Subject: ABYSMAL - NO LIGHT IN OUR PARLIAMENT!
From: Roots
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Date Posted: 11:55:54 11/09/06 ()
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Still cannot understand why we spend so much money to do important assignments using the incompetent. I was shocked to understand that partliament had no elctricity supply yesterday because of the lack of competent elctricians. The present workers there are from china or malaysia. What continues to befell us?
A mass exodus of selfless individuals will greatly benefit Sierra Leone. None on this forum is willing to be a sacrifice for the good of the many. Talk is cheap!
Subject: ED BRADLY DEAD
From: 60 MINUTES
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Date Posted: 11:39:36 11/09/06 ()
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Subject: 500 new teachers threaten strike action in Bong
From: Korta Dogba
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Date Posted: 09:54:40 11/09/06 ()
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STAR RADIO
500 new teachers threaten strike action in Bong
Reported by Korta Dogba
Tuesday, 07 November 2006
Report from Gbarnga, Bong County says nearly five hundred public school teachers in the county have threatened to boycott classes.
Our correspondent said the public school teachers are demanding five months salary arrears owed them by government.
Our correspondent said the five hundred teachers are mainly teachers who replaced those who abandoned the classroom in search of better jobs.
The new teachers told our correspondent, government¡¯s failure to pay them has caused them untold suffering.
Deputy Education Minister for Administration, Hawah Goll-Kotchi promised that government would address the demand of the teachers.
Minister Goll-Kotchi had earlier told Star Radio government was preparing a supplementary payroll for new teachers.
The Deputy Education Minister clarified that government could not allow new teachers receive their salary cheques in the names of other people.
Subject: Ghana: Corruption Ranking Shocks Government
From: JUSTIN IBRAHIM
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Date Posted: 09:48:27 11/09/06 ()
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Ghana: Corruption Ranking Shocks Government
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Accra Mail (Accra)
November 8, 2006
Posted to the web November 8, 2006
Isaac Essel
The government has expressed dismay over the current report by an anti-corruption group, Transparency International, which ranked Ghana as the 93rd among 163 most corrupt countries in the world.
"We are disappointed about the result, giving us the same score as we had in 1999 presuppose that nothing at all has changed in terms of the fight against corruption".
Mr. Frank Agyekum, Government Spokesperson on Governance expressed the surprise in a comment to a local radio station in Accra yesterday.
"We do recognize that we have dropped in the Corruption Perception Index (CPI)". He however fought back and said: "We want to put on record that a lot more has been done in trying to fight corruption".
He cited the Procurement Act, the Financial Administration Act and Whistle Blowers Act among others as some of the "a lot of things" that the government has put in place to fight corruption in Ghana.
Mr Agyekum also announced his displeasure in the report. "To say that we have scored the same mark as we did in 1999 when these laws were not in place, I find it a bit difficult to believe because these laws were made to come and stem down the corruption level in the country. But the score appears as if no gains at all have been made."
According to the 2006 Corruption Perception Index that the Ghana Integrity Initiative (GII), the local chapter of Transparency International released on Monday, Ghana scored 3.3 representing a drop from the 3.5 recorded in 2005. Ghana's best CPI score was 3.9 achieved in 2002.
The Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index ranks countries in terms of the degree to which corruption is perceived to exist among public officials and politicians.
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The institutions that conducted the survey in Ghana included World Bank (International Development Association and International Bank for Reconstruction and Development), Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU), Country Risk Service and Country Forecast 2006, Merchant International Group, UN Economic Commission for Africa, World Economic Forum, the World Market Research Centre and , Risk Ratings, 2006.
119 countries in the index obtained a score of less than 5 on a scale from 0 (high corruption) to 10 (clean). As widely evidenced in empirical investigations, these are the countries where corruption severely hinders prosperity, barring the poor from access to basic goods and disallowing the powerless to raise their concern. These are the countries where people are victimized by the corruption of powerful individuals and where leaders and institutions fail to serve the public.
Finland, Iceland and New Zealand, (9.6 points) are those perceived to have near corruption free economies while Haiti is bottom of the list with a miserly 1.8 points.
Subject: THE CHIEF IN EXILE TO RETURN SOON
From: CHIEFDOM SPOKESWOMAN
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Date Posted: 14:18:31 11/08/06 ()
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The Chief wants Forumites to know that he will return to the forum in the coming days. The Chief has been very busy taking care of Chiefdom matters, including, but not limited to: complaints related to "call name, wan pound for wan pound-ten defaults, land disputes, ritual murder cases, money doubling scams, section Chief elections, etc".
On his return, the Chief will be "looking" at TYRANTS AND DICTATORS that caused Africa serious grief. To better perpare you for the article,SPEND TIME THINKING ABOUT:
---IDI AMIN (UGANDA)Reign from 1971 to 1979, was overthrown by Foreign and exiled invasion. Died in Saudi Aribia. Uganda is still under a Dictatorship.
---JEAN-BEDEL BOKASSA (Central African Republic-CAR-)Reign from 1966 to 1979. Overthrown in a coup aided by France. Was exiled in France, he later returned and was jailed for 6 years, later died as a free man. A shaky democracy still reign in CAR.
---FRANCISCO MACIAS NGUEMA (Equitorial Guinea) Reign from 1968 to 1979, was overthrown in a family coup. He was executed. Dictatorship still present in this country.
---MILTON OBOTE--was nominated by the Chief into "how to survive a coup hall of fame" (Uganda).Reign from 1962 to 1971, and from 1980 to 1985. Was eventually overthrown in a military coup. Died in South Africa. The country still has a shaky democracy.
---HISSENE HABRE (Chad) Reign from 1982 to 1990. Overthrown by a Rebel Army. House arrest in Senegal. Country still in dictatorship.
---SAMUEL K. DOE (Liberia). Reign from 1980 to 1990. Was overthrown and executed by rebels. The country is in a shaky democracy.
---MINGISTU HAILE MARIAM (Ethiopia). Reign from 1977 to 1991. Overthrown by rebel army, and exiled in Zimbabwe. Dictatorship still present in Ethiopia.
---SIAD BARRE (Somalia). Reign from 1969 to 1991. Overthrown by rebel army. Died in Nigeria. Somalia still divided and there is an ongoing war.
CHARLES TAYLOR( Liberia). Reign from 1997 to 2003. Forced to flee. Now in prison in the Hague and he is now "singing for his supper" in prison.
SHOULD I TELL THE CHIEF THAT I HEARD YOU ASKED " what about Siaka Stevens, Johnny Paul Koroma, "Josephine-escape-from-prison-in high-heels-kak-bobee-and-kak-wase-and-kabaslot- Saidu Momoh, and Foday "illiterate" Sankoh?"
GREETINGS FROM OUR CHIEFDOM.
Subject: Re: THE CHIEF IN EXILE TO RETURN SOON
From: GCE O'Level Englishman
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Date Posted: 12:51:24 11/09/06 ()
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"...SHOULD I TELL THE CHIEF THAT I HEARD YOU ASKED..."
As stated by the Chief, Dr. Curtis, RN, MPH, MD, DoD, FSSG, QRS, DoE, etc., etc.
The chief dae shoot oh!!!
Subject: The power of democracy. RUMMY STEPS DOWN
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 13:40:19 11/08/06 ()
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Embattld pentagon chief Rumsfield has decided to step down in the wake of a massive democratic victory, just moments after Nancy Pelosi the in coming speaker of the house announced that his resignation would be welcome by the democrats.
Come 2007, the SLPP cabal will also bow down to the will of the electorate who will vote overwhelmingly for the APC and PMDC parties.
Subject: Re: The power of democracy. RUMMY STEPS DOWN
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 11:31:38 11/09/06 ()
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You might be day dreaming.
Subject: Re: The power of democracy. RUMMY STEPS DOWN
From: SAMUEL K. DOE
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Date Posted: 16:19:53 11/08/06 ()
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will u have step down if u were miniter in Sierra leone? i know you are not a sierra leonean...but in case your citizenship is reinstated.
Subject: Re: The power of democracy. RUMMY STEPS DOWN
From: m. Alieu iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 18:38:09 11/08/06 ()
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I dont want to be a minister in sa lone, but if I was I would step down.
Subject: Re: The power of democracy. RUMMY STEPS DOWN
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 11:34:01 11/09/06 ()
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Your Dad went through all the corrupt days and you never asked him to resign.Shame on you.
Subject: ELECTRICITY FOR FREETOWN?
From: Nar True?
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Date Posted: 11:41:30 11/08/06 ()
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Nov 7, 2006, 17:50
A team of visiting Moroccan Engineers have assured Vice President
Solomon
Berewa that they will do everything in their power to solve the
perennial
problem of electricity in Freetown and the Western Area as a whole.
This assurance was made yesterday, Monday, 6th November, to the Vice
President in a meeting with top Moroccan Engineers at his Spur Road
residence. The Moroccan Engineers arrived in Freetown over the weekend
with
tons of loads of equipment and spare-parts for the generators at the
National Power Authority (NPA) power house at Kingtom.
Addressing the Vice President, the Head of the delegation, Anal
Bovanana,
said they have come to assist the Government in solving the power
generation crisis it is facing. He recognized the fact that Government
is
under pressure from the people of Sierra Leone, more especially, the
residents of the city of Freetown. He assured that by the time they
would
have finished with the necessary repair-works, which he noted, would be
done in conjunction with NPA Engineers, the issue of electricity will be
"a
thing of the past".
He further disclosed that they came with tons of loads of equipment and
spare-parts, including five top power generation Engineers to do the
necessary repairs on damaged parts of engines at the NPA. "When we shall
have finished, the local Engineers at the NPA would have been adequately
equipped to handle the machines whenever there is a problem, since we
shall
be working closely with them," the Head of the Delegation assured.
According to Mr. Bovanana, they had got themselves au fait with the
problem at the Kingtom power house during a feasibility study sometime
last
year. "That gave us a detailed knowledge of the problems at Kingtom, and
we
are, therefore, prepared to face the challenge," Mr. Bovanana further
assured.
Vice President Berewa welcomed the Moroccans and assured them of
Government's cooperation as well as Engineers and staff at the National
Power Authority and the Kingtom power house in particular.
He acknowledged that the problem of power-generation is indeed
affecting
Government's socio-economic strides, being that the lack of electricity
has
overshadowed all other positive strides made by government in the eyes
of
the people of especially Freetown.
"What ever we have done and continue to do as a government is over
shadowed by this problem of lack of electricity," he noted, and added,
"perhaps it is when this problem is ameliorated, would the people begin
to
see clearly what it has been doing towards the enhancement of their
welfare." He encouraged the Moroccans to do all they can in the shortest
possible time, in his words, "to bring our dream to reality" by
restoring
electricity back to the city of Freetown.
Subject: Re: ELECTRICITY FOR FREETOWN?
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 19:31:38 11/08/06 ()
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"A team of visiting Moroccan Engineers" and "with
tons of loads of equipment and spare-parts for the generators..." does not sound well?
Is this an event that took place only on Monday, 6th November, or a process that started a while back?
Subject: Re: ELECTRICITY FOR FREETOWN?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 18:23:02 11/08/06 ()
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Greetings my brothers and sisters.
When will the actual delegation come?
I believe that either the electricity problem that pervades Sierra Leone
is desperate or the Sierra Leone government is desperate for answers
to the situation or they are desperate for soothing words to get the day
by and get them back to power.
Firstly, except if I an misconstruing the various electricity situations
and named answers to these situations as we have had so many
delegations of Engineers and Entrepreneurs from three or more
countries that have visited Sierra Leone with a said intention to salvage
the same electricity situation, and more keep coming or that these
delegations are coming to bid for contracts, which we are not told
about to save face, I am unsure.
Nonetheless, in 2004 - 2005 a delegation from South Africa arrived in
Freetown with the intention to solve the electricity gridlock, then within
the same time frame another delegation came to Freetown and made
equal pronouncements. However, the story of the electricity problem
remains the same and no word has come out on the sincerity of these
delegations about the commencement of the actual work. But then we
constantly keep hearing of more delegations but no work or solution of
the same electricity problem.
What is the word on the Bumbuna Hydro Electric Power Project, which
is claimed will serve the entire Sierra Leone and extend services to
sister countries: Liberia and Guinea? The project, we were told is within
it's final face of completion. What happened to the named delegations
before this?
I am begging to feel that either we have not been able to put our
priorities straight or something fishy is amiss. I might be wrong
because I do not have the time to reread the various articles that
carried the news about the various delegations and the projects I made
mention of but I am confident that news indicated that shipment of
parts for the electricity project had begun or have been already been
received. It is a little wonder that we are still having delegations after
delegations yet, we are still having troubles with electricity in Freetown,
let alone the country as a whole. Where lies the problems or is it
another election bait, I am unsure.
Sierra Leone needs a leader, but most importantly, Sierra Leoneans
need action to unearth the problems. We cannot allow ourselves to go
on like this forever. Electricity is the key to every development of a
nation. If we cannot have electricity and keep on proudly begging from
other nations whose people scold them for corruption but are sending
or constantly given alms to Sierra Leone all the time when in fact, we
have the resources that should not allow us to bringing ourselves so
low for hand-outs, is a shame. Especially when the nations we go for
these hand-outs know for sure that we are not serious and honest, and
that the donations they make are used frivolously. How would one feel
comfortable, conscientiously knowing that what one does is wrong
and is talked about, to face the very people who are disturbed that the
people they send these hand-out are not receiving those gifts? We have
to put a stop to this chain of corruption by changing the dynamics of
the electoral process come 2007.
I Bambay Lansana Kamara is so proud and I can walk with my head
high in any place, at any time among any type of individuals because I
have not depended on any corrupt means, and have not lived on the
sweat and blood of other people; and would ask the same question:
can you say the same about yourself?
We should be firm to let our leaders know the facts so as to change the
ways they run the day-to-day affairs of Sierra Leone. I am sorry if I
sound irritated but seen the way the affairs of Sierra Leone is ran and
having flaky cynical promises kicks me bananas. Particularly after
47,000 people have been killed and thousands more amputated for the
same unfulfilled promises resulting from kleptomania.
Please understand that my anger is not about the accuracy or
inaccuracy of this delegation but the thing is, I am taking the whole
saga into consideration, viewing how one thing led to the other,
causing the most brutal war to be ever fought in my country, my
beloved country. It is absurd to see a cynical invitation of similar
recurrences that led to this brutal era.
I am particularly disturbed that I had to live my beloved country at all
when she is endowed with every beautiful thing one can imagine; and
for someone who probably might have stolen from me to question my
seriousness or what not is bizarre. When in fact, I can do better.
So whether this is true or false, it is best to appeal to the consciences
of our leaders or future leaders to be ashamed of going to beg from
other countries when in fact, we have the resources. It is o.k. for some
one to laugh at you when you know their laughter is out of ignorance
and envy. But it is something else to be guilty of what they laugh about
either secretly or in your face. Sierra Leone leaders must be able to
keep their heads-high when they represent us in the International
Community and will only be able to do so if their consciences are clear.
But the guilty are always afraid and always unsure. We can be positive
only if our consciences are clear. Otherwise, we can never deliver
effectively.
Ghana, that suffered great economic setbacks in the seventies is an
example of a thriving economy today because of electricity supply, not
withstanding good policies and good governance. The Dam that supply
energy to the country and to part of her neighbors has helped Ghana in
many faces.
Uganda is another economy that is been praised and used as Africa's
yardstick in that they have good supply of electricity to facilitate
speedy and effective operations within the country, they have good
governance though they fought so many wars and passed through
ineffective and corrupt governments that established bad policies. We
have no excuse for poor electricity supply particularly in the city.
South Africa is another example of a thriving economy though they
had apartheid and unrest for most part of their history, to name a few
African countries that have adequate electricity supply and are doing
remarkably well compared to Sierra Leone, were we are known for gold
and diamonds.
When it is dark in Sierra Leone 9/10s of the population is indoors
sleeping. Most shops and other businesses are closed therefore,
production from 7:00 pm to 8:00 am is less that .0003333%. How can
our economy grow in such a case? The Bumbuna Project started when I
was in the first grade, way back in the Seventies and is yet to be
completed. Without good electricity supply, we cannot manufacture
anything exportable, we cannot lore businesses into the country, we
cannot increase substantial tourism, we cannot effectively increase
communication, which will be a hindrance to education because
regardless of the illiteracy rate in the country, the free-flow of
information will help increase revenues, in that, people will know why
they should pay taxes and will willingly do so if they know what
happens to their money. So electricity should be an integral part of
nation-building. We have to stop this idea of "they will manage." Every
human being loves comfort and to deny them what some of us enjoy is
a bait for catastrophe as we witnessed in the gruesome eleven years
civil unrest. It is such ideas that they, the people can manage that
created the unimaginable anger that we saw in that war. It was the fact
that people bore such anger in their hearts and had no way of
expressing it verbally and the problems persisted with them seeing
leaders living large, for many many years, that culminated into the
expressed physically in our eleven-year brutal war.
When will the actual delegation come?
For God said, let there be light and there was; and He saw that it was
beautiful.
When will the actual Engineers come?
Subject: A USEFUL LESSON IN ELEMENTARY ECONOMICS
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 06:52:15 11/08/06 ()
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[The following posting about the nature and the role of the exchange rate between the Leone and the dollar in the creation of poverty in SL is presented here, courtesy of SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, in the hope of empowering a new generation of future leaders of SL who are unburdened by the Colonial Mentality that has afflicted each and every leader of our country since 1979, and who would therefore be dedicated to the emancipation of the majority of S/Leoneans from poverty, disease, and ignorance. For privacy reasons, the name of my correspondent has been duly redacted]
--- In MohmJ@...> wrote on Nov. 8, 2006:
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On Nov. 4, 2006, [Name Redacted]wrote:
"By the way Mr. Jalloh if you really believe that the Leone is equal in value to the US Dollar, I just happen to have a million Leones lying around which I will gladly swap for a million US Dollars that you may have.
[Name Redacted]:
Thank you for your offer. Sadly, it suggests your continuing shaky grasp of reality, in general, and insufficient understanding of exchange rates, in particular. Ordinarily, I would not address a point that I had repeatedly explained to you. For example, please see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SALONEDiscussion/message/813
However, there is a risk -- however slight -- that your misapprehensions might creep into the thinking of someone who would be called upon to prescribe economic policy for our already much misled country. It is for that reason alone that I humbly offer the following explanation in the hope that it would finally help you understand the error in reasoning underlying your above-quoted offer.
Being a realist, I do not pretend that I am currently living in the future -- when the exchange rate of the Leone to the dollar, hopefully, will be Le 1 = $1, if S/Leoneans finally elect a leader who is not afflicted with the Colonial Mentality that has made the past and present presidents of SL supplicants at the fraudulent feet of the IMF. Nor, do I pretend that I am currently living in the past -- when the exchange rate between the Leone and the dollar had been Le 0.80 = $1.
In reality -- meaning at the present time, which, it bears duly reminding you, should not be confused with either the past or the future -- the present exchange rate between the Leone and the dollar is over Le 3,000 = $1.
Accordingly, if you gave me the Le 1 million that you allege you have lying around, I would duly use only the present exchange rate to make the conversion from Leones to dollars -- and duly give you no more than a pitiful $333. That means, [Name Redacted], that, you would get the pauperous sum of less than $350 for your Le 1 million. In the slim hope that you would finally be able to appreciate the unconscionable extent of the massive poverty that a succession of clueless leaders has wrought upon millions of their hapless fellow S/Leoneans over the past 27 years of acquiescing in the IMF's massive fraud against the people of SL --by devaluing our once strong Leone -- kindly consider the following sobering fact:
Before the plumblessly gullible President Siaka Stevens and his like-minded successors succumbed to the transparent fraud foisted by the IMF upon their clueless governments since 1979, your one million Leones would have been exchanged for more than one million dollars -- instead of less than three hundred and fifty dollars today!
Of course, in view of your offer quoted above, you would be forgiven for failing to see the obvious connection between the gargantuan fraud committed by the IMF against the people of SL (with the acquiescence of their own government) and the resulting, totally avoidable, massive poverty inflicted upon the same people of SL. That, of course, comes as no surprise to those of us here who have witnessed you here repeatedly admit, proudly, that you do not know what patriotism is.
In closing, [Name Redacted], if you keep seeing the words, "exchange rate," over and over again in my above explanation of how I would decide whether to accept your offer to exchange your Leones for my dollars, there is a very good reason for that -- and a well-known mechanism known as -- you guessed it -- an exchange rate!
That means, [Name Redacted], that in the real world of finance (not to be confused with the make-believe world of wannabe economists), Leones are exchanged for dollars among real people based only upon the current exchange rate between the two currencies -- not based upon the novel theory of economics you espouse, namely, that they "really believe that the Leone is equal in value to the US Dollar."
So, my humble advice to you, [Name Redacted], is that if you want to exchange your one million Leones for a million dollars, despite a present exchange rate of over Le 3,000 = $1, then I respectfully suggest that you try, however vainly, to find someone who shares a belief in your novel theory of economics, namely: That the exchange rate between the Leone and the dollar is irrelevant to determining how many dollars should be exchanged for Leones.
Good luck!
Sincerely,
Moh'm
Subject: Re: A USEFUL LESSON IN ELEMENTARY ECONOMICS
From: Why????
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Date Posted: 11:32:05 11/08/06 ()
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Why do you have to reproduce these discussions here?
Subject: Re: A USEFUL LESSON IN ELEMENTARY ECONOMICS
From: Why Not?
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Date Posted: 12:38:36 11/08/06 ()
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Why not?
