politics to cloud there judgement.
Subject: Re: ALLIE RAINBOW AGAIN
From: Siaka Stevens
To: All
Date Posted: 19:23:11 10/28/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
UMG Country Profile
State Department country profile: Sierra-Leone
In 1979, President Stevens' popularity began to ebb as a result of worsening living conditions, growing inflation, authoritarian measures, government corruption, a fall in exports and the increasing foreign debt.
Popular unrest reached its climax in September 1981 when the Sierra Leone Labor Congress (SLLC) declared a general strike, demanding immediate changes in economic policy. The strike spread throughout the country and nearly toppled the Government, which had to make several concessions.
In urban areas, the scarcity of staple foods - particularly rice - as well as periodic fuel shortages became chronic. Inflation and the high cost of living reduced the purchasing power of salaried workers by 60 per cent, and the late payment of salaries became normal. Members of parliament were paid with sacks of rice which were later sold on the black market at a large profit.
The powerful Lebanese traders controlled the unofficial market and more than 70 per cent of the country’s exports. Gold and diamond smuggling was estimated at nearly $150 million per year while official exports dropped from $80 million to barely $14 million between 1980 and 1984.
In November 1985, Syaka Stevens handed over the presidency to Joseph Momoh, a member of his cabinet, changing nothing in the political and social condition of the country.
The scale of the crisis culminated in the Government's declaration of a state of economic emergency in 1987. This measure included granting the State the sole right to commercialize gold and diamonds, a 15 per cent surcharge on imports, and the reduction of salaries of public employees.
In March 1991, rebel forces operating from Liberia occupied two border towns. Guerrilla groups from Burkina Faso, Liberia, and Sierra Leone joined them, occupying one third of the country.
A referendum approved held in August a new constitution establishing a multiparty system. However, the economic crisis continued alongside ever increasing corruption.
Subject: Re: ALLIE RAINBOW AGAIN
From: PARLIAMENTARIAN
To: All
Date Posted: 19:26:36 10/28/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
"Inflation and the high cost of living reduced the purchasing power of salaried workers by 60 per cent, and the late payment of salaries became normal. Members of parliament were paid with sacks of rice which were later sold on the black market at a large profit."
Wow, they use to pay us with rice bags? A bag of rice was our slary in those days. Oh we slone nr bin place
Subject: Re: ALLIE RAINBOW AGAIN
From: Siaka Stevens
To: All
Date Posted: 18:55:55 10/28/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Only people like you Formeh, are failing to see the mess Stevens created in salone. You are so politically blind that you will hail such a man who brought that nation to it knees. The civil service, academic system, and all other important services were destroyed by this man and your APC. Sierra-Leone became the most useless country on earth in 1989(under your APC, and before the war). We had the highest mortality rate in 1989. Connaught hospital was a no go area, as it was a death trap, thanks to Stevens and your APC.
We use to form long lines in the late 80's just to purchase rice. Rice was sold from State house, and in most cases consumers who were not supportive of that tyrannical regime were denied a bag of rice even though they had the money. For a man that is so politically blind not to see all of this but keep praising a tyrant and the destroyer of that nation sickens me. What a nation indeed.
Subject: Re: ALLIE RAINBOW AGAIN
From: Alie Formeh Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 06:17:16 10/29/06 ()
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Message:
To my learned freind Sengbe (the self professed soon to be Nobel laureate):
Do not be blind to the realities of yesterday that shaped the present.
There were difficult times for sure because we were learning the tools of the trade.
Emphasize the good things for those were blessings forming the very foundation for our tomorrow.
The great 'Siaka' was the profound and distinguished African liberator who fought hard to create Bridges that we cross today.
Give praises where praises are due.
Here are two examples of bridges to the future His Excellency Dr. Siaka Probyn Stevens helped build:
On October 3, 1973 a declaration was made by the President of Sierra Leone and the President of Liberia to establish a firm economic foundation for lasting peace, freindship, freedom and social progress between the two countries. Thus the creation of THE MANOR RIVER UNION.
On May 28, 1975, His Excellency, Dr. Siaka Probyn Stevens joined other members of the West African Community to sign a treaty establishing ECOWAS.
Here is an exerpt from the speech of the President at the signing of the above treaty for the formation of ECOWAS:
"...We are told somewhere in the pages of ancient religious history that a group of fishermen went out to fish all day but could not make a single catch. On returning to harbour they met a great teacher who asked them why they looked so sad. They replied that they had been out all day but had caught nothing, and the teacher said to them 'cast your nets where you are'. They cast their nets just where they were and succeeded in hauling a larger quantity of fish. I quote this little episode because I believe that that is needed in Africa today - to cast our nets where we are, in the field of economic development as well as in other fields."
Subject: Re: ALLIE RAINBOW AGAIN
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 14:13:15 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
But A lie Formeh Kamara, why are you addressing your response "To my learned freind Sengbe (the self professed soon to be Nobel laureate):"?
I have NEVER posted as "Siaka Stevens" on this forum. Even the poster using this moniker has attested to this fact.
Do you apc boys see Sengbe in every post on this forum?
Have I counteracted your politics to the extent that you guys see me in your dreams - politically - even when you are asleep?
Is this a new apc tactic? To tell lies about your opponents, as you are apt to do when the emptiness in your politricks is exposed?
These are the same LYING TACTICS used to ascend your party to the leadership role in 1967, and throughout your nearly thirty-years of gross national misrule. Your apc fathers did so then, and now, you the children have grown up to emulate your apc fathers.
Is this progress on y'alls part (ebonics)?
The fact that "y'alls" have not changed one bit over a span of nearly forty years means that your apc party is INCAPABLE of leading that nation of ours in the future, and beyond, based on your disgraceful dismal record in a leadership role of that country.
And I held you in such high esteem. I am so disappointed A lie Formeh.
For the very last time: Sengbe is Sengbe!! Not Nancy Jusu; not Conteh, not kamara; not Predator; not any other moniker you guys may want to concoct. I am Sengbe, the one and only.
BTW, when I win that Prize, I will remember you for being a gentleman - in the past.
Such LIES!!!
apc nar lie man party.
I am so sorry my cousin Victor is their Secretary-General. I apologize to the people of Sa Lon on his behalf.
Eh bo!!!! Why una tan so ba????
Subject: Re: ALLIE RAINBOW AGAIN
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 07:08:33 10/30/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
"Do you apc boys see Sengbe in every post on this forum? "
there aint no BOYS on this forum skunk. We are all men thats what you need to get into u=your dog looking face and bicycle seat shaped head.
Subject: Re: ALLIE RAINBOW AGAIN
From: Siaka Stevens
To: All
Date Posted: 08:00:07 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Alie,
This is not Sengbe.Your APC and Siaka Stevens were a disater for salone. Stevens destroyed our sweet salone. To see a man like you praising him tells me that you are politically blind. A man who destroyed every fibre of our society is not worthy of any praise.You and your Siaka Stevens are responsible for the mess we find ourselves today in that country.
Subject: Re: ALLIE RAINBOW AGAIN
From: Allie Rainbow
To: All
Date Posted: 11:16:51 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 205.134.0.39
Message:
Considering that Under Siaka Stevens Sierra Leone Controlled the and majority of Stocks in Diamond,Titanium and other Natural Rescource Companies,Is your SLPP not responsible for giving away the Lion Share to Questionable Foreigners Today?
In my estimation,stealing from the coffers(a condition that can be reversed by good leadership) is not the same as giving away the coffers
Subject: Re: ALLIE RAINBOW AGAIN
From: Klepto Of All Maniacs
To: All
Date Posted: 11:41:29 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 205.134.0.39
Message:
Romanian buys more Sierra Leone Diamonds shares From SLPP Phantoms and the SLPP Blogger who calls himself Siaka Stevens Knows who made the Deal!
Jul 22, 2005, 17:16
Discuss This Article With Others
A Press Release issued in Bermuda late Wednesday evening states that the Romanian refugee, Mr. Vasile Frank Timis has acquired an extra 500,000 shares of the Sierra Leone Diamond Company Ltd (SLDC). The nature of the transaction was not clearly stated in the Press Release. However, the percentage of issued class acquired by Timis now ensures that Timis controls almost 31% of the company’s shares and is the confirmed Majority shareholder.
Speaking in an exclusive interview with Awareness Times over the telephone from London yesterday, Mr. Martin Dunham, the Chief Financial Officer of SLDC confirmed that Mr. Frank Timis indeed purchased the extra 500,000 shares but that he was not at liberty to explain to Awareness Times newspaper exactly from whom the shares were bought by the Romanian Businessman....GO ASK THE BATO LINER WHO CALLS HIMSELF SIAKA STEVENS HE KNOWS WHO SOLD SIERRA LEONE MINEFIELDS!
A Romanian refugee, Mr. Timis set up three firms in London: Regal Petroleum, European Goldfields and Sierra Leone Diamond Corporation. However, few weeks ago, Mr. Timis became embattled by shareholders following his admission that Regal Petroleum’s key Greek oil operation may never be commercially viable and serious allegations that Mr. Timis has been named in three separate criminal investigations in Romania. Although Romanian officials and Mr. Timis himself denied the allegations, Timis was then forced to resign from Regal Petroleum although he still retains his position as Chairman and Head of Sierra Leone Diamond Company Limited. SLDC trades on the London Stock Exchange (AIM). Its profile on Yahoo International Financial Pages states that "Sierra Leone Diamond Company (SLDC), formerly Africa Diamond Holdings, just wants to get a hold of the precious gem."
Here in Sierra Leone, SLDC is indeed getting a hold of the precious gems. The company states that its mineral licences cover the entire northern third of the country including the area to the north and east of the known Koidu diamondiferous kimberlite field at Yengema, the newly discovered Kamakwie diamond field in the northwest of the country, the southwestern area of the country adjacent to the coastal plain and the lower half of the Sewa River area. The Company’s 20 mineral licences and one optioned licence covers a total area of 36,364 square kilometres. The licences are prospective for both primary diamond sources, such as kimberlite pipes and dykes, and secondary diamonds in alluvial deposits, swamps and lake sediments. Numerous other commodities including gold, iron ore, rutile, bauxite, and base metals occur within the licence areas.
The Romanian, Vasile Frank Timis is the major controller of all of this wealth.
Subject: KABS, CAN YOU STOP THE RUDENESS NOW
From: SIAKA STEVENS
To: All
Date Posted: 16:33:31 10/28/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Kabs,
Can you tell the clowns that are messing up this forum to quit? Why the silence on your part? These guys are pathetic. Please put a stop to their rubbish. Enough is enough. Why do Sierra-Leoneans always attack personalities? Let us talk about issues, my friends.
Subject: Re: KABS, CAN YOU STOP THE RUDENESS NOW
From: No Presidential Monikers Please
To: All
Date Posted: 16:56:29 10/28/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Who is the Clown? Someone using the name of a former president as his Moniker is the Clown indeed?
When will this nonsense end? When another Person begin using the name of President Kabba,Berewa or Charles Margai as their Monikers?
Moderator and Kabs Please Do something Now!
Subject: Re: KABS, CAN YOU STOP THE RUDENESS NOW
From: Mirror
To: All
Date Posted: 16:38:25 10/28/06 ()
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"Why do Sierra-Leoneans always attack personalities?"
You should know, Koker -- that is your speciality in the field of rudeness.
No one attacked personalities on cocorioko until you returned from your exile that your rudeness had caused you to be sent to. Of course, you immediately attacked your betters.
Now, you start crying and complaining. I say, Koker, act like a man! If you can abuse people, you should be able to avopid crying when they expose your rudeness.
Subject: NASSIT TO CONSTRUCT TALLEST BUILDING IN SALONE
From: GOOD WORK
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Date Posted: 13:01:22 10/28/06 ()
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The Project Consultants for the construction of the NASSIT Headquarters, The Pension Tower, have presented the design of the building to the Director General and Senior Management Staff of NASSIT at the Trust’s Board Room, 35A Lightfoot Boston Street, in Freetown.
Subject: Re: NASSIT TO CONSTRUCT TALLEST BUILDING IN SALONE
From: Paul Bangura
To: All
Date Posted: 15:39:18 10/30/06 ()
Email Address: paul.bangs2020@yahoo.com
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In this era of world development, NASSIT is building a tall building. My friend refers to it as,"GOOD WORK." Yes! good work indeed. We are beginning to have the Manhattan buildings in Freetown. BRAVO! NASSIT. Another misplaced priority! Do we need tall buildings for Headquarters? Oh, you know what, I forgot that Bunbuna is on the way and there would be light to take the workers and visitors by elevators to the 51st floor. FOOOOOOLLLLL! That's how we measure our development, by the number of tall buildings. Tall buildings, no water, no good roads to the provinces, bad salaries in most places. Give that building ten days after it would have been erected and officially opened to the public, it would be the most abused building in the subregion, if not the world. I only hope they would not abuse it the way they abused Youyi Building, with YOUKY-YOUKY style, carpet go! Winda blind den go, Fallah woman nar office, en gee the building bad luck! Watch them, before that building would have been completed, plenty go build for denself. UNA WATCH DEM O. Ar know say Papa Minister sef get inyone cut pan dae NISSIT building koppoh!
Development is not tall buildings; and worse still we cannot maintain them. We would have preferred the low building for headquarter with good salaries for all workers, not just Nassit workers. But we are all aware of the lack of maintenance culture in that culture.
When the Chinese came to rehabilitate the stadium and Youyi Building, they couldn't identify them, because of the bad handling. They could have charged for bad handling but they were very generous and friendly because of the Chinese word, "YOUYI".Hey Hey, another hole open, NASSIT TALL BUILDING!!!
BRAVO NASSIT! DON'T GIVE UP. JUST GO AHEAD AN BUILD.IT WILL BE A FACE LIFT. WE GO TAKE PICTURE FRONT DAE; LEK WAE WE SABI POSE SO.
Subject: Re: NASSIT TO CONSTRUCT TALLEST BUILDING IN SALONE
From: apc
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Date Posted: 13:08:28 10/28/06 ()
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Good, the APC laid the foundation and groundwork for Nassit to be what it is today. These policies were formulatted by the then APC government. Even the hillside bypass road project that is due to start soon was formulated by the APc. The APC party is full of problem solvers and wise thinkers. We think ahead and plan for the future.
Subject: Re: NASSIT TO CONSTRUCT TALLEST BUILDING IN SALONE
From: ok dok
To: All
Date Posted: 14:51:25 10/28/06 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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Political fanatic like you.SLPP started it far back the days of Albert.
Subject: Re: NASSIT TO CONSTRUCT TALLEST BUILDING IN SALONE
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 18:01:07 10/28/06 ()
Email Address: Saigobe@lanset.com
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Do we really need these tall buildings? Who is paying for them? Are there local construction firms do the constructions? Do we have to pay foreigners to do the work? Who owns the construction companies?
Can we think outside the box to come up with alternate ways to meet our needs?
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 12:55:17 10/28/06 ()
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Dem don cuss me Mammy wae die instantly nar motor car accident with four orda peeple dem on the highway to Freetong nar mile 49 long befoe dem discover AIDS nar dis dunia. All becus we tell the truth for warn some man dem for mend dem bad nasty habit for dem yone good.
Well, bad nor dae. Ar nor go reciprocate, becus of the love ehn respect wae ar go always geh for me yone Mammy.
If some peeple bin geh dar kine love ehn respect for dem yone Mammi, dem nor bin for cuss orda porsin yone Mammy, ehn tell abominable lies pan ahm. Porsin wae dem nor ever meet nar dem life.
Ar lef ahm gee Papa God.
The preamble is over.
I read somewhere on the forum that the "SLPP did not end the war".
This is quite true.
The SLPP, as a political Party did not single-handedly end the eleven-year internecine war in Sa Lon.
But the SLPP-led GoSL did. No question about that. We should all agree on this fact.
I believe that His Excellency, Mr. John E. Leigh, has already made this clarification.
Why are they still arguing about this fact?
We all know that external players were involved in initiating the war in the first place. Why should it then be inconceivable that external players would cajole / coerce us (our SLPP-led GoSL) into suing for peace?
It is quite possible that the same players that helped to forment the brutality for eleven years are the same ones that cajoled, or coerced the possibility of the peace process.
It is also quite possible that different players served these functions differently.
Who really knows?
I don't know.
But I know for a fact that the SLPP was NOT leading the GoSL when the war was waged in March of 1991.
It was a ONE-PARTY-led GoSL called the APC, nicknamed the AKARTA PEOPLES CONGRESS, that had been leading the governance of Sa Lon for twenty-five years before being overthrown in 1992 by a bunch of saro sojas so young that they were indulged in many bad habits commonly found in kids of their own age (and one grown-up on this forum, perhaps). Anyway, they did NOT even have to fire a shot, for Josephine, the apc leader at that time absconded to La Guinee on a borrowed helicopter. He came back to Saro when JPK, his boy, sent for him in 1997, when Tamba Gborie (or Gborlie, rightfully-speaking)allowed the latter to usurp their throne after the afrc coup d'etat in 1997. Josephine stayed in Saro for sometime serving the afrc boys in an advisory capacity - the apc shadow force behind the afrc brutality. He, as in the mode of Sisyphus, was caught dressed as an ugly woman trying to escape when the Brothers, loyal RSLAF, and ECOMOG, recaptured the seat of power from the "coupligans", and their maggotty friends in the "peoples army".
This brief historical precis ought to serve as the back-drop to the essential questions:
What Political Party made it possible for the brutal internecine war to be waged and fought amongst Sa Lonians for eleven bloody years? And why?
In my candid opinion, if the party in power in an UNDEMOCRATIC state at that time, had done well in the fair treatment of the peoples of the nation, and the nation herself, the war would never have been waged, and Foday Laimpay would have met his maker as an old photographer who had resided peacefully in Bo, and Segbwema with his family and his Mende in-laws for many years.
I submit to all and sundry that the APC made it possible for the war to be waged in the first place.
The SLPP-led GoSL has made it possible for the existence of peace in Sa Lon.
That is the truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me GOD.
Will y'all allow the apc to rule again in forgiveness?
I don't think so.
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: cornelius
To: All
Date Posted: 04:51:14 10/29/06 ()
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Sengbe,
Nobody has a RIGHT to talk to you or treat you this way, even if his name is Alieu - you are after all praying to the Almighty to shower blessings on your motherland.
Some of these guys who think that they have a lot of power ( and money) don't have any power at all.
About the price of waging and ending the Sierra Leone civil war, JOHN LANSANA MUSA has been an ocean of critical knowledge and insight into the various phases of the eleven year conflict.
I miss his prolific output, although it's not possible to always agree with even the most mortally infallible.
If I remember correctly, in the course of one of the Leonenet debates ( when John is around it's debate time) he did review someone's masters or doctoral thesis which concluded that the RUF won the war or at least that the government did not, and this was not only a matter of party or ethnic-based opinion.
The war is uncomfortably behind us. There should be no further scores to settle. We all have suffered from the violence in thought, word, and deed. Now it’s everyone’s duty to rebuild a once battered nation. Remember the Seven National Values. Bickering and more prolonged post mortems is more like the tower of Babel and not very helpful.
Respect to all –
Cornelius
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: cornelius
To: All
Date Posted: 03:43:32 10/29/06 ()
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Nobody has a RIGHT to talk to you or treat you this way, even if his name is Alieu - you are after all praying to the Almighty to shower blessings on your motherland.
Some of these guys who think that they have a lot of power ( and money) don't have any power at all.
About the price of waging and ending the Sierra Leone civil war, JOHN LANSANA MUSA has been an ocean of critical knowledge and insight into the various phases of the eleven year conflict.
I miss his prolific output, although it's not possibly to always agree with even the mortally infallible.
If I remember correctly, in the course one of the Leonenet debates ( when John is around it's debate time) he did review someone's maters or doctoral thesis which concluded that the RUF won the war or at least that the government did not, and this was not only a matter of party or ethnic based opinion
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 14:32:06 10/28/06 ()
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Message:
SENGBE,
Wasn't there another accident in 1970 involving a KOKER ? He left the SLPMB Quarters at Bo Reservation , for Freetown and they got into an accident on the way . I was living at the same Reservation then, close infact to the SLPMB Quarters . Did your parents lose their lives in separate accidents ? Please refresh my memory. My mind is fuzzy.
I am sorry for the insult on your late mother.
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 15:09:34 10/28/06 ()
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Reverend Kanu, that was my mother in that accident in 1970. That was the only accident one of my parents was involved in. My father died peacefully in his sleep in 1982.
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 15:28:57 10/28/06 ()
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Thanks, Professor. Now it is clear to me. It is a small world indeed. I remember that accident. Anyway, they are in a better place now. Be comforted.
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 15:49:14 10/28/06 ()
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Thanks for the kind words, Reverend Kanu.
The people will now know that there are some folks on this forum who are totally incapable of writing, or speaking the truth, in general.
To score political points, and in their effort to wiggle their sordid public reputation out of the muddy depths they have dug for themselves by their irrational actions, they will go to any lengths to defame others. But the people are wide awake. They will surely not succumb to such tactless uncivilized impropriety.
I don't really know if the guilty party or parties would be able to positively redeem such sordidness in their reputation, no matter how cunningly they try to associate with good folks like CFM, and Bra JEL. We know the TRUTH about these idle mongrels.
Ehn the truth, nar ihm dae last.
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: M. Alieu Iscandari
To: All
Date Posted: 10:49:20 10/29/06 ()
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"I don't really know if the guilty party or parties would be able to positively redeem such sordidness in their reputation, no matter how cunningly they try to associate with good folks like CFM, and Bra JEL. We know the TRUTH about these idle mongrels."
If this quote in anyway references me , I must say that I do have an incredible amount of respect for John leigh even though he is a a member of a party that has FAILED its national mandate. I respect John Leigh because he stood for sierra Leone when sierra leone needed him. I cannot say that about your tribalistic rump. John Leigh has EARNED my respect. have YOU?
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: Mirror
To: All
Date Posted: 15:59:18 10/28/06 ()
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"They will surely not succumb to such tactless uncivilized impropriety."
Koker, don't you realize you are describing your own very rude behavior on cocorioko? Ah, but I forget that you do not understand what you write, whether in Krio or English! Hehehehehheh
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: COWARD
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Date Posted: 15:55:44 10/28/06 ()
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"We know the TRUTH about these idle mongrels." Koker
SO, KOKER, ARE YOU SUCH A COWARD THAT YOU ARE AFRAID TO NAME THE PERSONS YOU RUDELY CALL "MONGRELS?"
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: M. Alieu Iscandari esq
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Date Posted: 10:26:22 10/29/06 ()
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I am not going to get involved in this fray unless and until I am forced to get in and then I will start by telling Koker the circumstances of his birth. Then.... welll I dont need to say anymore, he knows who he is dealing with. I am ready to debate issues and if it comes down to being low down and nasty, well I am from foulah town and thats all you need to know because I can get down ther real quick. I am the doctor of quick fixes and I do know how to cure genetic insanity from any one.
I have tried to stay away from all of this nonsense because it is counter productive. I have been accused of using other names to insult Koker but I think in his heart he knows that I am probably the only ine here who will use my name to call his mother names. Koker wants to insult and defamme me on this forum, well I am ready. Kabbs may have to close the damn forum because Kabs' forum police and forum intelligence let Koker get away with insulting other people and defaming them and when they fight back, they become victims of Kabs' moderator, forum police and forum intelligence. Seems like someone is enjoying this bull shit but I am not. It hurts me every time I have to say something NASTY to Koker but he deserves it ALL the time.
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 13:41:44 10/29/06 ()
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"...It hurts me every time I have to say something NASTY to Koker but he deserves it ALL the time..." alieu iscandari
Does it really? Do I really? Then why continue doing so? Why continue the lies about me, and my parentage? Why continue defaming my parents - people you never met in your lifetime? What right have you got in this world to make disparaging remarks about my birth when you don't even know me? Is someone feeding you those lies about me?
If it really hurts you to write such rubbish about me, that I quite well know that you do not believe yourself, then you must be rushed to the emergency room at the nearest hospital in Heyward, CA, for an observation, because it must be that you are truly sick - physically, mentally, psychologically, etc., etc.
You come from the same Foulah Tong that Prof Sidi Alghali hails from. Please ask him about my parentage,
and the home I was raised in. He resided in Jimmi Bagbo, as a kid going to Primary School with me and my elder brother. He knows on a firsthand basis where I come from.
I have NEVER told a blatant lie about you on this forum. Alpha Saidu Bangura, the erstwhile ward of your own parents, has attested to the revelation about you, and so have many of your close friends / acquaintances in the Bay Area. I guess he had hoped that by revealing this unbecoming behaviour publicly, it would somehow force you to seek the help he deems neccessarily fit for you. If you are really as smart as you claim to be then you would heed his latent advice / warning to you. Anyway, I'd no longer make that aspect my business, only to point out to all and sundry the reason for the blatant irrationality in your lying and rude behaviour toward me.