Subject: Re: A USEFUL LESSON IN ELEMENTARY ECONOMICS
From: Why???
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Date Posted: 13:52:39 11/08/06 ()
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Your ideas are based on faulty economic logic and you are averse to challenges, hence you resort to insults.
Subject: Re: A USEFUL LESSON IN ELEMENTARY ECONOMICS
From: You Are Not Serious
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Date Posted: 13:56:56 11/08/06 ()
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Evidence, my friend, show the evidence, if any, that you have underlying your unsubstantiated opinion that "Your ideas are based on faulty economic logic..."
If, and when you do, then you will be taken seriously. Otherwise, you are whistling in the wind, sadly.
Subject: JOHN LEIGH: “MASIBO TENDEY,” KABS-KANU AND CHARLES MARGAI
From: Morlai Conteh
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Date Posted: 01:02:17 11/08/06 ()
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Responding to the Reverend Kabs-Kanu’s short report on Mr. Charles Margai’s performance at a New Jersey political rally, Mr. John Leigh asks Mr. Kanu, who has exemplified himself as a very fair reporter of Sierra Leonean political issues:
“Are you trying to ridicle Mr. Margai?...”
The foregoing once again reflects Mr. Leigh’s lack of intelligence to comprehend simple sentences written in English. Any basic reader of the English language who read what Mr. Kanu wrote would not be stupid enough to ask the dumb question that John Leigh asked for it is implicit in Mr. Kanu’s writing that he was actually impressed with Mr. Margai’s performance, hence he warned:
“The Limba man says : Masibo Tendey" .Masibo cometh. If Charles Margai tells the Sierra Leonean people what he told New Jersey, APC and SLPP are in deep trouble. The young man understood the issues and boy, every legal explanation was followed by Latin rendition.
If words win elections, SLPP, APC, beware. Masibo Tendey.”
Continuing, Leigh criticizes Mr. Margai for speaking in latin while taking a cheap shot at Kabs Kanu as follows:
“As you know, speaking Latin does nothing to address the very severe problems confronting our people and country. Intelligent people would definitely find such a thing quite odd, even useless. But, Oh us gullible SLeoneans; we are easily impressed and eventually misled by irrelevancies.”
Again, John Leigh falters here quite miserably in understanding Kabs-Kanu. Mr. Kanu stated that “every legal explanation was followed by a latin rendition.” Doesn’t this mean that Margai’s core medium of communication was not latin and that his use of latin was secondary to whatever language or languages that he utilized to communicate with his audience? Who by the way is John Leigh to tell Margai what language he should speak? Leigh goes on to state:
“Now you know why Mr. Margai is called a legal luminary: he slices-in, Latin phrases when talking to pre-literate farmers and others in the SLeone countryside most of whom hardly understand Creole, let alone English or the language of the other tribe next door. Initially, such opincall was impressive but it did nothing for him while campaigning for NUP.”
The above is a blatant lie. Margai does not use “Latin phrases when talking to pre-literate farmers and others in SLeone countryside most of whom hardly understand Creole..” Unlike John Leigh, Margai’s fluency is not limited to English. He communicates well in more than one Sierra Leonean language. I have listened to him address political rallies in Freetown, Bo and Makeni. The guy’s as fiery as he is eloquent. He has that magic to captivate and move his audience. Can the dunce and boorish John Leigh ever rise to this level? Not in a lifetime.
It is important to note that Mr. Leigh, a vocal cyber critic of Mr. Margai never attempted to attend any of Mr. Margai’s rallies to challenge him on the issues. Why? Leigh was very scared that Ngoh Charles would bring him down intellectually. So being the coward and political flunky that he has always been (Leigh received zero votes at Makeni but turned around to endorse the man he had called a crook), he chose to hide in his hole in Massachusetts and only surface to ask Mr. Kanu DUMB questions.
It is sufficient to state that as Margai’s PMDC continues to grow, the words that we have to remember are those that came out of the mouth of our own impartial Kabs-Kanu – “Masibo Tendey.”
Subject: Re: JOHN LEIGH: “MASIBO TENDEY,” KABS-KANU AND CHARLES MARGAI
From: Moijue
To: All
Date Posted: 13:11:18 11/08/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-135-83-230.range86-135.btcentralplus.com at 86.135.83.230
Message:
If MARGAI CAN speak latin then HE IS INDEED A VERY FLUNKY LAWYER.
JEALOUSY is not good for mankind.
Subject: Re: JOHN LEIGH: “MASIBO TENDEY,” KABS-KANU AND CHARLES MARGAI
From: ok dok
To: All
Date Posted: 11:39:59 11/09/06 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
Entered From: px2nr.wp.shawcable.net at 24.66.94.141
Message:
Moigboi,
WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR THE TYPE OF HEAD YOU DISCRIBE.sORRY.
Subject: Re: JOHN LEIGH: “MASIBO TENDEY,” KABS-KANU AND CHARLES MARGAI
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:57:44 11/08/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-dtc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.116.198
Message:
Dear Moijue:
Diligently analyzing the background of a would-be president of SLeone; or calling attention to some of the spurious personalities around him such as disbarred lawyers and munda tombo dumbo munkus, remedials and flunkies, or examining the way he went about setting up and controlling his privately-owned and benevolent-dictatorship political party may have absolutely nothing to do with jealousy.
Please think very carefully with an open mind about the real issues involved here. Thank you very much. - JL
Subject: Re: JOHN LEIGH: “MASIBO TENDEY,” KABS-KANU AND CHARLES MARGAI
From: Moijue
To: All
Date Posted: 08:31:27 11/09/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-135-83-230.range86-135.btcentralplus.com at 86.135.83.230
Message:
You know very well i dont need to think carefully, as i was part and parcel of the creation of PMDC.U wish you were in MARGAI'S position.
Subject: Re: JOHN LEIGH: “MASIBO TENDEY,” KABS-KANU AND CHARLES MARGAI
From: Maseray
To: All
Date Posted: 00:53:40 11/09/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-44c29146.dyn.optonline.net at 68.194.145.70
Message:
Your obsession with Margai leaves one with no alternative but to conclude that you are JEALOUS OF MARGAI. In this case Moijue is right.
Subject: re: DEMOCRATS GAIN CONTROL OF HOUSE OF CONGRESS
From: Musa Kal
To: All
Date Posted: 22:31:45 11/07/06 ()
Email Address: muskalawa@yahoo.com
Entered From: adsl-69-230-230-176.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net at 69.230.230.176
Message:
It is evitable that Domecrats in the United State House of Representative have won the house of representative, with NANCY POLOCY the first Female head of the house of representative.
But Democrats failed to gain total control in the Senate.
Subject: Re: re: DEMOCRATS GAIN CONTROL OF HOUSE OF CONGRESS
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 03:19:49 11/08/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-24-7-7-92.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 24.7.7.92
Message:
Its about time man.
Subject: Re: re: DEMOCRATS GAIN CONTROL OF HOUSE OF CONGRESS
From: Allie Rainbow
To: All
Date Posted: 11:03:23 11/08/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 205.134.0.39
Message:
let's hope that things change!because Politicians on both sides of the aisle generally serve special interest more than the interests of their Constituents.
Subject: Introducing Sekou Dauda Bangura
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 22:05:25 11/07/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h167-156-253.63.chubb.com at 167.156.63.253
Message:
For those who do not know him , Mr. Sekou Dauda Bangura is an accomplished journalist. He worked for THE ORACLE newspaper in Sierra Leone and is the Editor-In-Chief of the SIERRA LEONEAN NEWSLETTER of New Jersey.
He is a graduate of Fourah Bay College where he studied English and Political Science. He recently graduated from Seton Hall University with an M.A. degree .
He is a compelling speaker also and those of you who heard him at the town meeting can recall his beautiful lecture-cum-question on GLOBALIZATION, one of the courses he took for his Masters degree .
I worked with him on the SIERRA LEONEAN NEWSLETTER and he is a member of COCORIOKO, but he has a very busy schedule.
WELCOME TO THE FORUM, DAUDA
Subject: International Politics
From: CADMUS
To: All
Date Posted: 14:49:53 11/07/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: proxy1.dmu.ac.uk at 146.227.11.232
Message:
I woke up sunday morning to hear that SADAM HUSAIN has been found guilty and sentenced to death. Ofcourse the suprise was the suprise itself.
SADAM was tried under rules formulated by Britain and the US. The Judges were Trained in the US and England.
Halfway through the trials, 3 of the Defence Lawyers have been shot dead(risky this lawyer business Alieu in some places).
Towards the end of the trial,the Trial judge decided that SADAM was not a DICTATOR after all. True to form the Judge got fired, sacked very quickly.
The new Judge, without even reading the papers,armed with his brief from the colonial masters, immediately decided that SADAM was a Dictator.
And then, wait for it,the Court decision was announced on SUNDAY....2 day before the Congrssional Elections in the US. Coincidence?
If this was Africa, you will hear cries of 'Tin pot dictatorship and 'Banana republic... but Britan and the US decleared the Court decision a success for Democracy.The next day the British PM Blair, remembers that Britain was actually against hanging anyone even if it was SADAM HUSAIN.He is goin to try to convience BUSH. Confused?
I am sure glad I am a Sierra Leonean.I trust in our democracy.
Subject: Re: International Politics
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 03:17:51 11/08/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-24-7-7-92.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 24.7.7.92
Message:
I trust in our democracy.
You kidding learned counsellor. Do you really mean that you trust the democracy that we have now?
Subject: Will SLPP win the next election fairly? Alieu's Question
From: CADMUS
To: All
Date Posted: 14:30:17 11/07/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: proxy1.dmu.ac.uk at 146.227.11.232
Message:
My Borther Alieu,
Sorry I could not reply to your Question at the time you asked it.Time constaints means that it is difficult to maintain a good conversation with you people in the US. The problem is when it is 12 o;clock here it is say 2 pm in some parts of the States.
The answer to your question however Alieu is a big fat 'YES'
SLPP is capable of conducting a fair and free election in Sa Lone.We have the experience and the record to prove it.We are the only Party that have ever done so.
I was very young in 1967, but I am told, and reliably so,and have also read documents to confirm that the SLPP, which was the ruling party at that time organised the election and actually lost it..yes Lost it.We did not know how to cheat then, and we do not know how to cheat now. You see Alieu we do have a history of fair play. We will continue that fair play mentality to July 2007.
As a Lawyer, a respected MEMBER OF OUR NOBLE PROFESSION, You know that Sa lone today is a Free country.You know that Democracy is flurishing. The Press is free to write what they want(the fact that most of them write rubbish all time cannot be blamed on the SLPP)
WE ARE MAINTAING FREEDOM and Democracy in Sa Lone,which is an important Underlining principle of the rule of Law.
The Courts as you know are highly independent,the Judges are doing their best, no different from London or the US in terms of bias.When I have to defend a Black Youth before a white Magistrate in London, nine times out of ten, I know the score.I say this just to confirm that this things are not unique to Sa Lone.
The fact is Alieu, SLPP has focused on wining the hearts and Minds of Sierra leoneans.Massive improvement for the youth, Massive equal opportunity effort for weomen, and fighting to remove all tribal boundries.The Party has refuse to get involve in name calling, and personality politics.
We love Salone.
This is what SLPP stand for, This is what Sa Lone needs.SLPP knows that. That is why we will win the Election fairly come 2007.
ps.
I will be going to my village to do my bit of campaigning between December/January. I would like to invite you Alieu to come to my Village and see for yourself how the other half lives.
Stay blessed.
Subject: Re: Will SLPP win the next election fairly? Alieu's Question
From: Sekou Dauda
To: All
Date Posted: 16:20:04 11/08/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-44c5846d.dyn.optonline.net at 68.197.132.109
Message:
Aside from elections won by Sir Milton Margai, the SLPP has never won a free and fair election. The 1996 election that brought Kabba to power was not free and fair; James Jona made Kabba president. This explains why Jona was first appointed as Ambassador and Permanent Representative to the UN, and later as Minister of Finance.
How can you talk about free and fair elections when the results exceeded the number of registered voters in both the South and the East? How can you talk about free and fair elections when Jona declared elections results in parts of the north null and void for alleged irregularities? When the same irregularities were reported in parts of the South and the East, Jona only deducted the vote count- instead of declaring the results void as he did in the north.
How can you talk about free and fair elections under the SLPP when no APC candidate was allowed to stand in both the South and the East during the last election? When we talk about fair elections, it means all the political parties can put up candidates to contest without fear of victimization,molestation, intimidation or brutalization. But that was exactly what the SLPP did with those who wanted to contest as APC candidates.
We may say that elections were fair in Freetown and the North; but in the South-East, the results were doctored by the SLPP. A projected voter turnout of 60% came out to be more than 100% in the South and the East.
Having "free and fair election" does not mean we have democracy in Sierra Leone. We may be right to say that we are a transitional democracy. But when you consider the fact that all the elements of democracy are not in place, we can arguably say that we're still an authoritarian state.
How can you talk about a free press under the SLPP when journalists are arrested and detained for
criticising Kabba and Co? How can you talk about a free press when a journalist was killed by an SLPP operative?
Considering the fact that the judiciary is not independent under Kabba's SLPP, and taking cognizant of the multiplicity of arbitrary arrests and detention without trial, we cannot talk about the "Rule of Law" in Sierra Leone under SLPP leadership.
Under a free and fair election, the SLPP will suffer a very humiliating defeat. The party has lost the support of the majority of the people because of its dismal record. SLPP politicians are so steep in corruption that famed Sierra Leonean musician, Emerson came out with the record "Borbo beleh." Emerson even conferred a master's degree to the most corrupt in the SLPP.
Outraged by the level of unprecedented corruption under Kabba's SLPP, the United Kingdom and the United States banned the most notorious from entering their shores.
How do you expect the SLPP to win a fair election with this kind of track record that leaves much to be desired? Get real my friend!The people of Sierra Leone want a change for the better.They are prepared to settle for any other party, but not the SLPP.
Amid the filth and squalor, and the unending blackout, rapacious SLPP politicians put up castles and mansions with money meant for rebuilding the battered nation. And you believe the people are happy?
I'm sure you know what is 'political sovereignty of the people.' It simply means that in the end, in the final analysis, the people are supreme. They can make and unmake a government. Come 2007, the SLPP will face the people to give an account for its stewardship.
Subject: Re: Will SLPP win the next election fairly? Alieu's Question
From: Sekou Dauda
To: All
Date Posted: 16:09:56 11/08/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-44c5846d.dyn.optonline.net at 68.197.132.109
Message:
Aside from elections won by Sir Milton Margai, the SLPP has never won a free and fair election. The 1996 election that brought Kabba to power was not free and fair; James Jona made Kabba president. This explains why Jona was first appointed as Ambassador and Permanent Representative to the UN, and later as Minister of Finance.
How can you talk about free and fair elections when the results exceeded the number of registered voters in both the South and the East? How can you talk about free and fair elections when Jona declared elections results in parts of the north null and void for alleged irregularities? When the same irregularities were reported in parts of the South and the East, Jona only deducted the vote count- instead of declaring the results void as he did in the north.
How can you talk about free and fair elections under the SLPP when no APC candidate was allowed to stand in both the South and the East during the last election? When we talk about fair elections, it means all the political parties can put up candidates to contest without fair of victimization, intimisdation or brutalization. But that was exactly what the SLPP did with those who wanted to contest as APC candidates.
We may say that elections were fair in Freetown and the North; but in the South-East, the results were doctored by the SLPP. A projected voter turnout of 60% came out to be more than 100% in the South and the East.
Having "free and fair election" does not mean we have democracy in Sierra Leone. We may be right to say that we are a transitional democracy. But when you consider the fact that all the elements of democracy are not in place, we can arguably say that we're still an authoritarian state.
How can you talk about a free press under the SLPP when journalists are arrested and detained for critic ising Kabba and Co? How can you talk about a free press when a journalist was killed by an SLPP operative?
Considering the fact that the judiciary is not independent under Kabba's SLPP, and taking cognizant of the multiplicity of arbitrary arrests and detention without trial, we cannot talk about the "Rule of Law" in Sierra Leone under SLPP leadership.
Under a free and fair election, the SLPP will suffer a very humiliating defeat. The party has lost the support of the majority of the people because of its dismal record. SLPP politicians are so steep in corruption that famed Sierra Leonean musician, Emerson came out with the record "Borbo beleh." Emerson even conferred a master's degree to the most corrupt in the SLPP.
Outraged by the level of unprecedented corruption under Kabba's SLPP, the United Kingdom and the United States banned the most notorious from entering their shores.
How do you expect the SLPP to win a fair election with this kind of track record that leaves much to be desired? Get real my friend!The people of Sierra Leone want a change for the better.They are prepared to settle for any other party, but not the SLPP.
Amid the filth and squalor, and the unending blackout, rapacious SLPP politicians put up castles and mansions with money meant for rebuilding the battered nation. And you believe the people are happy?
I'm sure you know what is 'political sovereignty of the people.' It simply means that in the end, in the final analysis, the people are supreme. They can make and unmake a government. Come 2007, the SLPP will face the people to give an account for its stewardship.
Subject: Re: Will SLPP win the next election fairly? Alieu's Question
From: CADMUS
To: All
Date Posted: 06:07:19 11/09/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: imola.mkschools.net at 83.100.168.41
Message:
Sekou Dauda asks...'how can we talk of free press in Sierra leone when Journalists are arrested and detained for criticising Kabba'...?
Mr Dauda,You came to the Forum with high credentials as stated by the good Rev Kabs Kanu,I would expect honesty and sincerity from you.
please tell me and others on this Forum the name/names of Journalist/s that have been arrested and detained:
1 Simply for criticising Kabbah
2 Without the due process of the Laws of Sierra Leone?
I will wait for your answer before dealing with your other points.
Subject: Re: Will SLPP win the next election fairly? Alieu's Question
From: Sekou Dauda
To: All
Date Posted: 07:31:46 11/09/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: mfhnnadn01sun.nissan-usa.com at 209.64.87.68
Message:
I'm sure you know the name Paul Kamara? Not to talk about Hilton Fyle and a host of others. You also know how Paul's assistant editor was murdered.
Subject: Re: Will SLPP win the next election fairly? Alieu's Question
From: Bobson
To: All
Date Posted: 12:11:27 11/09/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 67.63.2.157
Message:
Did you say HILTON FYLE?
There is a big fat ??? on that sir.
Subject: MARGAI WAS SUPERB..IF HE CAMPAIGNS LIKE THIS, MASIBO
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 09:38:43 11/07/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 71.250.218.196
Message:
The Limba man says : Masibo Tendey" .Masibo cometh. If Charles Margai tells the Sierra Leonean people what he told New Jersey, APC and SLPP are in deep trouble. The young man understood the issues and boy, every legal explanation was followed by Latin rendition.
If words win elections, SLPP, APC, beware. Masibo Tendey.
Subject: Re: MARGAI WAS SUPERB..IF HE CAMPAIGNS LIKE THIS, MASIBO
From: Amara
To: All
Date Posted: 01:10:12 11/08/06 ()
Email Address: lawlawde80@yahoo.com
Entered From: 68-184-42-3.static.oxfr.ma.charter.com at 68.184.42.3
Message:
Unfortunately some of us cannot spear our precious time to listen to the same trash this youngin Charles keep saying whereever he goes. Just a word for the wise, i assume we the Sierra Leoneans residing in USA have at least a mind far beyond just trash talking and empty gimmic. What has latin slangs and God knows what else he was using have to do with the issues our nation face? This is a recap of self-styled enigma and a clear deception. Keep hallucinating Charles, you will wake up with IV SSRI when the time approaches.
Subject: Re: MARGAI WAS SUPERB..IF HE CAMPAIGNS LIKE THIS, MASIBO
From: Albert Moinina
To: All
Date Posted: 01:47:50 11/08/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 218.248.0.178
Message:
Does the use of latin justify your statement that he was talking trash? My friend, I think, you went overboard. Even if you don't like Margai's politics, has he not addressed so many issues since his visit? People, we have to be objective and make constructive critism.
I have no problem Margai been criticised for using latin, but does that justify saying he speaks trash? If you are a supporter of Berewa, what would you say about his disrespect towards the women who asked him about garbage collection, postal system and the state of the economy?
Hmmmmmm.
Subject: Re: MARGAI WAS SUPERB..IF HE CAMPAIGNS LIKE THIS, MASIBO
From: John. E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 15:48:47 11/07/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-mtc-ae04.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.8
Message:
Dear Rev. Kabs Kanu:
You've kindly reported that in a recent PMDC function in New Jersey, "every legal explanation was followed by Latin rendition" by Mr. Margai.
Why was this point reported? Are you trying to ridicle Mr. Margai? Or are you joining the crowd in the exaltation of the Latin-quoting speaker?
As you know, speaking Latin does nothing to address the very severe problems confronting our people and country. Intelligent people would definitely find such a thing quite odd, even useless. But, Oh us gullible SLeoneans; we are easily impressed and eventually misled by irrelevancies.
Now you know why Mr. Margai is called a legal luminary: he slices-in, Latin phrases when talking to pre-literate farmers and others in the SLeone countryside most of whom hardly understand Creole, let alone English or the language of the other tribe next door. Initially, such opincall was impressive but it did nothing for him while campaigning for NUP.
It is my opinion that Mr. Margai can better help his country, not by showing off in memorized Latin phrases but by learning as much as he possibly could about economics analysis, finance, banking, foreign trade and investment, executive management, globalization, how the IMF and the World Bank work, external reserves, currency degradation and appreciation, the stock market, development, international relation, benevolent dictatorships and so on.