Why haven't you sued me, if I have/had written anything disparagingly untrue about you? You claim to be a lawyer. You must be conversant with the grounds on which to stand on for the purposes of litigation. So, please sue me, if I have done you wrong in this regard.
It is really foolish, childish, and downright rude to be writing things about me you know in your heart of hearts that are untrue. You are NOT hurting me in anyway, you are really just hurting yourself, according to Biblical and Koranic doctrines. I know whom I am. My friends, and acquiantances know whom I am. And you too know whom I am through your investigations about me. You merely twist the facts / truthfulness in these investigations in your vain attempt to publicly humiliate me. But you will NEVER succeed, due to the outrageousness in your uncouth cynical outburts relative to me, Sengbe. It is on record that you have done this to the Reverend too - calling his dear father a "kaka-bailer", etc. And to some other folks, since you came on-line participating in these fora six years ago. I have ALL of the documented records to prove my case in a court of law if you are so inclined to sue me. I will not need a Defense Counsel for this purpose. The stark evidence will be presented in a prima facie fashion.
I am SLPP, and Mende. I will remain so even in death. Nothing is going to change that. If that is the problem you have with me, to incite these hateful outburts against me, then that is just too bad. I am not going to change politically, or ethnically. You are gonna hate me for a long time to come. I will NOT satisfy your desire.
As far as the other two guys are concerned, they can continue to wallow in their stupid diatribes against me too. I wonder why they never use their usual monikers in so doing. To use or state the words "QUACK" and "WOROKE" relative to them is neither demeaning nor tribalistic based on their negative attitude toward me on this forum.
I will no longer respond to the three of you directly - the other two know themselves.
The Forum Intelligence, the Forum Police, and the rest of the forumites, and the Peepers, are now very familiar with your modus operandi. So continue to wallow in your collective foolishness. Sengbe ain't goin' nowhere.
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq.
To: All
Date Posted: 14:37:54 10/29/06 ()
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Message:
"...It hurts me every time I have to say something NASTY to Koker but he deserves it ALL the time..."
I STAND STRONGLY BEHIND THE STATEMENT BUT THE TRUTH ALSO IS THAT I DONT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YOUR PARENTAGE AND I HAVE NOTHING TO ASK SIDI ALGHALI ABOUT. GO TAKE A RUNNING JUMP INTO THE OCEAN. SKUNK
I dont give a hoot about your parentage or your upbringing. You started the mud slinging first. You could have come onto the forum and used your brilliance to stir on some worthy debates on the issues affecting sierra leone. Dissapointly however, your return to the forum has created a more volatile forum, because you have chosen to come back with your usual vile put down of other people and their families, because they do not agree with your selected political positions, which in most case defy reason and objectivity.
You do not know me, and have never met me but you have dared to put out in the public domain misrepresentations about my character on matters of which you are not privy. You ask why havent I sued you? Dont tempt me Koker dont. Just like I exposed you to the public for being the half assed rat that you are, I WILL sue you and take your money but is it worth my time? thats the issue. I would not file a lawsuit to make a point I would find more effective ways to make my point and I bet you my last dollar you are starting to feel the pinch. If I were you brother I would lay off and let your brilliance shine because so far your rear end does not look like its doing your reputation any good.
For example your attacks on different people on this forum most notably Mohm Jalloh and Curtis are almost always unwarranted, and unpriviledged. Rather than being a leader on this forum and one who generates interesting and intellectual debates on genuine issues, you pride your rotten ass on being the bane of the forum and think that you are so popular. What you do not know is that many people on this forum are laughing at this debacle that you have started on this forum.
I am sure that after the last nasty interraction that we had, your Uncle Kenny had poken to you about being civil to people on the forum. Your Uncle called me and sent me mail apparently taking your side as most family members were wont to do. After I mailed him the archived mposts that you had mentioned about me, He was so aghast at the fact that a grown man of your educational stature and age could be so stoopid as to write all of those curse words, INDICATIVE OF SOMEONE WITH A "tOURETTES SYNDROME" wELL IFF YOU THINK YOU GOT ONE, lOOK OUT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MAY BE WORSE THAN YPOU. nOW FOR THE LAST TIME i AM ASKING YOU KINDLY TO LAY OFF ME IF YOU DONT THEY ,MAY HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN THIS FORUM.
YA DIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: Ahmed
To: All
Date Posted: 15:05:53 10/29/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Allieu said,"nOW FOR THE LAST TIME i AM ASKING YOU KINDLY TO LAY OFF ME IF YOU DONT THEY ,MAY HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN THIS FORUM."
I hope and pray that in the spirit of reconciliation this would be the last exchange between you two on non-salient issues.Both of you given your educational background and age should be pacesetters on this forum but to condescend to a primitive level leaves much to be desired.We the up and coming are now looking upon you to provide leadership on this forum,let bygones be bygones.
I want both of you to promise me that you would never initiate any derogatory posts against each other on this forum.LET PEACE REIGN AND MAY GOD BLESS YOU TWO FOR TKING THE MORAL HIGH GROUND.
Subject: For Allieu and Sengbe
From: Ahmed
To: All
Date Posted: 11:48:53 10/29/06 ()
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Message:
Look here Mr.Man,this forum is bigger than you and Koker.Please cut out all the rudeness and vulgarities.You guys claim to be educated but your behavior on this forum depicts you as spineless wimps.There are many important issues to be debated other than Koker's parentage or Allieu's alleged drug addiction.
In the interest of civility,I am appealing to you to debate legitimate issues like the upcoming elections in Salone.This is the time you should be picking apart the presidential aspirants as the future of Sierra Leone as a nation state,I think,rest on that elections.
Please,please,please cut it out....cut out the tribalism,tit for tatness,egocentric attitudes,conceitedness.
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 16:04:57 10/28/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Since you are so "smart", in speaking/writing krio and English, you ought to be able to identify those "idle mongrels" your damned self. But alas! you density overrides your empty verbosity as all can see.
Is your name really "COWARD" as portrayed in your moniker? It must be.
Sengbe ain't no coward. He merely wants to participate in civilized discourse. Are you willing to do so?
Sengbe will use his superior intellect to override and overcome your stupidity/irrationality at all times.
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: Teacher
To: All
Date Posted: 16:26:00 10/28/06 ()
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"But alas! you density overrides your empty verbosity as all can see."
Koker, you have been told before not to try to write in English before you finally pass "O" Level English exam! But, alas, you are as stubborn as you are rude!
For your information, it is illiterate to use the word "density" in your following illiterate sentence: "But alas! you density overrides your empty verbosity as all can see."
Had you been capable of writing in proper English, you would have known that there is a big difference between "density" and denseness -- the correct usage of the term in your illiterate sentence.
Since you obviously are not aware that you are an illiterate English writer, you would be forgiven for exposing yourself as not knowing the meaning of "superior intellect." If you did, you would never refer to yourself as such!
Tchai, Koker, you too "tuppit"
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: SIAKA STEVENS
To: All
Date Posted: 16:30:06 10/28/06 ()
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Message:
Look Mohm J and Alieu, you guys should quit this nonsense. You guys are in your late 40's to early 50's. Stop this rudeness now guys. Ayt bo, we gainse
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: Koker Stop
To: All
Date Posted: 16:32:24 10/28/06 ()
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Koker, you are almost 60 years old. Stop hiding behind the late president's name to abuse innocent people.
Did your folks never teach you to respect your elders, even if you old, but they are older than you?
Or, to respect the dead?
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: Siaka Stevens
To: All
Date Posted: 16:36:15 10/28/06 ()
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Message:
My friend, I am admonishing you again to quit this nonsense.Please stop, me man. You are too old for this crap. Let us please talk about issues. Stop attacking other people. Do not take this place to the gutters. we are pleading with you to stop. Ay bo, ee do so now. Enough is enough. What are you fighting for? Why my fellow Sierra-Leoneans?
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: Mirror
To: All
Date Posted: 16:40:40 10/28/06 ()
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"My friend, I am admonishing you again to quit this nonsense.Please stop, me man."
Koker, admonish yourself. Once you stop your rudeness, there will be no rudeness on cocorioko -- until you start your rudeness again. Or your tribalistic rants.
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: CADMUS
To: All
Date Posted: 16:09:30 10/28/06 ()
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Sengbe,please leave the chief alone.He is bugging you with names such as mirror,coward and Joker Koker.Can't you relise that this is the chief himself.
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 16:25:29 10/28/06 ()
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Cadmus, "Chief"?
What "Chief"???
I realized a long time ago that it was either him, or two other nemesis of mine on this forum.
They are not men of any substance. They'd like to validate their being on this forum by stealthily associating with people of stature in a cunning way, thereby giving them a certificate of some sort of recognition / respectability. But they will not do so in the "open" so they use absurd monikers.
They are such cowardly WEAKLINGS - in mind and in body.
May God have mercy on them.
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: Teacher
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Date Posted: 16:50:03 10/28/06 ()
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" realized a long time ago that it was either him, or two other nemesis of mine on this forum."
Koker, the plural of "nemesis" (that means tow or more, for your information) is NOT nemesis.
I admonish you to stop assassinating the English language, Koker!
Tachai
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: Priest
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Date Posted: 16:28:40 10/28/06 ()
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"May God have mercy on them"
Koker, methinks you should praying for yourself, not others who are the inocent victims of your rude and crude tribalistic rants! Hehehehehhe
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 14:55:54 10/28/06 ()
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This is an insult to me too.I come from Limba Bagbo and we love that wounderful woman of the koker here .So please mr writer just keep off from such article.Dont remind us about what we know .
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: IDIOT
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Date Posted: 10:52:19 10/29/06 ()
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DID YOU FEEL SIMILAR UNBRAGE WHEN KOKER WAS INSULTING ISCANDARI AND CALLING HIM A DRUG ADDICT? DID YOU POST AND ASK KOKER TO STOP? I UNDERSTAND IF YOU FEEL INSULTED BUT KOKER BROUGHT IT UPON HIMSELF THE BASTARD.
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 16:11:10 10/28/06 ()
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ok dok, my brother or sister from Limba Bagbo, are you a Koroma, Kamara, Kawa, or Smith? These are common surnames from that town.
I am just curious.
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 18:18:58 10/28/06 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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I am ISSA KOROMA the son of late PA SALLU KOROMA and you whats your actual name and the sister you mentioned?
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 18:38:28 10/28/06 ()
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My real name has been mentioned here, under this thread, several times by my detractors.
I did not know whether "ok dok" is a male or female that is why I mentioned "brother" or "sister" "from Limba Bagbo". Now that you've mentioned your real name, I know you are a man, and not a woman. No harm intended. I was just curious.
I know Pa Sallu Koroma, and other Koromas from Limba. We are all brothers from the same chiefdom. That is all.
Please take care!
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 19:22:14 10/28/06 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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So are you EDMOND KOKER or what? The Kokers i know are NASIRU KOKER,CHRISTOPHER,RODRICH ETC.
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 23:16:37 10/28/06 ()
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What do you mean by "or what"?
The last two named persons are my younger brothers. Nasiru, as I indicated in a response to the good Reverend, is my second cousin.
Subject: Re: What Party made it possible for the war to be waged?
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 01:31:16 10/29/06 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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ok i know now who you are eventhough i have never met you.I live in canada.Easter your sister was my primary school classmate and nasiru.
Subject: EDMUND KOKER
From: Joker Koker
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Date Posted: 14:24:59 10/28/06 ()
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"If some peeple bin geh dar kine love ehn respect for dem yone Mammi, dem nor bin for cuss orda porsin yone Mammy, ehn tell abominable lies pan ahm. Porsin wae dem nor ever meet nar dem life."
Sengbe, go look at yourself in a mirror.
You have shown everybody on cocorioko that you are a rude, crude, tribalistic nonentity who has an incurable inferiority complesx. So, you desperately try to hide your inferiority by trying to Pull Down your betters.
You writing show we say you nar Scarf wae nor sabi tok Krio tay now. so, go back to your uncivilized fakai where you were taught that it is okay to abuse your betters. "If YOU bin geh ANY kine love ehn respect for YOU yone Mammi, dem YOU nor bin for cuss orda porsin yone Mammy, ehn tell abominable lies pan ahm."
Subject: Re: EDMUND KOKER
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 15:05:33 10/28/06 ()
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You accuse me of having an "incurable inferiority complex". But how can this be, when you, the accuser are "inferior" to me? Do you really know the meaning of what you wrote?
Who are my "betters" in this case? on this forum? Please elucidate.
"...You writing show we say you nar Scarf wae nor sabi tok Krio tay now..."
Ar nor sabi torke krio tay now, but u understand waetin ar write. Norto so?
It would have been an insult to me if you had accused of incompetency in expressing myself in Mende, or English, but you said Krio (and yet you understood what I wrote in krio). So no harm done.
Are you now willing to respond to the main thrust of my posting, and leave out the personal issues you have self-imposed on yourself? If so, I am willing to debate your ideas in a very civilized manner. If not, please stay in your corner.
Forum Police, the borgeddor is using my real name again. Would you please advice him or it to desist from doing so? Better yet could you please delete my real name from that posting? I don't want any trouble on this forum.
Thanks!
Subject: Re: EDMUND KOKER
From: Joker Koker
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Date Posted: 15:25:58 10/28/06 ()
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"Ar nor sabi torke krio tay now, but u understand waetin ar write."
Bobs, nar so you you fool, Koker?
It doesn't mean that because I manage to get the gist of what you are struggling to say, that means you are exopressing yourself correctly. What it means is that, just like Kabs tolerates all manners of people, I can tolerate illiterate Krio writing from linguistically challenged rude persons with an inferiority complex!
Tchai! "Tuppitness" nor fine, oh!
Subject: Re: EDMUND KOKER
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 15:30:39 10/28/06 ()
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If this is all you can contribute to the discussion under this thread then indeed "Tuppitness nor fine, oh!"
Ee lef pan you in your ignorance!!
Subject: Re: EDMUND KOKER
From: Joker Koker
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Date Posted: 15:36:00 10/28/06 ()
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I see you also don't understand English!
Koker: Pointing out your ignorance does not make me the one who is ignorant -- except to someone who doe not know the meaning of the word ignorant!
Tchai, Koker, nar so you "tuppit?!"
Subject: Two schools for Hastings and Kossoh Town
From: NEWS VENDOR
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Date Posted: 10:04:46 10/28/06 ()
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STANDARD TIMES
Two schools for Hastings and Kossoh Town
Posted by on Oct 27, 2006, 04:07
Two school construction projects in the Western Area Rural District have been launched by Government, through the National Commission for Social Action (NaCSA).
The primary schools, already under construction at Hastings and Kossoh Town in the outskirts of Freetown, will each comprise a three classroom block, staff quarters, VIP toilets, a hand pump water well and furniture
Both projects are being implemented are being implemented through NaCSA’s Community-Driven Programme (CDP), using the Direct Community Financing (DCF) strategy, which empowers communities to take control of the project implementation process.
At the joint launching ceremony, the Headman Hastings Community, Daniel Coker expressed appreciation, on behalf of the people of both communities, for the projects, which shows government’s concern for education.
Mr. Coker noted that education is the key to the development of any community, maintaining the ‘Kossoh town and Hastings are one and the same people’.
The Project Management Committee Chairpersons of Kossoh Town and Hastings, Nat John Conteh and Letticia Lewis both expressed satisfaction with the school construction projects which will provide the appropriate teaching and learning environment for the growing population of children. They commended the role of NaCSA in Community empowerment and promised to complete the projects in record time.
The Chairman Western Rural Area District Council, Alieu Badara Manasaray commended government for putting premium on education to cater for the 1.2m school-going children. He disclosed that Mabureh and Grafton are to benefit from a market and Health Center and implored all to support government’s development efforts.
The Inspector of Schools II, Western Area Rural District, Rev. Edward Coker observed on a happy note that the two projects are progressing satisfactorily. He said that all public examination fees are paid by government and encouraged parents to send their children to school and pupils to take full advantage of the opportunities provided. The Ministry, he said, works with NaCSA to implement school project activities throughout the country.
In her keynote address to launch the project, NaCSA’s Western Area District Coordinator Madiana Samba informed the people that NaCSA is using the Direct Community-Financing Approach to implement projects in order to build local capacity for collective action. Mrs. Samba explained the rights of children to education and encouraged parents to put premium on education, especially that of the girl child, stating that pupils should have respect and regard for government property.
The two school projects when completed, will serve 10 communities in the Hastings and Kossoh Town localities.
The programme was chaired by the Deputy Headman of Hastings, Mr. Lade John.
Subject: JOHN LEIGH AND SOLOMON BEREWA ARE THE SAME
From: Judge
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Date Posted: 08:47:00 10/28/06 ()
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John Leigh's problem is the same as VP Solomon Berewa's:
Both gentklemen do not know their intellectual, professional, and moral limits.
So, in the case of Berewa, he deludes himself by imagining that he can run a country like salone eficiently, when it is obvious that that task is beyond his professional (incompetent), intellectual (incomprehensible) and moral (corrupt) abilitities.
Ditto for John Leigh. He fools himself into thinking that he is a statesman when everyone else can see that the task is beyond his professional (arrogant "me nor dae talk to san san boy" mentality), intellectual (illogical) and moral (flip-flop) abilities.
And that is the truth. lonta.
Subject: Re: JOHN LEIGH AND SOLOMON BEREWA ARE THE SAME
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 10:45:08 10/28/06 ()
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"And that is the truth. lonta.
Is that YOUR truth or is it an Objective truth. Try not to over categorise. John Leigh is a fine gentleman if you get to know him and he is not Bourgeeoise
Subject: Re: JOHN LEIGH AND SOLOMON BEREWA ARE THE SAME
From: Judge
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Date Posted: 11:31:51 10/28/06 ()
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"Is that YOUR truth or is it an Objective truth."
Alieu:
I know you are are friend of Leigh. But, try to take your own advice:
"Try not to over [bato]. John Leigh is a fine [friend of yours] if you get to know him and he is [definately a] Bourgeeoise."
if not, why does he look down on "san san boys" and call a better lawyer than himself " flunky lawyer?"
I say, alieu, i know you to be a fine lawyer, but you are not objective when it comes to your best friend John Leigh.
And that';s the trurh. Lomnta.
Subject: Re: JOHN LEIGH AND SOLOMON BEREWA ARE THE SAME
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 07:19:12 10/30/06 ()
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i know you to be a fine lawyer, but you are not objective when it comes to your best friend John Leigh.
Thanks for the complement and its refreshing considering that most of the non lawyers in this forum believe that I am a babysitting lawyer not worth my weight in salt. However on the issue of John Leigh, do you know of anyone who considers himself a friend who would not come to that friends defense and still be considered such? I only respond to what I consider unfair attacks against John leigh. and that was unfair.
Anyhoo gotta run morning is breaking in California and I got to get the kids ready for school and do the dishes, wash clothes, clean the bathroom, and all the other chores that a babyseating lawyer would have to do. after all of that then I am going to be back on the forum.
Oh how I love this foprum and if it were not for the asinine EDMUND KOKER who calls himself a professor, this forum might have become more interesting.
Subject: Re: JOHN LEIGH AND SOLOMON BEREWA ARE THE SAME
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 14:45:33 10/28/06 ()
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Dear Mr. Judge:
I do not look down on san-san boys or on any other class of people. You wished I did.
My view of san-san boys is that they are not influential enough to catapult any politician to a level were his rival may want to assassinate him.
Certain people may indeed be a better lawyer than me but I can say that I never dropped out in form four, even after repeating that class. I graduated.
Nor have I ever had my parents opincall my school principal to promote me to the form five.
Further, I was a school certificate material. All my exams were written exams including my bar finals. And whatever I have accomplished in life, I did so on my own effort without ever using any family's clout. Thank you. JL
Subject: Re: JOHN LEIGH AND SOLOMON BEREWA ARE THE SAME
From: Judge
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Date Posted: 15:52:26 10/28/06 ()
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Mr. Leigh, I thank you for answering the accusation that you look down on "san san" boys. Now, would you please answer the other 2 you did not answer -- that you are a flip-flopper and that you argue illogoically?
Subject: Re: JOHN LEIGH AND SOLOMON BEREWA ARE THE SAME
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:04:51 10/28/06 ()
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Mr. Judge:
I am neither illogical nor a flip-flopper. - JL
Subject: Re: JOHN LEIGH AND SOLOMON BEREWA ARE THE SAME
From: Judge
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Date Posted: 16:16:51 10/28/06 ()
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Fron Concord Times, May 26, 2006
Is John Leigh a Flip-flopper?
Edie Vandy 26/5/2006
Reading through the piece written by Sahid V. Vandy of Awareness Times in his May 15, 2006 article captioned: ‘John Leigh Goes Berserk again in Sierra Leone,' I couldn't help but laugh aloud, when the writer said, and I quote”.... out of the whole host of dignitaries, the loudest and most vociferous of all those who were asking the people of Port Loko to give their fullest support and vote in 2007 for what he termed as ‘the able leadership of Solomon Ekuma Berewa' was John Ernest Leigh”.
There could be a mistake, as this could not be the John Leigh, who has made the world believe that he was above such nonsense; the only man standing today and equipped to clean up the administration's political wreckage and avert chaos; the man with 35 years of experience in economic development, and according to him has the ability to create national wealth and knows how to circulate money to the grassroots. These are his words, not mine. He has maintained and sharpened this line of attack, considered harsh by many but nevertheless accepted by his supporters. Not any more. The question that we should be asking is, “why the sudden u turn of mind”?
John Leigh's hypocrisy is noted in his criticism (April 11, 2005) of defenders of the current administration and leadership triage of Dr. Sama Banya, Vice President Berewa and President Kabbah as heroes, refereeing to it as spirited and misplaced defense. In his eyes, they are no heroes. Today, he adores and courts them, and has become the advocate and mouthpiece, and quoting his exact words in his conversation with the Awareness Times reporter:
"The momentum for this SLPP Party is growing everyday. SLPP Government, Tejan Kabbah and Solomon Berewa cannot satisfy everybody all at once but they are doing their level best by targeting the most needed areas.” A complete irony and policy shift in his position. What were you thinking, Mr. Leigh, when you had this to say on the failed policies of President Kabbah and his SLPP led administration: "Since his inception, there has not been any policy adopted that has benefited the ordinary man. They are benefiting just themselves while the majority of the people are living deplorable lives."
Did you not say that the government's economic policy was static and cannot be sustained? How are you going to reconcile these two positions? These are mixed messages you are sending. Did I hear somebody say, you've metamorphosed overnight as the PR for a man you considered less fit to be the leader and President of our beloved nation; the man you said is a lawyer and knows nothing about administration? This is the same man you're now clapping for and dancing to his tunes, and like the reporter puts it; “he clapped and danced so hard that he sweated profusely all over the light blue shirt he was wearing”. Oh poor John Leigh. Desperation and frustration can force people to be jokers.
Let's face it: every politician at one time or another will have to change his announced position to meet a changed situation. They all flip-flop, like we all do sometimes in this changing world. Here it is unique, as John Leigh the brave, the bold has been caught with his pants down. The photos were shocking revelations of how people can fall so low in their quest for power, recognition, and water down their moral dignity, which is priceless. As a public figure, and nation builder (as he claims) and when placed in context with his political ranting and ego bashing all over the media , this flip-flop and flim-flam from him cannot go unnoticed.
Yesterday, it was JB Duada who lambasted the VP, as the most corrupt person he has known only to turn around and kneel for power, and he got what he went for; Special Assistant to the President. Moral decadence has caught up with that generation in their zealousness for power, and it is about time that the civilized community takes a stand to correct this decay and deceitful politicking and hold accountable people like John Leigh, Abass Bundu and JB Dauda for such shameless acts. Like my favorite radio talk show always says, we are in a “savage nation” and heading for doom, if men and women with sound mind do not cage these flip-floppers in the political zoo.
Let me move you through virtual memory of John Leigh's in-depth view of the so-called failed administration he is now bedding and dining with? In his response to John Manah in the article: ETERNAL VIGILANCE IS THE PRICE FOR NATION-BUILDING-April 11, 2005, he wrote:
“People such as Mr. Mannah ought to realize that there is a major distinction between us, the purported marginalized but productive Party members and workers, on the one hand; and on the other hand, the failed LEADERSHIP of ungratefulness, greed, selfishness, lies, kahlow-kahlowness, vindictiveness, marginalization, incompetence, tiredness; piss-stink-and-stench; heaps of garbage in public thoroughfares and market areas; stagnant and smelly polluted fluids and garbage in public drains; persistent blackouts; bold, ubiquitous disease-carrying flies buzzing all over; blood-sucking unopposed mosquitoes injecting debilitating killer diseases into people including farmers, mothers, children and babies. Then there is the same LEADERSHIP of persistent cronyism, nepotism, favoritism, willfulness and failure”.
And on the VP, John Leigh's cynical words are many and varied, and using his exact words amongst others has said about Berewa: “What has Berewa ever done for the SLPP and, if any, when?
He has not only questioned the VP's membership, but his commitment and loyalty as well. We knew about Berewa's non-refusal to make financial contributions, through John Leigh, and his infamous remark ‘How, nah all Mende man day join SLPP? Bo lef me yah!'.
Leigh has said that Berewa “thinks a whole lot about his so-called presidential apprenticeship that he received from someone who himself never underwent any presidential apprenticeship and who was never a president-in-waiting”.
Continuing in the same vein, he has lambasted the VP about his perceived cronyism, nepotism, favoritism, and his woeful inadequacies in the area of economics, finance, business, international affairs and management. In short, the VP is not qualified to lead him, not alone the nation.
Putting two and two together, and after careful analysis of current events, there seems a connection between the present position statement of John Leigh and his recent remarks in the media for which he was slammed and scorned by the PMDC loyalists (and other well meaning compatriots) after reference to their base and supporters as mostly low grade noisemakers - san san boys, Honda drivers, ex-combatants, carwash boys etc.
Perhaps his purported countrywide tour might have been a clandestine peace mission conducted to roller coast with the VP on his 2007 victory cruise ship??? Like Abass Bundu, John Leigh knows that his political comeback can only be guaranteed with a Berewa ticket. Getting on board now is better than being late, as the gate is closing down on their type, and he follows in the footstep of Abbas Bundu, who at least had the nerve to face the nation and pour out his destiny, past and present with the party.
Do Sierra Leoneans deserve at least the same too from John Leigh, on his flip-flop, his bickering and of course the sudden u turn? This is a hunch, which is deep seated: that outside the SLPP, John Leigh cannot command a voting bloc in any given constituency, and I want to challenge him to prove me wrong by contesting for a constituency election. He would be defeated hands down by one of these “san san boys”, he decries and looks down upon. Talk and say what you may, write the usual 21 pages edition to refute these insinuations, but pretty much right meaning Sierra Leoneans really do not care and give a damn on those ego shots. It just doesn't have the same ring anymore. John Leigh's political career path is history, like Karefa Smart's.
Serious Sierra Leoneans at some point believed in John Leigh, thinking that he could just be that person who would do things differently. His words and his vibes particularly during the interregnum period and his push for the restoration of constitionality (but not with the lion share of the burden as he put it) spoke for itself.
I remember when some sections of the press and his opponents were right on his heels as a whistle blower on the administration in the infamous NOPEC Oil Deal in April 2001; some of us stood behind him, knowing that he was doing the right thing and putting nationhood first before cronyism.
Those were the good old days, when John Leigh was the one many came to revere. His inconsistency, and rhetoric now lack conviction, particularly before and after the convention, heightened in the light of the Awareness Times publication of his shasa dance with the VP.
His vociferous defense of a man he had chastised, condemned and accused in every aspect, is a colossal political mistake. Where are your principles John Leigh? Let me hear your ranting and defense on this matter. Sierra Leoneans deserve to know. Mending fences with the VP is very laudable but to be frank, you put yourself on the spot by your blaa blaa, and bashing of a man whom many hailed as hero. You were out and about in the media all day long. See what you have got yourself into?
Remember, Sierra Leoneans who had your interests at heart cautioned and threw in a few words of advice to consolidate efforts and work with the other leadership contenders, to ensure an all out victory against the incumbency, who was tough to beat. What did you say?
Overconfidence and your ego got the better judgment of you, brow beating all who meant good for you. You had nothing good to say of your fellow contenders. Name bashing was the campaign tool. And now, you are back to square one buddy, tailgating the VP and coasting for recognition and a taste of the pie. TIME OUT, Mr. Leigh. The VP knows you right through. He knows about your diabolical plans, and mark these words; you will be used and dumped just like the Pa did. When you cry wolf, nobody will come around this time.
Please don't tell the nation that you are wooing the SLPP and Solo Bee for another lucrative deal, position or even the hotly contested VP position still out for grabs. What a good conduit to recoup the few thousands bucks spent on the party leadership bid, and to recover those hard earned money $90,231.81 the Kabbah Administration owes him since September 2002. John Leigh in his entire pronouncement has been hammering on monies spent on the party. Your bet is as good as mine; he wants it all back, maybe not.
Check this one out; a self proclaimed champion of democracy, free speech and the media is now running away from the media, those very institutions he had used as PR machinery, to launch his political bid for the highest office. John Leigh has scorn for the media particularly papers that challenge him. There is no exit from this ugly situation. This is a man who doesn't like a contrary view, and once expressed as long as it goes against his own, will counter and fume with lyrics and vibes. He took on John Mannah, Karamoh Kabbah and many others.
A bitter John Leigh (though he asserts he has never been bitter in his life, and I beg to differ) following a failed leadership bid and without a nomination, said this on the “ conbention” as he puts it, on the elected choice as “thoroughly unpopular, and a brutal imposition”, that will be difficult to market.
Records have shown that you've been bitter all the time, just like we all have one way or the other. Don't even say that you have not been bitter when things fall apart and do not go as planned. Were you not bitter in your descr1ption of the SLPP administration (just before the conbention) as "too kalokalo and full of swegbeh policies and tactics" which in your own words, "have got people disgusted."
The monies you spent for which you continue to roar are not free lunch, as there is no free lunch anywhere. These are monies spent to buy your way to power and the sweets of office that follow it. This is for personal gain. Had you stayed the course and held upright on your principles, then it would have been a different matter. Just maybe, nobody would have been bitter. I am not bitter because of your support for the VP, or the SLPP party. I am bitter simply by taking you on your words. Period. Do you want to know why I care? National duty and vigilance, just like every other well-meaning compatriots.
People never learn from mistakes. Read my lips, just like the SLPP folks, rudely insulted him in March 2002 in the party naming convention, John Leigh is going to be going to be disgraced one more time, like it happens for all failing politicians, who've outlived their usefulness. So dust off those flip-flop sandals of yours and come straight and square with the nation. We demand answers and an apology for those words against the VP and the SLPP as a party, and all that believed in you before.
Subject: Re: JOHN LEIGH AND SOLOMON BEREWA ARE THE SAME
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:42:27 10/29/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. Judge:
Mr. Edie Vandy's piece you republished relied entirely on the fake reporting of Sahid Vandy in the RUF Gongorlee Wohwoh Sylbanya Lie-Lie Times of fake quotes and fake conduct that never happened.
None of what Sahid wrote is or was true. It was the output of Ms. Gongorlee Wohwoh imagination.
For your information, I never said a single word during the entire time I traveled with the Berewa entourage in both Port Loko and Kono Districts in May. That ugly gongorlee woman invented the bogus write-up. She is sick. Having slept with Foday Sankoh, she tried to sleep with me, that filthy wretch. She will not stop her usual ninjas wohwoh lie-lie mischief trash.
All this has been harshed in this forum in May and June. Go back and check the records and dig them up as you dug up the Edie Vandy piece he wrote without interveiwing me. He himself was not sure of the accuracy of the fake lie-lie gongorlee wohwoh sahid piece for he wrote: "There could be a mistake, as this could not be the John Leigh, ......."
Mr. Edie Vandy ought to check with all sides when writing an article. Relying on one gongorlee source is damaging to his reputation.
During your search you should come across my descr1ption of her ugly gongorlee journalism.
I specifically wrote that 'the only thing uglier than her lies was her bulbous, wide-capacity, niger-delta gongorlee wohwoh nose, perched crookedly atop her crooked face and draning inbetween two darting, dishonset eyes constantly looking for trouble.'
For your own education, please note that a flip-flopper is not someone who endorses what he believes is the best candidate among three choices, all things considered, including his views about the current administration.
A flip-flopper is someone who changes his mind on the same issue when there is no change in circumstances or facts. I have not changed any of my opinion of the current adminstration.
Merely because one criticizes someone prior to his party's convention, does not mean he cannot, after the convention, endorse the one he had earlier criticized.
You need to upgrade your education.
All things considered, including all my prior criticisms of the current SLPP administration, I am convinced that Berewa is still over 100 times a superior presidential candidate than the better of the two others. His background, compared to that of the two others, indicates he is more likely to succeed as president than the others but he needs to assemble an excellent team.
I am willing to work with Berewa but totally unwilling to be associated with the others.
Remedials, dunces, flunkies, mundo tombo dumbo munkus, scafs, frog doctors, frogie paramedics, fulumunkus, crooks, political harlots, attempted third force hijackers, disbarred lawyers and political jobseekers stupidly believed that because of my criticisms I have not choice but to endorse their flunky rubbish choice for president.
Well, they are wrong and very bitter about it. They have only their remedial, flunky, Simple Simeon mentality to blame for a wild assumption and misplaced confidence. I will never join them and be seen associating with disbarred lawyers, mundo tombo dumbo munkus, flunkies, etc.
As for all my criticisms of the current administration during the past three or four years, I repeat and reaffirm them. I am not backing away one inch. In fact, I will strive to let the entire SLPP take as many as possible of them to heart.
Those of you who conclude that I have swallowed my criticisms because I refuse to split my party and in fact support VP Berewa are no smarter than your dunce frog paramedic with his lone frog experiment embassy pan-beating. And since my critical views have begun to resonate within a large part of the party, it is my duty to pursue reform from within.
This is what I am after. I have no interest whatsoever in splitting my party. Hence, it is fair to say that the genuine Third Force is alive and well and flourishing inside the Sierra Leone Peoples Party.
The last thing I will ever do is waste time with a form four flunky, papa's precious lovely little baby boy spoilt brat and help him expoilt my criticisms. He should have been man enough himself and write his own criticisms over the years for the world to see where he stood. He failed to do so for he was not fearless and now he wants to use me to exploit my own citicisms. Mr. spoilt brat papa's lovely baby boy and his dunces are wasting their time.
Thank you for the opportunity to vent out. But discussion of this matter is now over. - JL
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Subject: MR. JOHN LEIGH, HERE YOU GO AGAIN!!!
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 23:06:38 10/27/06 ()
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JOHN LEIGH WROTE: "PMDC was not even in existence when peace came to our country. Their Leader whiled his time away in Conakry during the war. Even during wartime, he spent his time jockeying and ploting to succeed Tejan Kabbah as SLPP Leaders while others slaved to end the catastrophic suffering of our people.
What kind of man is this flunky leader? He should account for whatever role he might have played in the peace process. Let him release his bio-data for public inspection."
MOININA'S QUESTIONS:
1. Was the issue about whether PMDC or SLPP ended the war?
2. Was there any claim by any PMDC supporter or the Interim Leaders that PMDC or its leader Charles Margai was responsible for bringing in peace?
3. Is it not a fact that most of the political leaders including Kabbah and Berewa were all in Guinea? Why single out Charles? Hmmmmmmm
4. Mr. Leigh we it is on record BLACK AND WHITE what you told the WHOLE WIDE WORLD about BEREWA. Have you now changed your mind about Berewa?
Now you have changed from FLUNKY LAWYER to FLUNKY LEADER. At least you have progressed to accepting that he is INDEED A LEADER of some type. He may not have played any role in bringing peace to SL, but that does not disqualify him as a credible Presidential candidate. MR. LEIGH YOU ARE ON RECORD THAT SLPP GOVERNMENT IS CORRUPT, PLAYS WATERMELON POLITICS, ETC. Berewa is and always been part of that government and he is currently second in command. Are you telling us that KABBA is the only person responsible for the alleged mess in the running of the affairs of the state? Mr. Leigh, if your answer is in the affirmative, I will completely disagree with you.
Take care and thank you for your anticipated response.
Subject: Re: MR. JOHN LEIGH, HERE YOU GO AGAIN!!!
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 15:47:41 10/28/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. Moinina:
I will repond in sequence your questions as well as the other specific points youv'e raised as follows:
MOININA'S: 1. Was the issue about whether PMDC or SLPP ended the war?
LEIGH's A1. The posting was about who or which group ended the war.
In responding, I choose to cover all bases.
Q2. Was there any claim by any PMDC supporter or the Interim Leaders that PMDC or its leader Charles Margai was responsible for bringing in peace?
A2. NO. So what?
Q3. Is it not a fact that most of the political leaders including Kabbah and Berewa were all in Guinea? Why single out Charles? Hmmmmmmm
A3. Yes, Messrs. Kabbah and Berewa were in Guinea. I did not single out Mr. Margai. I covered all bases. As far as my posting on war-and-peace in SL is concerned I have mentioned many people: Messrs. Kabbah, Berewa, Johnny Koroma, Sankoh, Taylor, Dr. Jonah, Payne, etc. etc.
Q4. Mr. Leigh we it is on record BLACK AND WHITE what you told the WHOLE WIDE WORLD about BEREWA. Have you now changed your mind about Berewa?
A4. My opinion about VP Berewa is that he is a better man to be president of Sierra Leone in succession to President Kabbah than either Koroma or Margai.
Merely because I criticized someone does not mean I should jump ship and endorse another individual that I consider totally inappropriate for the position.
Where is the flipfloping? You guys are under-educated?
Q5. Now you have changed from FLUNKY LAWYER to FLUNKY LEADER.
A5. I have not changed from flunky lawyer to flunky leader. I merely used the right terminology where I think it is appropriate.
Q6. At least you have progressed to accepting that he is INDEED A LEADER of some type.
A6. Yes, a leader of flunkies, dunces, remedials, Mumbo Tombo Dumbo Munku Bangucrookedness, yap yap talk, Ah go do dis Ah go do dat, Ah go-ah go Ah go- go-go-go-go go...
Q7. He may not have played any role in bringing peace to SL, but that does not disqualify him as a credible Presidential candidate.
A7. All four presidential candidates are qualified to be candidates. Even Foday Sankoh would be qualified today to be a presidential candidate if he were alive.
However, paper qualifications aside, what kind of president would one make if elected? We have to look at his past. What did he do for peace? How did he handle family clout? What kind of education does he have? How did he go about forming his party? Who are the people around him? Remedials? Flunkies? Mundo Tombo Dumbo Minku? What is his character like: Crooked? Hot tempered? Arrogant? What is their politics like: Family poilitics? Tribal Affinity? Schoolemateism?
Q8. MR. LEIGH YOU ARE ON RECORD THAT SLPP GOVERNMENT IS CORRUPT, PLAYS WATERMELON POLITICS, ETC. Berewa is and always been part of that government and he is currently second in command.
A8. My criticisms of the current SLPP Administration have resonated within certain ranks in the party. I believe that a large portion of the party's rank and file and the general population share my views.
Now that the election date has been announced I am withholding criticisms of my party until after the elections. I would not mind allowing a 12-month honeymoon free from attacks from me.
As for VP Berewa's role in the current administration, understand that he is merely an African Vice President. He job is to be 100% loyal and help make his president looks good. He cannot behave otherwise.
During 1998 when I was overheard on CNN in Lagos, Nigeria praising Gen. Sani Abacha for evicting the coupligan regime and reinstating the Kabbah government, I received a call at the embassy from the president of the Nigerian Civil Rights Committee, lodging a complaint. He complained that I should not be praising Abacha because he was a terrible dictator who did not believe in democracy.
My answer was very simple. I relied on a Mende proverb my father had told me which is: 'when a man is carrying you on his back to safety, you dare not tell him he stinks'. As for democracy, I told him he is wrong because Abacha cannot promote democracy in SL while festering dictatorship in Nigeria. It won't fly. Be patient my man, I told him.
Do you ever expect a VP anywhere in the world to go public against his president? It simply cannot be done.
Q9. Are you telling us that KABBA is the only person responsible for the alleged mess in the running of the affairs of the state?
A9. YES! He is the exclusive sovereign power in SL. Any power for Berewa's devolves from his president as the president deems fit. And let me tell you something: that power will never include the right to publicaly criticize the president or publicly disagree with him. So, take heart and calm down.
Q10. Mr. Leigh, if your answer is in the affirmative, I will completely disagree with you.
A10. So be it, my dear Mr. Moinina.
Moinina's Conclusion: Take care and thank you for your anticipated response.
Thank you very much Mr. Moinina. - JL
Subject: Re: MR. JOHN LEIGH, HERE YOU GO AGAIN!!!
From: Berewa the Flunky Lawyer
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Date Posted: 03:38:28 10/28/06 ()
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If would rather have Kabbah continue to rule than have a Berewa Presidency.
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RICHMOND, Virginia (CNN) -- The bitter Senate campaign in Virginia turned uglier Friday when the Republican incumbent pulled up sexual passages from novels written by his Democratic opponent, who called the move baseless character assassination.
In a news release and list of quotes posted Friday on the Drudge Report Web site, Sen. George Allen accused his opponent, former Navy Secretary Jim Webb, of "demeaning women" and "dehumanizing women, men and even children" through his fiction writings. At least two of the listed passages include children in sexual situations.
Allen's campaign did not include the press release and list of passages on its Web site, where press releases are generally posted.
There was, however, a Thursday statement from Chris LaCivita, general consultant for the Allen campaign, saying some references in Webb's novels are "disturbing" and "portray women as servile, subordinate and promiscuous."
Webb served in Vietnam and later led the Navy during the Reagan administration. He is running as a Democrat.
He has written six best-selling novels from 1978 to 2001, his Web site says. His writings have largely focused on war and military storylines, influenced by things he experienced.
The first quote describes a shirtless man picking up a naked boy who runs toward him. The book describes what happens after the man picks up the boy and turns him upside down. It comes from the 2001 book "Lost Soldiers."
Webb responded Friday morning on Washington Post radio. "Let me explain what that was," he said. "I actually saw this happen in a slum of Bangkok and when I was there as a journalist. A man placing his lips on his son's private parts. ... And the duty of a writer is to illuminate the surroundings.
"There is nothing that's been in any of my novels that, in my view, hasn't been either illuminating surroundings or defining a character or moving a plot," Webb said.
He added that he has "strong female characters" in his writings -- rejecting LaCivita's assertion that Webb's books portray women as "servile, subordinate and promiscuous."
The Allen campaign included several passages aimed at supporting that argument, including graphic sexual depictions and a quote from the 1981 book "A Sense of Honor," describing the character "Nurse Goodbody" as "a bedtime friend to many of the doctors in Bethesda" who had hinted "that she simply could not contain herself."
Webb told Washington Post radio that to pull excerpts from his writings "and force them on people, sort of, like pound them over the head with them," rather than having someone read the entire book "is just a classic example of the way this [Allen] campaign has worked. And you know, it's smear after smear."
"This is a Karl Rove campaign," Webb said, referring to President Bush's chief political strategist. "We have known this one was coming for quite some time."
Webb said advisers had warned him his opponent would pore over his novels to find incendiary passages. Webb accused Allen of not having "a record to run on" and attempting "character assassination."
The Allen campaign's attack came days after a Washington Post article headlined "Women's Vote Could Tip Close Contest." A Washington Post poll earlier this month found the two candidates virtually tied among female voters.
On Thursday, Webb's campaign posted a news release looking at parts of Allen's voting record with the headline, "George Allen Votes Against Victims of Sexual Assault and Domestic Violence." Allen has denied such complaints.
Allen's re-election bid has been dogged by complaints of racial insensitivity. Polls in mid-August showed him with a solid lead until he was caught on videotape referring to Webb campaign volunteer S.R. Sidarth, who is of Indian descent, as "Macaca." The term refers to a class of monkey.
Allen apologized repeatedly and said the term was something he made up. Later, two former associates told CNN that Allen used a racial epithet to describe African-Americans -- allegations Allen and other former associates denied vigorously.
Sexual scenarios in fiction novels by prominent political and governmental figures have been controversial in the past. Webb, on Washington Post radio Friday, referred to one.
"I mean we can go and read Lynne Cheney's lesbian love scenes if you want to, you know, get graphic on stuff," he said.
Lynne Cheney, wife of Vice President Dick Cheney, wrote the novel "Sisters," published in 1981, which included lesbian love scenes.
Lynne Cheney responded Friday: "Jim Webb is full of baloney. I have never written anything sexually explicit." (Watch Lynne Cheney defend her novel, criticize Webb -- 10:18)
The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee sent out a news release Friday pointing to sexual passages in books by other GOP conservatives, including Dick Cheney's former chief of staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.
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Subject: TRUE OR FALSE - WHAT'S YOUR TAKE?
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 18:59:37 10/27/06 ()
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"IT IS MORE DIFFICULT TO BE PRESIDENT OF SIERRA LEONE THAN AMERICA.
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Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE - WHAT'S YOUR TAKE?
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 11:13:32 10/28/06 ()
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My take is that there is more blame to be spread oround in Salone than anyone of us can imagine. I think while the government, and past goverments, bear the bulk of it, there's been a culture of dependency and laziness among our people to a point where they can expect the government to clean their back yard.
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE - WHAT'S YOUR TAKE?
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 06:34:52 10/28/06 ()
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Is this the basis of future excuses for non-performance or has he started complaining already? If it is too difficult, Mr. VP go retire or go back to your chambers.
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE - WHAT'S YOUR TAKE?
From: Alie Formeh Kamara
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Date Posted: 10:06:37 10/28/06 ()
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How can Berewa not see that the President is responsible for all the things he outlined?
The President is at the top of the chain of command. Below him are his Ministers, Directors, Commissioners, Councils etc and other civil servants.
He appoints Ministers to take charge of specialized areas in the gamut of operations and the Ministers are responsible to him.
Sometimes complaints or advise on services come from the press, the general public, demonstrators, Parliament, Union representatives, party members, university professionals, professional organizations etc. When complaints are directed to the President about the general sanitary condition of the country, no one is asking the President to go collect garbage, himself. Such an interpretation is reflective of a gross lack of understanding about leadership.
When complaints or warnings reach the President's office there should be follow ups depending on the seriousness of the issue. Sometimes a follow up may simply mean that the complaint is brought to the attention of the specialized Ministry with a request for a follow up report by a due date on how the issue was dealt with.
If work ethics are bad is it not up to the President to do something? If Civil Servants are inefficient and incompetent, is it not up to the President to do something about it. Do we want a President who wants to stay aloof when our nation is beset with problems?
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE - WHAT'S YOUR TAKE?
From: SIAKA STEVENS
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Date Posted: 10:23:30 10/28/06 ()
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The day that your dear leader Stevens decided to centralize everything in Freetown was the day that our entire system was brought into shambles. People in the provinces had to wait for decision makers from Freetown before they can do anything, thanks to your APC and Siaka Stevens. The train system was abruptly brought to an end, but they never tried to build an efficient road system.
Rice became a luxuty, insted of selling it in stores, people have to form long lines i n front of state house to purchase that commodity. Now tell me my man, Stevens and your APC destroyed that nation's backbone, and our entire system(scjhools, colleges, etc)was left to rot. In the late 80's to early 90's top schools like the PoW, St. Edwards, AA had classrooms without any chairs or tables.
Students were forced to stand up for the entire day. There were nno chalks in 1991 for an entire month at POW(a govt schhool) that teachers had to ask students to buy chalks. The APC gov't that was responsible to provide these items never did. They screwed up that country, and until we change our bloody attitude, it will take a long time for us to prosper as a nation
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE - WHAT'S YOUR TAKE?
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:01:36 10/28/06 ()
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Yes, under Siaka Stevens, the APC shut down the district councils and made SLeone Freetown centric. Everything had to be decided in Freetown. There was only a single power center for the whole country, one without a surfaced roads.
To make matters worse, he dug up the railway and sold it for scrap.
Many of our lawabiding people died on the way to Freetown in road accidents while traveling to conduct routine district council business that should have been conducted locally.
Our country is a land of unnecessary suffering.
I am glad that the SLPP administration did the right thing and restored local decision making to the locals.
- JL
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE - WHAT'S YOUR TAKE?
From: laughing
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Date Posted: 10:55:22 10/29/06 ()
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John I am sure in your heart of hearts you dont believe this stuff you are saying do you really? Becareful now you are very welll respected please assume the mantle of a respected elderly objective states man that is you. Do not fall into the trap of being an SLPP apologist.
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE - WHAT'S YOUR TAKE?
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:55:55 10/29/06 ()
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Dear Mr. laughing:
I am not an SLPP apologist and will never be. I will criticize the party if it is wrong and will give it credit where credit is due without fear or favor.
Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE - WHAT'S YOUR TAKE?
From: Allie Rainbow
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Date Posted: 16:00:54 10/28/06 ()
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My Friend,
The Railway was phased at the behest of IMF and PL 480 Regimen was imposed to address the Foreign exchange crisis;
All the same,If Sierra leone Government were just following orders;So Why Blame Pa Sheki,Gen Momoh or any of our Leaders for policies that were whims
of international Institutions?..I encourage you to read Mohm jalloh's Articles and follow up with your own research!