What use is a Latin-quoting Sierra Leonean to his countrymen and women if the vast majority of his people are so poor and so lacking in basic necessities that most die before they are even 40 years of age?
It would be far more beneficial if that person tries to upgrade his skills in the relevant areas of human endeavor so that he is able to speak the relevant laguage of the times. Thank you very much. - JL
Subject: Re: MARGAI WAS SUPERB..IF HE CAMPAIGNS LIKE THIS, MASIBO
From: Sekou Dauda
To: All
Date Posted: 21:39:08 11/07/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-44c5846d.dyn.optonline.net at 68.197.132.109
Message:
Charles Margai came out as a very powerful and compelling speaker. He touched on an array of issues: economic,legal,political and a whole lot more. And he presented a roadmap to restoring Sierra Leone to her glorious days. His plans are quite grandiose!
Honestly, he was eloquent and brilliant in his presentation. His energy level was high, and he displayed a level of confidence that is unparalleled.
Having listened to him at the Majestic Ramada Inn on North Brunswick, New Jersey, I came up with these questions:
Can he really deliver? Does he have what it takes to turn Sierra Leone around? Is it just another case of 'Much ado, about nothing'?
What is your take on this man that claims to be one of Sierra Leone's best legal luminaries?
Is it just 'all sound and fury, signifying nothing'?
Subject: Re: MARGAI WAS SUPERB..IF HE CAMPAIGNS LIKE THIS, MASIBO
From: Albert Moinina
To: All
Date Posted: 06:24:07 11/08/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 218.248.0.178
Message:
I believe he is commited to what he says and credible. We have to give him our support to bring his vision for the country to fruition
Berewa sometime ago made a simple and unambigious statement that Freetown will have 24 hr electricity. Just recently, he has backtracked from his statement that it was never a promise. He said the statement was based on NEGOTIATIONS AT THE TIME. You see how our present government takes us for granted?
Coming back to your question, we should give Margai a chance because he is a far better candidate than Berewa to lead us from misery.
Subject: Re: MARGAI WAS SUPERB..IF HE CAMPAIGNS LIKE THIS, MASIBO
From: Pa javombo
To: All
Date Posted: 17:09:52 11/07/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-66-56-36-91.hsd1.ga.comcast.net at 66.56.36.91
Message:
John,
Would you want to debate Charles on the issues you outlined?
He is ready to take you up on them.If you are the patriotic Sierra Leonean you claimed to be go to Sierra Leone where Charles and he tells me he is reday to debate you there.
You are so obsessed with this guy that when ever his name is mentioned you go beserk. I would have respected you if you were attacking Charles on issues. But since your dismal political failure and turn about face from
"kalo kalo, Yuki yuki" SLPP government to your now acclaimed govt of saving people from the mess they themselves have created, nothing good should be mentioned about that won't send you to the rest room on a ragular basis.
Are you still attacking M'om Jalloh on economics?
You are indeed bufoon.
Man it is time for you to put up or shut up or go to hell..
Subject: Re: MARGAI WAS SUPERB..IF HE CAMPAIGNS LIKE THIS, MASIBO
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:55:20 11/08/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-dtc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.116.198
Message:
Dear Mr. Pa javombo:
My response to the series of questions you’ve asked and the comments you’ve made in response to the issue of Rev. Kabs Kanu’s reporting re the ‘Latin renditions’ by Mr. Margai in New Jersey is as follows and in chronological sequence:
Q1. “Would you like to debate Charles [Mr. Margai] on the issues you outlined? He is ready to take you up on them.If you are the patriotic Sierra Leonean you claimed to be go to Sierra Leone where Charles and he tells me he is reday to debate you there.”
A1. Please tell Mr. Margai that he is free to make the offer himself to me – not through you, or any disbarred lawyer or Tombo Dumbos quick to insult. Or he can do so himself through the SLPP Admin office in Freetown. His offer must be in writing and must set forth the following: the issues he would like to discuss, when and where; the duration and the rules for overall good management of the debate itself. I will review his submission and respond likewise to conclude the arrangement.
Thank you but a point of warning may be in order, though.
As you might know, I have already agreed with Dr. Baimba Kamara of the PMDC in a published article that Mr. Margai is more important than me because he is a presidential candidate and I am not – not even a candidate for any party office. Accordingly, he may prefer to debate with those of equal importance instead of degrading his higher status by descending to my lowly level. It’s up to him anyway. Just thought I should in all fairness bring such to your attention just in case ………...
Q2. “You are so obsessed with this guy [Mr. Margai] that when ever his name is mentioned you go beserk.”
A2. Now, now, please don’t loose your cool! The fact that I am al3rt to the yap-yap and irrelevancies your man spews forth does not mean I “go berserk” whenever his name is mentioned. Let’s face it, your man’s shallow background is well known to me and since we represent competing political parties, I intend to focus on issues that are relevant to the campaign.
Q3. “I would have respected you if you were attacking Charles on issues.”
A3. I do not seek your respect and never will. Please keep it to yourself or dish it out generously to whomsoever you believe qualifies for it. I seek only your understanding – if such is indeed possible. Period!
Moreover, my diligence in following your man’s activities rests solely upon the issues presented by the 2007 election. As you know, one single individual – e.g. Kwame Nkrumah or Idi Amin or Charles Taylor or Samuel Doe or Sani Abacha or Foday Sankoh or Joseph Momoh or Siaka Stevens or Sheku Toure, Jamil Yahyah, etc. can have a huge impact on a country’s people.
In fact, in our weak and backward societies, one individual can make or break a whole country.
Accordingly, the background of each of those who seek to govern us is a most relevant issue that needs diligent and thorough analysis. If you don’t understand and accept this principle, then there is no need for you to waste time with me in this forum. Thank you.
Lastly, you are the one engaged in personally attacking me. You’ve accused me of going ‘beserk’, of automatic trips ‘to the rest room on a ragular basis’ and directing such irrelevancies to me as: “Are you still attacking M'om Jalloh on economics?”, “You are indeed bufoon.” And “Man it is time for you to put up or shut up or go to hell.”
Please don’t loose your cool and your dignity. Show some respect for your use of "Pa". The campaign is still in its early days.
Q4. “But since your dismal political failure and turn about face from
"kalo kalo, Yuki yuki" SLPP government to your now acclaimed govt of saving people from the mess they themselves have created, nothing good should be mentioned about that won't send you to the rest room on a ragular basis.”
A4. Once again, please learn to retain your dignity in the face of postings you deem adverse or postings coming from any individual you perceive as your political opponent. Whatever you do, please keep your cool! That is the only way we can properly address our nation’s problems during the many months ahead and beyond.
First, nothing about party politics or what you or your man say about politics has ever had a physical impact me. So, my reacting by going to the rest rooms on a regular basis in response to your attacks or politics happenings is completely out of the question. It has never happened and unlikely to happen.
Second, Makeni was not a “dismal political failure” for me at all. It was a failure of our democracy within the SLPP and for the political development of Sierra Leone. It failed for your man, too, and he so condemned it also. Those of you who support him ought not to get upset with me because I choose an approach different from him in confronting the matters arising from Makeni.
And the way he went about organizing his new party is precisely on the same basis as the bad culture that Makeni represents. I will never condemn Makeni and then use similar methods to establish and control my own personal political vehicle complete with yesmen and lackeys. I prefer to reform from within on the basis of objectivity.
Third, your claim that I have turned “about face from "kalo kalo, Yuki yuki" SLPP government to your now acclaimed govt of saving people from the mess they themselves have created,………. is pure rubbish. Your comprehension of my preferred approach to 2007 is indeed poor. I am still against "kalo kalo, Yuki yuki" government action but I have decided to seek reform from within with VP Berewa than from the outside with flunkies, disbarred lawyers and tombo dumbos. Period.
Last, I am not with the present SLPP government at all. I am outside it and not supporting it. My politics is much too different. Hence I am seeking reforms outside it. In assessing my views on my approach to reforms, please try and be analytical.
Q5. Are you still attacking M'om Jalloh on economics?
A5. No. Mr. M’om Jalloh attacked the candidate I endorsed in a highly accusatory manner and then wanted me to respond as per his set of irrelevant questions.
I countered. He then became too emotional in reacting. So I stayed away from him. Suffice it to say that his accusations of fraud against the IMF; his accusations of “cluelessness” against SL officials and his proposal re restoring the exchange rate between the Dollar and the Leone for a parity of $1.00 = Le1.00 is total rubbish and highly nonsensical.
Q6. You are indeed bufoon. Man it is time for you to put up or shut up or go to hell..
A6. Let others judge who the buffoon is from our public record and our writings. Besides, I have always – and will always - put up. Hence there will never the need to shut up or go to hell. You can’t put up. You are too short tempered and inarticulate.
Thus it is you who should shut up. Even so, I very much would like you and your colleagues to ascend to haven. Hell is no good. Please be of good cheer. Thank you very much. - JL
Subject: Re: MARGAI WAS SUPERB..IF HE CAMPAIGNS LIKE THIS, MASIBO
From: Pa Javombo
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Date Posted: 21:53:28 11/08/06 ()
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John,
Cotinue to stock your peptobismo, because your diarreah is going to continue since the mention of Charles gives you diarreah. That name is going to be always mentioned.
You must be ashamed of yourself John.
If personal attacks on Cahrles is the way to curry favor from the SLPP you've got a long way to go.
You should be ashamd of yourself.
You should be asking yourself if you are worth anything to Sierra Leone and anywhere for that matter. I cannot fathom how not a single person of the four million people in the country you claim to belong to cannot nominate you when you contested for the "Yuki, Yuki" (Your word not mine) SLPP leadership. Does that not tell you that you are not worth a dime in the eyes of Sierra Leoneans?
Did you say you do not expect me to respect you?
You don't desreve it boy.
You can go on writing your long essays bufoon.
Subject: Re: MARGAI WAS SUPERB..IF HE CAMPAIGNS LIKE THIS, MASIBO
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 09:46:49 11/07/06 ()
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I continue to have my doubts about "issues" campaigning winning elections in a society with one of the greatest number of illiterates. I have lived long enough to see how many people a bag of rice takes to the polling stations. How about this concern Kabs?
Subject: Re: MARGAI WAS SUPERB..IF HE CAMPAIGNS LIKE THIS, MASIBO
From: Global literacy movement
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Date Posted: 19:33:31 11/07/06 ()
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King
What percentage of Sierra leoneans are literate?
What must be done to bring universal literacy to Sierra Leone.
African politicians seem to have mastered the art of deception and detrimental corruption, thus neglecting
Basics like education, in an increasingly literate world.
Thank you for your insights!!
Subject: Re: MARGAI WAS SUPERB..IF HE CAMPAIGNS LIKE THIS, MASIBO
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 19:14:02 11/08/06 ()
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"What percentage of Sierra leoneans are literate?"
(Global literacy movement)
Generally speaking, those numbers vary from time to time, person to person, agency to agency, and what have you. But most important, the word "literate" is not an easy term to define within Sierra Leonean context. "SIERRA LEONEAN CONTEXT",.... whatever you make of it. lol.
But literate or literacy consist of words like EDUCATED, CULTURED, LUCID, POLISHED, etc. How many Sierra Leoneans with secondary and or university degrees that are not cultured or lucid? Truth is, this question is just too phylosophical for me. Sorry.
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"What must be done to bring universal literacy to Sierra Leone?"
Easy, spend more resources into education.
But where and how you generate those resources is the million dollar question to answer. I would like to recommend all foreign companies that do business in Sierra Leone, especially those involved with our natural resources, reinvest their profits in Sierra Leone and give priority to education.
But come to think of it, how many legitimate "COMPANIES" really do business these days when it comes to our natural resources?
Other forumites like Moh'J, Allie Formeh Kamara, etc, may have better solutions.
Subject: Re: MARGAI WAS SUPERB..IF HE CAMPAIGNS LIKE THIS, MASIBO
From: Pa javombo
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Date Posted: 17:11:30 11/07/06 ()
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KL,
I agree with you on this. But Charles was speaking to people to whom issues matter.
Subject: Re: MARGAI WAS SUPERB..IF HE CAMPAIGNS LIKE THIS, MASIBO
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 19:10:26 11/07/06 ()
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Well Pa J nor to de word dat?
Subject: Re: MARGAI WAS SUPERB..IF HE CAMPAIGNS LIKE THIS, MASIBO
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 18:12:25 11/07/06 ()
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Morethan than the better people in the country.What can runaway sierra leoneans in USA do for PMDC to win? Charles said nothing better for sierra leone than the APC and SLPP.
Subject: Re: MARGAI WAS SUPERB..IF HE CAMPAIGNS LIKE THIS, MASIBO
From: Pa Javombo
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Date Posted: 00:50:39 11/08/06 ()
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Since it is these runaways the non runaways depend on for their survival, the runaways will tell them who to vote for. And they better listen.
Subject: Re: MARGAI WAS SUPERB..IF HE CAMPAIGNS LIKE THIS, MASIBO
From: CADMUS
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Date Posted: 13:56:07 11/07/06 ()
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SLPP will fight on its records, Speaking Latin(a dead language) to poor Sierra leones will not help. it is just a show off.All lawyers can use most of those latin words.so what?
What Sa lone needs is Peace,Stabilty and Continued Democracy together with Progress, promotion of the chancesfor the youth and equal opprtunity for women.Exertly what the SLPP is doing.
You have today the kind of freedom in Sa Lone which is the envy of even the developed western world.
Newspapers are free, the judges are independent, there are no political prisoners at Pademba Road.
This is the way forward my Country folks.... More of the Same.Berewa will do it.
PMDC will tell you about the corrupt Berewa and so on...But inspite of repeated challanges on this and other places, no one has ever produced the evidence to support.We will therefore talk about wahat is real, and that Sa Lone is today a free and democratic country where prople do what they want, (within the Law)
So my folks as you hear what Ngo Charles has to say,just ask your self, had he won the leadership of SLPP, would he be saying the same today.What has changed in the party he was so aggresively fighting to lead only a few months ago?
Subject: Re: MARGAI WAS SUPERB..IF HE CAMPAIGNS LIKE THIS, MASIBO
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 17:14:37 11/07/06 ()
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Greetings my brothers and sisters. The leaders of S.L.P.P., A.P.C. and P.M.D.C. came to the Diaspora to familiarize themseslves with their compatriots vise-vasa, a sensitization effort that I am highly impressed with. The reason for this satisfaction is based solely on the very remarkable step Sierra Leone and her leaders are taking to breach the gap, a vacuum of communication and interaction that had been created for many many years. This is a golden sign that our nation is ready for true democracy.
However, in their bid to gain leadership for our beloved country and in an effort to letting us know the significance of Diasporans in nation building, it is impeccably imperative that we use this golden opportunity to use this renewed acknowledgment to effectively serve our nation. This acknowledgement could not have come out of thin air had we sat dormant and complacent about the way our country is ran. But do we have to run an unfinished marathon? If indeed that is our desire, then our efforts here should be counted doomed strides. As I am fervently convinced that we need more for Sierra Leone, we must take this opportunity to make-known our patriotic interest in the day-to-day, particularly future affairs of Sierra Leone. This patriotic ambition for a better Sierra Leone must be manifested to the leaders and fellow compatriots in manner in which we handle the affairs of the coming 2007 Presidential elections.
However, as of yet, we have busied ourselves on issues quite irrelevant to ascertaining who the suited leader of Sierra Leone should be by firstly, throwing hard questions on the table for aspirants response, in order to unveil their good or bad qualities, and with all the criticisms we make, we are of yet to shed light on malfeasance that any of the three have engaged themselves to enable us understand them better, which in turn will allow us educate those who are back home to make wise choices on, significant issues, partaining to leadership for Sierra Leone that will affect their lives now and in the future.
The Vice President, Hon. Solomon Berewa, interim leader of the S.L.P.P. might be very articulate and might have oratory magnificence that he can employ to captivate our attention to elect him but if it does not match his character or actions viz-a-vis the way he has carried himself with regards to the affairs of the people of Sierra Leone, that is what we will get when elected as President of Sierra Leone: words not action, leading to stagnation iin the socio-political stage of our beautiful Sierra Leone. Poverty, illiteracy and desperation will reign supreme.
Opposition Leader, the Hon. Earnest Bai Koroma might be very articulate and might have oratory magnificence that he can employ to captivate our attention to elect him but if it does not match his character or actions viz-a-vis the way he has carried himself with regards to the affairs of the people of Sierra Leone, that is what we will get when elected as President of Sierra Leone: words not action, leading to stagnation iin the socio-political stage of our beautiful Sierra Leone. Poverty, illiteracy and desperation will reign supreme.
Mr. Charlse Margai, intereme leader of the P.M.D.C. might be very articulate and might have oratory magnificence that he can employ to captivate our attention to elect him but if it does not match his character or actions viz-a-vis the way he has carried himself with regards to the affairs of the people of Sierra Leone, that is what we will get when elected as President of Sierra Leone: words not action, leading to stagnation iin the socio-political stage of our beautiful Sierra Leone. Poverty, illiteracy and desperation will reign supreme.
In whch case we have not served our people but have been moused and poised to an undelineated safari. We then have no one to blame, our children would have no one to blame, the future would have no one to blame but us. This is why we must not support blindly and we must not allow our passions and sentiments to blur our vission for Sierra Leone, her future and the future of the children. To avoid tomorrows complaints about bad governance, we must not side-step the responsibilities of today. Remember, it is our country, we need a new direction and new dynamism. Why not take the necessary steps today by unearthing any little secretes that might blow-up tomorrow to blur a prosperous future for Sierra Leone. Now is the time to know our future leaders' temperaments: a quality for good leadership. Now is the time to see who stands for Justice, who stood for equitable justice as that is how we will be certain justice will be served equitably in our beloved country.
Welcome to the U.S. of A. Mr. Margai.
May God bless us all
Subject: THE TRUTH ABOUT THE MISNAMED REBEL WAR IN SIERRA LEONE
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 07:59:56 11/07/06 ()
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[The following published article about the root cause of the misnamed rebel war in SL between 1991 and 2002, is presented here, courtesy of SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, as a contribution to the contemporary debate into the origin of the most bestial interlude in SL's history precipitated by the murderous perpetrators collectively known as the Revolutionary United Front, (RUF)].
--- In SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, MohmJ@... wrote on November 7, 2006:
>
> COMMENTARIES
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> The Truth That the TRC Failed to Uncover in Sierra Leone
>
> By Mohamed A. Jalloh-Maryland, USA
> Oct 31, 2005, 13:45
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> It is a sad irony that while the final report of the Sierra Leone Truth and Reconciliation Commission is of tremendous historical importance because it contains perhaps the most comprehensive eyewitness record of the bestial interlude in Sierra Leone's history that has been misnamed, in multiple error, a civil war, unfortunately, it woefully failed to identify the most important truth about that decade-long blight on our country's history.
>
> To be sure, the authors and other governmental and non-governmental entities that contributed to the publication of the SLTRC's final report deserve commendation for their literally massive efforts. However, the nation's second greatest debt of gratitude is owed to those victims who braved the risks attendant upon revisiting their trauma by providing testimony to the commission. Fittingly, the greatest debt of all is owed to our innocent countrymen, countrywomen, and others who paid the ultimate price during the largest, longest, and least civil, criminal enterprise in the history of SL.
>
> As one would expect, the commission's report will be greeted with exceptions as to its analysis, particularly its interpretation of the historical events it comprehensively documents. This is to be wholly expected. Nonetheless, it does not diminish the importance of the work that went into the production of the report; nor, in my humble opinion, does it necessarily suggest an ulterior motive among the commission's members. Undoubtedly, it is in the nature of the human being — and a testament to the wonderful powers of our creator — that people may see the same thing and come to different conclusions about the nature of what they have observed. Hopefully, in the process of reconciling the disparate views of the object observed, its true nature would become apparent to all.
>It is in that spirit that I wish to take exception to the commission's conclusion that the 10-year assault on innocent Sierra Leoneans precipitated by the Revolutionary United Front invasion of SL in 1991 resulted from an increasing conviction by Sierra Leoneans that violence was the only way to change the oppressive and corrupt APC government of SL. Whereas some Sierra Leoneans may have felt that way — in the case of RUF leader, Foday Sankoh, for demonstrably selfish reasons — I believe that the vast majority of Sierra Leoneans were content to continue a long-standing Sierra Leonean tradition that had kept our country free of local war for almost a hundred years. As even the most casual observer knows, that tradition consists of Sierra Leoneans' blissful belief in muddling along and continuing to place their faith in God as the means for changing their admittedly deteriorating situation in life. This is evident in that familiar and ubiquitous Sierra Leonean response to
virtually every calamity, be it personal or national —"How for do? God dae!"
>
> There is far more persuasive evidence that the massive pillage and rampage inflicted upon SL during the 10-year RUF invasion of SL was the brainchild of a largely criminal foreign enterprise that relied for its execution on a minuscule minority of Sierra Leoneans, aided by a significant number of foreign foot soldiers and commanders.
>
> As the United Nations' Special Court in SL`s ndictment makes plain, it is now well established that the Liberian criminal, Charles Taylor, was the immediate sponsor of the prolonged bestial assault on hundreds of thousands of innocent Sierra Leoneans during the RUF invasion of SL. Significantly, Taylor is neither Sierra Leonean, nor did he represent the majority of Sierra Leoneans who were stoically
suffering under the dictatorial yoke of SL president Joseph Momoh.