In General,It is pathetic that there were Government Schools without basics like Chairs or Tables,however,the Government cannot bear all the responsibilities for the functioning of private Schools and institutions;
How many FBC or Njala graduates who were fortunate to recieve recieve free education in Sierra Leone Freely gave back something to the Republic of Sierra Leone?
I also wonder how much Taxes Sierra Leoneans Pay to the government or how much Money does the Titanium,Diamond,Gold and Agricultural Companies pay into Government coffers?
These are the Issues I urge that we boldly confront in the New Sierra leone instead of concerning ourselves with How many women our politicians are Sleepng with,or wether they are articulate in speaking the Queens English or not.
I am sure that the amount of taxes you have paid in the US is equivalent to more than ten times what Seventy Year Old Sierra Leoneans have paid to Sierra Leone Government their entire Lives...
I hope you get my drift(no offence intended here)..The issue I intend to expose is that most of the Sierra Leoneans who sit dowm and condemn our politicians,prefer
to Bribe Accountants and cashiers at Places like Electricity,Guma or sierratel,bribe instead of paying actual amount of Bills Due them;
My Point is that if the Government imposes a serious tax Regimen upon our Natural Rescources,and Collects every penny due for ParaStatal Services, Sierra leone
will definately become the Land of Milk and Honey we wish it to be.
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE - WHAT'S YOUR TAKE?
From: LONTA
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Date Posted: 10:16:45 10/28/06 ()
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We need to build systems that will make our nation more efficient. I am no fan of Berewa, but what he stated that if he wins the presidency, he will try to build an efficient delivery system. Let us face it, we have seen very intelligent and hardwiorking people been appointed ministers or top civil servants in
salone, but they have not been able to proper system in place, and until that system is completely changed, the cheer leaders here on cocorioko woll not be able to perfor. How many people on this forum have not serve as an official in the salone government before?
What did they do? The same old story. Just sit back, and accept whatever the system permits. We have to overhaul our entire system, and make people aware that they have to perform their functions effectively in order for the country to move forward. Mr. Berewa's point was that he will try to make the system work. He will try to improve on our delivery system. Instead of calling the inspector general of police when you are given ta ticket, you will rather go to court to fight the charges. Let us face it my countrymen, without the proper system in place, even an individual with a noble itention will not succeed.
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE - WHAT'S YOUR TAKE?
From: Ar Kaitch You
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Date Posted: 11:35:05 10/28/06 ()
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"I am no fan of Berewa, but what he stated that if he wins the presidency, he will try to build an efficient delivery system."
Only a blind fan of Berewa would believ the above lie from Berewa.
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE - WHAT'S YOUR TAKE?
From: San san boy
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Date Posted: 04:11:25 10/28/06 ()
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One of the most frequent dumbo, tombo, fulumunku scaff, dunce, flunky mistakes SL political upstarts make is to compare situations in the United States or Britain with seemingly similar situations in Sierra Leone on a straight line basis.
Seemingly similar situations in those civilized, developed, enlightened, mature and modern societies cannot be simply extrapolated into SL situations because our society is vastly different from those societies and is nothing but child's play compared to the standards of conduct in the US and Britain, etc.
Berewa has said that it is difficult to rule Sierra leone than America. Who is a flunky here, with regards to the statement above by Ambassador John Leigh
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE - WHAT'S YOUR TAKE?
From: Judge
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Date Posted: 08:44:35 10/28/06 ()
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John Leigh's problem is the same as VP Solomon Berewa's:
Both gentklemen do not know their intellectual, professional, and moral limits.
So, in the case of Berewa, he deludes himself by imagining that he can run a country like salone efficiently, when it is obvious that the task is beyond his professional (incompetent), intellectual (incomprehensible) and moral (corrupt) abilitities.
Ditto for John Leigh. He fools himself into thinking that he is a statesman when everyone else can see that the task is beyond his professional (arrogant "me nor dae talk to san san boy" mentality), intellectual (illogical) and moral (flip-flop) abilities.
And that is the truth. lonta.
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE - WHAT'S YOUR TAKE?
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 06:54:40 10/28/06 ()
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Are you really smart to interprit in a better way what people say without your confused political ideas?
Subject: WARNING TO BAMBAY KAMARA
From: KABS KANU
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Date Posted: 17:01:59 10/27/06 ()
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BAMBAY, IF YOU POST ANY PORN HERE AGAIN, YOU WILL BE BANNED FOREVER FROM PARTICIPATING IN THIS FORUM.
NO PORN, PLEASE .
THANKS .
Subject: Re: WARNING TO BAMBAY KAMARA
From: PLEASE STOP
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Date Posted: 17:05:37 10/27/06 ()
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And when are you going to band IDIOT< who is Alieu Iscandri for posting this trash? Where is justice, please?
Posted by IDIOT on October 24, 2006 at 06:53:10:
In Reply to: Re: BEREWA FIT TO BE PRESIDENT? READ THIS AND THINK AGAIN posted by Inferiority Complex on October 24, 2006 at 01:13:03:
HE IS A GADDAMN MOTHERFUCKING IDIOT THAT SENGBE, SON OF A WHORE
Subject: Re: WARNING TO BAMBAY KAMARA
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 20:42:20 10/27/06 ()
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Reverend Kabs Kanu, thank you for the admonission. I would only hope that you would use your position as a Godly man to see all the injustices and teach us to follow the right path.
The posting was deleted on my request and it was not intended in a sexual connotation but to educate all about what is most valued in life. These were Actors and Actresses (movie stars) that most of us wanted to be. It is unfortunate that most of us are not acquaited with reality.
Nonetheless, I thank you for the piece of advice and would add that the aims of many to push me to the ditch has failed and would never succeed in a civilized nation and this civilized world. Shame on them.
Subject: Doing business in Sierra Leone: For dreamers
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 16:59:11 10/27/06 ()
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Concerned do not read because you do not believe that the work one does now can be used as a booster for dreamers. You believe in here and now. What your eyes can see not knowing that there is a future.
Ask the wealthiest, they can tell you what they had was a dream and the zeal to follow it.
Subject: Liyan Leader to visit salone in March
From: Libya
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Date Posted: 16:08:15 10/27/06 ()
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Freetowm: The Libyan leader is expected tpo pay a three day official visit to Sierra-Leone in March a release from Tripoli said here today.
More News
Subject: Moroccan king to visit Sierra Leone
From: KING
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Date Posted: 16:06:26 10/27/06 ()
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Moroccan king to visit Sierra Leone
2 hours, 13 minutes ago
FREETOWN (AFP) - King Mohamed VI of Morocco will pay a two-day official visit to Sierra Leone starting November 13, Sierra Leone's Foreign Minister Alhaji Momodu Koroma said.
"The visit is to intensify the strong relationship that has developed between Sierra Leone and Morocco," Koroma said in a news conference, adding that 25 Moroccan electrical engineers will arrive in Freetown to appraise the state of the country's ailing National Power Authority.
"The group will work out a comprehensive package to revamp our energy needs," Koroma said.
On Thursday the king met with Koroma in the Moroccan capital of Rabat.
Cooperation between Morocco and Sierra Leone, which is recovering from 10 years of civil war (1991-2001) was at the center of talks.
Morocco was involved in the conflict resolution process among the West African countries of Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea, along the Mano River
Subject: Who can Change the trend
From: Investigator
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Date Posted: 13:35:01 10/27/06 ()
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Sierra Leone
Rank: 137
Score: 3.76
Category: Mostly Unfree
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Trade Policy4.5
Fiscal Burden4.1
Government Intervention2.0
Monetary Policy3
Foreign Investment4.0
Banking and Finance4.0
Wages and Prices2.0
Property Rights5.0
Regulation5.0
Informal Market4.0
Population: 5,337,000
Total area: 71,740 sq. km
GDP: $753.7 million
GDP growth rate: 6.6%
GDP per capita: $141
Major exports: diamonds, cocoa, coffee, fish
Exports of goods and services: $161.1 million
Major export trading partners: Belgium 58.6%, Germany 13.3%, UK 4.5%, US 4.4%
Major imports: foodstuffs, fuel, machinery and transport equipment, manufactured goods
Imports of goods and services: $583 million
Major import trading partners: Germany 23.2%, UK 9.8%, US 5.3%, Netherlands 5.2%
Foreign direct investment (net): $7.4 billion
2003 Data (in constant 2000 US dollars)
The civil war that crippled Sierra Leone for over a decade ended in 2002 after a successful British-led military intervention and a subsequent U.N. peacekeeping operation enabled the government to assume control of the entire country. President Ahmed Tejan Kabbah was re-elected in 2002, and his party won a majority of parliamentary seats in elections that, despite some irregularities, were judged to be free and fair. Following the demobilization and disarmament of rebel forces and government-backed militia, the country has returned to relative peace and normality, but stability is fragile, as demonstrated by the U.N. Security Council decision to extend the U.N. peacekeeping operation beyond the original target date. Regional instability poses additional problems; renewed conflict in neighboring Ivory Coast, Liberia, and Guinea, for example, could easily spill over into Sierra Leone. Reforms necessary to revive the economy and combat corruption have been slowed by vested interests. Per capita income is very low, and over two-thirds of the population is engaged in subsistence agriculture. In 2003, agriculture accounted for over 52 percent of GDP and diamonds comprised 69 percent of exports. Economic activity remains hindered by dilapidated infrastructure, rampant corruption, and economic mismanagement. Sierra Leone's monetary policy score is 1 point worse this year; however, its trade policy and government intervention scores are 0.5 point better, and its fiscal burden of government score is 0.2 point better. As a result, Sierra Leone's overall score is 0.02 point better this year.
Trade Policy
Score: 4.5
The World Bank reports that Sierra Leone's average tariff rate in 2004 was 13.3 percent, down from the 15.9 percent in 2002 reported in the 2005 Index, based on World Bank data. The World Trade Organization reports limited use of local content requirements and requirements for special permits, but that "few import prohibitions and restrictions are maintained for health, safety, security, and environmental reasons." According to the U.S. Department of Commerce, "non-tariff barriers include quotas…and sanitary and phytosanitary rules." Based on the lower tariff rate, as well as a revision of the trade factor methodology, Sierra Leone's trade policy score is 0.5 point better this year.
Fiscal Burden
Score: 4.1
The International Monetary Fund reports that the top income tax rate is 35 percent. According to the World Bank, the top corporate tax rate is 30 percent, down from the 35 percent reported in the 2005 Index. In 2003, according to the African Development Bank, government expenditures as a share of GDP increased 3.6 percentage points to 32.2 percent, compared to the 1.2 percentage point decrease in 2002. On net, Sierra Leone's fiscal burden of government score is 0.2 point better this year.
Government Intervention
Score: 2.0
The World Bank reports that the government consumed 19.5 percent of GDP in 2003, down from the 20.8 percent reported in the 2005 Index. As a result, Sierra Leone's government intervention score is 0.5 point better this year. In the same year, based on data from the Bank of Sierra Leone, Sierra Leone received 4.86 percent of its total revenues from state-owned enterprises and government ownership of property.
Monetary Policy
Score: 3.0
From 1995 to 2004, Sierra Leone's weighted average annual rate of inflation was 10.73 percent, up from the 4.78 percent from 1994 to 2003 reported in the 2005 Index. As a result, Sierra Leone's monetary policy score is 1 point worse this year.
Foreign Investment
Score: 4.0
Sierra Leone does not discriminate against foreign firms and does not impose any ownership restrictions on foreign firms in any sector. However, unofficial barriers are significant. According to the U.S. Department of Commerce, "the business climate has been hampered by a shortage of foreign exchange, corruption, devastated infrastructure and uncertainty resulting from the now ended 11-year civil war…. Many investors continue to be adversely affected by corruption within Government ranks. Both lower level officials and senior officials, including ministers, are known to harass successful businesses in order to extract bribes or other favors. Arbitrary and inconsistent application of laws and regulations concerning labor, import tariffs and other areas can adversely affect productivity and profitability." Non-citizens and foreign investors are not permitted to participate in certain local industries, including cement block manufacturing, granite and sandstone excavation, and manufacturing of certain consumer durable goods. The International Monetary Fund reports that both residents and non-residents may hold foreign exchange accounts subject to some restrictions. Payments and transfers are generally permitted but face quantitative limits and approval requirements in some instances. Most capital transactions involving capital and money market instruments and credit operations require the Bank of Sierra Leone's approval. Direct investment abroad by residents, including purchase of real estate, is prohibited.
Banking and Finance
Score: 4.0
According to First Initiative, "Sierra Leone's bloody civil war ravaged the country and the economy. With the return of peace in 2002, a viable financial sector is only now beginning to reemerge…. The financial system is dominated by the banking sector, which consists of six commercial banks (2003). Two commercial banks are state owned, one is privately owned by Sierra Leonean investors, and the three remaining banks are foreign owned." The U.S. Department of Commerce notes that credit is allocated on market terms and that "[l]egal, regulatory and accounting systems are consistent with international norms." According to the Economist Intelligence Unit, "Since the upturn in the security situation, the government majority-owned banks…have been instrumental in generating new business. But the quality of such business is questionable as many loans are believed to have been, and continue to be, offered with little or no security to politically well-connected people."
Wages and Prices
Score: 2.0
The government sets few prices and wages, but it does influence the price of utilities through state-owned firms and subsidies. The Economist Intelligence Unit reports that the government made some "weak efforts" to control rising rice prices in September 2003. The government sets a minimum wage.
Property Rights
Score: 5.0
Property is not secure in Sierra Leone. The Economist Intelligence Unit reports that judges "draw salaries but often lack the means to carry out their duties properly—for example, the judiciary is hampered in some of its work that has a political bearing, such as trying corruption cases, as the chief justice is appointed by the president (in accordance with the constitution)." According to the U.S. Department of State, "Traditional justice systems continued to supplement extensively the central government judiciary in cases involving family law, inheritance, and land tenure, especially in rural areas."
Regulation
Score: 5.0
According to the Economist Intelligence Unit, "The government of Ahmad Tejan Kabbah hopes to encourage investment by developing a range of incentives (including tax exemptions) for export- and resource-based industries, as well as for new investors, but weak local demand and foreign-exchange shortages are continuing to inhibit industrial expansion, while foreign companies are reluctant to invest in a country with such high levels of political risk." The government recently established a one-stop shop for business licenses in an effort to streamline the bureaucracy.
Informal Market
Score: 4.0
Transparency International's 2004 score for Sierra Leone is 2.3. Therefore, Sierra Leone's informal market score is 4 this year.
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Subject: Concerned, where would you have been should be the question
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 13:34:31 10/27/06 ()
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Concerned, after seeing those images, what all intellegent people saw is selfishness, ignorance and shamelessness. They therefore, fill ashamed for all who were thinking what people of your type have been thinking. There was no reason for any insane person to even remark because of what people of your type have been doing. Nonetheless, as civilization has not reached certain quarters, we the civlized have to indulge you, be patient with you until you reach our caliber. Otherwise, the world will lead in fracass. Considering my contributions here, considering the effectiveness with which I have carried my life, no criminal record of any kind and none among you to have come-up with any wrongdoing, it is left beyond words to express civilized people's appreciation for my contributions towards to growth and emancipation of people like you. But because you have not contributed anything worthy to the growth of the world, and because you do not have the know-how, you are left with sadistic and erresponsible questions to makebelieve that you too matter by putting worthless achievements in my face though you are aware of what I am capable of. But the fact that you have always lived your life in believing that only others can make contributions and you feed on it, you are flabargasted and cannot even understand simple human descency.
That is the difference between you and I. You do not know what to feel ashamed off nor do you know when to get involved. You mindset is of lower things while I think of bitter things that I have a right and resposibility to contribute to.
You see peoples eforts as funny when you are actually the joke. You look-up to Satan and mediocers for your information while I look upto God, governments and people who have made considerable contributions to the world for guidance and inspiration. While you look at isolated instances for your guindance, I look at the whole to base direct my decission-making.
While you hate everything I am good at that make a difference in my life and other people's life, I spare time to educate you to grow by showing you those who have and how they did it.
While you fake yourself into believing what unreal, I feed my brain with what is real. There is indeed a difference, can you see it? I mean with your brain.
Look, I am not reading even over. Can you do the same or are you proud to say the same? That is the difference between you and I. You are content with nothing, I believe there are those who have done it and if people like you whom when I go to schools to reach my potentials will wish to manipulate because they wish not to know of goodness but would want the world to remain in their small world by holding those who are capable even if the world is to fall appart they do not care, just that they stay in the way. Even when their very students and people around them are ashamed for them without them knowing but just that they have remained in this small world, they think all is well.
I am not reading over!
You see arrogance for pride, I see good character as pride worthy. That is the difference.
Asking for work where people who make millions a year are present when such a person don't make up to hundred thousand a year. Is that not funny? That shows that you are a joker especially what is going on about La Bambay. Are you the only one who does not know? Shame on you. Then check with a doctor something might be wrong with you.
How about that for Concerned!
Subject: Re: Concerned, where would you have been should be the question
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 13:55:04 10/27/06 ()
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Concerned, check that out and be ashamed for once and know that you are not think the way real people think,fool!
If I have hurt anyone I am not sorry. People should learn to be responsible to see what must be taken seriously; that is if they are serious at all.
Look who is asking about work! Concerned of all people.
Funny!!
Subject: Re: Concerned, where would you have been should be the question
From: Concerned
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Date Posted: 22:43:41 10/27/06 ()
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Message:
At least i do not post PORN
Subject: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 09:38:46 10/27/06 ()
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SLPP could not have ended a war which they started and supported and even assuming that they did it was their place to fix what they supported in breaking. The war was ended by the international community and the countless Nigerian Malian and other west african soldiers who made up the ECOMOG and the United nations.
This is pure and simple another SLPP fiction. Light weights need not respond
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: ok dok
To: All
Date Posted: 13:42:54 10/27/06 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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Message:
Alieu, you are really APC by all functions{brain,blood,tricks,characters you name all.I dont think you are doing well in life.I am a heavy weight.
Subject: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR - BUT DOES THAT REALLY MATTER
From: Steven Rogers
To: All
Date Posted: 08:34:53 10/28/06 ()
Email Address: nabieurogers@yahoo.com
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APC started the war...SLPP ended the war. Just as George W. Bush started the Iraq war...and someone would have to clean up his mess. Its as easy as that. Period.
But hey, that does not bestow credence to the prevalent decadence in Sierra Leone. It does not explicate the tremendous inequality in income distribution and people still thriving on less than $1 a day. It downright does not elucidate our Guinness book record for been the darkest country in a globalize world where electricity is a given. It certainly does not justify the seasoned corrupt practices in high/low places compounded by trumped up treason charges. It definitely refuses to explain why life-expectancy is 38, literacy rate 29%, and 70% of our population way below poverty line. Above all, it surely cannot bear to claim as been the only sub-Saharan African country that has undergone or continues to undergo civil strive. All these point to one fact. This is Sierra Leone. We are unique.
Therefore when people go to the polls in 2007, these vital statistics should be the real issues they should be armed with. Not wishy-washy issue like who was in power when the war ended or who started it. Whether those votes could change anything, in a country where the government is more than determined to succeed itself and cover up its ass is another subject for debate.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR - BUT DOES THAT REALLY MATTER
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 10:30:38 10/28/06 ()
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Whether those votes could change anything, in a country where the government is more than determined to succeed itself and cover up its ass is another subject for debate.
BINGO !!!!!!! SOMEONE IS WRITING SENSE AROUND HERE.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: M. Alieu iscandeari Esq
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Date Posted: 18:50:40 10/27/06 ()
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OK DOK,
I think that you misconstrued the meaning of the word heavy weight as used in my post. I did not by any chance mean the amount of money one has, rather I meant that the response of some of those amongst us with little or no grey matter to boast of should not come in to the issue because it will end up in cuss cuss. I have read your postings and judgeing by what I have read you are no light weight by my estimation, and that is judgiing your one liners which in mostr cases are subject appropriate. So where dod 7you come of with this idea of you doing better than me and me not doing well in life. Do you know me and what I have. I think not and so lets leave that alone and discuss the issues here posted. Stay warm whereever you are.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 22:48:40 10/27/06 ()
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Alieu i dont think you understood either.There is no sign of money mentioned.What i mean by not doing well is the way you think and say things.I dont know you by person but your background at mountain cut.
I am worm with down coat and pant.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: saswood
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Date Posted: 03:34:22 10/28/06 ()
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It is preposterous and an insult to those who stood arm in arm with Sierra leoneans to bring peace in the Country.
An impotent SLPP did not finish the war. It was the cry and massive sufferings of Sierra Leoneans that prompted all the warring parties to stop fighting and turn to the negotiating table.
We all know that the APC is a hated entity in the South east and it was very easy for the inhabitants in that region to join forces with the RUF to kick the APC out.
Foday Sankoh spent many years in Segbwema and its environs as a photographer. He married a woman from that community.
RUF got moral and physical support from disgruntled Sierra leoneans who opposed the APC.
The idea that the SLPP brough peace in our Country is a fallacy and there is no truth in it. Civilised nations mandated Kabbah and his supporters to sign the peace accord in Lome.
Did Johnny Paul Koroma overthrown the Tejan Kabbah government? The answer is no. The man was freed from Prison and given the mantle of leadership. Why the lies that the man took power from Kabbah.
He personally appeled to his hardened foghters to lay down their arms. Who challenged Foday Sankih in Feetown? It was Johnny Paul Koroma and his men who captured Foday Sankoh.
Those who talking that they are responsible for peace were sitting in their arm chairs.
It is true that the role Johnny Paul played in bring peace in our Country is greater than many of the big mouth so-called emissaries or government officials.
Nobody will distort the history of the dastardly war which was engineered by people who hate the former status quo.
Shame on you. Those that are lying and trying to make us believe that the vengeful SLPP brough peace.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Frank First
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Date Posted: 13:27:55 10/27/06 ()
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Your argument is so feeble and implausible that you sound utterly empty about the history of Sierra Leone's war.
The facts are the war started in 1991 during APC rule. Momoh had had in place an interim government, anticipating elections under the 1991 constitution. SLPP therefore had no interest in bringing about a war when it was all too clear that they were going to emerge winners at the next elections. In fact it was the APC who it is believed created the war in the heart of mendeland so that the mmendes would be decimated and lose numerically in the elections that were slated for 1992. It was an open secret that the APC's lukewarm approach to ending the war was because they thought that mendeland would be left so battered that no stroing political element or threat could emerge from that part of the country.
Alieu, don't re-awaken sentiments that could lead to another round of retaliation for hurtful things done in mendeland by pillaging and war-mongering APC beasts!
The truth is APC could not end the war and so the military guys staged a coup which brought in the NPRC. They too were not able to end the war.
The war only came to an end in 2002 following strategies the SLPP leadership had put in place. Some of those strategies included the invitation of the UN and british forces, coupled with aggressive local militia groups under the umbrella of CDF.
On 18th January 2002 Kabbah declared the end of the war. What better evidence do you need to show that it was Kabbah of SLPP not Momoh of APC who ended the war and made a declaration to the effect?
You sound as the counterfeit of Alieu! Go read some more history, ma man.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 19:52:03 10/27/06 ()
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"What better evidence do you need to show that it was Kabbah of SLPP not Momoh of APC"
Never said that the APC did anything to help stop the war. Go back and read what I said. Now lets get to the issue of the following statements.
"Alieu, don't re-awaken sentiments that could lead to another round of retaliation for hurtful things done in mendeland by pillaging and war-mongering APC beasts!"
Are you talking about APC beasts like JB Dauda, Sama Banya, Bubuakei Jabbie and a host of others who are now FIRMLY within the SLPP fold, or are you talking about some non mende people who won elections in mende land and did all these things in the name of the APC. If you note my post did not make any mention of mendes for good reason. I do not want the responses to be based on tribal affiliations but rather on the issues germane to the debate.
Now on the issues I challenge you to find me wanmting on any issue I discuss here because I have documentary and or other evideniary proof of what I say. The SLPP contributed to the war effort of the RUF and that is a fact that you cannot deny. If you deny that then I ask that you again go and review the testimony of his excellency the president of sierra leone, who speaking to the TRC in his capacity as the president and head of the SLPP party testified that many in the SLPP supported the war brought by the RUF. IN fact my friend Foday Sankoh was featured in many videos with a
green bandana on his neck symbolizing his affiliation with the SLPP. Further you may not know or if you do may not admit that their was some symbolical significance to the few broom sticks waved by both Bio and Foday sankoh at each other during Lome talks. I urge you to ask for a videographer called Manley. He lresides somewhere in the east coast and he has all the videos that will whet you appetite and change your mind set. I am sure that your present poosition is taken out of ignorance of the facts and the truth. I believe that you are an intelligent man and that you will be able to make up your mind with regards to the evidence when it is made available for you to see.
Subject: Re
From: Pajvombo
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Date Posted: 17:32:11 10/27/06 ()
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Facts First wrote:
"The facts are the war started in 1991 during APC rule."
You are so right.
The war started during the A.P.C rule does not necessarily mean A.P.C. brought the war, just as
Peace coming to Sierra Leone during the SLPP rule does not mean
SLPP brought peace to the country.
Both incidents just happened during the regimes of different parties.
John Leigh,
how could PMDC have brought peace when they were not even in existence. A.P.C definitely could not have because they as a party did not have the mandate to.
The people of Sierra Leone with the help of the International communities brought peace.
Subject: Re: Re
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 12:31:35 10/28/06 ()
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Dear Mr. Pajavombo:
My response to your comment: "John Leigh,how could PMDC have brought peace when they were not even in existence" is as follows:
1. No one has required PMDC to account for not bringing peace to SL. You yourself has made it plain that such a request would make no sense since PMDC wasn't in existence at the relevent time.
The relevant issue I rasised regarding PMDC is this: what role, if any, did the individuals now constituting PMDC's leadership, including your Mr. Margai, played during the interregnum where ever they might have been? I have Mr. Margai on record as residing in Guinea during the relevant time. How did he help? How about those who were in the USA at the time? What were their contributions to pease?
2. I do not agree with you that "A.P.C definitely could not have because they as a party did not have the mandate to."
You do not have to have a mandate to govern before you can help your people put an end to wrongdoing. It is an outrageous calamity. Accordingly, many SLeoneans, on their own motion, formed or joined organizations to fight the coupligans. Hunters across our land, regardless of tribe or religion, formed defence groups to fight the barbarians. There was the Committee for the Restoration of Democracy in DC; Student groups in SL, etc.
Regarding the APC, my recollection is this: the party appeared split. Gen. Momoh and his dunce opportunistic followers were with the brutal Foot of State and his blood-thirsty crew. Some were dealt with by the populace, e.g. Abu Black. One APC lawyer and MP had his offices at Glocester Street, opposite the General Post Office Building, burnt., etc.
Some APC thugs even 'beat pan' at us embassy workers on 19th St., NW, DC. on a number of occasion. One APC Big Wig lawyer protested to US Immigration after the service decided to process TPS application in the embassy premises.
The same lawyer unsuccessfully helped his client to falsely label the war in SLeone as a tribal war between Limbas and Mendes. Of course, I dealt with that rubbish.
Other APCers were quiet but I believe, secretly hoping that the coup will succeed but got upset with the RUF alliance. etc.
APC democrats should have come out publically and join other democrats, regardless of Party, to fight the rapists, maimers, killers, arsonists, thieves and blood drinkers. It is quite possible that a number of APCers went public and contributed to peace. I do not know them but would like to. Further, I am not aware of any public statement by the APC objecting to the AFRC regime. If any, I will happily stand to be corrected.
Finally, "The people of Sierra Leone with the help of the International communities brought peace."
You are partly correct here only because your credits are incomplete.
Our people were indeed heroic. They shut down government offices, schools, businesses and banks, etc. They held public, high-risk demonstrations repeatedly. They provided officials, including yours truly, radio 98 and the exile government in Conakry, etc., with timely, accurate and highly valuable information at great risks re coupligan misdeeds, secrets, meetings and locat1ons.
Hence the coup cabinet was nearly wiped out in Cockril by ECOMOG bombing one morning; and a coupligan would-be Plenipotentiary, Dr. Phillip Sesay, was arrested at Kennedy Airport on December 19, 1997 - with approximately the exact amount of AFRC-stolen public funds found in his pockets as was provided to us by State House personnel opposed to the barbarism of the savage coupligans.
Despite rapes, torture, beatings, sexual/domestic servitude and killings, our people never surrendered and never cooperated with that notorious Foot of State and his despicable crew.
I agree with you that the international community helped us tremendously. And lets face it, without their help and dispositive intervention, all our peoples' efforts might have been in vain.
But that was not all. You should have given some credit to the SLPP Adminstration of President Kabbah.
It was his government that brought the sufferings of our people to the attention of the international community. It was his administration that persuaded the international community to intervene. It was his government that supervised the intervention. It was his government that pushed the rebels to Lome. It was his government that negotiated with thr RUF to craft the Lome Accords. Thereafter, it was his government that disarmed, demoblized and re-integrated the ex-combatants into civilian society.
In sum, it was his government that brought peace by ending the war and obtaining international humanitarian aide to help our desperate people cope with the state of pennilessness that the coupligans imposed upon our people.
The UN investment alone was approximately $2.8 billion in securing the peace in SL. British expenditures were in addition to that; not to mention the direct American humongus humanitatarion aid.
The international community's huge investment in the peace in SL was due to two things: (i) the nature of the uncalled for coupligan/rebel barbarism that shocked the conscience of humankind worldwide and (ii) the high credibilty of the SLPP Administration at the time.
In conclusion, I will share with you one of the fundamental rules of civilization. It is very simple:
"Give credit where credit is due." - Thanks. - JL
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 15:55:50 10/27/06 ()
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Frank First,
Who created/organized and gave support to the early appearance of the RUF? The SLPP. Propaganda is not historical fact. The Facts are: The slpp organized the RUF.
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:55:06 10/27/06 ()
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Gentlemen:
I agree with you that SLPP did not end the war. However, that is - and has been and will be - the popular perception around the country.
The correct claim should instead be that it is the SLPP GOVERNMENT of Tejan Kabbah that brought peace to the country by evicting the AFRC/RUF regime; returning to power in Freetown; forcing the rebels to Lome to negotiate and sign a peace agreement and then bursted up Sankoh and his thugs when he overreached in May 2000; disarmed and demoblized all the combatants and reintegrated them into our society; obtaining TPS in the US and its equivalent in Europe for SL refugees and finally bringing all refugees home from neighboring countries.
True, the international community, including neighboring states helped immensely by playing a very large role in ending the war and in ushering peace. UK, UN, Nigeria, Ghana, Senegal, Mali and last but not least, Guinea helped a lot. As we know, Guinean forces made mincemeat of rebels from Pamalap to Makeni and all around the Eastern horn of SLeone in Kissi country, centering around Guekedou and Koindu areas, during 1999-2000.
All of the above impressive accomplishmements were the direct result of the initiatives conceived, implemented and managed under the leadership of the SLPP GOVERNMENT. And the principal players were either genuine SLPP members or were hired by the SLPP GOVERNMENT.
The above record is the foundation upon which the widespread public perception of SLPP's peace-earning role rests.
APC did nothing for peace that I know of. Many of its adherents wanted their Foot of State, Johnny P. Koroma, to succeed with his bloody, crazy unpopular, rubbish coup. Koroma even had the last APC president, Gen. Momoh, negotiate for his savage regime (see the Conakry Accords). Prominent APC members were the power behind Sierra Leone's most savage regime.
I also know that it was the APC KDDA Supremes that were up to their eyeballs in corruption, nepotism, favoritism, discrimination, marginalization and extreme backwardness for approximately a quarter century of malevolent governance. Then came dunce-like Momoh's stupid and greedy Ekutay tribal marginalizers. Their greed, selfishness, incompetence, ignorance and Tombo Dumbo Mumbo stupidity helped provoked the viciousness that characterized much of the crimes of the war.
PMDC was not even in existence when peace came to our country. Their Leader whiled his time away in Conakry during the war. Even during wartime, he spent his time jockeying and ploting to succeed Tejan Kabbah as SLPP Leaders while others slaved to end the catastrophic suffering of our people.
What kind of man is this flunky leader? He should account for whatever role he might have played in the peace process. Let him release his bio-data for public inspection.
I was in the thick of things at the time and I know he was nowhere to be seen or heard on war-and-peace issues during those troubled years. He was as silent as a grave.
Yes, yes I agree with you: SLPP did not bring peace. But it is the SLPP GOVERNMENT that gave us peace - not APC, not PMDC, not AFRC or RUF. Hence the correct perception articulated by Imam Turay last Sunday.
Thank you. JL
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Yaya Fanusies
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Date Posted: 16:02:26 10/27/06 ()
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Mr. John Leigh:
Please state the full names of the prominent APC MEMBERS who you claimed were the backers of the John Paul Koroma regime(AFRC).
Give the names Now!!!!!!!!!
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: August 18
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Date Posted: 22:41:31 10/27/06 ()
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More names Victor Foh.. APC secretary General
Do you want more?
Mek ar know so ar go gee una more names...
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: September
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Date Posted: 22:52:28 10/27/06 ()
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Dont forget that Victor Foh was a political prisoner at the time of the AFRC coup. I believe that he was facing a charge of treason or some capital charge. If it were not for the AFRC coup he would not have been alive because it was the AFRC coup that released him from jail.
Now if you were in jail about to lose your life would you join that group of people that broke you out of jail or would you wait for the day you get killed by those who put you there in the first place.
So gee we some more names if you can.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: LIE
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Date Posted: 23:43:22 10/27/06 ()
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Victyor Foh was not in prison at all before the AFRc coup. What are you talking about? Are you in Mars?
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: August 18
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Date Posted: 00:29:28 10/28/06 ()
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Victor Foh was a panelist on SLBS with Smith( Anchor)
the morning of August 18... His famous quote? " dem wan yah dem feel say AFRC govenment nar Tear gas Government"
We ended up loosing students.....
nar wae Kabbah im priority nor straight.. Foh should be a dead man...
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:34:35 10/27/06 ()
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Dear Dr. Fanusie:
Didn't I mention Gen. J. Momoh? I am not going beyond that. Thanks. - JL
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Moijue
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Date Posted: 12:22:17 10/27/06 ()
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JEL, First i must COMMEND u for the role you played during the AFRC period.For that iw ill always hold u in high esteem even in my grave.
Now, If Margai was really interested in power at all cost he would have taken position in AFRC as it was offered to him.Not only was he offered position in the AFRC he was even promised all the MARGAI PROPERTY that APC seizes but he refused all this to embrace DEMOCRACY and fled to Guinea, now what kind of man is that- I call that a patriot and better judge.IF he did not play any role be rest assued Kabba would not have appointed him minister on his return.TO ME YOUR CHOSEN LEADER Berewa played no role for me in the AFRC LOSING POWER.You played a better role than Berewa.
Ask those in Guinea they will tell u his role, which u cannot compare with that of Berewa who was more in CHICAGO than Guinea.
Remember i was also in the thick of things expecially in UK,that my abode was used as the base of the resistance.Time will come to explain more.Ask President Kabba why he appointed Margai and took him TO the signing of the peace accord?
Thank you. JL
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 14:09:22 10/27/06 ()
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Dear Moijue:
I never claimed that your Mr. Margai was "interested in power at all cost". I merely said he was nowehere to be seen and/or heard during those troubled times.
Besides, a number of people - including me - were offered positions in the AFRC disaster regime. So, such was never a big deal. Everyone knew that the coupmongers were desperate and only wanted to use people and then dump them at their convenience.
Next, I am not going to ask President Kabbah anything about Mr. Margai's alleged trip with him to Lome. Thats your job!
If your man played any significant role in the war-and-peace process let him include a narrative in his overdue bio-data. I am still waiting for this document.
Berewa played a key role in Guinea as well as in Lome. He was the closest key adviser to the president. He lobbied the US Adminstration and the Congress and the UN at the height of the calamity in SLeone. Dr. Jonah took him around in New York. I did likewise in DC.
Last but not least, Mr. Berewa patiently negotiated with crazy savage Sankoh without ever once loosing his cool; and the bait he fed Sankoh - creating a natural resources agency and putting Sankoh to head it with the notional rank of VP - proved to be Sankoh's own undoing because it whetted Sankoh's insatiable appetite for power, and he ended up overreaching his lawful limitation. Hence, Sankoh and his thugs got bursted - end of war.
What exactly did your man do during the entire interregnum other than whiling away his time uselessly dreaming of succeeding into Mr. Kabbah's shoes on the power of his birth right entitlements - and I am told, worrying about my ascendancy? All my very best. - JL
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 02:14:41 10/28/06 ()
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Mr. Leigh, are you saying that if you did not hear someone during that period then he did not contribute to the restoration of Kabbah's government? I never heard that you were offered a job with the AFRC. Does that mean you were not offered a job? Of course not.
I am sure you would appreciate that not everybody was in the limelight during that period, but there were individuals behind the scene working ceaselessly to restore normalcy in SL. Many we will never hear of their names.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 12:38:03 10/28/06 ()
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Dear Mr. Moinina:
You are correct. Many people helped quietly. In his expected bio-data, your illustrious leader may want to share his behind-the-scenes role during the interregnum. It might be a good read. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Judge Jury
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Date Posted: 21:43:46 10/27/06 ()
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'and I am told, worrying about my ascendancy? ';
John Leigh, Is this your beef with Charles?
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 12:39:57 10/28/06 ()
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No.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Salone
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Date Posted: 17:39:52 10/27/06 ()
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John,
You and the people you named to have played a role in bringing peace to the country were those paid to do the job.
So whats the big deal?
You never lost a pin in Sierra Leone. Margai you are so obssesed with paid a heavy price during the war.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 12:44:11 10/28/06 ()
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Dear Salone:
Fighting a coup - a savage coup at that - was never my job. And I was never paid for the job I did helping to overthrow the overthrowers and restoring the government to its rightful place.
Please properly investigate the work of an ambassador.
Thanks for your intervention. - JL
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Allie Rainbow
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Date Posted: 10:56:23 10/27/06 ()
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To say that it was SLPP that ended the War is nothing but a Political Spin;
Unlike the conditions that obtained under it's predecessors,the War escalated Under SLPP Rule to a proportion where every Provincial capital in addition to the Country's Capital was Lost to Insurgents Control.
Furthermore,The government in power at the end of the war was a Coalition of politicians belonging to SLPP,Sorbeh,UNPP,APC,Unity Party,AFRC,RUF etc,etc,....
These politicians in addition to the SLPP take Full credit for the success of the Peace process!
"Nor to SLPP Wan Grain Stop Di War"
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 14:49:50 10/27/06 ()
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Dear Mr. Allie Rainbow:
There is no political spin whatsoever in the widespread popular perception that it is the SLPP GOVERNMENT that brought peace to SLeone. If that perception was a political spin, the people would know.
I respectfully invite you to tell Sierra Leoneans at home that it was PDP, UNDP, APC and other Alphabet soup parties that helped SLPP bring peace to your country.
Next, your claim that "the War escalated Under SLPP Rule to a proportion where every Provincial capital in addition to the Country's Capital was Lost to Insurgents Control" is a half-truth.
The test is: why did the war escalate and spread to all provinces?
First, there was a savage coup led by APC thugs and militarilists during which the SLPP government went into exile. The coupligans said they wanted peace! The coupligans' idea for peace was to invite rapists, killers, maimers, arsonists, thieves and cut hand specialists to join them in governing their captive victims. This AFRC decision will go down in history as one of the world's must stupid decisions by a Foot of State.
Those lowlifers proceeded to rape and kill and burn and cut hands. They even desecrated embassies. This has forced SLeoneans to become refugees around the world and have to go to other countries for visas at huge expense and inconvenience.
Second, the population resisted the savages and never backed down no matter how brutal the coupligans were. So the war spread nation-wide.
Third, the coupligans were overthrown even after APC Momoh and other APC types tried desperately to help them keep illicit power violently. Those criminals then spread the war to all corners of Sierra Leone again. Most of the time their target was defenceless civilians.
The grand coalition Unity Government that SoloB negotiated in Lome did not change the fact that it was SLPP government policies that brought in the peace and the humanitarian aid to help cushion the pennilessness into which our people had been deposited by APC regimes and violent coupligan regimes sympathetic to the APC.
It is thus absolutely fair and reasonable for SLPP to take full credit of bringing peace to our country.
Thanks for your attention. - JL
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Brah
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Date Posted: 03:45:03 10/28/06 ()
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Is this not one of your many tricks to deceive Sierra leoneans that the SLPP brought peace?
For how long are you going to full the citizenry?
We still remember, when the SLPP accused Rev. Jesse Jackson for siding with the RUF.
He did tell the SLPP to stop fighting and talk with Foday Sankoh. All what you did at that time, is to lie that the distinguished Man liked Foday Sankoh to Mandele.
Kabbah is a vengeful man. He has not got a spirit of compassion and love. He was determined to win peace through the barrel of the gun.
After, our compatriots defeat his kamajors and his Sani Abacha's army, he quickly subdued and allow peace talks.
Nobody will distort the war history.
The real truth of the war is being compiled and when it is release, some of you will bow your headin shame.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 13:06:43 10/28/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. Brah:
Obviously, we were not on the same side of the war but please be assured that nobody is trying to fool the SL citizenry. Certainly not me.
Jackson was an officious intermedler. He indeed boasted that the devil himself, Mr. Foday Sankoh, was another Mandela. I still have the C-SPAN video tape on the subject.
Jackson (and US REP Donald Payne) was in bed with Charles Taylor throughout the war.
Jackson knew that the USA had invested $100 million to retrain seven ECOMOG Battalions (5 Nigerians, 1 Senegalese & 1 Ghananian) as paratroopers with warplanes to drop them behind enemy lines and catch the barbarian inside their bafas while raping or feasting or sleeping. My information is that Jackson rushed to West Africa, took Dr. Jonah's seat in the US Ambassador's plane in Accra and pressed President Kabbah to agree on negotiations during their flight to Lome.
President Kabbah did not want to win through the barrel of the gun as you have falsely claimed. If he did, he would have accepted the seven ECOMOG battalions as the final solution. He and others were tired of the unending bloodshed of ordinary people, especially the cut belleh to determine the gender of unborn fetuses, an RUF specialty.
Besides, I suspect that top SLPPers knew that Foday Sankoh was uncivilized and that upon the slightest temptation, he would over reach. And so it came to pass that he was put in charge of al SL natural resources. Thanks. - JL
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: SLPP GEORGIA CHAPTER
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Date Posted: 10:34:08 10/28/06 ()
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This is Saidu Bangura making this post. This is unbelievable our own publicity secretary using another name to defend the RUF
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 22:59:44 10/27/06 ()
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"First, there was a savage coup led by APC thugs and militarilists during which the SLPP government went into exile."
John is it fair to blame the APC for the AFRC coup when only a handful of members of the APC were there, compared to the plethora of RUF members now masquerading as members of the SLPP.
"It is thus absolutely fair and reasonable for SLPP to take full credit of bringing peace to our country."
Okay fair is fair, we would give you the slpp the acolades for bringing peace to sa lone if you would admit that you have as we say in the law, "unclean hands" with regards to the formation of the RUF in its initial stages.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 13:17:49 10/28/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Al:
The presence of even only a "handful" of APCers in the AFRC told a wonderful story as I explained elsewhere. Besides, Johnny P. Koroma and his AFRC coupligans were groomed by APC big wigs, taken them out of Gen. Momoh's village (Binkolo) and putting them in the military on a favoritism/nepotistic basis. They then advised them during the coup.
And what was glaring, is that no one in the APC democratic wing (if ever there was such a wing)ever issued a public statement condemning the coup or expressing any opposition to the savage activities of the coupligans/rebels. There might have been something as such but I am not aware of any such protest statement.
Thanks. Will call you later today. JL
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 17:33:48 10/29/06 ()
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I condemned the coup and stood by you in condemning the coup John and I am APC.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Allie Rainbow
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Date Posted: 16:41:59 10/27/06 ()
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Ambassador leigh Wrote
"The test is: why did the war escalate and spread to all provinces?"
The Answer is that the War escalated to Freetown and other Provincial Headquarters because the SLPP was WEAK on Security: Government Officials recieved information several days before the AFRC Coup and Did Nothing to Stop it.And Uptil this day no one in the SLPP has taken responsibility for the Security Blunder!
After the Coup took place, No SLPP Troops or Loyal Forces put up any resistance to Challenge the Sobels anywhere in the Country,Instead they Fled to Guinea like other SLPP Supporters and Leaders to Join the President in Exile;
On the other hand Chief Norman who went to Liberia to Organize a resistance has been railroaded and remains incacerated.
Also,Don't forget that it was The Grand coalition Government that Solo B negotiated in Lome that enabled the Cessation of hostilities and not a Military Defeat;...Considering also that the CDF comprised of all Parties and the International Military Forces and Mercenaries that assisted them to overthrow the Junta were not SLPP Forces,it is unreasonable for SLPP to take full credit of bringing Peace to our Country.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Mr. Leigh is correct
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Date Posted: 11:11:53 10/28/06 ()
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The man said the SLPP-led GoSL, and not the SLPP (as a political party) brought an end to the war and that is correct. A fact that is written in our recent history.
Why is the truth so hard to understand by you hateful Salone people?
As soon as the acronym / letters, SLPP, is mentioned, you folks lose your mental faculties disparagingly in your attempts to besmear the SLPP unnecessarily. How so?
The war would NEVER have been waged if your apc did the right thing by the peoples of Sierra Leone.
So, who made it possible for that nasty period in our history to occur? Your apc.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Allie Rainbow
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Date Posted: 12:54:27 10/28/06 ()
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First of all I do not belong to any political Party; Secondly it would help if you advise SLPP activists to distinguish between an SLPP led Government and an SLPP party when bringing up issues like the War during Political Campaign...People like us only respond to the spins and Bunkums intended to mislead.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Gustav Brown
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Date Posted: 13:31:41 10/27/06 ()
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Allie Rainbow, you better shape up or shut up if you don't know what you are talking about!
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Allie Rainbow
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Date Posted: 18:45:47 10/27/06 ()
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I will not respond to you because of your maladroitness;
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Patriot in training
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Date Posted: 12:33:25 10/27/06 ()
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We can agree that no particular or specific group or individual was entirely responsible for ending the war. Most importantly though, ALL Sierra Leoneans were responsible for the reasons behind the war and the war itself. Sierra Leoneans need to hold themselves and their leaders more accountable regardless of the cost!
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Seray-Wurie
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Date Posted: 17:42:12 10/27/06 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
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Message:
Alieu,
Thanks for stimulating such interesting exchanges, also to our forum provider, O'Thaim Kabs I say, "Momo Yoh"
Ambassador John Leigh did a lot especially abroad but I wonder why he said Kenie Charles Margai did nothing. APC's Eddie Turay must have done something too whilst in Conakry. SL people fled to many places regardless of their political opinion.
Are we comparing apples and bananas? or Is it time for us to be genuine and patriotic?
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 13:27:30 10/28/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. Seray-Wurie:
I apologize if I stated that Mr. Margai did nothing during the interregnum.
What I meant to say - and I believe I so stated - is that I am not aware of whatever he might have done. I have invited him to tell us what he did and how he occupied himself during the war-and-peace process.
Moijue mentioned that he was on a trip with Prez Kabbah to Lome. I would be delighted to hear Mr. Margai's story. Thank you. JL
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: seydouba
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Date Posted: 20:54:24 10/27/06 ()
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I have been reading with great amazement on who brought peace to our beloved Sierra Leone.
Let it be known that SLPP was forced by UNCLE SAM to deal with RUF ie workout a peace plan or else they SLPP will become a thing of the past.It was an ULTIMATUM from UNCL SAM (YOU ARE WITH US OR AGAINST US)
You can Ask Tejan Kabba who called him up on the phone instructing him to go to the Peace conference.
Tejan Kabba is not a man of peace ,he is a deceitful man.He was not happy with the peace deal that was forced upon SLPP by UNCLE SAM.
JOHN BULL was also advise that they should follow suit in accepting the peace deal that was been proposed by BIG Brother.Big Brother was ready to your the BIG STICK if SLPP refuse to cooperate with the said proposal.They the SLPP were guided through the peace process and receive daily instructions from the FIRM.
My source will remain ANNON.
Please JOhn Leigh stop fulling your self as it was the arm twisting by the FIRM that brought Peace to Sierra Leone.
Please ASK Tejan Kabba and his Buddy James JONAH.
Time will tell.
Lonta
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 14:28:37 10/28/06 ()
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Dear Mr. seydouba:
NO ultimatum was issued by Uncle Sam. After RUF atrocities became common knowledge inside Congress and within the US Adminstration, Uncle Sam wanted the RUF wiped out.
The power-sharing agreement was put in place by the porteges of Rep. Donald Payne, friend of Charles Taylor. I told State that their negotiating position was not viable and would only be used as a stepping stone by Taylor and the RUF.
When US Congressmen saw the agreement, they were livid and when the opportunity arose, they went after Taylor.
-JL
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: seydouba
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Date Posted: 16:08:53 10/28/06 ()
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JL.
Please note that Rep. Payne was a "fringe player" during the period under review...Please your Buddy Kabba and Johan who initiated that call from Uncle SAM...That is a well kept secret by Kabba and Jonah.
Please do as I have advise you to do then you will learn alot about the war and the underlining players.