>
> On the contrary, Taylor was part of a loosely aligned cabal of international pariahs, each with purely selfish motives, but who were largely united in their vision that SL — blessed with abundant diamonds and gold and cursed with a weak political leadership that was alienated from the majority of its subjects, not to mention a politicized and demoralized army — was an easy mark for their criminal activities. That immoral cabal included Burkina Faso's dictator, Blaise Campaore, Ivory Coast's long-standing dictator,
Felix Houphouet-Boigny, and Libyan strongman, Moamar Ghaddafi, among others. It was this group of foreigners who aided and abetted the fugitive Liberian, Charles Taylor, in his purely selfish quest to revenge himself on SL president Momoh for the latter's role in hosting ECOMOG, the West African peacekeeping force that initially thwarted Taylor's naked power grab in Liberia in 1989-90. In addition, Taylor wanted to help his Libyan military training camp
alumnus, Sierra Leonean RUF leader, Foday Sankoh, replicate the bonanza of stolen diamonds, gold and other ill-begotten gains that Taylor had reportedly acquired in neighboring Liberia through his 1989 invasion of Liberia from a conspiring Ivory Coast. It is now known that these international pariahs recruited a relatively small number of Sierra Leoneans and a significant number of foreigners to inflict mayhem on hundreds of thousands of innocent Sierra Leonean children, women and men. However, this does not make their murderous ten-year long assault a product of Sierra Leoneans' increasing conviction that "the structures of governance could only be changed through violence," as the SLTRC claims in palpable error.
>
> Such a conclusion, while admittedly romantic and widely held among mostly uninformed western commentators and self-described students of the RUF, clashes with historical reality. It is disheartening, therefore, that our own SLTRC, given its mission of truth, would succumb to such wishful thinking. That the SLTRC would then incorporate such a myth in its historically significant report is as unfortunate as it is avoidable. The sad truth is that there is an alternative conclusion that would have accorded with historical facts. It also would have significantly served the commission's mission of truth. Clearly, therefore, the surprising failure of the commission to reach it fatally marred its mission. That crucial conclusion is that the RUF pillage and rampage in SL from 1991 to 2001 was neither civil, nor was it a war in the traditional sense. It was, in the main, a cynical and brutal assault on innocent and helpless Sierra Leoneans by a well-financed international gang of criminals who, for purely selfish reasons, committed themselves to plundering Sierra Leone's poorly protected resources by widely terrorizing its populace.
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Subject: SA LEONE IS THE 7TH MOST CORRUPT COUNTRY. BEREWA EXPLAIN.
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 01:46:27 11/07/06 ()
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Sierra Leone is 7th most corrupt country in Africa
Posted by on Nov 7, 2006, 22:25
Haiti has been ranked as the most corrupt country in the World by Transparency International (TI), followed by Burma and Iraq.The Berlin-based anti-corruption watchdog said that for the first time,Haiti topped the table.Sierra Leone's next door neighbour Guinea ranked as the most corrupt country in Africa followed by Sudan,Democratic Republic of Congo,Chad,Equatorial Guinea,Côte d´Ivoire and then Sierra Leone in seventh place.Nigeria is eight followed by Kenya and Congo Republic in tenth position.
The 2006 Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI), launched Monday 6th November by Transparency International (TI), points to a strong correlation between corruption and poverty, with a concentration of impoverished states at the bottom of the ranking.“Corruption traps millions in poverty,?said Transparency International Chair Huguette Labelle. “Despite a decade of progress in establishing anti-corruption laws and regulations, the results indicate that much remains to be done before we see meaningful improvements in the lives of the world’s poorest citizens.?
The 2006 Corruption Perceptions Index is a composite index that draws on multiple expert opinion surveys that poll perceptions of public sector corruption in 163 countries around the world, the greatest scope of any CPI to date. It scores countries on a scale from zero to ten, with zero indicating high levels of perceived corruption and ten indicating low levels of perceived corruption.
A strong correlation between corruption and poverty is evident in the results of the CPI 2006. Almost three-quarters of the countries in the CPI score below five (including all low-income countries and all but two African states) indicating that most countries in the world face serious perceived levels of domestic corruption. Seventy-one countries - nearly half - score below three, indicating that corruption is perceived as rampant.Haiti has the lowest score at 1.8; Guinea, Iraq and Myanmar share the penultimate slot, each with a score of 1.9. Finland, Iceland and New Zealand share the top score of 9.6.
On 7 December, TI will launch its 2006 Global Corruption Barometer which looks at public perceptions of the level of corruption in major institutions such as the courts, parliament and the police. The Barometer is published in anticipation of International Anti-Corruption Day, 9 December 2006.
Subject: Re: SA LEONE IS THE 7TH MOST CORRUPT COUNTRY. BEREWA EXPLAIN.
From: Johnn Conte
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Date Posted: 10:42:23 11/07/06 ()
Email Address: speakthetruth@aol.com
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Where did you get the information from?
Check this site.
http://www.transparency.org/news_room/latest_news/press_releases/2006/en_2006_11_06_cpi_2006
Subject: PMDC IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND GOD'S BLESSING
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 22:57:34 11/06/06 ()
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EXTRACT FROM: SIERRA LEONE POLITICS : WHERE I STAND : BY RAYMOND BAMIDELE THOMPSON
"However, as the SLPP is famous for doing during elections whether at the national, local or even intra party, it had a fraudulent convention in 2005. Why a convention so early when the election was two years away is anybody's guess. I ascribe it to divine intervention. God knows that these people do not mean well for Sierra Leone and as such confused them to hold an early convention. God is still confusing them at every turn of the way, hence everytime when Berewa opens his mouth, he puts his foot in it.
At the convention in Makeni, with Tejan Kabbah and Solomon Berewa sitting right infront of the ballot boxes where the delegates had to vote, what could be more intimdating to the poor delegates, Solomon Berewa was declared the winner of the leadership of the SLPP and the presidential candidate for 2007. There are even reports from relable sources that the delegates were bribed and had to swear allegiance to Berewa while feasting on raw meat.
Based on the unfairness in the conduct of the elections during the convention, Charles Francis Margai, who was one of the candidates for the leadership of the SLPP and his supporters decided to take a tour of Sierra Leone to get a sense of what the people wanted him to do. Should he stay within the SLPP or form a new party? The people overwhemingly determined that breaking away from the SLPP was the best line of action and consequently they gave him their blessings. There are recorded video memorialising these tours and are available for your viewing by contacting me."
YOU CAN READ THE WHOLE STORY FROM:
http://www.cocorioko.net/
Subject: Re: PMDC IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND GOD'S BLESSING
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
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Date Posted: 08:06:09 11/07/06 ()
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ALBERT,This the most interesting thing I have heard from you.Mr.Raymond Bamidele Thompson(popularly known as Bami Thompson)of Kissy fame accusing the SLPP or any body else of acts of dishonesty.To avoid a bitter argument with you,I will keep quiet for now and most respectfully ask you to demand genuine answers to the following questions from BAMI THOMPSON(himself).
(1)How did he come to this country(the USA)?
For your information,his father was the customs chief in Sierra Leone when he(Bami)came to USA.
(2)Why his law license was revoked by the state of
Maryland? And
(3)Why he left the UNPP political party?
Albert,please,be bold and courageous enough to come back to this forum with the answers to these questions.If the answers you will get from "Bami" are not correct, I you tell this forum the correct things about Mr.Bami Thompson.I assure this group that after getting the whole truth,you will see that "Bamie" does not have the moral authority to talk about corrupt people.
Once again I appeal to all my brothers and sisters in this forum not to allow their love for their political parties to be above their love for Sierra Leone.I also appeal to all of us not to allow our sentiments to surpass our reasoning abilities.
YOU CAN NOT GIVE WHAT YOU DONT HAVE.
Subject: Re: PMDC IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND GOD'S BLESSING
From: Pa javombo
To: All
Date Posted: 11:36:07 11/07/06 ()
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Saidu,
Bamidele Thompson will be in Atlanta this week.
If you really want to have answers to these questions
you'll have the opprtunity to ask him.
Saidu, before jumping ship to the SLPP you told the Vice Prtesident in Atlanta that they as a government were running a "Failed State". The V.P. got angry at you for saying that. Now has Sierra Leone become a succesful state?
since September when you said that that you now think the VP is the man to save Sierra Leone or you joined the VP's bandwagon to pacify him so that he could no longer be angry with you.
With your SLPP "Mago Mago" these days the latter is true.
Subject: Re: PMDC IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND GOD'S BLESSING
From: NEW BRUNSWICK
To: All
Date Posted: 11:18:18 11/07/06 ()
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SAIDU you do not have any moral authority to question the morality of others or make any assessment of their corruption index. You want to ask Bami how he came to the USA? How did you come to the USA? Have you done right by those who brought you here? What does the fact that his father was chief of customs, have to do with the fact that he came to the USA. You better stop defaming people on this site enough is enough. Why did your uncle Brima stop working at the Bank?
You want to question why Bami was disbarred? At least disbarred or not he was able to become a LAWYER. What are you doing with your life? Talking as usual and fleecing women who are vulnerable of their momnies. Everytime I come to this site and see you talking your RUBBISH it makes me want to VOMIT.
You come from a very crooked and immoral family. Your mother had sexual relations with Pa Komeh while pa Komeh was MARRIED, and gave birth to your brother Peter Komeh. And you want to talk about morality and corruption? You better go to hell you damn thief. Remember when Thaimu was alive and he was minister of finance, tell us how much money you made off bribes from the lebanese and others who came in to see the honorable minister. You are NOTHING saidu but a brief case carrying crook and even the brief case is not yours. These are all facts that are in the public Domaine. Please spare us your usual crap and go back to doing what you have always done which is NOTHING.
Subject: Re: PMDC IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND GOD'S BLESSING
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 08:36:47 11/07/06 ()
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My brother, I do not have the answers to your questions nor do I have any means of getting it from Mr. Thompson. The ball is in your court.
Take care.
Subject: Re: PMDC IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND GOD'S BLESSING
From: APC Man
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Date Posted: 01:58:16 11/07/06 ()
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Which people?
It looks more like the ambition of one man. This man thinks that support from a couple of angry fanatics will put him over the top. The worst part is that most of these fanatics live abroad and are not registered voters in Sa. Lone.
Come July 2007, when this man would have lost woefully, he will blame the Cotton Tree!!!!
APC Nor dae lie
APC nor dae tiff
APC for you en for me.
Subject: Re: PMDC IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND GOD'S BLESSING
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 04:18:54 11/07/06 ()
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"The worst part is that most of these fanatics live abroad and are not registered voters in Sa. Lone."
Yes because the majority can make informed and fair judgments without any strings attached. People from the North to South, East to West.
A nor get for go na any body e office for wok or "put for me".
Subject: Re: PMDC IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND GOD'S BLESSING
From: Talking Points for Moinina
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Date Posted: 09:06:02 11/07/06 ()
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Mr. Margai failed woefully yesterday on the issue of Ethics . I think the word NEPOTISM is not in his political dictionary . At question time ,. Mr Alex Mansary ., CEO of Cocorioko asked Mr. Margai about a contract he gave to his wife and other relatives while he was Minister of Interior and Rural Development . Mr. Margai without thinking the implication of that question and the intention of the questioner , with some sort of arrogance , he flipped out that " the constitution did not say that if you are a Government Minister or Government Officer your wife or relative should not be given a contract from your office " . You can see the pomposity in his eyes and body works. He did not even think that was a crime . And here was a man talking about making the eradication of curruption a priority when he shall have been president of Sierra Leone !
Subject: Re: PMDC IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND GOD'S BLESSING
From: Pa javombo
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Date Posted: 11:27:05 11/07/06 ()
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It is only nepotism when the terms of contract is not delivered. Will it not be better to err on the side of nepotism knowing that the person will deliver than giving someonelese who will not deliver and nothing comes out of it?
We have seen it happen in Sierra leone. E.G. Paramount chiefs' homes construction. The contract was awarded to an SLPP insider and nothing has been done. Those that were said to have been built were nothing but "baffas" and they started leaking before the chiefs could enter them.
You will agree that if CFM's wife did not deliver things would have not been the way they are now.
Was it on wise on the part of president Kabbah to announce the date of elections without consulting the stake holders? Yes. he was right because the constittution did not require him to. Why will it be an issue for Charles to give contract to people he trust and can perform when the constituion does not prevent him from doing so?
Subject: Re: PMDC IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND GOD'S BLESSING
From: M. Alieu Iscandari
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Date Posted: 03:08:06 11/08/06 ()
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"It is only nepotism when the terms of contract is not delivered"
Nfa Javombo my dear older brother, I disagree with you on the above quote and to me you are sounding like the normal SLPP kunu munu tonto's. As a point of reference, I have pasted the meaning of nepotism from Dictionary.com for you. Please review your post in light of the acceptable definition of NEPOTISM.
nep¡Eo¡Etism /ˈnɛpəˌtɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[nep-uh-tiz-uhm]
¡Vnoun patronage bestowed or favoritism shown on the basis of family relationship, as in business and politics: She was accused of nepotism when she made her nephew an officer of the firm.
What we must avoid this election season is to allow our intelligent selves to become members of the excuse batallion. If Charles had been around seasoned handlers, his answer to the question should have been like this.
Charles Margai's proposed answer:
"I understand why you would consider it nepotism because it was a contract awarded to my dear wife Vivat, by my ministry when I was the minister in charge. In retrospect the perception of wrong or corrupt acts, is important to me and the future Sierra Leone I intend to lead. It was however not an unlawful act according to the laws of sierra leone, at the time I gave the contract to my wife. However I must say with all humility that although she fully performed all the terms of the contract, I can clearly understand the gravamen of your question and I appreciate you bringing it up. I would make sure that I incorporate into the PMDC's manifesto and seek future legislation that will prohibit Ministers from awarding contracts to family members.
First, we must learn not to give excuses for our leaders even the ones that we support. Your post above belies the truth that you have spoken so many times on this forum which is the need for change in the way we do things.My two penny worth
Stay Blessed.
[Origin: 1655¡V65; < It nepotismo. See nephew, -ism]
Subject: Re: PMDC IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND GOD'S BLESSING
From: KABS KANU
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Date Posted: 09:32:04 11/07/06 ()
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But I think he said certain things before that, didn't he ? He said that everything about the contract was a big lie and knowing Kabbah for being a vindictive man , if it had been true, he should have been at Pademba Road by now. He said an investigation was conducted and the allegations were found to have been false. It was then that he said he did not see anything wrong in one's wife being given a contract AS LONG AS SHE DELIVERED. HE BRAGGED THAT HIS WIFE FULFILLED THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACTS AND SHE DELIVERED.
Subject: Re: PMDC IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND GOD'S BLESSING
From: Talking Points
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Date Posted: 11:04:40 11/07/06 ()
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You dont see anything wrong with that Kabbs? I mean the perception that a government contract being awarded by a certain minister goes to his wife smells of corruption here. Also how can he say it is a lie but then BRAGG that his wife delivered. Think before you respond Kabbs
Subject: Re: PMDC IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND GOD'S BLESSING
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 18:17:44 11/07/06 ()
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God bless you talking point.
Subject: Re: PMDC IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND GOD'S BLESSING
From: KABBS KANU
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Date Posted: 12:10:06 11/07/06 ()
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I am not making a value-judgement. I am only setting the records straight about how he responded to the question.
Subject: Re: PMDC IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND GOD'S BLESSING
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 18:15:13 11/07/06 ()
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Kabbs thanks we know were you are even before this.
Subject: WHAT ABOUT SIR SIAKA STEVENS?
From: Almamy Seray-Wurie
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Date Posted: 18:43:54 11/06/06 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
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What would have made Pa Siaka better?
www.siakastevens.org
Subject: Re: WHAT ABOUT SIR SIAKA STEVENS?
From: SP
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Date Posted: 06:43:06 11/08/06 ()
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WHO CARES.
Subject: Re: WHAT ABOUT SIR SIAKA STEVENS?
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 18:43:02 11/08/06 ()
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I do and so do a lot of others. You have a right not to care. Its our history
Subject: NOTICE OF PENDING CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT
From: M. Alieu iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 18:18:36 11/06/06 ()
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Subject: Maybe a sinner, but is he a perpetrator or a victim?
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 07:08:30 11/06/06 ()
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Forumites, please read this and offer your honest opinion. For me, I am probably more liberal than I ever thought possble.
Subject: HONESTY
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 07:03:49 11/06/06 ()
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To what extent is the lack of HONESTY in our business and private affairs a negative in our ability to progress as a nation? To what extent is this phenomena ingrained in our cultural values? What can we do to change that attitude? Can that attitude be remedied with laws which are enforced intoto? Whats your take and what remedies do you propose?
Subject: Re: HONESTY
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 07:38:09 11/06/06 ()
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"To what extent is the lack of HONESTY in our business and private affairs a negative in our ability to progress as a nation?"
To a point where no political "leader", not even a political party, is able to break the code of extreme povery in Salone.
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To what extent is this phenomena ingrained in our cultural values?
To the extent where we match all other cultural values.
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What can we do to change that attitude?
Loosse de "cow" oosai yu tie am en teach am how for grow ihm yone grass. --------------------------------------------------
Whats your take and what remedies do you propose?
Bra, ah tell yu say loosse de "cow" oosai yu tie am en teach am how for grow ihm yone grass.
Subject: Re: HONESTY
From: shykh
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Date Posted: 09:04:34 11/06/06 ()
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To the extent that we can stop the name calling and take responsibility.
To the extend that we realized the country is above of the region, the district,the chifdom, the tribe and the family.
To the extend that I and you can say it as it is...not as it can fit our mision...
Subject: Margai Tour Gathers Momentum
From: Albert Moinina Positive Man Don Cam
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Date Posted: 21:35:11 11/05/06 ()
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Margai Tour Gathers Momentum
- Sunday 5 November 2006.
By Our Correspondent
The Trans-Atlantic Tour for “Positive Change” delegation headed by Charles Margai traverses the Delaware Valley with unfaltering vision to bring about positive change to Sierra Leone. Charles Margai(photo) has so far reassured his audiences with unwavering messages of his Positive Change vision.
In what some political pundits describe as the most organized, coordinated and well-attended political gathering of Sierra Leoneans in the Delaware Valley [the dinner and banquet organized in Philadelphia] attracted people from all political interest groups amongst Sierra Leoneans and non-Sierra Leoneans.
With a capacity of 250 seats, the hotel ballroom was already packed at 11: pm. If there was any scintilla of doubt on the minds of any undecided Sierra Leonean or skeptics, it was definitely cleared last night by Margai “Positive Change Message.”
Attired in white three-piece coat, laced with a bow tie and trimmings of PMDC orange paraphernalia, Charles Margai looked Presidential, al3rt, brilliant, and unquestionably confident.
Charles Margai stood out as a sore thumb with a major policy speech that could define the future of the PMDC and Sierra Leone. Believing in the fact that political projections and timeframes are sometimes overtly overambitious, vis-à-vis performance, Charles Margai made reasonable projections for certain important benchmarks to be achieved within his first 100 days in power.
The PMDC leader catalogued his goals into short term, medium term and long term. Probably influenced by his legal bent and coupled with the fact that many Sierra Leoneans are realizing that the SLPP is an effete political group, Margai wasted no time in stating that his first goal is to restructure, re- establish, maintain and sustain law and order in the Sierra Leonean society, through the rule of law. He observed that the survival of the state is contingent on the rule of law and an independent judiciary, the converse of which is anarchy.
Energy and power is also a priority on the list of benchmarks. Charles Margai believes that industrialization is impossible without a sustainable and reliable energy network to support production, distribution and exchange. In this direction, Charles hopes to harness Sierra Leone’s resources making sure that the supply of energy is constant within the length and breadth of Sierra Leone. He hopes to move Sierra Leone from the current state of darkness into an illustrious and proud nation. The knock-on effect of this reliable energy network is to bolster production, employment, income, favorable balance of trade and the propensity on the part of Sierra Leoneans to save. Also included in the energy goal is the question of water.
Amidst deafening applause, Charles Margai reassured the audience that his Presidency would be defined by his relentless efforts to ensure that there is safe drinking water in every corner of Sierra Leone. He reflected on the failure of the current government to maintain water supply for even the Western area when Guma Valley dried up a few months ago.
Under his food security goals, the PMDC leader gave a synopsis of his vision for an improved lifestyle for Sierra Leoneans as espoused in Article 25 of United Nations universal declaration of human rights:
“Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and his family, including food, clothing, and housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood.”
In his foresight of attaining this goal, Charles Margai patiently and cautiously delved into the land tenure system in Sierra Leone. He contends that the current land tenure system in the Provincial areas of Sierra Leone is anachronistic. To encourage investors into the country and raise the confidence level of investors, Margai stated that the land tenure system should be reviewed taking cognizance of the fact that foreign direct investment is a plus for the economy, in line with emerging trends in the global economy. While he intends to review the current land tenure system, he cautioned that the interests and aspirations of all parties concerned would be fully recognized as the issue is very sensitive.
Other priority social issues that Margai intends to address when he assumes the Presidency is health, sanitation and education. Health and education policy will be overhauled, making sure that there is equality and fairness in the access to quality health care and education.
He factored the current youth crisis in Sierra Leone to the paucity of social amenities and the total lack of hope for alternative, productive lifestyles.
The PMDC, the leader echoed, will bring hope to disaffected Sierra Leoneans encompassing all the demographics and representing the interests of every Sierra Leonean, devoid of religious, tribal, or regional considerations.