This is another assignment...I have provided the clue, so do your assignment.
Hope to hear from your ASAP.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 10:53:42 10/29/06 ()
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Dear Mr. Seydouba:
Rep. Payne was not a bit player at the time inclusive of Lome and until early 2000.
At all relevant times, the Democratic party was a minority in the House of Reps. They were 6 short of a majority. Clinton needed complete unity of support from his party to back his legislative agenda. That unity plus a few dissident Republicans supporting him, made his life tolerable.
To obtain Congressional Democratic unity, the Clinton Administration delegated a lot of authority to various factions in Congress. For example, the Black Caucus was put in charge of policy making for Africa. Donald Payne was chair of the Black Caucus Africa Committee and he blocked SLeone every part of the way. His key assistant, Belozo Harvey, was one of Taylor's lobbists in DC.
At the time, the way the BCaucus worked was to show great deference to its committee chairs because individual Black Reps were simply overwhelmed by constituency work was because those constituencies were overloaded with intrackable problems: mass unemployment; gang wars, drug dealings, teenage pregnancies, common crimes, civil rights violations, strikes, low wages, domestic violence, etc. etc. Hence, each Black Rep focused on his/her constituents problems and gave committee chairs free hands.
Only Rep. Cynthia McKinley of Georgia and one or two others reps. had the time and strength to challenge Payne. So he had his way every time.
Our saviors were white Democrats led by Reps. Tony Hall of Ohio and Frank Wolfe of Vienna, VA and the entire Republican Party. The Republican involvement came about this way.
An American Missionary based in Kabala had seen me on CNN in Freetown and heard me on BBC and VOA blasting Taylor. He ah also witnessed first hand ARFC/RUF atrocities in Kionadugu District. On a trip home, he visited me in DC and introduced me to his Republican congressman from Grand Rapids, MI. From that beginning, the entire Republican Party stood squarely on the side of SLeone.
Pyne used his power to back Taylor. Earlier he had placed his porteges in top West African positions at the State Dept. They had Golley in prior to Lome to agree on a negotiating strategy. Payne was in his element. I told his porteges that Lome will blow in their faces because RUF/Taylor will see it as a stepping stone.
Pyne became marginalized only after Congress and later the Clinton Adminstration accepted the SL EMbassy's contention that the RUF war was not a civil to cleanse SLeone of corruption and usher in genuine democracy but it was in fact a war of plunder for SL natural resources, mainly diamonds, which war was camougflaged as a civil war to fight corruption.
In January 2000, the US Deputy Secretary of State, Thoms Pickering, called me at the embasy to confirm this. He told me that CIA has records to show that in 1999 alone Charles Taylor exported 6 million carats of diamonds. 60% out of Monrovia and 40% via Burkina Faso. He said the CIA knows that Liberian maximum diamond production was around 150,000 carats, not 6 million.
Please do not under rate Pyane's damage to SLeone.
Taylor spent nearly $4 million a year to finance his protection and support in the US. SL Embassy had only up $500,000 annually - and some of this was stolen by embassy crooks. Yet we won!! In time Payne came to respect your embassy. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 08:42:43 10/30/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Mr. seydouba:
You are wrong. At the relevant time, the Clinton Administration was relatively weak and its foreign policy attention was focused on Kosovo and elsewhere in the Balkans. It stood by while the Hutus slaughtered the Tutsies. It even cared less about West Africa.
It was Black Americans, led by Donald Payne & Rev. Jackson, etc. (and the Liberian Lobby machine) that called the shots in Africa (Liberia)for America.
For your information, UK and USA are unlikely to fight for turf in West Africa. They've got it down pat for the area. In fact, it was the USA that pushed UK to send an expeditionary force to SL as its former colony. USA took care of Liberia as its client state.
The power-sharing clause in the Lome Accords came direct from Taylor. US Blacks pushed it hard. Clinton accepted it lock, stock and barrel.
I saw the details in a meeting at State Dept. prior to Lome and protested. Rev. Jackson was dispatched to Accra to proposition Prez. Kabbah. Jackson took Dr. Jonah's seat in the US Government. Jonah remained in Accra while Jackson allegedly harrangued Kabbah on the flight to and in Lome.
Meanwhile, I was in DC pressing for the seven ECOMOG paratrooper divisions to go flush the armed savages out of their bafas.
Anyway, 'all's well that ends well!' Lome turned out ok for SL because Foday Sankoh Cuthand Killer Cannibal overreached.
This discussion has now been exhausted. Thank you very much and goodbye. - JL
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: seydouba
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Date Posted: 00:49:52 10/30/06 ()
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Mr JEL,
That is you own side of the story...What about Kabba's own side of this mystery.I will still say that the call from some one ,some where within the US Gov't that force Kabba to deal with RUF.Kabba never informed you nor his cabinet but decided to accept the proposals that led to the LOME Peace deal.
For that reason ,the populace was surprise by Kabba's 180 degrees turn around.
JEL, you may not be aware of that call because your
were kept in the dark by Johan and Tejan Kabba.Nonetheless,please ask James Jonah as you and Kabba are not in good terms.
It shows that the war was big than Taylor and Sankoh.
Uncle SAM was determine to show that they can use the big stick to get things done there own way.
It was a regional issue between Uncle Sam and John Bull...Uncle Sam was ready to protect its turf come what may.It was a show of force by Big Brother(Uncle Sam)
So it shows that Rep Payne was keep out of the loop as he was not informed about the new strategy to be implemented.I awaits your feedback from James Jonah...
Cheers
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 11:27:51 10/28/06 ()
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Seydouba, please answer this question for me:
Who or what constitutes the "FIRM" as you have indicated?
I know Uncle Sam is the USA - led by Mr. Clinton at that time.
I know John Bull is Britain - led by Mr. Blair.
But the FIRM? I don't know about the "FIRM".
Could the "FIRM" consist of the international corporations, merchants of death, and the like, that sustained your ruf through Charlie Cokehead Taylor, and Foday Laimpay?
Please tell us, as you are/were part and parcel of the mayhem that destroyed of our peoples lives and our homeland.
Where is William Bangura, aka Farrah Marrah? He also knows a thing or two about this issue.
You are your own source, so cut out the nonsense about; "My source will remain ANNON".
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: seydouba
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Date Posted: 16:02:28 10/28/06 ()
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Sengbe,
Please take a break from your academic chores and read some Novels by TOM Clancy.You will then know who the FIRM is.It is your assignmment...GO figure out ,as I have given you a clue.
You will be graded accordingly.
Hope to hear from you ASAP.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 18:45:58 10/28/06 ()
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Seydouba, I don't have time to read that voluminous novel ASAP. It would be helpful if you can relate the constitution of the "FIRM" as stipulated in your posting above for the purposes of this debate.
Bra lef for dodge we question dem nar dis forum. Please break this habit. Nar so Farrah sef tan. Why?
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: seydouba
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Date Posted: 19:16:19 10/28/06 ()
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Sengbe,
If you do not have time to read a novel that reveals the inner working of some western go'vt., then you have no business in talking politics...Research is the objective here.
I cannot spoon feed you.Maybe you can ask your buddy Pa Javombo or APH.They might help you.
I will have to sent you to detention for failing to your assignment.
You have been warn...LOL
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 23:28:00 10/28/06 ()
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Seydouba, I do not have to read a Tom Clancy NOVEL to know the "inner working of some western go'vt". I work for one. The greatest country in the world. I do not trust writers of fiction.
You are merely trying to shirk your responsibility of clarifying your avowed statements on this forum, and that does not make you a good debater. This means that you have no business discussing political issues on this forum and elsewhere.
Do you ever revise your written statements on this forum? I would if I were you.
I guess I am out of detention now.
Where is your Themne brother, William Bangura, aka Farrah Marrah?
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: seydouba
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Date Posted: 01:43:35 10/29/06 ()
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Sengbe,
The Firm...Langley.
This is another clue.I will have to suspend you for failing to do your assignment.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: IDIOT
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Date Posted: 09:57:14 10/29/06 ()
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YOU WASTING YOUR TIME MY FRIEND SEYDOUBA. THIS IS ONE DUMB ASS PHd. HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO FIGURE THAT OUT IN A THOUSAND LIFE TIMES.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Allie Rainbow
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Date Posted: 22:21:28 10/27/06 ()
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How Can the SLPP Take Credit For Ending The Sa Lone War when the Plan for Peace Which was Inspired and orchestrated By the International Community Was Not an SLPP BrainChild?
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Steven Rogers
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Date Posted: 08:55:45 10/28/06 ()
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The people of Sierra Leone actually ended the war. And let me go on record for saying this: any type of government would have ended that war, with the kind of resolve the people had. They paid the price dearly with their blood, starvation,possession,future, etc. Its absolutely incomparable to the merry-go-round-slick diplomacy that obtained at the time. I personally would have ended that war with Sierra Leoneans having my back as they did with SLPP. Next Topic.
Subject: Re: SLPP DID NOT END THE WAR
From: Kenema
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Date Posted: 04:15:04 10/29/06 ()
Email Address: mozkamara@yahoo.com
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Message:
The phrase ‘SLPP ending the war’ propels an erroneous massage, and needs more clarity…. let me start by asking a question, which of these two wars are we talking about
i. the barbaric RUF propagated [1991 – 2002]
ii. or the war declared by His Excellency the President of Sierra Leone [Jan 2002- …..]
Without controversy the first war started and ended respectively under the leaderships of APC and SLPP, for a fair democratic principle, I used the phrase ‘under the leaderships’ rather than ‘SLPP ending the war’, which implies to both SLPP and APC, these renown leaderships had to acknowledge the corresponding effects of the declaration of war and the end, it is without controversy also that the respective polices of the two leaderships influenced the beginning and the end of the decade long war, nonetheless, SLPP did not end the war and this fact should not be miscomprehend for the benefit of us all as readers.
Finally, SLPP lead government is working hard to end a war that was declared by His Excellency our President; I believe that such a war will take concerted effort of all patriotic Sierra Leoneans and an independent Anti Corruption Commission to achieve a corrupt free nation, which is a primary key to release ‘no one to sleep on an empty stomach by 2007’. May God guide our leadership in executing their mandate?
Subject: IT IS YOUR CHANCE TO SEE WHY THIS IS THE MAN
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 02:34:18 10/27/06 ()
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FROM COCKRIOKO: http://www.cocorioko.net/
SIERRA DIASPORIA ABLAZE WITH PMDC-MANIA AS CHARLIE HIT THE TRAIL
The sierra Leone diasporia population is on fire, and the embers of that euphoric high flying flames can be seen from China to Seoul, from Australia to Holland, from the British isles to Rio in Brazil, from california to the Big Apple of New York, from the Great State of Georgia to Penns landing in Pennsylvania- all, and every where you go the talk is about the Positive man- Charlie and the Peoples Movement.The doors to the diasporia has been displaced ,and the heat is on as by every indication Charles Margai's diasporia momentum has already dwarfed Solomon Berewah's double tours.
But there is no where more spectacular with this expolsive dynamism than in the Delaware valley comprising the States of New Jersey, Delaware and Pennsylvania in the United States. In this tri-state epoch, the diasporia creme-de-la creme of youths-in- politics have set up a program only to be compared to the Independence inaugural celebrations of Sierra Leone in 1961.
The mammooth organization and program content for the Delaware valley tour is under the eagle eyes of the most spectacular team of all times spear headed by the PMDC- NEC Vice Chair Steven Gaoja,PMDC-NEC publicity Sec. Karmoh Mohamed Varfie Sheriff ,PMDC-NEC Deputy Scribe and teshincal consultant comrade Ibrahim Sheriff , PA/DEL Publicity Sec &Interim Finance Sec and Special Assistant to NEC Chair:(kotor) Mohamed Sesay ,PMDC-NEC Deputy National coordinator Morie Mustapha, Susan Bonah including Interim Chairs Boby Manns of PA/Del and
David Rogers of the Garden State of Jersey advising.
On his second day in the tri-state arena, Margai and team will grace a funding raising ball in one of philadelphia's most prestigious ball rooms where every patriotic and positive Sierra Leonean will rub shoulders with the next peoples President. Preceding the ball,the team will embark on a memorable tour of America's most historic sites in the philadelphia German Town , the Independence Mall,Penns Landing and the valley -Forge war memorial- one of the immortalized American civil war battle fields.
The following afternoon will land the delegation into a free-fall public Questions & Answer forum( in a town hall setting) in New Jersey under the watchful eyes of Messers Kemokai and Kathos Mathai where Sierra Leoneans will be opportuned to bring forward their doubts and hesistation about charles ,and require him to espouse his vision for the ravaged nation which he intends to lead out of the absymal darkness brought about by the mean, greedy and unpatriotic leadership of Berewah and Ahmed Tejan.In between these engagements will be private dinners in the Homes of the ebulient and resilient lady of the East coast Susan Bonah, and at the home of the Deputy national coordinator Morie Mustapha both in the Garden State. Such events will be crowned at the home of our versatile NEC publicity secretary Varfie Sheriff in Wilmington Delware.
The delegation is also slated to hold high level consultations with regional political heavy weights including the city leadership , business community and others, where the interim leader will avail them with the Movement's aspirations and goals.
So ladies and gentlemen,fasten your seat belts and prepare for landing- the PMDC jet is already airborne and there is no turning back. Next stop- Slater terrace at cotton tree in freetown where we intend to ressurect the abandoned State House,bring in sanity ,probity and accountability into government.
Here is the latest in the pipeline- Ears to the ground: Amidst Mr. President's highly totted 'no pay job', yet the pa's office expense alone is our heaviest financial burden since the Queen returned home. The presidential Affairs budget and actual expense dwarfs that of the Education and Agriculture ministries. You see why everyone (except Mr. Kabbah and his cabal) will go to bed hungry in kabbah's 2007 exit. Just for God's sake and irrespective of party affliations, check out how much the Pa. and ngor Solo have spent touring the globe with our hard earned forex. And just how much he has actually invested into his food cha cha for 2007. Do you know why, because, the Pa. attends every kitchen meeting that comes around( that besides his incessant Tripoli stop overs) and just find out how did Solo's recent double UN tour cost us all. Well, we'll all come know pretty soon how they jet in and out-in their first class cabins.
The audit report is up but its release has been hijacked by preso as ngor kanji Daramy is doctoring its final 'white wash'. Also under the microscope is the true reason why Solo and his boss have refused to sign into law the dual citizenship bill dangling in 'parliament'contrary to what Berewah told Sierra leoneans in his recent visits.
Stay tuned
Kehtamia
Hashim
Subject: IT IS YOUR CHANCE TO SEE WHY THIS IS THE MAN
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 00:34:39 10/27/06 ()
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SIERRA DIASPORIA ABLAZE WITH PMDC-MANIA AS CHARLIE HIT THE TRAIL
The sierra Leone diasporia population is on fire, and the embers of that euphoric high flying flames can be seen from China to Seoul, from Australia to Holland, from the British isles to Rio in Brazil, from california to the Big Apple of New York, from the Great State of Georgia to Penns landing in Pennsylvania- all, and every where you go the talk is about the Positive man- Charlie and the Peoples Movement.The doors to the diasporia has been displaced ,and the heat is on as by every indication Charles Margai's diasporia momentum has already dwarfed Solomon Berewah's double tours.
But there is no where more spectacular with this expolsive dynamism than in the Delaware valley comprising the States of New Jersey, Delaware and Pennsylvania in the United States. In this tri-state epoch, the diasporia creme-de-la creme of youths-in- politics have set up a program only to be compared to the Independence inaugural celebrations of Sierra Leone in 1961.
The mammooth organization and program content for the Delaware valley tour is under the eagle eyes of the most spectacular team of all times spear headed by the PMDC- NEC Vice Chair Steven Gaoja,PMDC-NEC publicity Sec. Karmoh Mohamed Varfie Sheriff ,PMDC-NEC Deputy Scribe and teshincal consultant comrade Ibrahim Sheriff , PA/DEL Publicity Sec &Interim Finance Sec and Special Assistant to NEC Chair:(kotor) Mohamed Sesay ,PMDC-NEC Deputy National coordinator Morie Mustapha, Susan Bonah including Interim Chairs Boby Manns of PA/Del and
David Rogers of the Garden State of Jersey advising.
On his second day in the tri-state arena, Margai and team will grace a funding raising ball in one of philadelphia's most prestigious ball rooms where every patriotic and positive Sierra Leonean will rub shoulders with the next peoples President. Preceding the ball,the team will embark on a memorable tour of America's most historic sites in the philadelphia German Town , the Independence Mall,Penns Landing and the valley -Forge war memorial- one of the immortalized American civil war battle fields.
The following afternoon will land the delegation into a free-fall public Questions & Answer forum( in a town hall setting) in New Jersey under the watchful eyes of Messers Kemokai and Kathos Mathai where Sierra Leoneans will be opportuned to bring forward their doubts and hesistation about charles ,and require him to espouse his vision for the ravaged nation which he intends to lead out of the absymal darkness brought about by the mean, greedy and unpatriotic leadership of Berewah and Ahmed Tejan.In between these engagements will be private dinners in the Homes of the ebulient and resilient lady of the East coast Susan Bonah, and at the home of the Deputy national coordinator Morie Mustapha both in the Garden State. Such events will be crowned at the home of our versatile NEC publicity secretary Varfie Sheriff in Wilmington Delware.
The delegation is also slated to hold high level consultations with regional political heavy weights including the city leadership , business community and others, where the interim leader will avail them with the Movement's aspirations and goals.
So ladies and gentlemen,fasten your seat belts and prepare for landing- the PMDC jet is already airborne and there is no turning back. Next stop- Slater terrace at cotton tree in freetown where we intend to ressurect the abandoned State House,bring in sanity ,probity and accountability into government.
Here is the latest in the pipeline- Ears to the ground: Amidst Mr. President's highly totted 'no pay job', yet the pa's office expense alone is our heaviest financial burden since the Queen returned home. The presidential Affairs budget and actual expense dwarfs that of the Education and Agriculture ministries. You see why everyone (except Mr. Kabbah and his cabal) will go to bed hungry in kabbah's 2007 exit. Just for God's sake and irrespective of party affliations, check out how much the Pa. and ngor Solo have spent touring the globe with our hard earned forex. And just how much he has actually invested into his food cha cha for 2007. Do you know why, because, the Pa. attends every kitchen meeting that comes around( that besides his incessant Tripoli stop overs) and just find out how did Solo's recent double UN tour cost us all. Well, we'll all come know pretty soon how they jet in and out-in their first class cabins.
The audit report is up but its release has been hijacked by preso as ngor kanji Daramy is doctoring its final 'white wash'. Also under the microscope is the true reason why Solo and his boss have refused to sign into law the dual citizenship bill dangling in 'parliament'contrary to what Berewah told Sierra leoneans in his recent visits.
Stay tuned
Kehtamia
Hashim
Subject: Re: ICOCORIOKO :T IS YOUR CHANCE TO SEE WHY THIS IS THE MAN
From: COCORIOKO
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Date Posted: 00:50:42 10/27/06 ()
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PLEASE LEARN TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOYR SOURCE. THANKS
Subject: Re: ICOCORIOKO :T IS YOUR CHANCE TO SEE WHY THIS IS THE MAN
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 02:31:27 10/27/06 ()
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The source was acknowledged by attaching the LINK, but this did not appear. This is not the first time this has happened. This can be confirmed by Cockrioko Moderator or give an explanation for this omission.
Subject: Moderator can you please delete the First posting
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 22:17:46 10/26/06 ()
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This is what I intended posting not the first one. I am completely sorry and I ask of the moderator to delete the first.
Thank you.
Subject: Re: Moderator can you please delete the First posting
From: Concerned( usai you dae woke?)
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Date Posted: 00:28:54 10/27/06 ()
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Too much crap.. you nor post anything...
Subject: Re: Moderator can you please delete the First posting
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 12:52:54 10/27/06 ()
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Greetings my brothers and sisters. Concerned( usai you dae woke?) on
October 27, 2006 at 00:28:54: wrote "Too much crap.. you nor post
anything..."
Concerned, my views about life, as exemplified are far different from
what you may ever conceptualize in life. You might be working as
Secretary of State for some hate-related, ill-fated, ill-contentious
jealous-mind-field and ignorantly contented miss administration but I
have never in my life tried to impose my superiority on you nor get
jealous of you in any-way-shape-or-form. I have never tried to con
you in any way or try to shamelessly make you disbelieve in what you
can achieve or purport lawlessness because I want to make you believe
in me though there are those watching that have elevated beyond such
mediocrity, have I? So there is a difference between you and I. It is due
to that difference I am respected in the sense that intellectuals and the
informed know it, over you. Our value systems are considerably
different.
As it is apparent, you value people for where they work regardless of
their characters or their mental abilities. This is so because you are
guarding your Mediocre accomplishments, if any, content with such a
position knowing that it was by chance you got there therefore, should
use other people's achievements to self-elevate for egocentric reasons
while you are always bitter at the hint of where another person is
capable of and ready to reach, failing to realize that not even the sky is
the limit as long as one has potentials. Because you did not genuinely
accomplish anything worth noting therefore, you assume that a man's
potentials must not be the yardstick to measure success or who is to
succeed. Had it been for people like you the world would have been in
the Stone Age mentality. Thank God we have moved beyond such ages.
(Smile)
The reasons for which you ambiguously posted such a trash, is self-
evident that your conceptual abilities are not developed and your
civility has not been beyond that of monkeying in a bush. The brain of
a monkey who does not know that people who went and have gone to
space used intellectual abilities, observing, striving by guidance from
others who believe that knowledge is power and must not be wasted,
which helped them take risks to uncover what mankind had and has
never uncovered, in an endeavor to make life better for the human race
regardless of their origin, their background or gender. You on the
other hand are presumptuously preoccupied with the "me" syndrome
because your brain cannot take any further than that. I petty you.
At any rate, indulge me to help open your eyes to what civilized people
perceive the world to be, taming you from the monkey game you are
accustomed to. The world has advanced since the Renaissance. It is a
petty that you were left in darkness, where you have gloated over
nothing significant while the real human race has touched the stars.
That is what I have posted and there is where I work. Where law is
abide by, where humans think beyond the ordinary self, where
knowledge and humanity, honesty and mental superiority are
acceptable. Where we think of a better tomorrow by the use of superior
knowledge that mankind has yet to uncover uncovered it's full
potentials and yearning to, but you think that deception of the most
obnoxious form is the height of human potentials.
I work with Presidents, Congress persons, Diplomats, Actors and
Actresses, Scientists, Philosophers, Political and all forms of Analysts
who believe that Law is supreme, that the truth is the way to go, that
humility and hospitality is what makes a difference rather than
dishonesty, haughtiness and arrogance. Where we think that the world
must elevate beyond the small world of people like you who think of
only themselves and the few around them as a global community.
It is the place to be. Have you worked there yet? No. otherwise you
wouldn't have even thought of posting such insolence. Reason being
that you thought of your small world, where deceit is hailed forgetting
the universe, where we wish to help you grow in knowledge.(Smile.)
You see the difference?
Your question indicates that you never took knowledge into
consideration because you do not value it. Did you respond to any of
the informative postings prior to this? No. because there is nothing
intellectual you can add to it and there is no way you can sabotage it.
The one you thought you have an input, you were incapacitated to view
anything outside sex riches and you did not even see the difference
between the people in it and you to realize that you have not reached
such a caliber and who are you to ask such a question considering the
people involved. You why, you are not a dreamer but one who is
contented with the little you have and put yourself in the place of all
important. Did you read some of the traits of a Socialized Psychopath?
Is this the best timing for such a question? Back to trashing you. Did
you ask me what education I have achieved in life and where do I wish
to be, no. Rather you wanted to be condescending: stemming from
ignorance.
Please if you do not understand some of the English wording I implore
you to ask a Professor if you do not know how to look-up words in a
dictionary. Your conceptualization or rationalization tells me you're
inept to understand a global view, in that you are restricted by hate,
jealousy, arrogance and ignorance. The only method you can
supplement for intelligence is manipulative arrogance. (Smile)
How about that for concerned Dummy! Clap for it.
Now you want o know where I work and what I posted? Open your eyes,
ask questions and try being informed so that you understand what the
world thinks. Well, that is if your brain can let you.
In my next posting, I would like for you to read carefully, ask questions
if you do not understand and realize that there is more than you in the
world. That right is might and only God and government give or take it.
That any other person beside the above named who attempts or trys
any dubious ways to take it or have it taken is a criminal act and that
there is nothing impressive about a criminal act. No I am serious about
it, fool! (Smile.)
Subject: Re: Moderator can you please delete the First posting
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 16:34:29 10/27/06 ()
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Now what other questions do you have?