Very much on top of the situation, the PMDC leader brilliantly answered all the questions posed by Sierra Leoneans within and without the PMDC. Invigorated by the leader’s speech and entertained with patriotic Sierra Leonean music, the ballroom remained buoyant and lively as the occasion ended.
Testimonies were also given by many independent observers later to pledge their loyalty and support for the PMDC. To state that the fundraising dinner and banquet in Philadelphia was a success, is a redundant reality.
http://www.thepatrioticvanguard.com/article.php3?id_article=870
Subject: Re: Margai Tour Gathers Momentum
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 22:12:54 11/05/06 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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Are you positive to boast that everybody going there are PMDC? I think you all of that party are really newcommers to the game.Becareful and dont jump morethan you can as you will crash.
Subject: PMDC SCORES BIG IN NEW JERSEY
From: COCORIOKO WEBSITE
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Date Posted: 20:30:43 11/04/06 ()
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PMDC SCORES BIG IN NEW JERSEY AS CHARLES MARGAI AND ENTOURAGE BAGS A LARGE QUANTITY OF SCHOOL MATERIALS .
The leader of the PMDC, Charles Francis Margai and his entourage arrived in the Delaware valley on Thursday November 2nd 2006 after touching down at the Dulles International Airport in Washington, earlier on Thursday, amidst thunderous applause from supporters. The leader’s reception was graced with pomp and ceremony by tens of PMDC stalwarts from the Washington metropolitan area who accompanied the delegation to Philadelphia for hotel check in, followed by a dinner in Delaware, at the reclusive bungalow of Mr. Mohamed Varfie Sheriff, PMDC interim publicity secretary USA. With plenty of palatable food and drinks, the dinner was punctuated by briefings from Sierra Leone on the statusquo of the PMDC. The leader, in his usual mesmeric speech tone, elaborated with alacrity and eloquence, the positive mood of the delegation and the aspirations for the trip.
The delegation was officially welcomed to the United States by the selfless and unassuming chairman of the PMDC USA, Dr. Baimba Kamara. In his speech to the delegation, Dr Kamara vividly elucidated the progress the PMDC has made in the USA since it was established. He verbalized that the PMDC is the only political party in the USA to have a wider representation that extends from the East coast to the West coast and the South, accounting for twelve fully developed, organized and well functioning chapters. Impressed by the progress and acceptance of his supporters, the PMDC strong man-Charles Margai, flanked by his able Secretary General Ansu Lansana, his wife Mrs. Vivat Margai, the legal adviser Momoh Fofanah , the Chairman Siddique Janneh, Rebecca Conteh, Rev. Momoh Foh, and PMDC members in the United States, the leader was explicitly on point. He reiterated the need for continuous hard work and warned against complacency regardless of the fact that the PMDC is in strong position to form the next government come 2007. Important speeches were also made by the Vice Chairman of PMDC/USA Steven Gaojia, the Secretary General, Tejan Savage and the ubiquitous Dauda Tombo Bangura.There was a toast in honor of the delegation and the dinner continued into the late hours of the night, before the delegation members retired to their various hotels in Philadelphia
Concerned with the interest of Sierra Leoneans everywhere, and in the spirit of religious tolerance, Charles Margai and his entourage attended Friday prayers at the Sierra Leonean mosque in South west Philadelphia, where he was able to meet a cross section of the Sierra Leonean Muslim community in Philadelphia. The biggest boost to the PMDC delegation for Friday was actualized in Swedesboro New Jersey. A prominent and successful Sierra Leonean family Morie and Rugiatu Mussaffa personally donated a very large quantity of school furniture, including desks, chairs and other accessories valued at six hundred million Leones ($ 200,000). The donations were followed by a lavish dinner at the residence of the Mussaffas in New Jersey, where the leader got the real feel of his support base in the USA. At around 10: pm a national teleconference organized by the PMDC USA linked every chapter to the delegation. Members had the opportunity to interact via phone and pose questions to the leader. The airwave was so jam-packed with jubilant supporters and enthusiasts that the conference had to be adjourned. The PMDC delegation also met with the renowned electoral guru in the United Sates, Reverend DeForest Blake Soaries, Jr., an African America Baptist Minister, politician, author and public advocate, from Franklin Park, New Jersey. He was formerly the Chairman of the federal Election Assistance Commission, and the senior pastor of First Baptist Church of Lincoln Gardens in Somerset, New Jersey. The presence of the PMDC leader in the Delaware valley has led to an unprecedented increase in the number of people rushing to register with the PMDC. Most people interviewed at registration, stated generally that they were very impressed by the character of Mr. Charles Margai embodied in such attributes as his honesty, openness, personality, leadership qualities, tolerance, respect and a thorough understanding of the problems of Sierra Leone and the people of Sierra Leone.
By Mohamed Sesay/ Publicity secretary PA/Delaware chapter
Subject: Re: PMDC SCORES BIG IN NEW JERSEY
From: ok dok
To: All
Date Posted: 21:16:25 11/04/06 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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Why not send all this amount back home for people to survive> Does these visits by part leaders means winning of election?Next visit will be the UNPP leader followed PDP. sIERRA leone is still behind in politics.
God help the people and country.
Subject: COURAGE
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 15:20:01 11/04/06 ()
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Courage, also known as fortitude, is the ability to confront fear, pain, danger, uncertainty or intimidation. It can be divided into "physical courage" -- in face of physical pain, hardship, and threat of death -- and "moral courage" -- in the face of shame, scandal, and discouragement.
Subject: Obituary
From: Florence Kroma
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Date Posted: 12:50:13 11/04/06 ()
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The death is announced of Kallilu Jabbie on Tuesday of a heart attack at his Washington D.C.
Our sincere condolences go to the Jabbie, Bah, Barrie and Jalloh in Freetown and the disapora.
/From the Kroma and E.T Kamara family
Subject: Re: Obituary
From: Pa Javombo
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Date Posted: 00:55:30 11/08/06 ()
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May His Soul Rest In Perfect Peace.
Subject: TO Administrator, the True CADMUS and All Forum Visitors.
From: Musa Kal
To: All
Date Posted: 12:40:58 11/04/06 ()
Email Address: muskalawa@yahoo.com
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To All Forum Visitors:
ÞÞPosted by CADMUS [ at 82.198.250.66] on November 03, 2006 at 10:08:35:
In Reply to: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER posted by SLPP DIEHARD on November 03, 2006 at 07:56:18:
ÞÞPosted by CADMUS [ at 82.198.250.74] on November 04, 2006 at 10:40:18:
In Reply to: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER posted by M. Alieu Iscandari Esq on November 03, 2006 at 11:27:49:
ßß: Posted by Musa's Mum [user-0cdfqui.cable.mindspring.com at 24.215.235.210] on November 03, 2006 at 15:41:03:
In Reply to: Re: RE: Independent politicians/ TO CADMUS.......... posted by Musa Kal on November 03, 2006 at 15:21:12:
ßß: Pay attention to the above arrows, the third that point downward is quite different.
ÞÞ I compare the IEP address and came to a realization that indeed someone has continuously try to destroy a well meaning Sierra Leonean (Mr. CADMUS) good image. They continuously use his name to SWEAR on peoples respectable families especially by referring to their MOM.
Mr. CADMUS, I MUSA KAL. Deeply regret the misunderstanding that took place. If I haven’t had resulted in digging the truth, I would have never realize that the person posting this curse words was not you.
Again my deepest regret.
I suggest you should take the lead in exposing this person’s true character to the ADMINISTRATOR for appropriate penalties……LONTA.
Subject: Re: TO Administrator, the True CADMUS and All Forum Visitors.
From: FORREST GUMP
To: All
Date Posted: 06:39:00 11/06/06 ()
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My friend. I have pointed this so many times on this forum that I have even named two people who I think are responsible. The conclusion is I think the Administrator or someone controlling the forum are responsible they are even doing it to JEL.
CADMUS reported to the godly REV what someone was using his handle what happened NOTHING. And he is A man of god.
forrest
Subject: Re: TO Administrator, the True CADMUS and All Forum Visitors.
From: CADMUS
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Date Posted: 06:01:13 11/06/06 ()
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MUSA KAL,
Thank God for people like you. This is what sierra leone needs, honest and decent people.
I come on this forum to make points,it may be different from what others think,but I never insult any on.Every one knows my political convictions.
With people like you we can continue discussing matters affecting Sa Lone,from which ever angle we are coming from, what ever colour we are wearing, I believe we all have Sa Lone at heart. Mischief making therefore does not help.
Keep up my good friend, sierra leone is greater than any of us.
Allah's Blessing!
Sa lone will win.
Subject: Re: TO Administrator, the True CADMUS and All Forum Visitors.
From: Waraba
To: All
Date Posted: 17:49:48 11/06/06 ()
Email Address: futatoro@gmail.com
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Message:
Cadmus,
What do you mean by "Everyone knows my political convictions"?
I do not know your political convictions so you see how you deceived the reading public?
Becareful what you say and how you say it.
Subject: Re: TO Administrator, the True CADMUS and All Forum Visitors.
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 06:44:00 11/06/06 ()
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Now dont you owe me an apology for your spurrious claims that I was the person writing as Cadmus?
Stay Blessed
Subject: Re: TO Administrator, the True CADMUS and All Forum Visitors.
From: CADMUS
To: All
Date Posted: 09:13:27 11/06/06 ()
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Alieu
If it pleases my learned friend, I want to take this opportunity to say sorry for anything I said on this forum either expressly or by implication accusing you of using my name.
Let us show the world that we are civilised, and that the most import matter to us all is Sa Lone.political parties or colours must be put aside and put SA Lone first. We can do, I know we all have our heart in the right place.
Subject: Re: TO Administrator, the True CADMUS and All Forum Visitors.
From: M. Alieu iscandari Esq.
To: All
Date Posted: 17:16:42 11/06/06 ()
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One for all, all for one apologies accepted, now we can move on. BTW do really believe that the SLPP would win a fair election in sierra leone given their dismal record and the anti berewah factor?
Subject: Re: TO Administrator, the True CADMUS and All Forum Visitors.
From: FORREST GUMP
To: All
Date Posted: 06:56:36 11/06/06 ()
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NO, Alieu look what is happening to your IP it keeps changing all the time. I still think you are part of the Forum Team
FORREST
Subject: Re: TO Administrator, the True CADMUS and All Forum Visitors.
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 07:10:25 11/06/06 ()
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That was addressed to Cadmus. Thank you
Subject: Re: TO Administrator, the True CADMUS and All Forum Visitors.
From: FORREST GUMP
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Date Posted: 07:16:59 11/06/06 ()
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You know that CADMUS never gets involve in little squabbles like this. as your catch phrase goes ROTFLMMAO.
FORREST
Subject: Hotels and Beaches in Sierra Leone. Life.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 17:45:30 11/03/06 ()
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Ladies and gentlemen, I am honored to president to you, Excelency Dr. Alhaji Ahmed Tejan Kabbah, President of Sierra Leone, West Africa, not Sought Africa because they are two different countries and President Bagbo of the Peoples republic Ivory Coast, also West Africa, not East because they different countries.
I salute you and thank you for looking at the World Map. Thank you!
http://www.statehouse-sl.org/yamm-pics-oct3.html
Picture of the World Map.
Click on Africa; Please!
http://go.hrw.com/atlas/norm_htm/world.htm
Subject: civil society group in Sierra leone is a lame duck!
From: Lion Mountain
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Date Posted: 07:05:25 11/03/06 ()
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Civil society groups among their tall tasks is to make sure that the poor and weak in society are not vulnerable to injustice and marginalization.
Apart from being partisan, civil society groups in Sierra Leone have joined public officials to paralyse life for the poor.
The civil society leadership is quick to jump on individuals who talked about the mass execution of dozens of military Officers Kabbah executed. But, when it comes to the stealing of State funds by Government Officials, as it is in the case of the financial scandal at the Agric. Ministry, the leadersip is silent.
Nor are they weak to travel to Makeni to probe a local Council.Where are we going in Sierra Leone, after years of brutal and painful war.?
Brothers and Sisters, why can't we make our Country good? The problem, everyone wants to be rich at the cost of the poor. We do all we can to cross the sea and when we come, our first priority is to fill our enchantment for material things.
There are some among us, who will go at great length to be tagged with this title, Dr..}and for these people,politics is the next calling.The next is a different story.
Truly,there are few Sierra Leoneans around who will bring chnage in that Country.It is a gigantic challenge to identify them.looking at the Lion Mountain,the vast numebr of people do not accept anyone who is not part of them.
What do I mean?
Frankly speaking,Sierra Leoneans treat each other with disdain and hate.
The civil society groups can be strong vanguard and beacon of hope against corruption and injustice in Sierra Leone, if its leadership exchange positive activism as against loyalty to the status quo!
Subject: Re: civil society group in Sierra leone is a lame duck!
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 20:28:19 11/03/06 ()
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Belive me i would have recommended you as the first to give a best contribution in this forum but immediately i started reading your comment on the AFRC brutal{dogs} that wer killed,i totally clicked off.Where you in frettown when those guys took over?I guess not.Any well meaning country there cried.Can you belive remarkable building like tresery burnt.It was the most disgraceful takeover in history.I am happy you never mentioned your real name to know what name i could see with my naked eye.Were you the runaway military that escaped? You are lucky buddy.
Subject: Re: civil society group in Sierra leone is a lame duck!
From: for ok dok
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Date Posted: 04:11:18 11/04/06 ()
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some of us lost good friends who were murdered by the Berewah/kabba trials. some just because they were members of a government which took over from the slpp. what was the difference between those who supported the afrc and those who supported the nprc?
Subject: Re: civil society group in Sierra leone is a lame duck!
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 05:17:37 11/04/06 ()
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Can you please show me one of your friends that you feel was not part?
Subject: Re: civil society group in Sierra leone is a lame duck!
From: Civic Societies
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Date Posted: 03:10:48 11/04/06 ()
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We are not Lame Duck, and we can move mountains.The only problem we have is,all of us seek jobs with Government of Sierra Leone, hence we do not wish to offend the President.
Subject: WEHN WILL JOHN LEIGH START TO WRITE SENBSIBLY?
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 06:28:17 11/03/06 ()
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John Leigh wrote on November 02, 2006:
"If Mr. Jalloh writes sensibly and answers his own multiple questions instead of seeking answers and confirmations from me, I will respond to him - whether or not I agree with him - in the same way I respond to forumites of respect such as: Messrs. Allie Rainbow, Formeh Kamara, Albert Moinina and Moijue Kaikai, etc."
QUESTION: If "forumites of respect such as: Messrs. Allie Rainbow, Formeh Kamara ..." have recently showed respect to Mr. Jalloh on this forum , does Mr. Leigh's implied opinion that Mr. Jalloh is not a "forumite[] of respect" mean that Mr. Leigh does not know the meaning of the word, respect?
Subject: Re: WEHN WILL JOHN LEIGH START TO WRITE SENBSIBLY?
From: Jalloh leff
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Date Posted: 16:22:12 11/03/06 ()
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Jalloh, I think Mr. Leigh Knows what he is talking about.
It is sensible enough for Mr. Leigh to consider Messrs. Allie Rainbow, Formeh Kamara as respectful and NOT you regardless of what Messrs. Allie Rainbow and Formeh Kamara consider you to be, in this case respectful. It is a matter of personal opinion not about truth or right.
Subject: Re: WEHN WILL JOHN LEIGH START TO WRITE SENBSIBLY?
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 17:35:15 11/03/06 ()
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"It is a matter of personal opinion not about truth or right."
Which, sadly, exposes your unfamiliarity with logic, my friend. Perhaps the following well-known truism will help you bridge the consciousness gap, even if not the bias gap:
"You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts."
That means, in this context, that whereas Leigh is entitled to his inconsequential opinion about whether I am a respected forumite or not, he is not entitled to mangle the rules of logic.
So, when Leigh says that Formeh and Rainbow are respected members of this forum, it follows that their opinions necessarily are also respected on the forum -- otherwise, how could they be respected forumites?
Tellingly, it is a fact that even the mendacious Leigh can not deny, tha both Formeh and Rainbow have clearly expressed their respect for Mohamed Jalloh on this forum. So , whereas Leigh is entitled to his inconsequential opinion about me, he can NOT be heard to simultaneously claim that Formeh and Rainbow are respected, and yet proceed to disrespect them by stating that someone they have said they respect -- Mohamed Jalloh -- is not a "forumite of respect."
In short, Leigh, notwithstanding his grand self-delusions, is not above the rules of logic. So, if Leigh is going to make statements, he should take the time to learn how to make sense before he makes those statements. Otherwise, he will end up doing what he does incessantly -- making statements which make no sense.
Hopefully, the above analysis is helpful in starting you off on the path away from that which the boorish Leigh, sadly, has stubbornly chosen for himself. If, and when, that happens, you would hopefully be confident enough to append your real name to your own writings.
Subject: Re: WEHN WILL JOHN LEIGH START TO WRITE SENBSIBLY?
From: Jalloh leff
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Date Posted: 19:05:41 11/06/06 ()
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Jalloh writes:
"So, when Leigh says that Formeh and Rainbow are respected members of this forum, it follows that their opinions necessarily are also respected on the forum -- otherwise, how could they be respected forumites?"
Jalloh, you are not making any sense my brother. Let go of your ego man.
Subject: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 00:42:17 11/03/06 ()
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"who descended from a failed prime ministership that deposited SLPP in the political wilderness for 30 years"
John you have described the Sir Albert as a failed leadership, in what ways is it so and can you elucidate on that. If you contend that Sir Albert was a failed leader and he was the leader of the SLPP does this mean that you might have inadvertently ADMITTED that the SLPP under Sir Albert in fact was a FAILED political party?
If the SLPP of the 60's failed sierra Leone, and the SLPP of Tejan Kabba has according to you also failed sierra leone, would it be then possible that your present campaign for a continued SLPP leadership is a counterproductive move to the extent that the party that you support has such a history of leadership failure?
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: chakke
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Date Posted: 18:47:15 11/05/06 ()
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chakke
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 00:45:21 11/04/06 ()
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Alieu,
I told you before that John Leigh is slow when it comes to understanding-he is a slow learner. He can't get it fast about the repeated failures of the SLPP.
At least the 'flunky" smart pass dis Leigh fellow.
You heard the cliche" birds of same feather flock together". Berewa is slow(stupid); John is slow. So John's comfort zone is with slow people dem.I think it is better to be a flunky when you are young and smart when you are older. Bra Leigh look lekkeh sey he bin smart we he young but now? tchupeeeeeet.
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 12:54:32 11/03/06 ()
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Dear Al:
The failed prime ministership that condemned SLeone to 30 years without the SLPP and which delivered our people to a one-party tribal state, coup regimes and wars cannot be used to discolor my current efforts aimed at reforming the present SLPP.
Mistakes can be made by any regime, no matter how good-intentioned, smart, honest, reasonable and hardworking that regime’s leaders and workers maybe. So, Sir Albert’s regime is no exception.
Despite his problems, Sir Albert must be given credit and well-deserved recognition for three very good deeds: (i) he protected a genuinely free and responsible press; (ii) he presided over the genuinely free general elections in 1966 in which there was no violence and (iii) his SLPP government built more schools (and TTCS) all over the provinces than the British Colonial Government ever did.
However, the key mistake he made was devastating to our country with lasting consequences. As you know, this failure in leadership led to the splitting of his party because he arrogantly and favoristically insisted on giving the party’s palmtree symbol to his personal friends (i.e. his own equivalent of disbarred lawyers, mundo tombo dumbo munkus and political harlot opportunists) in four constituencies, two each in the South and East, in total disregard of members’ wishes.
Unlike the SLPP’s genuine Democrat-Leader, Sir Milton, Sir Albert acted arrogantly as if he privately owned the party and was his God-given royal, imperial right to lead under his benevolent dictatorship! In my very early experience observing politics in SLeone, the original SLPP was a true national party free of tribalism. Hence its motto: “One Country, One People”.
Under his arrogant-favoritism and so-called benevolent leadership, SLPP became known nationally as a ‘Mende Man Party’. Most Western Area and Northern Province members that Sir Milton had painstakingly coalesced into the SLPP soon abandoned the party.
And many voters in the South and East vigorously opposed him for his arrogance, unwanted “benevolence” and poor, dictatorial leadership and surrounding himself by tribalistic yes-men and opportunists - the tombo-dumbos of yesteryears (i.e. tribalistic junior mendes).
The end result was that voters in the four Southern and Eastern constituencies elected SLPP independents (i.e. genuinely nationalistic Mendes) who then told our then Governor-General - after the 1966 general election in which both APC & SLPP ended up having equal numbers of seats - that they will never vote to install Sir Albert as prime minister.
Of course, the APC-SLPP electoral tie resulted because many Western Area and Northern members and ex-members refused to vote for SLPP under Sir Albert’s parochial leadership. Some instead, voted for the APC.
Whereupon, the G-G offered Siaka Stevens the first chance to form the new government. He succeeded in doing so - and the degradation of SL began shortly thereafter.
But again, let’s face it, Stevens was himself not a complete failure. He did some good things but his mistakes were catastrophic. Hence, our people suffered through a notorious one-party state; the end of the international convertibility of our national currency; chronic international payments imbalance necessitating IMF interventions at his government’s requests; the SLPMB hold-up of cash crop producers, the destruction of our cash crop export markets; the scraping of the railway, the massive spread of grinding poverty; the continuous marginalization of the unconnected; tribalism led by the KDDA Supremes; greedy-selfish-stupid ekutayism; favoritism, nepotism; wars, coups, the war of rape against females; the rise of Charles Taylor, national plunder, the invasion of the Western Area, etc.
It was then left to the SLPP to bring in peace and to begin to rebuild our country, howbeit, too slowly.
But Rome was not built in a day and civilization is a very slow process. Patience and hardwork are badly needed to successfully confront the deep national problem of poverty; and I say with confidence that there is absolutely no reasonable way in which our massive, virtually wall-to-wall poverty can be immediately alleviated, certainly not by one man's dunce manipulation of the exchange value of the LEONE - when numerous other countries are in the same soup.
Hence, splitting the SLPP is an absolute NO-NO in every single area I visited during the 12 or more trips I made to Sierra Leone during the course of the most recent 22 months. And this ‘No-split’ policy is not just advocated in the South and East. I heard the same preference repeated in the old, genuine pro-Sir Milton SLPP heartland constituencies in the North and from SLPP creoles in Western Area villages and in Freetown.
Next, your jumping to erroneously conclude that “the SLPP of Tejan Kabba has according to you (i.e. JL) also failed sierra leone,” is not fair.
As you know, I am not very happy with the overall record of the current SLPP Administration but that does not mean that TK's SLPP Administration has completely (i.e. 100%) failed SLeone.
In truth and in fact, the current SLPP government has done some very good things such as ending the war, peacefully disarming, demobilizing and re-integrating ex-combatants into civilian society and securing large amounts of international aid to upgrade our military and police forces and to help rebuild our country.
Moreover, our press, radio and TV are free but sections of the media are corrupt and of very low gongorlee-wohwoh quality.
Continuing on the positive side, new schools, health clinics, markets, etc. are prominent features in the SLeone landscape.
In fact, one of the most pleasant sights throughout the length and breath of SLeone that I came across during my travels are the ubiquitous large numbers of clean, uniformed schools children with smiling faces and their attentive teachers. These schools, however, need supplies and equipment and teacher salaries and conditions of service need improvements.
Nevertheless, I have publicly criticized (and I went public only because I had been told to ‘shut up’ by an APC transplant into SLPP in Bo at the 2002 ConVention) the current SLPP Administration heavily and persistently on specific issues that need attention or ought to be approached differently and so on.
Of course, I am upset by the extreme poverty of our people, especially seeing the condition of minkind as I traveled in-country. These and other criticisms are in the public domain. Please feel free to visit/revisit them.
The fact that I have heavily and persistently criticized my party and its government does not mean that I am interested in splitting the SLPP or joining a flunky political grouping of arrogant dunces and remedial crooks for any own personal benefit. All I seek is to help make SLeone a much better society even if the powers that be continue to cut me out and hold my money. And I still believe that SLPP is the vehicle to do it through and not through the followers of a failed prime ministership with their own flunky benevolent dictatorship created under cover of darkness by margo-margo opportunists as a one-man private political vehicle to realize one man's own royal, imperial birthrights.
Do you understand? I appreciate your attention. Thank you very much. - JL
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
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Date Posted: 14:41:23 11/05/06 ()
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MR.LEIGH,I thank you for clearing pointing out that Sir Albert Margai was a failed leader.I was born in the mid 60's,but I was privileged to sit down with some great men who worked with Sir Albert(late Alhaji M.S.Mustapha,late Kandeh Bureh and Dr.Salia Jusu-Sheriff)they all told me how Sir Albert willfully walked away from the values of the SLPP.The SLPP was created out off a merged primarily to bring all the peoples of Sierra Leone under one umbrella.
Sir Albert failed to understand that politics is not about"me,myself and I" it is about people in general.
His do it alone style,and his know it all approach, made a lot of good grass root politicians(Siaka Stevens,Alhaji Gabril Sesay and others) left the party.
It was obvious that because Sir Albert divided the party(SLPP) that why the party lost the 1966-67 elections to the new APC.
Since,genetics(the characteristics the parents transcend to their off-springs)is some thing people must go by.I sure you will understand why Charles Margai(Sir Albert's son)is militating against the progress of the SLPP.
Mr.Leigh,let no man fool you,Siaka Stevens did not do any thing good for Sierra Leone and its people.The buildings,bridges and roads that were built during the leadership of Siaka Stevens were built by the international community from loans given to the people with interests.
The only thing Siaka Stevens did for Sierra Leone and its people was to tampered with their psychic.He instilled fear into his people,which made the people condoned a conspiracy of silence that shielded in corruption.
Thank God for the SLPP which is busy rehabilitating the people and putting the country back on its right footing.
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: google
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Date Posted: 11:23:13 11/07/06 ()
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you are not old enough to understand that history and cannot even Honestly comment on it. You notice that no one responds to your posts because we have all realised that you are nothing but a "yes sir" kind of man with absolutely no originality.
Your level of education is stark with the kind of english and misspelled words and mal approprisms that you use. You are misplaced man.
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 22:49:07 11/03/06 ()
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"But again, let’s face it, Stevens was himself not a complete failure. He did some good things but his mistakes were catastrophic"
John what are some of the good things that Siaka Stevens did?
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 08:50:14 11/04/06 ()
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Dear Al:
I can't think rightaway of any specific deed from Siaka Stevens that was good other than the following few: building the dam generating electricity for Bo & Kenema; the direct hardtop Bo-Kenema road; Soviet scholarships for SL students; switching recognition of China from Taiwan to the mainland Republic of China; keeping the mayoralty of Freetown in the hands of the indegenes just as paramount chieftaincies are always in the hands of the indegenes; coining the phrase "a massmassable project" when he was MP & the APC Mayor of Freetown; never suffered fools or phools - dealt with them with utter dispatch.
Perhaps more might come out during the 2007 campaign.
Or since you are APC, tell us more yourself. Thanks. - JL
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 14:42:45 11/03/06 ()
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John Leigh writes on November 03, 2006:
"I say with confidence that there is absolutely no reasonable way in which our massive, virtually wall-to-wall poverty can be immediately alleviated, certainly not by one man's dunce manipulation of the exchange value of the LEONE - when numerous other countries are in the same soup."
Which, of course, begs the questions that expose Leigh as not just a failed lawyer and a failed politician, but, sadly, also a failed wannabe economist. Those questions are:
QUESTION #1: Can the allegation that "numerous other countries are in the same soup" prevent any country from changing the exchange rate of its own currency?
(a) If so, why was that not able to prevent the IMF from fooling the clueless government of SL to devalue the Leone in 1979?
(a) (1) Or, does the much more clueless John Leigh want us to believe that there were NO "numerous other countries [] in the same soup" as SL in 1979 when the SL government successfully manipulated the exchange rate of the Leone by devaluing it?
(b) If not, why could the SL government easily achieve a "manipulation of the exchange value of the LEONE" in 1979, and yet the same SL government can not do so in 2006?
(b)(1) Or, does the dunce-lawyer-turned-dumb-wannabe-economist want us to believe that the SL government's manipulation of the Leone in 1979 by devaluing it, at the behest of the IMF, was not really a "manipulation of the exchange value of the LEONE," at all?"
QUESTION #2: Can the flunky-lawyer-cum-failed politician-turned-wannabe-economist ever write a sentence that makes any sense?
Of course, no one who is by now familiar with the flunky-lawyer-cum-failed politician-turned-wannabe-economist's shameful, cowardly habit of running away from questions that expose his inability to make sensible statements, expects him to answer the above questions.
After all, as is the case in regard to the questions about his slightly less clueless hero, Vice President Berewa, which he ran away from, the flunky lawyer and failed politician knows that answering the above simple questions would also expose him as a third consecutive failure in life -- as a flunky wannabe economist.
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: Patriot in Training
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Date Posted: 14:57:49 11/03/06 ()
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These fellows cannot think out of the box even if they where outside the box. Economist and lawyers have one significant thing in common: they can paint any picture to exonerate their client or support their clients assertions. sometimes history needs to be visited to address some of these issues. JL's claim that Albert was the cause of the demise of SLPP is incomplete. The colonial powers knew what they were doing as they played both sides against the middle; the people from the hinterland vs the creole elite in the colony base. The GG wasn't looking out for the interest of the people of SL. British interests were his concerns.
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 15:09:54 11/03/06 ()
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Patriot in training writes on November 03, 2006:
"These fellows cannot think out of the box even if they where outside the box."
Which is a kind way of saying: "[This]" fellow [] cannot think."
Sad. Truly sad. And yet he claims to be smarter than Charles Margai and Ernest Koroma. If that were true,our country would go nowhere if either Margai or Koroma became its president in 2007.
Fortunately for the long suffering of people of SL, our flunky-lawyer-cum-failed politician-turned--comical-wannabe-economist is smart only in his boorish, fevered imagination.
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: Sekou Dauda
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Date Posted: 20:40:35 11/03/06 ()
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All the political vices for which the APC has been blamed started under Sir Albert. The politics of tribalism and nepotism; the one party state and above all the culture of violence in Sierra Leone politics.
It was Sir Albert who ordered Lansana and Hinga
Norman to declare Martial Law in Sierra Leone after the APC election victory in 1967.The election results were not 32/32; they were SLPP 28 and APC 32.
In an effort to justify his unofficial and automatic takeover of power from the APC, Lansana added the 4 independent candidates to the SLPP. Those four independent candidates never joined the SLPP; they joined the APC(Brewah, Kaisamba, Williams, Anthony?)
Lansana said:..."The appointment of Siaka Stevens was unconstitutional, and the army being the custodian of State security is now taking over power..." That was the beginning of military intervention in Sierra Leone.
Hinga Norman, then lieutenant, placed the governor he was supposed to protect under house arrest while he was swearing-in Siaka Stevens as Prime Minister.
The nation was plunged into a state of anarchy, chaos and panic; there was lawlessness and disorder. Prominent APC loyalists were humiliated and brutallized on the orders of Lansana and Co.Innocent lives were lost.
It is the same Hinga Norman who joined Foday Sankoh in forming the RUF that wreaked incalcullable damage on an already impoverished nation; the same Hinga Norman who formed the Kamajor militia(an offshoot of the RUF) to promote a purely SLPP agenda with Mende hegemony.
To fulfill his dream, he recruited child soldiers and unleashed a reign of terror in Sierra Leone. He is equally guilty of all the diabolical atrocities perpetrated by Foday Saybana Sankoh.
Little wonder Hinga Norman is now paying for all the crimes he had committed against innocent Sierra Leoneans. Today, he is viwed as a political albatross. Kabba and Berewah have severed ties with him because they don't want to incur the wrath of the UN.
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:20:17 11/04/06 ()
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Mr. Sheku Dauda:
In connection with your following statement:
"On whose doorstop should we put the blame for the carnage and destruction of Sierra Leone?
Logically, the SLPP whose insatiable thirst for power led to the untold damage and destruction of a whole nation", please note that the RUF war started after the One-party state had been in existence for many years and there was not a single peaceful, legitimate political outlet for the law-abiding population except emigrate.
Wasn't the tribalistic KDDA Supremes in their full glory at the time the war commenced?
Please also note that prior to the RUF war, general elections were notorious "unopposed” affairs and APC Stevens always "won" with 99.9% of the popular vote. Candidates who tried to contest as independents were either jailed or secretly killed. Political corruption was rife.
A friend of mine and an ex-SLPP MP, Mr. Garvas Labor, the former principal of Bumpeh Secondary School, Bo District, was jailed for 77 days at Pademba Road Prison merely because he sought to file as an independent candidate in opposition to Stevens’ APC choice. On the 78th day he was fetched to Mr. Stevens who called him a ‘village school teacher’ and ordered Mr. Labor to go back to his village.
SLPP, NOT APC, HAS A GENUINE DEMOCRATIC TRADITION
True, Sir Albert attempted to initiate a one-party system but his own SLPP legislators together with the deep democracy within the SLPP blocked him. On the other hand, APC unanimously allowed Stevens to get his way unopposed to the eventual extreme detriment of our people, including his own APC yes-men, lackeys, opportunists, KDDAs and innocent supporters who never stoop-up to him the way SLPP members stoop-up against the SLPP Administration of Sir Albert and against the current SLPP Administration.
CORRUPTION & DETERIORATION UNDER BAD LEADERSHIP
Saheed Jameel was then the reigning non-government King of Korruption in possession of the safe combination at DIMINCO! The public repeatedly complained about the spreading poverty and the reckless, open corruption. Siaka Stevens response was said to be thus:
1. “People say money nor dey! But look at all dem fine-fine hous wey dem dey build nar the hills around Freetown. Ah say, money dey. Nah for fenn nam!”
2. “Sense man say, Bialor Barrie. You say Davison Nicole. Bo do yah, leff me sahful!”
Meanwhile, cacao, coffee, piassava and bangah, etc. farmers were constantly held-up by the SLPMB people. Legitimate exports of diamond gemstones declined from approx. 1.2 million carats annually to only 200 or 300 hundred carats of industrial stones annually. All this went on while the nation’s infrastructure (such as electricity plants) was permitted to woefully deteriorate unattended with pre-literate APC supporters holding top jobs.
As official export earnings collapsed and the worldwide reputation of our government became increasingly notorious, the LEONE continuously depreciated - IMF interventions not withstanding. Extreme exchange control laws were put in place. The discriminatory management of the said exchange control system profited crooks and the connected but caused heavy losses to legitimate, tax-paying traders.
The endgame came when the local international sector – PZ, CFAO, UAC, SCOA, UTC, Cold Storage, Leventis, Rawlinson, Milheim, CMS Bookshop – divested and quietly departed Sierra Leone.
Unemployment then soared. People became sick and tired of the tight APC yoke around their necks so much so that when the NPRC coup came there was utter jubilation and dancing in streets and by-ways in our land.
LIBYA’S INTERVENTION
Additionally, unrest was quite common place prior to the NPRC coup, with students/teachers frequently on strike in the period leading up to war. And when several students were expelled by Stevens' APC abusive government, Ghaddafi gave them scholarships and warfare training in Tripoli. Some of those returned home to make revolution against the APC.
A number of those students then set-up the RUF as per Green Book revolutionary theories and hired Foday Sankoh as their military commander. At the time of his hire, Sankoh was then a cashiered corporal and struggling photographer in the once-booming transport hub and trading town of Segbewema but which had been by then rendered poor by the twin problem of the railway's closure for scrap and SLPMB'S persistent hold-up of producers' money.
Sankoh was soon sent to Libya for revolutionary training by arrangements put in place by the revolutionary students. In Libya, Sankoh was introduced to Charles Taylor and Blaisé Campaore. Those three eventually became the Triple Devils of SLeone’s destruction.
Upon his return home, Sankoh then proceeded to methodically seize control of the RUF by (i) systematically executing his employers upon the slightest disagreement (a lucky few escaped to tell the story), (ii) forced recruitment, (iii) the subjugation of females and (iv) authoring his recruits to steal, rape and despoil the countryside willy-nilly as compensation for military service.
In order to get his recruits to wholly depend on him for everything and thus ensure his own absolute supremacy over them, he forced recruits to rape their mothers, aunts and sisters in public as well as destroy their social support system by (i) killing off their parents and other adults, (ii) destroying their villages and (iii) confiscating their food, produce and domestic animals including dogs and cats.
THE KAMAJORS
It was this mayhem that the Kamajors were organized to contain and eliminate, and not to impose Mende hegemony upon anyone as you have incorrectly claimed. The Kamajors were not ambitious for Mende people at all. The Kamajors were a purely defense force, loosely organized in protecting the communities individual kamajors actually inhabited.
As you know, the kamajors did not come into existence until years after the RUF’s egregious acts against innocent and defenseless villagers had appeared to those villagers as never-ending and with little or no expectation of effective help from the government. So, local hunters with no military training began to defend themselves and their village communities.
Further, the Kamajors never recruited child soldiers. True, a lot of children were with Kamajor forces during the height of RUF/AFRC excesses but those were mostly orphaned child and the younger siblings of recruits who had lost all their social support systems to RUF savagery. Kamajors provided these children with protection, food, places to sleep, clothes and a social organization. Of course, in real emergencies, all available hands were put on deck to avoid disasters.
Moreover, if I had been privileged to defend any of the Kamajors in front of the Special Court, I would have sought to educate the judges - and thus the International War Crimes Adjudication System - about the key difference in concept between provincial Sierra Leone and Western societies as to what constitutes a “child”.
As you may be aware, in the West, a child is someone below a certain age. But such is not the case in provincial Sierra Leone. In our provinces, no male is ever considered a child if his younger sister is married and pregnant. Period! And pre-literate kamajors have never heard of Geneva, let alone know anything about the Geneva Convention.
But let’s admit the truth: there were terrible abuses even against Mendes by some kamajors. I have heard several stories about a kamajor man killing people to take their wives and that by war’s end he had acquired 30 wives. Another oppressed all kins of people to capture their property, and so on. But no proofs were offered and such conduct was not kamajor policy, only the acts of way-word warriors.
The above is my own understanding of the origins of the RUF war, the nature of the war itself and the part played by the kamajor movement: i.e. the war was provoked by persistent, widespread evil governance, the extreme frustration of a law-abiding population; the violent, insatiable corruption of Sankoh as well as Libya’s intervention. The Kamajors were village hunters who waited in their compounds to defend and hunt RUF savages. They had no grand design for any Mende hegemony.
Thank you for your attention. - JL
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER/INTERESTING
From: Musa Kal
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Date Posted: 05:56:03 11/04/06 ()
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This Interesting.
Do you have document to support your claim, or where in the archives of SIERRA LEONE will I get such information?
P/S Let me know. If that was Hinga Norman's foot path, then he deserve more than what he is now getting.
As the saying goes "the evil that men do, live after them".........Lonta
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER/INTERESTING
From: Sekou Dauda
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Date Posted: 08:33:29 11/04/06 ()
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Are you familiar with the history of Sierra Leone?
Take it from me, I am an authority in Sierra Leone politics.
The leader of the RUF Foday Saybana Sankoh was jailed by Stevens because of his involvement in the Bangura coup. Sankoh languished in jail for seven years all because of Momoh, who staged a counter coup against Bangura.
Foday Sankoh was not just bent on destroying the APC government that jailed him, but Momoh, whom he considered a traitor. Thus the rebel war was started as a war against the APC government. It was fueled and financed by disgruntled SLPP politicians.
If you are familiiar with the ethnic makeup of the RUF, you'll find out that aside from Foday Sankoh, most of its top leaders are from the South-East. The RUF headquarter is located at an SLPP stronghold.
On whose doorstop should we put the blame for the carnage and destruction of Sierra Leone?
Logically, the SLPP whose insatiable thirst for power led to the untold damage and destruction of a whole nation.
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER/INTERESTING
From: Allie Rainbow
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Date Posted: 09:46:49 11/05/06 ()
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Sekou Dauda Wrote
"The leader of the RUF Foday Saybana Sankoh was jailed by Stevens because of his involvement in the Bangura coup. Sankoh languished in jail for seven years all because of Momoh, who staged a counter coup against Bangura.....
When Did Momoh Stage a Counter Coup against the Bangurah Group?
Were the so called Loyal Forces that resisted the allegedly failed attempt by Bangurah,Jawara,SE Momoh and others not led by Col Sam King?
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER/INTERESTING
From: Sekou Dauda
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Date Posted: 11:44:05 11/05/06 ()
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Do you know why Stevens catapulted Momoh from Colonel to Brigadier, and eventually handpicked him as president of Sierra Leone?
That is the political payback for saving him during the Bangura,Jawara, and others coup in 1971. Foday Saybana Sankoh, who was part of the coup plot was then a corporal. Because of his low-ranking position, he was not executed but sent to jail for seven years.
It will interest you to know that Sankoh was involved in virtually all the coups in the late 60s. He was involved in the counter coup against Lansana,the coup against Juxon Smith, and eventually the Bangura coup, which led to his imprisonment and unceremonious dismissal from the army.
Whilst in prison, he vowed to destroy the APC, and to settle scores with Momoh. As you can see, he had a personal grudge. Others joined him to fulfill their political ambitions. Those SLPP politicians who have not been able to remove the APC through a free and fair election, supported the RUF. The Rural poor and negelected joined the RUF because of the opportunity offered to loot. Those whose relatives have been executed by the APC also supported the RUF. Many others joined purely to settle personal scores with people that have taken advantage of them in the past -from land disputes to a host of many other factors.
If you have a sense of history, you'll understand that coups, revolutions and wars are usually brought about by a combination of factors ranging from, social, economic, political, personal and external. I don't have time now to look at these in detail with regard to the rebel war of Foday Sankoh. Suffice it to say that there were both internal and external factors.
I will attempt in my next contribution to take a look at corruption in Sierra Leone Politics and show you the linkage with the rebel war. The urban unemployed, who have been marginalized by rapacious politicians joined the RUF.
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER/INTERESTING
From: Allie Rainbow
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Date Posted: 13:56:18 11/05/06 ()
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I Know that Momoh was the Commanding Officer in Charge of the Army's first Battalion in 1971:
I also understand that as a Limba Man from the North,he was appointed Force Commander ahead of Sam King and maybe two others other officers who were his
Seniors because of Political Patronage:
I am not questioning Momoh's allegiance to Siaka Stevens or the APC Party However I am contending that Momoh at no time in his carreer ever led any group to
foil Bangurah's Attempt on Stevens....The Bangurah Coup was thwarted by loyal Troops led by Colonel Sam King but Momoh,Tarawallie,McCarthy,Toronka and
the Majority of Senior officers had sided with Sam King;...However, Momoh allegedly gave information to CID and Stevens to implicate Bangurah!
It is true that Foday Sankoh at some point in his army Career served as John Bangurah's Bodyguard and Driver.