See, it is people like you who do not know what the American ideals are, do not know anything serious besides such demented self-fooling professing to worth something with the brain of a low class animal. It is people of your type who would think that if people who matter respects someone, they have given you the mandate to disrespect them by violating the law. You do not care about the country's image to the International Community because you are shamelessly unimformed but would rather put yourself above everyone else, including the superiors just because you think the country owes you something though they have provided you with an exemplary freedom: to be what you can be but you cannot take advantage of such opportunities in that you do not have the potentials. Just because you believe that by disrespecting someone else, depriving them of the opportunitie they deserve has made you a better person regardless of who is watching does not make you anything in the eyes of civilized people like who has travelled beyond your little world, order than a fool.
For the fact that you do not have self-respect, you cannot respect the law nor those who made the law. Because who in their right mind would see what the law says and act contrary? These are the reasons why there are bloodshed in areas, where people of your mindset exist in their abundance. What prompted you to ask such idiotic question if you are not jealous and greedy?
You have learned very well that I am the wrong one to get involved in the ignorant games people like you play but you had to try me any way, thinking that you can bring the public into your foolishness as you use to do in areas, where people think in your mindset. Have you seen the difference between the civilized who know humanity and those you use to incite? They did not anything but games like you play. You know what I have been missing through your childish games? Do you care about my welfare? Are you human enough to think about the wrongs you have done to me inorder to excite your egocentric selves? You can't. That is the difference between a human and an animal. Humans have conscience while animals do not. The former remorse for wrongs they do, the latter agilate for the wrongs they do. Why, the latter a phycho.
I am waiting for your response if you are so equiped to have an intelligent discussion with a man of my calibre. Are you not even ashamed after everything wrong you have thought and done, then comming-up with such erratic questions when those who can buy you are posted, the ones you thought were disrespecting me for you. Who or what are you considering everyone involved. What are you!
You see why I ingor idiots like you regardless of what they say or do. Because I see their brain cells ill-developed to conceptualize reasoning.
Shoot!
Subject: Educational.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 22:15:21 10/26/06 ()
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Please do not open it is only for adults and it is very important to learn from this. Use it as an educational tool rather than sexual urge. The world's movement to changing our minds towards acceptability.
It is is your interest. But view the following links side by side: Draw no conclussions before a thorough conceptualization.
Note, there is always two sides to a coin.
http://www.forbes.com/2006/06/12/06celebrities_money-power-celebrities-list_land.html
Subject: Good Work, baby Girl
From: Solomon Berewa
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Date Posted: 15:16:21 10/26/06 ()
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Sierra Leone: Berewa's Daughter Shows Concern for the Poor
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The Independent (Freetown)
October 26, 2006
Posted to the web October 26, 2006
Alpha R. Jalloh
Mrs. Ann Lansana, the daughter of Vice President Solomon Berewa, in a recent visit to the executive of the Passenger Welfare Association at Allentown, east of the capital Freetown, assured them of her support to achieve their objective.
She gave them promises that raised their hopes.
She expressed admiration on the organization's diversification in objectives. The organisation had built a medical centre and trained staff to serve the community.
The executive director of PAWEL Mr. Milton Boyo told Mrs. Ann Lansana that their organisation's progress was impeded by lack of resources, infrastructure and logistics in general.
He said, "The aim of the organisation is not only to promote the welfare of passengers but to rescue the community residents from medical deprivation".
The chairman of the occasion, who is also chairman of the Sierra Leone People's Party East 111 zone, assured those trained by the organisation that the government recognised its existence. He told the trained paramedics that there were also qualified doctors ready to serve, adding that they had sought the services of traditional healers
Subject: Re: Good Work, baby Girl
From: BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
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Date Posted: 19:55:00 10/26/06 ()
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She gave them promises that raised their hopes.
Subject: SOLO B OH YEAH
From: SOLOMON BEREWA
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Date Posted: 15:15:14 10/26/06 ()
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Sierra Leone: The Youths Will Arise' - Vice President Berewa
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Concord Times (Freetown)
COLUMN
October 26, 2006
Posted to the web October 26, 2006
Ansumana Momoh
Any worthwhile student of American history will allude to the central philosophy of the founding fathers as that of a 'Manifest Destiny'.
Looking at a re-energized Solo B recently in London, one can be forgiven to declare that it seems as if he believes that it is his manifest destiny to rule Sierra Leone. For one, this was not a career Politician, but rather a man who was literally dragged into the politics of Sierra Leone by circumstances and the realization that every man has got to do his bit for his country. Every challenge in his life has been overcome through a fundamental belief that it is God's will. Becoming Leader of the SLPP was what God wanted as shown by the landslide in which he demolished his opponents, and as he himself said, it was an emphatic victory ordained by God, who as we all know does not do anything in small measures.
So it was at the Bonnington Hotel in central London when this charismatic and unassuming gentleman walked into a jam-packed hall to the tune of Ngor Gbetuwa's 'Solomon Berewa Vision', which reverberated around the wall as everyone quickly picked it up. The response was contagious and the entire audience joined in. Looking at it from a distance, one could have been forgiven to think that this man was already the President of Sierra Leone. But as if he was listening to our inner thoughts, he was soon to use the podium to encourage his supporters and advised them against complacency in whatever shape or form.
What was meant to be a meeting of friends turned out to be a declaration of purpose as Berewa again showed why he wants to be trusted with the mantle of leadership. His speech was very direct and at best described as purposeful. He talked about the institutions of government and the purpose of leadership. Speaking on the need for a good leader, he used his own situation and experience to demonstrate that the cardinal purpose of a political party was to contest and win elections with the sole aim of transforming the lives of people.
Sitting in the crowd as an onlooker, one could see that there was an element of transparency about this man. In attendance were the Chairman of His party, the Finance Minister, Education Minister, Diplomats and a host of others. It seemed as if this man was sending a coded message to all and sundry that his government will be a no nonsense administration and one in which there will be no sacred cows.
The confidence radiated by the Vice President underlined his belief that the task of salvaging Sierra Leone, started by the regime of President Kabbah, can only be completed by this loyal servant who in his own words '??. has served his apprenticeship?' faithfully and with honour. Few can deny this fact for Berewa never openly canvassed for positions as in the case with many a decadent politician. It was his actions that propelled him to the limelight, attracting the gaze of President Kabbah who recognized that he was nobody's fool.
History has a way of rewarding patriotism. Like the ancient Romans, ancient Rome almost went into anarchy when Julius Cesar was unceremoniously removed from power and the triumvirates ruled the country. In the case of Sierra Leone, there does not appear to be such a problem as President Kabbah has prepared the platform in the knowledge that Berewa can only continue with the hard and difficult decisions necessary for Sierra Leone's progress.
On the subject of youth empowerment, his brazen and candid approach left many wondering as to whether it was a renaissance or simply a new beginning. This was because in the past youths have merely been used by unscrupulous politicians to achieve power only to be abandoned when they get there. For Berewa, he stated categorically that youth empowerment was a central theme in his agenda and he will fight hard to ensure that the young generation has a strong voice in his administration. His voice betrayed a slight feeling of regret, as if to say he could have done more. But when one compares this to what previous politicians have done, then it is safe to say that the youths will be better off under a Berewa Presidency. He spoke glowingly of the hard work performed by the young people in the government of President Kabbah and was at pains to stress that this has never happened in the past. Vice President Berewa spoke as if to say something new has to be brought back in the politics of Sierra Leone; respect. He always referred to his boss as President Kabbah. And simply put, that is to signify that there was no place for complacency and disrespect in his administration.
On the issue of electricity and public transportation, he was optimistic that by the end of 2007, blackouts and cases of lack of transport will be history. He assured the guests that the Bunbuna Hydro-electric project was on track and was candid enough to say that it was even cheaper to buy new machine now than to repair the old ones. Throughout his speech, it was evident that he was speaking to an audience, which extended far beyond the four corners of the Bonnington Hotel; he was in actual fact speaking to Sierra Leoneans at home and abroad. It was very Clintonian in that he appeared to be directing his appeal to people of other political persuasions.
If one could remember well, Bill Clinton came to power by appealing to some elements of the Republican Party, as did Tony Blair who won votes from lifelong Conservatives. Their appeal was based on the fact that it was better for the country to elect someone who could be trusted even though that person did not represent their political parties and values.
And Berewa has always appealed in like manner saying one does not have to leave his or her party to vote for him. In this he is right and he is showing a maturity that is so uncommon in African politics. From what one could see, it seems as if he is successful in this regard as many supporters of other parties are vowing to vote for their parties in the Parliamentary elections, but vote for Berewa in the Presidential elections.
Moving from the subject area, he went on to dwell on the twin evils of poverty and youth unemployment. This is an area dear to his heart as he has always taken pains to explain to whoever cared to listen that he was driven into politics by a profound sense of public duty and concern for the economic liberation of his fellow men. He reiterated his determination to continue with the unending battle against poverty and unemployment, which he remarked, was a cancer deep into the stability and progress of our country.
Displaying his trademark humility, he pledged to embark on wide consultations with stakeholders to contribute to the formulation of viable policies and the facilitation of an effective implementation Programme. His goal will be to put in place effective strategies, which will not only ensure prompt delivery but also to give a feeling of belonging to everyone. This, he said, was absolutely vital because Sierra Leone belonged to every Sierra Leonean.
In a speech studded with words of assurance, VP Berewa summed up in an optimistic tone describing the SLPP as a progressive and inclusive political force that remains the most credible instrument for Sierra Leone's development. He stressed that the party has the opportunity and the destiny to dominate the democratic, social and economic development of the country for a generation, and more importantly use that opportunity to bring democratic governance and sustainable development to every citizen in the country. This was not only an appeal for votes, but a call to the multitude to believe in the programmes and policies of the SLPP party which has been consistent throughout the years in believing that a country's greatest asset is her people.
Subject: Re: SOLO B OH YEAH
From: Sa
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Date Posted: 15:54:21 10/26/06 ()
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Sitting in the crowd as an onlooker, one could see that there was an element of transparency about this man.
The above self coded word from the writer,shows his teeming character towards people he likes.
The writer uses short sighted views to coat Berewa as an all encompassing leader.
He unashamedly stated below;
The confidence radiated by the Vice President underlined his belief that the task of salvaging Sierra Leone, started by the regime of President Kabbah, can only be completed by this loyal servant who in his own words '??. has served his apprenticeship?' faithfully and with honour.
The above statement by the author is another screwed up mentality hatched by the writer,to lighten Berewa's shadow.He has not showed any leadership quality in his tour.The face saving PR exercise cannot re-invent Berewa's lost public image.
Berewa has overseen hundreds of millions of dollars programmes.
Barely seven months to elections, he is talking about youth employment and new projects to develop Sierrra Leone.
Why now Mr Solomon Berewa and supporters?
Subject: WORDS OF WISDOM FROM AFRICA
From: Joker Koker
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Date Posted: 11:28:34 10/26/06 ()
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"When the mouth stumbles it is worse than the foot."
African Proverb
Subject: -AWOKO NEWSPAPER:SLPP Campaign causes row in Ramadan prayers
From: Moijue
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Date Posted: 10:35:48 10/26/06 ()
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DESPERATION BAD OH
SLPP Campaign causes row in Ramadan prayers
More than 1,000 Muslims in the southern headquarter town of Bo during the Eid-ul-Adha prayers have protested against their Imam for campaigning on behalf of the ruling Sierra Leone People’s Party (SLPP) during prayers. According to newspaper reports, the Imam, Alhaji Mohamed Turay, “shocked worshippers when he said Muslims should vote for the SLPP because it was they who ended the civil war”. The Awoko newspaper writes: -“He followed through by saying all Muslims who were not members of the SLPP are “Kufars”, non-believers in Islam and that Allah will not send them to heaven when they die. The mammoth crowd of worshipers stood up and folded their mats demanding that the Imam be changed or no prayers. The ranting and row went on until the intervention of the Local Unit Commander of Police, FUK Dabo who incidentally was on the praying field. The Imam was later replaced by another before the prayer could continue.”
Subject: Re: -AWOKO NEWSPAPER:SLPP Campaign causes row in Ramadan prayers
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:10:34 10/26/06 ()
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Dear Moijue:
The news reports about the pray-day incident in BO you relied upon for your posting is not accurate.
This is what happened according to my relatives in Bo, 90% of whom are Muslims:
Imam Turay had just begun his opening remarks. The crowd was not yet mammoth at that point. Three lines of worshippers were still outside and trying to get into the field. Approximately 300 people had arrived at the time and ready to pray wnen Imam Turay commenced his opening remarks only. His were mere opening remarks, not prayers at that point.
He never asked the gathering worship crowd to vote for the SLPP. Instead, he asked them to pray for SLPP for bringing the peace we are all currently enjoying in the land.
His uttering word "SLPP" upset some alleged APC members in the audience who made known their party affiliation. They raised loud and louder objections. Less than fifty people stood up. Even so, fear of bose-bose descended upon some in the crowd. Imam Turay's request to pray for the peace SLPP brought us shocked no one, except possibly, the alleged APC adherents.
The police DPO-BO, a Muslim, was in the front row at the prayer field as a worshipper. He turned around and asked the objectors to calm down and allow the prayers to continue peacefully. No one wants war, anymore he said. The matter ended there.
During the next 10 to 15 minutes more and more worshippers were able to enter the praying field to fill it to capacity. That's when the crowd may have reached 1,000 worshippers and not at the time of the seeming bose-bose threat.
After the DPO's intervention, Imam Turay continued with his remarks to conclusion and it was he who recited the Rahmadan prayers without any further incident. He was never replaced by any other Imam as falsely reported.
I have experenced gongorlee journalism and I can say that gongorlee journalism is a proven tactic to sell substandard newspapers in our troubled land. Thanks. -JL
Subject: Re: -AWOKO NEWSPAPER:SLPP Campaign causes row in Ramadan prayers
From: Moijue
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Date Posted: 08:20:29 10/27/06 ()
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Ambassador was it worth bringing SLPP into the pray ground.
From your posting the reprt by AWOKO TENDS TO BE TRUE.You have just confirm that from your posting.Thanks for confirming the story.
As someone who has attended this prayers before, The Imam would have come in nearly last so your figure is wrong.
For the Police to intervene proves that the situation was going out of control.
SLPP DID NOT BRING PEACE,JEL.Instead they undermined it.
Subject: Re: -AWOKO NEWSPAPER:SLPP Campaign causes row in Ramadan prayers
From: Kenema
To: All
Date Posted: 07:59:37 10/27/06 ()
Email Address: ediecon@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 82.114.74.96
Message:
Having read through postings of the recent disruption at the praying field during the Eid-ul-Adha in Bo town, objectively one can conclude that:-
i) The name of SLPP was indeed mentioned, it could have been for prayers or whatever...
ii) People were indeed upset about the mentioning of SLPP during the Eid-ul-Adha prayers…..
iii) Discontentment of the [bulk?] of worshipers at the pray field was indeed obvious, as it turned out...
iv) The situation was indeed out of control, which none of the religious leaders was able to contain…
v) The police was then obliged to intervene, indeed putting the situation under control.
vi) Finally, may I conclude that your works shall follow you?
Subject: Re: -AWOKO NEWSPAPER:SLPP Campaign causes row in Ramadan prayers
From: CADMUS
To: All
Date Posted: 11:16:12 10/27/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 82.198.250.67
Message:
CORRECTION:
This was an EID-UL- FITRI Prayers not EID-UL-ADHA
FACTS:
(1) My friend's version of events closely confirms that of John Leigh's version.
(2) It has always been a convention in Sierra Leone for religious leaders to recommend that the congregation prays for the Country's President, hence it follows that the party that the President at this time happens to lead is called the SLPP.
(3) Out of thousands present at the praying field,there were no more than 30 objectors to this request for prayers.
(4) It is the police's duty to maintain peace where ever that may be. There is no big deal about the police dealing with a handful potential trouble makers.
Thanks to the SLPP government for bringing to Sierra Leone Democracy and Freedom of speech, people are now able to express such desent at such a prayer meeting.
I can remenber as a young person growing up, such prayer requests were always made on behalf on Siaka Stevens and the APC..Did anyone ever object?, not a single voice of desent.
THIS IS YET ONE more GOOD REASON WHY YOU MUST AGAIN AGAIN RETURN SLPP to power come 2007, so that we can continue to maintain Democracy and preserve your Freedon of Speech. You cannot risk such hard earned freedom.
Subject: Re: -AWOKO NEWSPAPER:SLPP Campaign causes row in Ramadan prayers
From: Moijue
To: All
Date Posted: 12:26:35 10/27/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
JEL:Approximately 300 people had arrived at the time and ready to pray wnen Imam Turay commenced his opening remarks only. His were mere opening remarks, not prayers at that point.
CADMUS:3) Out of thousands present at the praying field,there were no more than 30 objectors to this request for prayers.
Of this two SLPP bigwigs who is telling us the truth about the figures present now?
Subject: Re: -AWOKO NEWSPAPER:SLPP Campaign causes row in Ramadan prayers
From: Bo town Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 19:00:20 10/26/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
John,
My relatives who are 100% muslim as compared to your
90% tell me the story is true.
They were infact at the "sekeniema".
Subject: Re: -AWOKO NEWSPAPER:SLPP Campaign causes row in Ramadan prayers
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:30:50 10/27/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-rtc-ae04.proxy.aol.com at 152.163.101.8
Message:
Dear Mr. Bo town Boy:
I did not say my relatives are 90% muslim. I said 90% of my relatives are Muslim. And several of them were eyewitnesses at the prayer field. Thanks. - JL
Subject: Re: -AWOKO NEWSPAPER:SLPP Campaign causes row in Ramadan prayers
From: ok dok
To: All
Date Posted: 21:46:27 10/26/06 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
Entered From: px2nr.wp.shawcable.net at 24.66.94.141
Message:
Those fanatic muslims who go along with osama benladen?
Subject: Re: -AWOKO NEWSPAPER:SLPP Campaign causes row in Ramadan prayers
From: ok dok
To: All
Date Posted: 12:03:48 10/26/06 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
Entered From: px2nr.wp.shawcable.net at 24.66.94.141
Message:
I will not belive you since you are adding more bush news to the fact.
Subject: WE WILL NOT ALLOW CHARLES MARGAI'S NAME TO BE MALIGNED HERE
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 09:11:48 10/26/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 71.250.218.196
Message:
COCORIOKO ,being a democratic newspaper that believes that everybody and every political party should be given a fair chance, would not allow Mr. Charles Margai of the PMDC to be unnecessarily maligned here via unproved and unsubstantiated allegations that are a product of malice and mere gossip.
The MODERATOR is authorized to delete any article that deals with the salacious allegations that have been peddled in some other forums about the young man.
We are more interested in knowing Mr. Margai's agenda for Sierra Leone .Unsubstantiated allegations on his moral life,bent on diverting people from the main issues ,are unwelcome because they are not good for our nation.
We hope all participants on this forum will desist from unnecessary character assassination and stick to the issues.
Subject: Re: WE WILL NOT ALLOW CHARLES MARGAI'S NAME TO BE MALIGNED HERE
From: ok dok
To: All
Date Posted: 12:08:29 10/26/06 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
Entered From: px2nr.wp.shawcable.net at 24.66.94.141
Message:
You have been doing good lately but about this , you are not still clean
Subject: Re: WE WILL NOT ALLOW CHARLES MARGAI'S NAME TO BE MALIGNED HERE
From: CADMUS
To: All
Date Posted: 10:52:11 10/26/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-130-100-76.in-addr.btopenworld.com at 81.130.100.76
Message:
REV KABS,
This sounds so good.I agree with you one this one my good REV,but the Good Lord said you have to be Equitable about life, that means you will have to apply this very good principle to other political leaders including Kabbah, Berewa, Koroma(APC)John Leigh ect.
Berewa has had a raw deal on this forum lately,it is good to know that there will be some balance soon.
Thank you for the good work..May the Good Lord guide you equitably.
Subject: Re: WE WILL NOT ALLOW CHARLES MARGAI'S NAME TO BE MALIGNED HERE
From: APC Man
To: All
Date Posted: 10:14:52 10/26/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-68-127-104-19.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net at 68.127.104.19
Message:
Kabs, sound good.....Who gets to define what constitutes maligning during this political seson???
How come you have never deleted mails maligning Berewa or Ernest? Berewa has been attacked here by folks like Moinina, and the PMDC dance troupe without you saying anything. They have accused him of stealing state funds without any proof.
Ernest is being attacked as a wife-thief, and I haven't heard you say anything.
If you are going to delete mails maligning (oops - allegedly maligning) Charles, then delete those maligning Ernest and Solo B - what ever maligning means
Subject: Re: WE WILL NOT ALLOW CHARLES MARGAI'S NAME TO BE MALIGNED HERE
From: Albert Moinina
To: All
Date Posted: 22:47:22 10/26/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 218.248.0.178
Message:
My attack on your leader has always and will always be on his ability and records as a capable or incapable person to lead the country. THIS IS THE MAIN ISSUE that needs to be addressed which Kabs Kanu is trying to address to us all.
Subject: Re: WE WILL NOT ALLOW CHARLES MARGAI'S NAME TO BE MALIGNED HERE
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 14:07:45 10/26/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
And Kabs while you are on the ball here, may I issue this disclaimer once again, that I have NEVER made any statements maligning Margai on this forum because if I ever did they would be untrue and unsubstantiated. As far as I am concerned Charles is an able and capable colleague with whom I served before the special court for sierra leone and I have respect for him as a colleague. To have associated my name with such a NEFARIOUS allegation is clearly the tactics of only one party most versed in negative propaganda and that is the SLPP.
Furthermore, It is also important that you and your forum police do more to police this forum because it is fast becomming a gutter environment where frivolous allefgations can be made against individuals without any recourse. My reputation has suffered an attempted dragging in the dirt by one Saidu Bagura, and the fellow who calls himself Sengbe.
You must also not be partial because any defamatory statement made by anyone against another on this forum is actionable against the forum if and when a request for removal of the statement is not timely honored by your forum.
Stay Blessed and let the campaign begin
Subject: Re: WE WILL NOT ALLOW CHARLES MARGAI'S NAME TO BE MALIGNED HERE
From: Alie Formeh Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 15:07:32 10/26/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.22.236.230
Message:
I agree with Allieu Iscandri that you have to do more to police the forum.
Please read what someone posting as 'Idiot' wrote about me:
"You are a disgrace just like the old APC thief minister Formeh Kamara, the thug."
"bastards like you who have nothing else to speak about are bery prone to bringing other peoples parents to derision on this forum. Its time someone puts their BIG SIZE THIRTEENS UP YOUR MOTHER FUCKING ASS. "
Shouldn’t someone like this be warned or expelled. I don’t even know what he is talking about and I don’t know what to say to him/her.
Subject: Re: WE WILL NOT ALLOW CHARLES MARGAI'S NAME TO BE MALIGNED HERE
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 15:24:53 10/26/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-rtc-ae04.proxy.aol.com at 152.163.101.8
Message:
Dear Rev. Kabs Kanu:
I join Mr. Formeh Kamara and others in asking that you please clean up this forum to prevent nasty gutter language and the abusive use of monikers. Please limit each contributor to one single ID in this forum and expel users of uncouth nasty gutter language of the type set forth by Mr. Kamara. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: WE WILL NOT ALLOW CHARLES MARGAI'S NAME TO BE MALIGNED HERE
From: LEARN
To: All
Date Posted: 15:09:01 10/26/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ac202-054.resnet.stonybrook.edu at 130.245.202.54
Message:
Allie,
You will be surprised to know that your Alieu Isbandri is the one posting as IDIOt. The guy has no shame.
Subject: Re: WE WILL NOT ALLOW CHARLES MARGAI'S NAME TO BE MALIGNED HERE
From: IDIOT
To: All
Date Posted: 17:00:10 10/26/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
MAYBE ITS NOT ALIOU ISCANDARI. HAVE YOU TGHOUGHT ABOUT THAT. SO WHAT IF YOU FIOND OYU THAT IT IS NOT HIM WILL YOU PUBNLICALLY APOLOGISE TPO HIM?
Subject: EDMUND KOKER vs ALIEU ISCANDARI. who's who?
From: SULTAN KARGBO
To: All
Date Posted: 07:55:08 10/26/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 65.91.143.20
Message:
Edmund Koker has a PhD. Alieu hasn't.
Alieu is unemployed. Koker is.
Koker is a scientist. Alieu says he's a lawyer.
Koker teaches at a universty. Alieu babysits all the time.
Alieu eats snuff. Koker does not.
Alieu stones. Koker does not.
Alieu doesn't care about family. Koker does care.
One smokes jamba, the other doesn't.
One is christian. The other is muslim.
The one is APC. The other is SLPP.
The one cheats on his spouse. The other doesn't.
The one is a 'raray boy'. The other is a gentleman, par excellence.
The one sniffs. The other doesn't.
One spits around. The other doesn't.
THESE FINDINGS ARE BASED ON INDEPENDENT RESEARCH.
Subject: PRIZE OFFERED TO AFRICA'S LEADERS
From: BBC
To: All
Date Posted: 02:27:14 10/26/06 ()
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Prize offered to Africa's leaders
Mo Ibrahim wants to combat corruption in Africa
A $5m prize for Africa's most effective head of state is to be launched by one of the continent's leading businessmen, in an effort to combat poor leadership.
Mobile phone entrepreneur Mo Ibrahim is behind the plan, in which 53 nations will be rated for governance quality.
Each year the winning leader will, at the end of his term, get $5m (£2.7m) over 10 years and $200,000 (£107,000) each year for life thereafter.
"We need to remove corruption and improve governance," Mr Ibrahim said.
Then the continent would not need any aid, he said - and "the day we do not need any aid will be the most wonderful day in my life."
The Mo Ibrahim Prize for Achievement in African Leadership will be launched in London on Thursday.
The people who are doing badly and are killing their own people or stealing state resources are going to carry on doing that
Patrick Smith
Africa Confidential
BBC Africa editor Martin Plaut said it would be the world's richest prize - exceeding the $1.3m (£700,000) awarded by the Nobel Peace Prize.
It will be available only to a president who democratically transfers power to his successor.
Harvard University will do the measuring to see just how well the president has served his or her people during their term in office.
Nelson Mandela, former US President Bill Clinton and UN Secretary General Kofi Annan are among those who have welcomed the initiative.
Mr Mandela describing it as an example to the world. Mr Clinton said he wished Mr Ibrahim and his foundation "much success in its important work".
Differing opinion
And Mr Annan thanked the businessman for "establishing such a generous prize as an incentive".
But not everyone agrees.
Patrick Smith, of specialist publication Africa Confidential, said: "The people who know what to do and have done well are already doing it.
"And the people who are doing badly and are killing their own people or stealing state resources are going to carry on doing that."
Africa has one of the world's richest concentrations of minerals precious metals, yet 300 million of its residents live on less than a dollar a day.
Subject: Re: PRIZE OFFERED TO AFRICA'S LEADERS
From: Steven Rogers
To: All
Date Posted: 09:14:15 10/28/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-457377de.dyn.optonline.net at 69.115.119.222
Message:
Great initiative. Unfortunately not good enough for a corrupt African Leader who could make all that money in one shady deal. Why does he need a $5million lifetime achievement, when he can earn that in one month and not run the risk of becoming unpopular by his corrupt party stalwarts. I think the real initiave should be jail-terms for corrupt leaders who steal money, refuse to relinquish power in a democratic transition and forment trump-up treason charges against opponents. I believe most people are motivated to do good not merely because of the rewards, but because of the consequencies of doing otherwise.
Subject: "EVIL" OR "NON-EVIL" MARGAI FIGHTING FOR JUSTICE
From: Albert Moinina
To: All
Date Posted: 00:27:02 10/26/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 218.248.0.178
Message:
FROM A RELIABLE SOURCE:
"Omerie Golley¡¦s trial -Margai calls for replacement of trial Judge
Defence Lawyer at the ongoing treason trial involving Omerie Golley and David Kai, Charles Francis Margai, is reported to have last Thursday, 19th October, called for a replacement of the current trial Judge, Justice Ademusu, with an expatriate judge. According to Margai, there is the likelihood that the Sierra Leonean Judge would be bias in his judgment against the first accused person. He said, however, that the Chief Justice was yet to respond to his written request for the said replacement."
Subject: PRINCE CHARLES DUE IN FREETOWN
From: QUEEN ELIZABETH
To: All
Date Posted: 21:31:55 10/25/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Prince Charles gears up for West African tour
October 26 2006 at 01:23AM
London - Britain's Prince Charles is to visit Sierra Leone and Nigeria on a four-day trip next month, his office announced on Thursday.
The 57-year-old heir to the throne will be in West Africa to promote regional stability and national reconciliation as well as two of his pet subjects, sustainable development and education, Clarence House said.
"The main aims of the visit are to celebrate the success of Nigeria's longest unbroken period of democratic rule since independence and to highlight Sierra Leone's emergence from a period of civil war," a statement read.
Charles visited Nigeria in 1990 with his then-wife Princess Diana, but has never visited Sierra Leone.
He will not be accompanied by his second wife, Camilla, on the trip between November 27-30.
The Sierra Leone leg, from November 27-28, will focus mainly on the capital, Freetown, but in Nigeria he will travel to several cities and rural communities in the mainly Muslim north of the country. - Sapa-AFP
Subject: World Bank Grant Bolsters Justice Reform in Africa, Pioneeri
From: Timap for Justice
To: All
Date Posted: 21:30:36 10/25/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
World Bank Grant Bolsters Justice Reform in Africa, Pioneering NGO Delivers Aid to Poor
10/24/06 - Timap for Justice
Freetown, Sierra Leone and Washington, DC, October 24, 2006—The groundbreaking non-governmental organization Timap for Justice received a three-year, $879,000 grant today from the World Bank to provide justice services in Sierra Leone, one of the world’s poorest countries.
Timap for Justice, co-founded in 2004 by the Open Society Justice Initiative and the Sierra Leonean National Forum for Human Rights, trains and deploys paralegals in the country’s rural areas. In a nation with five million people and only 100 lawyers, the need for their services is acute.
Timap’s paralegals address justice problems that arise between people and the authorities, such as corruption in government services, as well as disputes between individuals, including instances of domestic violence and neglect of child support. The paralegals use mediation, education, advocacy and community organizing to resolve such problems. Their efforts are complicated by Sierra Leone’s dualist legal structure, which features both a formal legal system of courts and lawyers based on the English model, and a customary system based on traditional approaches to justice. Timap’s paralegals apply their knowledge of formal law and their familiarity with local customs to navigate between the two legal systems.
A new publication from the Justice Initiative, Between Law and Society: Paralegals and the Provision of Primary Justice Services in Sierra Leone, focuses on Timap, highlighting cases which include a man cheated by a corrupt local chief and a woman accused of being a witch. The publication is available at www.justiceinitiative.org.
The grant announced today comes from the Japan Social Development Fund, operated by the World Bank, which supports innovative social programs that help alleviate poverty. The grant will enable Timap to continue its work for the next three years, and expand its geographical reach from five chiefdoms to ten.
“This grant will make an enormous difference to Timap, and to the people of Sierra Leone,” said Vivek Maru, founding co-director of Timap for Justice. “It will allow us to extend our reach and solve more justice problems in places where these services are desperately needed.”
The Open Society Justice Initiative, an operational program of the Open Society Institute (OSI), pursues law reform activities grounded in the protection of human rights, and contributes to the development of legal capacity for open societies worldwide. The Justice Initiative combines litigation, legal advocacy, technical assistance, and the dissemination of knowledge to secure advances in the following priority areas: national criminal justice, international justice, freedom of information and expression, and equality and citizenship. Its offices are in Abuja, Budapest, and New York.
Subject: An America Value/Ideals?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:51:46 10/25/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: n368d.lib.ucdavis.edu at 169.237.76.120
Message:
COMMON QUESTIONS
Uniquely American Questions
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This section discusses American culture & customs.
AMERICAN VALUES
Individual Freedom | Choice in Education | The Family | Privacy | American Values - Online Resources
If you asked most Americans what the cultural values in the U.S. are, you might get some blank stares, or a statement of some basic beliefs. The question may seem simple, but the answer is quite complex. In a society as highly diverse as the United States, there is likely to be a multitude of answers.
American culture has been enriched by the values and belief systems of virtually every part of the world. Consequently, it is impossible to be comprehensive. Nevertheless, a few selected values are at the core of the American value system.
Individual Freedom
The one value that nearly every American would agree upon is individual freedom. Whether you call it individual freedom, individualism, or independence, it is the cornerstone of American values. It permeates every aspect of our society.
The concept of an individual’s having control over his/her own destiny influenced the type of government that was established here, and individual rights are guaranteed in the United States Constitution (the supreme law of the land).
These rights are so protected in our judicial system that, even though Americans may complain that criminals sometimes “get away with murder,” most people believe it is better to free a few guilty persons than to imprison one person who is innocent.
While our economic system may be dominated by large corporations, the majority of American businesses are small, and many are owned by an individual or a family. It is part of the “American dream” to “be your own boss,” and being an entrepreneur is one of the most appealing ways to improve one’s economic future.
Choice in Education
Education is often regarded as the key to opportunity, including financial security. Americans take a pragmatic approach to learning, so what one learns outside the classroom through internships, extracurricular activities and the like is often considered as important as what is learned in the classroom. Consequently, lifelong learning is valued which results in many adult and continuing education programs.
Americans have many choices. In school they decide their major field of study, perhaps with or without their parents’ influence, and students even get to select some of their courses. These “elective” courses often confuse foreign students who may expect a more rigid curriculum.
The belief that Americans should “be all that you can be” emanates from our Protestant heritage. Since the majority of the early settlers were Protestant, they believed that they had a responsibility to improve themselves, to be the best they could be, to develop their talents, and to help their neighbors. These convictions have not only influenced our educational system, but are often reflected in U.S. foreign policy. What some might consider meddling in other people’s affairs, others believe is fulfilling a moral obligation.
The Family
Another aspect of American society that may bewilder non-Americans is the family. The nuclear family structure (parents and children) is so alien to most cultures in the world that it is often misunderstood. The main purpose of the American family is to bring about the happiness of each individual family member. The traditional family values include love and respect for parents, as well as for all members of the family.
However, the emphasis on the individual and his/her right to happiness can be confusing. It allows children to disagree, even argue with their parents. While in most other cultures such action would be a sign of disrespect and a lack of love, that is not the case in the United States. It is simply a part of developing one’s independence.
Many foreign students and visitors are welcomed by host families, who invite them into their homes for dinner or to join in family activities. Frequently visitors are told to “make themselves at home” and, at times, may appear to be “left alone.”
It certainly is nice to be treated as an honored guest in someone’s home, but one of the highest compliments that an American can give foreign guests is to treat them like members of the family, which means to give them the “freedom of the house” to do what they want, to “raid the refrigerator” on their own, or to have some quiet time alone.
Privacy
Privacy is also important to Americans. The notion of individual privacy may make it difficult to make friends. Because Americans respect one’s privacy, they may not go much beyond a friendly “hello.” Ironically, it is usually the foreigner who must be more assertive if a friendship is to develop.
The rugged individualism valued by most Americans stems from our frontier heritage. For much of our country’s history, there was a frontier. That experience greatly influenced American attitudes. Early settlers had to be self-sufficient which forced them to be inventive. Their success gave them an optimism about the future, a belief that problems could be solved. This positive spirit enables Americans to take risks in areas where others might only dream, resulting in tremendous advances in technology, health and science.
The American frontier also created our heroes: the self-reliant, strong-willed, confident individual who preferred action to words and always tried to treat others fairly. Many of these characteristics are represented by the myth of the American cowboy, and the more modern versions personified in movies by John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, and Sylvester Stallone. We can even look to “future” centuries and admire similar qualities in the heroes of the Star Trek and Star Wars movie series.
In addition to such basic American values as individual freedom, self-reliance, equality of opportunity, hard work, material wealth, and competition, we see a trend toward conservation with an emphasis on recycling and preserving the environment. Also there is a greater sensitivity to cooperation on a more global scale.
No matter what changes the next century brings or whether you agree with American values, the opportunity to visit the United States and to observe Americans first-hand is an experience well worth the effort.
Be careful not to be ethnocentric, but to evaluate a culture by its own standards. Be aware that you’ll help shape American attitudes, just as they will influence you.
Editorial written by Thomas E. Grouling, Ph.D., Assistant Director, International Center, Drake University
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Subject: Who is to blame?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:38:15 10/25/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: n058d.lib.ucdavis.edu at 169.237.76.121
Message:
The difference between how people try to make it difficulf just to manipulate for sadistic reasons. This is what is amiss.
See both please!
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/53/OTXM.html
Oh did you see my transcr1pt?
Subject: Am I Crazy?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:18:29 10/25/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 169.237.52.8
Message:
Pleae read:
Subject: LEONET HEATS UP, WAS ISCANDRI RIGHT?
From: LAWYER JAMESON ARUNA
To: All
Date Posted: 16:46:33 10/25/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ac202-054.resnet.stonybrook.edu at 130.245.202.54
Message:
It was Alieu Iscandri who first made the allegation that Charles Margai was having sexual relations with his own relatives and some mehn pikin them, here on cocrioko. Now, Mr. Brima Labor Fofana has made the same claim at Leonenet. Was Charles shagging his family members? Was he shagging mehn pikin dem?
Alieu did say that he heard about these allegations agaist Margai a while back, but he was dismissed on this forum.
Is Charles just like the republican Foley?
Subject: Re: LEONET HEATS UP, WAS ISCANDRI RIGHT?
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 17:48:38 10/25/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
In addition, I like Charles Margai as a person and as a politician, I believe that he has more spunk than any on the SLPP side. I believe that he has a strong moral fibre which he exhibits in his strong opposition to the SLPP and its corrupt system of governing.
This is all dirty politics orchestrated by the SLPP. The party with no compunction to hold on to power at all costs. Maybe you guys need to look inward if you are looking for infidelity and immorality. The truth is that the campaign in 2007 is not going to be about morality, it is going to be about who can best lead sierra leone, and theres nary a person in the SLPP who fits that descr1ption.
Subject: Re: DISCLAIMER
From: M. Alieu Iscandari
To: All
Date Posted: 17:15:02 10/25/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
Dear lawyer, I have NEVER made any statements regarding Charles Margai. I dunno where you are comming from in that regard. I dont think that I know CFM enough to make that allegation against him, and I dont make spurrious allegations against anyone. Sorry find another person to hang that upon this time around. This is an official disclaimer. I supported Charles Margai when there were allegations that he was a "flunky" lawyer. Please do not get me involved in this and leave the mans name out of it. This is the DIRTY SLPP politics.
Subject: Re: DISCLAIMER
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 09:02:48 10/26/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
lawyer James Aruna is SLPP not PMDC NOT APC
Subject: Re: DISCLAIMER
From: MAKAYA
To: All
Date Posted: 07:04:25 10/26/06 ()
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You mean dirty APC politricks?
Subject: CALLS FOR IP
From: PLEASE KABS
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Date Posted: 13:35:33 10/25/06 ()
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Kabs and Mod,
Can you guys reintroduce the IP system. Alieu iscandri is destroying the forum. Kabs, as a man of God, please do us this favour. Enough is enough
Subject: Re: CALLS FOR IP
From: Look Who's Talking
To: All
Date Posted: 17:30:45 10/25/06 ()
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Edmund Koker, do us a favour, can you return to the cesspool you came from last week to hide behind your many false names so you can insult people here, and disgrace this forum?
when you do, this forum will return to a place free of Mende tribalists with no home training and no sense.
Subject: LATE STEVE BIO VERSUS ERNEST KOROMA
From: SAMUEL JAMES
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Date Posted: 13:08:40 10/25/06 ()
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Late Steve Bio got Ernest Koroma locked up at the CID during NPRC days for messing up with his wife. But for friends who intervened Ernest would have been history.
Ernest Koroma is therefore a repeat offender. Dr Harry Will is just another victim whose dear wife has been snatched. What a leader! APC nor try.
Subject: Re: LATE STEVE BIO VERSUS ERNEST KOROMA
From: IDIOT
To: All
Date Posted: 13:23:20 10/25/06 ()
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I GUESS THAT IS WHY HE IS NOW LATE, BECAUSE THEY GUNNED DOWN HIS RUF NPRC ARMS SELLING ASS. ERNEST IS ALIVE HE IS DEAD. THATS FUNNY.
WHY SHOULD SOMEONE HAVE ANOTHER LOCKED UP BECAUSE HE IS MESSING WITH HIS WIFE IF THAT IS NOT AN ABUSE OF POWER.
THANKS GOD HE DIED THE WAY HE DID. HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR SELLING ARMS TO THE NPRC AND THE RUF WHILE REMAINING A MEMBER OF THE RUF AND THE SLPP. is someonelese SCREWING HIS WIFE NOW?
Subject: Re: LATE STEVE BIO VERSUS ERNEST KOROMA
From: WOW!
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Date Posted: 07:09:11 10/26/06 ()
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I understand Ernest Koroma is doing just that, SCREWing!!!!!!!! Alieu too must be careful. This is sincere advice.
Subject: Re: LATE STEVE BIO VERSUS ERNEST KOROMA
From: No to Wow
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Date Posted: 08:14:36 10/26/06 ()
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alieu is a good guy.
Subject: SLPP LIAR: Alpha Saidu Bangura
From: Moijue
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Date Posted: 12:47:42 10/25/06 ()
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Moijueh and all,
This is a very shocking, reckless and cheap propaganda that this Saidu idiot is making. The guy is full of ----. Dr. Harry Will, my uncle, that I speak to every other day, will NEVER make such a statement to anyone without first talking to family members. As of a few days ago when I spoke to him, the man is solidly PMDC and busy coordinating things on the ground in Moyamba. I think Saidu has crossed the line. Together with Dr. Will, I am going to respond to this very SWIFTLY AND STRONGLY. I am trying to get to the full story from the link with no luck. I will go to cockorioko's site and try to pull it to read the details involved.
Dwight Jusu
Subject: Re: SLPP LIAR: Alpha Saidu Bangura
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 13:06:55 10/25/06 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
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Hi Dwight,dont forget that we are friends,it is wrong of you to insult me only because,I made a true posting you dont like.With all due respect to Dr.Will,I am sure he knows as well as i know that we(he and I)had a phone conversation and our leader,Hon.Solomon Berewa spoke to him on the phone and they made certain agreements.Dr.Will is a well respectable man,please,let us leave him out off this forum.
Dwight,let us please,continue our friendship with respect for each other.
Subject: Re: SLPP LIAR: Alpha Saidu Bangura
From: Pa Javombo
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Date Posted: 14:12:40 10/25/06 ()
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"Dr.Will is a well respectable man,please,let us leave him out off this forum."
If you wanted that you should have mentioned his name there in the first place.
Yuo started all these lies. Dwight is just defending his uncle aginst your lies.
Subject: Re: SLPP LIAR: Alpha Saidu Bangura
From: TIFFY TIFFY
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Date Posted: 12:50:36 10/25/06 ()
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You PMDC guys are fighting for a thief like HARRY WILL? Where is the new order. Lord have mercy. I give up on salone. Na de same soup. All you guys do is to recylcle these same old APC and SLPP thieves. Third force my rass.
Subject: Review of Constitution
From: Lawyer
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Date Posted: 12:28:32 10/25/06 ()
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Government has set up another constitutional Review Committee, to review the present Constitution (1991).
Do we have any flaw in our constitution???
Someone once sai, our consitution is not a problem, but the people are.
Subject: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 10:53:51 10/25/06 ()
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SIEERA LEONE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IN THE BAY AREA
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Press release contact: Dr. Matthew M.Timbo, President, Northern California APC Chapter: mt94538@comcast.net , (650) 580-2046
Town Hall Meeting, Thursday, November 9, 2006 @ 6:00 P.M. 1525 Webster Street, Oakland, CA 94612, (510) 839-0055
For Mr. Ernest Bai Koroma, Presidential Candidate for Sierra Leone’s July 28, 2007 elections, currently Minority leader in Sierra Leone’s Legislature
Mr. Ernest Bai Koroma’s visit to the United States is three fold. First, is to provide an International Forum for the APC National Leadership to explain the “New Vision of the All People’s Congress Party Sierra Leone”, focusing on Peace & Security; Democracy, Human Rights, Transparency, Accountability & Good Governance; Economic & Social Developments, encompassing Rural & Urban Areas. Secondly, is to appeal for United States and other International nations’ assistance on the conduct of Transparency, Free and Fair Elections, vis-à-vis our impending presidential and parliamentary elections scheduled for July 28, 2007. Thirdly, is to raise much needed funds to help in securing an APC party campaign victory in Sierra Leone.
Sierra Leone is situated on the west coast of Africa. It is bounded on the North by the Republic of French Guinea, on the South East by the Republic of Liberia, and on the West by the Atlantic Ocean. It is as the size of South Carolina with a population well over six million people. It was a British colony up to April 27, 1961 when it gained independence from Great Britain. A rebel civil war invaded the country around 1991 and it went on for a little over ten years. This conflict in Sierra Leone highlights the unique role of women in the context of war and its aftermath. While women served as sex slaves and human shields for RUF fighters, those attached to rebel groups often also protected abducted women and girls.
In a region of continued civil turmoil, women's peace-building strategies at both local and international levels played a key role in the future peace and security of Sierra Leone. This civil war raged for over a decade, leaving half of Sierra Leone's prewar population displaced, 50,000 dead, 100,000 mutilated and over a quarter of a million women raped. In the aftermath of the conflict, the UN completed the disarmament of 45,000 female and male combatants and agreed along with the government to the Special Court for Sierra Leone, which would prosecute individuals who bear "the greatest responsibility"
With the help of the international community, the warring factions were disarmed. The West African Armed forces of Nigeria first came to the rescue by the invitation of Sierra Leone government. But when the conflict intensified and significant destruction of lives and properties had already occurred in the country, the United Nations approved a resolution allowing thirteen thousand peace keepers to be deployed in Sierra Leone. This international peace keeping force remained in the country until the conflict was finally resolved and transition to democracy completed.
Sierra Leone's war gained worldwide attention for the key role diamond trade and mining played in fueling the conflict as well as the brutal tactics of the rebel force, the Revolutionary United Front (RUF) frequently amputated the limbs of women, men and children. Despite signing a peace deal with president-elect Ahmed Kabbah in 1996, Foday Sankoh, the rebel leader of the RUF, continued attacks on government forces and civilians that began in 1991.
The Lomé Peace negotiation was attended by two women and there was one reference in the Peace Agreement of July 7, 1999 regarding women: "Given that women have been particularly victimized during the war, special attention should be accorded to their needs and potentials in formulating and implementing national rehabilitation, reconstruction and development programs, to enable them to play a central role in the moral, social and physical reconstruction of Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 12:45:19 10/25/06 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
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Alieu,May the Almighty God bring your leader,Hon.Ernest Koroma safety to California.It will be fine for him to come and talk about all the good national issues you out lined in your posting,but it will also be good for him to understand that he is aspiring for a public office therefore,he must be willing to give himself up to the public for a critical and objective examination of his character and his past records.
When he comes to CA.let him tell the Sierra Leonean public (1) the rational for him to be leader,national chairman and paliamentary leader,contrary to the constitution of the APC party.
(2)why he ensured that dividendes from the reliance insurance company(a subsidiary of the Sierra Fishing company,which is jointly owned by the government and the PMMC)were directly paid into the personal account of the late Mr.Jamil Sahid Mohammed(who was his personal friend).And (3)I have been told by many members of the APC,that the only reason why Ernest Koroma was made leader out side the APC constitution,is because,he has a lot of money to spend in the party.Let him show the people how he got all that wealth?We need to make sure that he got his money by lawful means.It will be dangerous for us to encourage special interest money into our politics.
Once again I call on all my fellow Sierra Leoneans to join me in my fight to make sure that we(the true loving people of our country)do not allow the wrong people to hold sensitve positions in Sierra Leone.
I will end with this quotation from the "Holy Bible":
DO NOT GIVE YOUR CHILDREN'S BREAD TO THE DOGS.
Subject: Re: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
From: Atlanta Man
To: All
Date Posted: 21:33:17 10/25/06 ()
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Saidu,
This a an excellent enquiry into the lives of the people who want to rule us.
Now can you ask Berewa to tell us where he got the money from to build the house he built in his village?
He'sbeen a lwayer for many decades but never a built a baffa for himself anywhere in salon but only started building manssions
when he became a politician.
Can you aslo ask him how is awarding govt contracts as he is the man in charge.
We would also like to know how the story behind the escaped Isreali from Sierra Leone jail when Berewa was Justice minister.
How about telling us what he and his govt has done with all the money giving to the country.
When Berewa was here he said that a lady marvelled at the improvement made to connaught hospital to the extent that the lady wished she could now die having seen such an improvement in her life time.
Why is it that the Koinadugu district chairman of his own party did not use such admirable connaught hospital but had to come to the US for treatment when he got sick?
Did you talk about morality?
Bo lef. leh we nor pull tin den nar doe.
Subject: Re: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
From: jariatu saccoh
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Date Posted: 13:30:58 10/25/06 ()
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saidu you are welcome to bring yourself and your extremely large mouth, to california and ask questions of ernest koroma. otherwise I encourage you to shut up. Iscandari does not have to respond to you, you are not at the same level in life. You are an uneducated mouthpiece and he is an extremely intelligent lawyer who supoports the APC. he has always been apc wehile you have always followed the gravy train.
try born pekin so dat you go feba you compin man dem okobo tin. Me sister say you tin nor day grap nar