Sankoh was also had links to Alex Conteh and Imadu Rogers' and non-commisioned officers of the ACRM that overthrew Juxon Smith's NRC.
Sankoh may have participated in the Lansana Coup but he was definately not a Player then.
The Major Players in the Lansana and Blake Coup were enlisted OFFICERS from South Eastern Sierra Leone background generally linked by Political interests
that were either affiliated or enstranged from the SLPP party and Government:.
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER/INTERESTING
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 14:44:12 11/05/06 ()
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It is true that Foday Sankoh at some point in his army Career served as John Bangurah's Bodyguard and Driver.
Yes it is true. In 1969 - 1970 Cpl Foday Saybana Sankoh was the driver and body guard to Brigadier John Bangura.
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER/INTERESTING
From: seydouba
To: All
Date Posted: 19:54:15 11/05/06 ()
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Allie wrote:
It is true that Foday Sankoh at some point in his army Career served as John Bangurah's Bodyguard and Driver.
Yes it is true. In 1969 - 1970 Cpl Foday Saybana Sankoh was the driver and body guard to Brigadier John Bangura.
Seydouba write:
NOPE...Sankoh was never a driver nor a body guard to Brig.Bangura.
Sankoh is a signal's officer by Trade and he was attached to the signals unit in Murray Town.
Bangura and Sankoh both fought in the Congo in the '60s.
Brig.Bangura's driver was Cpl Jalloh.
He was arrested and then dismissed from the army.
Allie kindly update your data base.
Thanks
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER/INTERESTING
From: Allie Rainbow
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Date Posted: 13:39:38 11/06/06 ()
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Of Course Jalloh was the Force Commander's official Driver and Sankoh was a Member of the Signals Squardron which is headquartered at Wilberforce;
However,according to Army Proceedures,a Signaler is always deployed to serve the Force Commander at his Base,his Residence and to be mobile with him whenever he is travelling to other areas in the Country.
Therefore Sankoh's Services as a Signaler was quite relevant to the FC's Communications Network,But how he ended up serving as Bodyguard or Driver to Bangurah is not Clear;
All the same one of Bangurah's relative who was with Sankoh when he was arrested in Nigeria,claimed that she had known Sankoh since the time Coporal sankoh was deployed at the Force Commander's Residence.
So we Know for sure that he was once deployed at John Bangurah's residence in the capacity of either a Signaler,a Bodyguard or a Driver.
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER/INTERESTING
From: Patriot in Training
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Date Posted: 07:52:40 11/06/06 ()
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Sankoh never had a part in the alleged Bangura coup. He was included by association. Coporal Sankoh was Major Jawara's batman during that period.
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER/INTERESTING
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 13:26:12 11/05/06 ()
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In fact I am in possession of a video tape about which I had posted some material on this forum. In that Video tape, Hinga Norman and Foday Sankoh were in Bo in a desensitization exercise where Hinga Norman said the following words:
"bo foday leh we nor hide pan dem people ya so nar me en you plan dis fet wen we bin dae na pademba road. De forse meeting we get nar da hose nar Dambara Road right ya so nar Bo town"
The RUF war was financed and supported by the SLPP in its initial stages. It was the SLPP party that infiltrated the fourah bay college Youths and created the first cadre of the RUF intelligensia. Most of these were executed by Foday Sankoh after he became alligned with Charles Taylor and fell out with the SLPP (somewhat because of greed). The RUF movement started as an ideological war against the APC government and later mushroomed into an all out fighting war.
Most SLPP members know this fact and as a matter of fact most members of the SLPP, including those who were parliamentarians and ministers in the APC, were secretly involved in the effort of the RUF. They would want to deny this now but the evidence on this issue is massive and I have been priviledged to see it, examine it analyse it and speak to witnesses who would authenticate it both in my role as an advocate for the national cause and as a member of the Office of the prosecutor of the Special court.
Which is why it is niot surprising to me that most former RUF combattants are now hard core members of the SLPP party, for whicgh they were fighting as proxies. I am not saying that ALL members of the present SLPP were members or supporters of the RUF but a great majority were.
Most people believe that Sankoh was a Northerner because of his name. He spent most of his time growing up as youth in Segbwema and in the south east. Further he was SLPP to the core and he made that known to his cadre of southeastern compatriots with whom he started the war. Further people must also know that Sankoh was the publicity secretary for the SLPP in the 1960's and early 70's, for the Tonkolili west Constituency. This is a fact that most forumites do not know and it explains the fact that Sankoh's war was fought as an SLPP proxy war.
The truth is going to come out sooner or later. The facts of our history and the war would never be distorted or changed.
It is one of the lamest excuses given by the SLPP, that the war was justified in order to overthroe the APC. In retrospect it was folly to go to war and cause all that material and infrastructural destruction. The international community must be really stupid to pour money into any country which on its own volition and to feed the greed of a few misguided leaders, wages war on its own people and now places its hands out for help to rebuild that which they destroyed themselves.
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: Trash
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Date Posted: 00:56:41 11/04/06 ()
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This trash is not worthy of posting on this forum.
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: Foday
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Date Posted: 04:07:47 11/04/06 ()
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So why is it that any one that posts something critical of the slpp, mende hedgemony,hinga norman, is posting trash?
So what part of wht was posted is trash or is it all trash.
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: MENDE BOY
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Date Posted: 06:09:29 11/04/06 ()
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thumbs up for you bro.
SLPP/Mende have being elevating their mentality with this MENDE thing/Tribalism. Especially these old folks, haven't you all realize that SL. was not own by MENDES. Enough is Enough. This must end or wish you good luck in your CACAO FARM.....Bu wa ya!!!!
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: SLPP DIEHARD
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Date Posted: 07:56:18 11/03/06 ()
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How can any sane person characterize Tejan Kabbah's leadership as a failure? The man inherited a failed state in 1996, battered by years of APC maladministration and military take-overs.
As if the plunder of the state coffers was not enough the APC created a war in 1991 as a ploy to distract sierra leoneans from the then prevailing realities of underdevelopment and backwardness. The war then was used as a facade for doing nothing while an APC political agenda was crafted to depopulate the mendes through that same barbaric war.
The APC were able to fool some of the people some of the time but not all the people were fooled all the time. So when the young military guys realized the barbarity and guile behind the APC tactics, they turned their guns on their bosses in Freetown and kicked out the APC that had been toying with the lives of sierra leones for decades.
OUT went the APC but the war they created remained. Sierra Leone in the process was destroyed and battered beyond recognition. It had to take courage and selfless sacrifice and determination on the part of a UN retiree to put all his best endeavors together to ensure that sierra leone was saved from the fate that Somalia continues to wallow in. Somalia and Sierra Leone had their problems at the beginning of the 90's. The difference is , sierra leone had Tejan Kabbah.
To understate Tejan Kabbah's success as a leader, who brought sierra leone back to life and got it on its feet again with the re-establishment of state authority and institutions amid peace, calm and stability, is, to put it very mildly, Ungrateful and dishonest.
Now, sierra leone is a nation-state again; a status it had lost through the care-free and nonchalant conduct of the APC in managing matters of state. The APC put mundane and little matters like womanizing ahead of important state administration issues; they spent all their time plundering the state for personal aggrandizement and ephemeral enjoymant.
Alieu cannot therefore objectively and contextually define failure in this respect because his senses get blurry when it comes to that, since he himself is 'failure turned inside-out' and a visible beneficiary of dysfunctional statehood where all 'rats' grab what they can and dash back into their holes after the stapede. From afar they start to holler again. Don't attempt to fool the people again. YOU have been discovered for what you are!
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: Faint Late
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Date Posted: 11:25:55 11/03/06 ()
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De man faint late. E sabi bot e nor know.
Phrrrrrrrr-ding-ding ding
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: CADMUS
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Date Posted: 10:08:35 11/03/06 ()
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Alieu,
Any African Leader, in those days who can conduct an election which was so free fair that he actually lost it must be the greatest Democrat Sa lone has ever had.
SLPP has been and always will be the only Democratic Party that will work for and in the interest of Sa Lone.Sierra leoneans are no fools, they know that, they recognise a good thing when they see one, all the more they will return the current SLPP to power in July 2007.
Sir Albert is the Second best Leader that the SLPP and Sa lone has ever had....shame about the son, never mind.he will learn and he will come back home some day, the son that is.
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: CADMUS
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Date Posted: 15:56:56 11/03/06 ()
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Wuna Watch this Man.....Fool...looolol, en dae always couse people them mama, wae we they try for talk bette tin na this forum. are no know if en real name na CADMUS.
Or en dae ack lek am.
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: CADMUS
To: All
Date Posted: 16:33:08 11/03/06 ()
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Wuna Watch this Man.....Fool...looolol, en dae always couse people them mama, wae we they try for talk bette tin na this forum. are no know if en real name na CADMUS.
Or en dae ack lek am.
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 11:33:14 11/03/06 ()
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"Any African Leader, in those days who can conduct an election which was so free fair that he actually lost it must be the greatest Democrat Sa lone has ever had"
Except of course all the credits due him, are erased by the fact that he supported the coup by David Lansana which sought to overthrow the WILL of the people, which in itself is a very UNDEMOCRATIC act. wouldn't you say?
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 11:27:49 11/03/06 ()
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Cadmus If you notice I cut and paste a sentence from John Leighs posting regarding the issue I posted on. I was expecting John Leigh my friend, mentor and political opponent to respond. I will not be responding to diatribes like that from SLPP Diehard, because it is counterproductive to the issues posted on. Stay Blessed
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: CADMUS
To: All
Date Posted: 10:40:18 11/04/06 ()
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Thanks Alieu,
When we stay focus on this forum, it shows that we can discuss matters cogent to the interest of our Country.
I respect and admire it when you make sensible coments or contributions on this forum.
I am glad the spart between you and Sengbe is over.
we must remain al3rt for those idiots who still believe in causing problems, and marginalise them.
An example is here above where someone using my name is accusing me of mamie cuss on this forum....Any forum watcher would know that I have never done such a thing, I am too intelligent for that.
I can express myself well without resorting to such low class attitude.
let us talk about our Country and what affects us. those who are not capable of contributing, should watch and learn.
Allah'Blessins always.
Subject: Re: WAS SIR ALBERT REALLY A FAILED LEADER
From: SLPP DIEHARD
To: All
Date Posted: 10:40:07 11/03/06 ()
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Message:
CADMUS,
I salute your brilliance. SLPP has produced the best in sierra leone, whether it is human capital, infrastructure, the economy, systems of governance, ideology; you name it.
COME JULY 2007 SLPP WILL EMERGE AGAIN!
Subject: RE: Independent politicians....................
From: musa kal.
To: All
Date Posted: 18:12:13 11/02/06 ()
Email Address: muskalawa@yahoo.com
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Message:
Did your all failed to realize there are some Sierra Leoneans like us who are independent in the political arena of sierra leone?
we needs to have more of these people to determine the flow of politics in SL. I am inviting a proportionate number of all well wishers of our beloved country Sierra Leone from all regions of Sierra Leone, especially the south & south eastern part of the country.
It will be of great importance to form such, so that no one party will ever have an absolute majority in the house of parliament in SL. Of cause you know what it meant when there is an absolute majority by the ruling party? There is no balance of power in either sector of government, Too much favors "SABI..SABI..BUSINESS" you think it is not happening but wait and see till you fall victim. Be it first, second, or a third world country.
I suggest in order to revive sierra loene from this calamity and make it one of the fastest growing economy if not all of Africa but in west Africa, there should be such a system were independent voters decide the flow of power if we may all like to get our country out of such mess.
Typical e.g. The appointment of former presidential spokes man "Kemoh Kanji Daramy" and other dubious appointment..........Lonta.
Subject: Re: RE: Independent politicians....................
From: CADMUS
To: All
Date Posted: 09:36:07 11/03/06 ()
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Musa kal
You say Sa lone today is a 'calamity'
How would you describe it during the APC days?
I am not sure about your undersatnding of political science, but in Countries where the governmnet does not an absolute majority, you invariably tend to have unstable and weak administrations thaat dont last long.
Good examples are countries with proportional represention system in Europe where governments fall sometime every othet year... Surely you dont want that type of unstability for our beloved Sa Lone now, do you?
Subject: Re: RE: Independent politicians/ TO CADMUS..........
From: Musa Kal
To: All
Date Posted: 15:21:12 11/03/06 ()
Email Address: muskalawa@yahoo.com
Entered From: adsl-69-230-180-220.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net at 69.230.180.220
Message:
Firstly, to answer your question, during the old APC days If I recall you can remember some were around 1989 when the then President was bold enough to go on national radio/television and address the people of SL. "I have failed the Nation" and he went on saying "Education is no longer a right but a privilege" at first people/I thought he was a murderer but coming to think of it in today's political playing field, I will rather respect him for admitting failure to one who continue to stair his people on the wrong path without taking responsibility of his failure.
Is this not some form of a healing process for the people whose fate was at stake?
Knowing not much about political science as it is not my area of study; in a practical view point, you will agree with me that a ruling party that holds absolute majority in both houses as in the case of for example; the United State "Senate and Congress", bills generated at the interest of the sitting party mostly pass through even with though resistance from the other party.
In the case of SL. with a single system of house of representative, again you will agree with me that the attempt of the opposing party to push for checks & balances is in most cases fruitless. Therefore don't you think it will be wise for all well wishers of SL. be you SLPP, APC, PMDC or whatever to welcome an opposing side if not as equal to the ruling party but to some extent were that party will not be able to pass all bills with hidden agenda for the sake of progress?
Until all Sierra Leoneans decide to work together in earnest faith, progress will be difficult to achieve.
The word for the wise is quite sufficient.....Lonta
Subject: Re: RE: Independent politicians/ TO CADMUS..........
From: Musa's Mum
To: All
Date Posted: 15:41:03 11/03/06 ()
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Entered From: user-0cdfqui.cable.mindspring.com at 24.215.235.210
Message:
Musa,
You haven't called me since the last time family members prevailed on you to call mama. Musa, i am sorry that you never knew your dad. It was a mistake on my part, but I took good care of you while you were growing up. Please forgive me and call me asap. I ned finanvial help. Musa, please forgive your mum.
Subject: Re: RE: Independent politicians/ TO CADMUS..........
From: CADMUS
To: All
Date Posted: 15:45:39 11/03/06 ()
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No Respond, I though you were sobba minded> Go to hell and rott like a stinkin fish....Lonta
Subject: TRUE OR FALSE?
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 07:07:18 11/02/06 ()
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Message:
In the Southeast, it appears to me that voters will go to the polls armed with matters of personalities rather than those of greater national issues.
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE?
From: Sylvester Johnny
To: All
Date Posted: 22:26:16 11/02/06 ()
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What region are you calling Southeast? Just be careful not to brand a group of people based on their origin.
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE?
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 06:01:57 11/03/06 ()
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Sylvester Johnny, you are the second person to ask me this question about the Southeast. Geographycally, Bo, Pujehun, and Kenema are located in the Southeast of Sierra Leone.
Pertaining to my statement, what group of people, based on your perception, I could have offended by branding them based on their origin?
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE?
From: CADMUS
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Date Posted: 11:06:35 11/02/06 ()
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KING LOGGY....where exertly is the 'Southeast'?
I know that the people in BO will vote on national policies which only the SLPP has cogent ones in the interest of Sierra Leone, and when the time comes they will do so VOTE SLPP...believe!
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE?
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 13:25:00 11/02/06 ()
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"I know that the people in BO will vote on national policies which only the SLPP has cogent ones in the interest of Sierra Leone,....."
(CADMUS)
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Are you also speaking for the people in Bo who left Berewa's SLPP for Margai's PMDC?
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE?
From: CADMUS
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Date Posted: 05:51:53 11/03/06 ()
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KING LOGGY
NO, I am however talking about the MAJORITY of the people of Bo. After all our democracy is based on the first pass the post system.That is all we need..not every one but the majority.
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE?
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 06:04:37 11/03/06 ()
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The MAJORITY uh? Well brother, I am sure Chales Margai, his followers, and the elections have yet to pronounce the MAJORITY.
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE?
From: gadafi
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Date Posted: 11:02:04 11/02/06 ()
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This JL, is he the crazy Baldhead that was vying for the SLPP leadership,If yes, then thank God he never was able to slip through the cracks.He needs to be on medication
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE?
From: CADMUS
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Date Posted: 09:54:52 11/03/06 ()
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My friend who ever you are,get a life. You are trying to make 'MISCHIEF' here.
I am having a good discussion here with KING LOGGY and you are trying to bring JOHN LEIGH into it gratuitously.
You people will never learn...John is so far superior to all of you put together.
The man takes you on day in and day out on this forum, destroys the best you can offer and you still come back for more.When will you have enough?
I have learnt so much from John Leigh's School of Political Science...which is, he never say 'GO CAM'
He answers back. In the begining I thought it was dangerous for a big man to answer back, but John has shown us that we are dealing with Sierra leoneans, and there is only one language they understand..the nice politics if for Europe, and in your case for the US.In sierra Leone where the politics is based on LIES, CONGOSAR and DENSAY,and no evidence is ever offered to support allegations, I say thank GOD for JOHN LEIGH.
Thanks to you Ngo John.
Subject: Re: TRUE OR FALSE?
From: FORREST GUMP
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Date Posted: 13:50:46 11/03/06 ()
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Same here Ngo John. Thanks for defending the only serious party in sierra Leone. THE SLPP
FORREST
Subject: JOHN LEIGH DELIVERS A KNOCK-OUT PUNCH
From: Flunky Economics
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Date Posted: 06:01:50 11/02/06 ()
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"Further, merely because I told one particular individual I know as a dunce, flunky, remedial rubbish writer (e.g. read the dunce: "HOW TO IMMEDIATELY ALLEVIATE POVERTY IN SLEONE")that I need no phony compliment from him, does not mean I also don't need genuine compliments for someone serious,intelligent and responsible like either Mr. Allie Rainbow or Mr. Alie Formeh Kamara, etc."JEL.
Subject: Re: JOHN LEIGH receives A KNOCK-OUT PUNCH
From: Flunky Lawyer, Flunkier Diplomat, Flunkiest Politician
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Date Posted: 07:36:07 11/02/06 ()
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"John Leigh, Do you see your problem? No? Well, let me help you out. If Formeh and Rainbow are intelligent, as you stated earlier today, and the same two intelligent gentlemen praise Jalloh as highly intelligent, you display only your own stupidity by referring to jalloh as a "dunce!" Kapish?
If me nar you, Pa, I would stop making a fool of myself by calling someone like jalloh who is obviously far more intelligent than you, names. Rather, I would try to learn from him by answering his highjly intelligent questions, instead of fleeing from them,. Many of us learn from every one of his articles, including the one you obviously didn't read, and yet you dared to call names. Grow up, Leigh." -- Observer
Subject: Re: JOHN LEIGH receives A KNOCK-OUT PUNCH
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:52:18 11/07/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Flunky Lawyer, Flunkier Diplomat, Flunkiest Politician, Flunky Forumite, Flunkie Idiot:
You are a true dunce and needlessly rude. You can't tell the difference between knowledge and intelligence. Nor do you understand basic logic. The reasons are explained below.
Your argumentation that: "If Formeh and Rainbow are intelligent, as you stated earlier today, and the same two intelligent gentlemen praise Jalloh as highly intelligent, you display only your own stupidity by referring to jalloh as a "dunce!" Kapish?" is totally dune-like. Man you are stupid!
You are dead wrong and argue remedial-like like the flinkie you are.
Merely because Messrs B & C appear intelligent to A in a given situation and B & C had earlier declared as 'intelligent', D's trash piece of writing against the IMF and poverty alleviation in a particular country as "intelligent" does not mean that A is in error in condemning as 'unintelligent', 'dunce-like', 'stupid'etc., the particular rubbish piece of writing at issue.
I never said any particular individual is intelligent on everything and everywhere. I limited my comment to the way two gentlemen have presented there postings in this forum ONLY - whether they are technically right or wrong on each posting is a totally different matter. In my opinion, they have presesented their postings intelligently and with respect, etc. - and nothing more.
Such a conclusion has nothing to do with the accuracy of their individual technical knowledge about how the IMF or the World Bank operates or the reasons behind the degradation of the external value of a particular currency or how to fix poverty in our country.
Learning by rote is behind the classification of our people as the world's least erudite people. Please learn to understand and analyse issues, not just 'cram and pass' but remain as stupid as ever.
Please always keep in mind that 'intelligence' and 'knowledge' represent two distict concepts. Further, agreement in one area does in no way mean agreement on another area or in all areas.
Your next point was this: "If me nar you, Pa, I would stop making a fool of myself by calling someone like jalloh who is obviously far more intelligent than you, names. Rather, I would try to learn from him by answering his highjly intelligent questions, instead of fleeing from them........-- Observer"
From your writing, it is clear that you are in no position to make any worthwhile contribution to debate in this forum as you obviously prefer insults to logic. I am the exact opposite. I go for logic first!
Besides, Mr. Jalloh's questions are not intelligent as you claim and I have answered them tit-for-tat. His additional questions reflect anger and hot temper. I do not participate with people when they appear to me to be in a hot state of blood.
Finally, please let the public decide whose - Jalloh's or me - writing is far much intelligent than the other. You are not qualified to sit in judgment as per your record in this matter. Goodbye. - JL
Subject: Who owns Sierra leone
From: Pray for Sierra Leone
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Date Posted: 04:43:25 11/02/06 ()
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There are certain malevolent people who have given Sierra leone to the devil. Kabbah is at the forefront of it. sinve he assumed power, he has caused the Country to sink in the abyss of perpetual darkness.
It is without light that the devil will manifest itself.
It is a shame that the people of Sierra leone will leave their future in the hands of devil worshippers, who have pawned Sierra Leone to their gods.
We therefore, are calling on all God fearing Sierra Leoneans to pray ceaseless for our beloved land, in order for God to rid Sierra Leone from bad politicians.
Subject: Re: Who owns Sierra leone
From: ok dok
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Date Posted: 18:18:52 11/02/06 ()
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SLPP OWNS SIERRA LEONE. THANKS
Subject: A PATRIOTIC DUTY THAT EVERY SIERRA LEONEAN SHOULD PERFORM
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 04:21:56 11/02/06 ()
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Bambay Lans Kamara wrote on November 01, 2006:
"Also, remember that Sierra Leone is this way it is today because of the many who think that she is a monarchy, and that they being princes and princesses of this monarchy therefore, their views and actions must not be questioned, ...."
Bambay Lans Kamara:
Thank you for your well-reasoned posting yesterday. As usual, you have unerringly put your finger on the virtually uniform character flaw of SL's rulers. That defect consists of the wilful refusal of SL's politicians to account for their actions in office to their real employer -- the people of SL who pay their salaries other emoluments.
We have seen this display of wanton public immorality throughout the serial rape of our country by those who place their puny self-interest above the infinitely larger interest of the people of SL. From former President Siaka Stevens and his selfish imposition of a one-party state in a bid to perpetuate his selfish hold on power, to the current president, Ahmad Tejan Kabbah's selfish refusal to hold himself and his like-minded Vice President, Solomon Berewa, responsible for the internationally notorious corruption of the SLPP government they lead and which has condemned millions of S/Leoneans to a life of unrelenting poverty, the story is the same: The shameful triumph of purely selfish personal interest over the interest of the people of SL.
Which brings us to the crucial problem you identified in your statement quoted above, and the solution to it you alluded to when you wrote: "There are most people on this forum, in the Diaspora, who when they return to the country all they see are the sad state of affairs in the country. Do they have a right to speak, of course they do."
I agree with you entirely.
Therefore, as I have done for the past 27 years, I will continue to exercise my inalienable right to speak out openly against the extremely harmful and utterly selfish actions of the unpatriotic few among us which have sentenced millions of S/Leoneans to a life of needless poverty. It is a patriotic duty which I join you in humbly recommending that each and every fellow S/Leonean courageously and decorously perform to the fullest extent under the law.
No less than the future of our country depends upon us -- all of us -- performing that solemn duty to our long pillaged and plundered homeland, and its needlessly long suffering people.
Thank you for your compliment. Kindly accept my commendation upon your latest display of the sharp intellect and patriotism for which I have always admired you.
Subject: Re: A PATRIOTIC DUTY THAT EVERY SIERRA LEONEAN SHOULD PERFORM
From: Amen
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Date Posted: 17:57:48 11/02/06 ()
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mr. jalloh, you nar man, bra! No wonder Crase Leigh dae runaway pan you questions dem. HEHEHEHEHE
Subject: The SLPP Government: A Fortress of Corruption?
From: ANTI-CORRUPTION
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Date Posted: 03:51:09 11/02/06 ()
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The SLPP Government: A Fortress of Corruption?
- Thursday 2 November 2006.
Commentary
By Joe Sandie
Corruption in Sierra Leone is not only endemic but systemic. Even though the government, like other African governments, painfully constrains itself in creating an Anti- Corruption Commission a little over five years ago, this commission¡¦s impacts on the status quo, are yet to manifest themselves.
Any attempt at itemizing every corrupt practice in this article would be very laborious. I would therefore limit myself to more current episodes.
The first incident concerns a thirty million leones (Le 30,000,000) donation made by a group of senior civil servants to the vice president Solomon Berewa in August, who is also the presidential candidate for the SLPP.
Every citizen has the right to vote for the party and candidate of his/her choice. But when civil servants have the guts to breeze into the V.P¡¦s residence in two buses to boost his campaign trail, we are bound to be concerned. The civil service as we know it, must be impartial. Our civil service has the worst salary structure in the country; so how could they have raised this money? Apart from funds that are meant for national development,there is no other source for them. This despicable act which has received the blessing of the government¡¦s leadership has again endorsed corruption and motivated civil servants to continue to plunder public funds.
One would expect that president Tejan Kabbah would have raised eye brows at his lawyer V.P (as lawyers in Africa are never known to be clean) because of his experience as a civil servant. Unfortunately nothing good can be expected from a man who had to flee Sierra Leone for fear of prosecution as a result of a financial scam he was in volved in. Consequently his house at Juba, was seized by the then APC government in the early seventies. President J.S. Momoh was however magnanimous to return the house to his ownership not because he was exonerated by the courts. This was the Tejan Kabbah who became an adviser to the NPRC government and was made chairman of a law reform commission to review the 1991 constitution but he and his cohorts failed woefully.
When in 1996 he won the presidential elections amidst massive vote rigging, he immediately made Dr. James Jonah finance minister being as it were, compensation for over seeing a worthless election that earned him the presidency, even though he knew it was wrong for him to have made that appointment. Dr. Jonah saw the abnormality, and was quick to relinquish his office as soon as his first term in office was over.
Tejan Kabbah really condones corruption; let us look at the current boss at the Sierra Leone Commercial Bank who was dismissed at Barclays bank for financial impropriety. But because he is his tribes man he gave him the job.
Also his presidential spokesman who is also his kith and kin lost his job as boss at the Sierra Leone postal services for financial embezzlement by a commission of enquiry but was picked up by Kabbah and made spokesman after Kabbah had ordered another committee to review the report, clean it as it were, so that it could pass through parliament. And guess what, Kabba has again appointed Kanji Daramy to chair the telecommunication commission. The ratification of his appointment by parliament was manipulated by the SLPP. Members of the opposition A P C party walked out of parliament. This notwithstanding, the SLPP parliamentarians endorsed his appointment. This further shows how the SLPP would continue to systematize corruption in Sierra Leone.
At the end of the 2004 council elections the NEC boss Mr. Eugene Davies had to relinquish his post because he could no longer stand the political pressure that came to bear.
This then brings me to the recent crowning of a new paramount chief for the Biriwa Chiefdom in Bombali district. This Chiefdom comprises nine section and the Limba occupy¡¦s seven sections. The Mandingoes occupy one section which is Kairinneh. The remaining section has a mixture of Mandingoes, Fulas, Lokos and Limbas. This explains why Mandingos have never won a chieftency election in the Chiefdom. Because as stranger, they do not meet the requirement which basically says, only people from ruling houses must contest. The now crowned chief Dr. Sheriff claims his grandmother was married to one of the Limba chiefs decades ago so it was right for him to be chief.
He knows too well that the lineage to the chieftency is paternal. So, in present circumstances since Tejan Kabba is corrupt he instructed the manipulation of the tribal authorities lists in the gazette which resulted in 36 names from the Limbas missing-out. And 22 names from the Mandingoes added into the list. The Limbas wrote a protest letter to the government but the letter was merely put aside. The Limbas then realizing that the whole issue was being politicized, sough-out and injunction at the high court against Dr. Sheriff candidacy. The Limbas appeared in court and presented their case and Dr. Sheriff failed to appear. His absence could have been seen in any civilized country as a blatant contempt of court. But it would surprise you to know that the matter was thrown out of court.
Tejan Kabba with his arrogance instructed his minister to go ahead with the crowing exercise by hook or by crook.
Attempts to do this met with strong resistance from the Limbas resulting in death and injuries. The situation became very messy but instructions were issued and from the presidents office asking the NEC boss Miss Thorpe to provide voting materials for the exercise. Miss. Thorpe who was part of a delegation to the community and chairman for one of the sessions refused to provide the materials on the following grounds.
1. That the constitution under section 32 mandates the NEC to conduct all elections in Sierra Leone. 2. That the elections cannot go ahead when an injunction was hanging. 3. Conducting any elections in the current atmosphere would be recipe for chaos. 4. The list of tribal authorities be reviewed.
The above not with standing, the provincial secretary for the South like a sycophant went ahead and conducted the elections on Saturday, 12th August. A group of 150 well armed OSD personnel barricaded the venue keeping everybody else at bay, except Dr. Sheriff and his 132 TAS. The other candidate and their well over 300 tribal authorities (TAS) were left out.
It would appear as if Tejan Kabba is in a hurry to make a Mandingo chief no matter what his level of education one would except him to be intelligent enough that the situation he has created would only precipitate chaos, the chiefdom ungovernable the SLPP would never win a seat in that chiefdom expect through rigging which would be disastrous, he is taking this country back to civil unrest. This is just an example of how the 2007 elections would be like. Tejan Kabba in reconstituting the National procurement authority has appointed a Mandingo as Director. The chairman of board of director is also a Mandingo. This is complete Nepotism, tribalism and corruption.
Even the generally acclaimed NACSA is a very corrupt place. Officers in that place receive commission for every structure completed. The best thing for this country is to kick this corrupt and tribalistic government out of power and any other future government would recind what is in place now.
The people¡¦s power is mightier. We know they would fight had to stay in power but no wonder why this government has refused to get rid of the criminal libel laws and the death penalty out of the law books.
They want a state of fear to continue to pervade the air. It is then important that those who have brought us this far must never bury their heads in the sand and allow this country to go back into drains.
Subject: MR. JOHN LEIGH, WE RESPECT YOUR CHOICE BUT DISAGREE
From: Albert Moinina
To: All
Date Posted: 23:42:02 11/01/06 ()
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MR. JOHN LEIGH WRITES:
¡§Berewa, it is my carefully considered opinion that he is far more qualified, more than 100 times more qualified in fact, for the office of President of Sierra Leone in succession to President Kabbah than your flunky man - Papa's precious, lovely little baby boy spoilt brat yap-yap talker with an arrogant flunky background.¡¨
MOININA WRTIES:
Your considered opinion is as good as mine. Needless to repeat my opinion about your candidate here but in any event I completely disagree with you. Mr. Leigh, it is our individual rights to choose whosoever we want to support. I have even said that I admire your loyalty to your PARTY. I think your belief that people attack you because of your support for your party in my humble and frank opinion is wrong. THE SOLE REASON PEOPLE, I WOULD SAY ARE DISAPPOINTED AND COME HARD ON YOUR SUPPORT FOR BEREWA, IS FOR THE THINGS YOU WROTE ABOUT THIS SLPP ADMINISTRATION AND IN SOME INSTANCES ABOUT BEREWA THAT ARE SO SERIOUS AND FOR YOU TO COME AND SUPPORT THE SAME BEREWA IS UNIMAGINABLE.
DO YOU REALIZE THAT YOUR ALLEGATIONS AGAINST BEREWA AND KABBAH ARE A 100 TIMES MORE SERIOUS THAN THE FLUNKY LAWYER / LEADER ¡§JOKES¡¨ YOU MAKE ABOUT CHARLES MARGAI? I will not remind you of your allegations which I believe you are quite aware of. This is no politricks I am playing but just stating the fact.
Mr. Leigh, don¡¦t you think ¡§papa¡¦s precious, lovely little boy spoilt brat¡¨ is lucky to have a Papa that cares for him? Are we not suppose to love our kids and should we not in fact be emulating Papa and his son rather ridicule him as you do?
Is it not the same ¡§yap-yap¡¨ talk that put you on the world stage during AFRC interregnum?
¡§Flunky man¡¨ ¡V Somebody on this forum recent asked you, if Charles is a flunky lawyer why would you even consider or blame him for not representing Norman?
If he is a flunky lawyer, why an intelligent person like Gorlie and his well educated family recruited Charles to represent him when he stands a chance of losing his life. Mind you I understand Gorlie¡¦s dad is a judge or lawyer himself. Correct me if I am wrong.
MR. JOHN LEIGH WRITES:
Merely because I critized my party or complained about a mokey wok babu eat culture within my party does not mean I cannot endorse him. Nor does it mean I should support a real dunce for the office of president. Why should I support your PMDC? There will never be a good reason.
MOININA:
I am not an official, spokes person and not even a member yet but a supporter of PMDC. I would say this, support Berewa and the SLPP by all means and I do not believe ANYBODY is forcing or threatening you to support PMDC. The only thing I believe PMDC supporters are doing is disagree with your position, defend their party and by so doing hope they will win people who may be skeptical or supporters of other parties. This MUST AND SHOULD not be construed as a force or threat in anyway. I believe, we have not gone beyond our rights nor violated your own.
For me personally, it is not about the SLPP but the leader they have chosen. I don¡¦t play party loyalty, but country wise. If PMDC is to choose a leader that I do not believe in, I will reconsider. For now, Charles F. Margai Interim Leader has my undivided support.
MR. JOHN LEIGH WRITES:
At least Solo-B passed from Form Four to Form Five at CKC and graduated with his class with "O" Levels, solely on his own power with no clout pressed by Papa Apahta.
MOININA WRITES:
What is the relevance of this? Where is your evidence? And even if true we are talking about over 30 years ago? Is Papa still finding clients for ¡§papa¡¦s precious¡¨? Did Papa approach you or someone asking his precious to represent Norman at the Special Court? Was Papa also involved in Gorlie¡¦s case? I guess this flunky Charles must be very lucky that he always has Papa. Is Papa behind the sweeping support he has received this very short time he has formed his flunky, dunce party?
MR. JOHN LEIGH WRITES:
¡§Solo-B then went on to College on his own effort and power; and graduated on his on sweat. Finally, he passed his WRITTEN English Bar Finals on his first attempt without the intervention of condescending 'Affirmative Action' Holy Fathers upon a second attempt.
Hence, Solo-B's bar pass was genuine, not a flunky afirmative action pass allowed for donkey dunces.¡¨
MOININA WRITES:
President Mogabe is considered one of the most educated presidents in the world. See where Zimbabwe is heading? At one time Sierra Leone was said to have the most educated Cabinet in the world, but that was the time Sierra Leone reached its nadir in almost everything. I strongly suggest SLPP to use this as a campaign against Charles. This will really help you win the election by 99.9%, stay the course my brothers.
MR. JOHN LEIGH WRITES:
Moreover, VP belongs to the SLPP - my party - a party that was openly formed in public in the bright sunlight glare of daylight amidst prying public eyes.
MOININA WRITES:
I agree with you. The ¡§CONBENTION¡¨ in Makeni during which Berewa was elected was equally held ¡§in public in the bright sunlight glare of daylight amidst prying public eyes¡¨. The rest is history which can be read at http://www.changesierraleone.org/bio.asp written by Mr. John Leigh.
MR. JOHN LEIGH WRITES:
SLPP is in no way like that flunky party of remedials and flunkies, set up in corner-corner style, secretly behind close doors with disbarred lawyers, tombo-dumbo crook-dummies, discredited politicians, remedials and flunkies and with the public never invited.
And I have dealth with Solo-B directly beginning in 1991. Your man sent tombo-dumbos to recruit him in 2005. He must be brain dead.
MOININA WRITES:
True and take my suggestion to use this as a campaign against PMDC. Besides, the SLPP is the only party in the world to have ¡§CONBENTION¡¨. Your man Berewa recently said PMDC is formed out of frustration. I agree with him 100%.
Frustration in what? CONBENTION, CORRUPTION, WATERMELON POLITICS, MARGINALIZATION, UNINTERRUPTED BLACKOUT, POOR INFRASTRUCTURES, MANIPULATION, DODGING DIFFICULT QUESTIONS, INTIMIDATING PEOPLE ASKING DIFFICULT QUESTIONS, IRRESPONSIBILITY, NOT BEING FRANK ABOUT THEIR PREVIOUS COMMITMENTS (BEREWA NEVER PROMISED 24 HR ELECTRICITY) ETC.
Take care Mr. Leigh as we disagree with your position, but please understand our FRUSTRATIONS and why we think Berewa is the worst candidate amongst the three. In any event, we are still brothers irrespective which party or candidate you support. It is your choice and we have made ours. At least we are blessed, we have choices to make. Until then, stay blessed.
Subject: Re: MR. JOHN LEIGH, WE RESPECT YOUR CHOICE BUT DISAGREE
From: New Delhi
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Date Posted: 20:27:18 11/02/06 ()
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Hey Albert,
I met you in Delhi, India yesterday. I will call you tonight. What are you doing in India? Are you a business man? Anyway, take care and hopefully I will see you again in Delhi.
Subject: Re: MR. JOHN LEIGH, WE RESPECT YOUR CHOICE BUT DISAGREE
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:14:32 11/02/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. Moinina:
Thanks for your response to my rebuttal to Moijue defending my endorsement of Solo-B as our next president come 2007. I will now like to provide my own perspectives to some of the points you’ve argued opposing my said rebuttal.
1. You’ve argued that: “THE SOLE REASON PEOPLE, I WOULD SAY ARE DISAPPOINTED AND COME HARD ON YOUR SUPPORT FOR BEREWA, IS FOR THE THINGS YOU WROTE ABOUT THIS SLPP ADMINISTRATION AND IN SOME INSTANCES ABOUT BEREWA THAT ARE SO SERIOUS AND FOR YOU TO COME AND SUPPORT THE SAME BEREWA IS UNIMAGINABLE.”
My answer to the above is that the reason why PMDC people take my endorsement of Mr. Berewa so hard is because they counted their chickens before they were hatched and are now badly disappointed because one of their fundamental calculations blew up in their faces. PMDC people were cocksure that I had no choice but jump into their camp because of my reputation, buttressed by my heavy and persistent criticisms of the current SLPP Administration over several years, as well as the wrongs I have endured within the party.
My analysis is that PMDC is misled by blind, vaulting ambition, viz: “No man of a woman born will stop me from becoming the next president of SLeone”.
Your people never understood the subtle but deep yearning for reform within the SLPP, nor the mentality of the majority of our voters.
Having endured mal-governance, extreme poverty, backwardness and war for many years, voters are looking for a safe haven. An individual who has been in SLPP, APC, NUP, SLPP, NUP, SLPP and now PMDC and who descended from a failed prime ministership that deposited SLPP in the political wilderness for 30 years, does not have the credibility of leading the people unto the safe harbor they desire. So, our people seek to return to base and reform the SLPP.
This mentality is nationwide: North, South, East and West, both genders, all religions, all age groups, the employed, the under-employed and the unemployed, etc.
Further, after seeing the way certain individuals went about forming their new political party and knowing those in the PMDC’s inner circle, many have concluded that it is the same old afro-politrics they want to be liberated from. That’s my take on this issue.
2. The next point I’d like to rebut is this one: “Mr. Leigh, don’t you think papa’s precious, lovely little boy spoilt brat” is lucky to have a Papa that cares for him? Are we not suppose to love our kids and should we not in fact be emulating Papa and his son rather ridicule him as you do?”
My answer is this: all parents should love their children deeply, always be attentive to their developmental needs and so must help their children to develop and mature properly.
Parents must not spoil their children so they flunk out of school or become exceedingly arrogant or leave them with the mentality but without the necessary cultural underpinning that they must always automatically lead and be fickle-minded in a whim if they failed to get what they believe is rightfully theirs.
3. The next question I will address is this: “Is it not the same ‘yap-yap’ talk that put you on the world stage during AFRC interregnum?”
My answer is a big fat NO! First, I did not seek the situation. It was thrust upon me must unexpectedly. Second, the issues today and my role then are completely different. It was war-and peace in my time and I represented an overthrown government. My objective was the overthrow of the over- throwers and the re-establishment of the duly elected government that sent me to Washington.
Your man is seeking to prove that no man of a woman born is good enough for the next presidency of SLeone other than him. Rubbish!
4. I will now respond to your next question which is: “Somebody on this forum recent asked you, if Charles is a flunky lawyer why would you even consider or blame him for not representing Norman?”
My response is this: I ignored the above question from the ‘Somebody’ because it was based on a flawed rendering of the written record. But since my non-response seems to bother you a lot, here is my take.
First, I never considered Mr. Margai for representing or not representing Chief Norman. Second, I never blamed him for not representing Chief Norman. The issue I raised was what Chief Norman complained to me about; namely, your man wanted $50,000 up front in cash before taking Chief Norman’s case.
Please note that one of the persistent problems between PMDC people and myself centers around the basic comprehension of the English Language as plainly written. I hope you will in future help me to address this very chronic but unnecessary problem. Thank you.
5. Again, you’ve asked, “If he is a flunky lawyer, why an intelligent person like Gorlie and his well educated family recruited Charles to represent him when he stands a chance of losing his life. Mind you I understand Gorlie’s dad is a judge or lawyer himself. Correct me if I am wrong.”
I’ll answer as follows: Please ask the Gorlies for their choice. But let’s face it, the legal establishment in SLeone is not known for its intellectual excellence and innovativeness.
Most cases drag on for years and years and despite plane and helicopter crashes, sunk vessels, unending road accidents, commercial holdups, plunder of diamonds, our legal profession has yet to innovate solutions to address those catastrophic repeat problems. Your man is part of that very dull heritage.
6. Your argued that: “The only thing I believe PMDC supporters are doing is disagree with your position, defend their party and by so doing hope they will win people who may be skeptical or supporters of other parties. This MUST AND SHOULD not be construed as a force or threat in anyway. I believe, we have not gone beyond our rights nor violated your own.”
My counter-argument is this: I view the whole Wha Hala with your people quite differently. PMDC people are very much upset because they believe that I belong to them and that I have no right to remain in SLPP and support SLPP’S party leader for president because of my public stance. They also do not like my exposing the unflattering backgrounds of some of their key people and frequently poking fun at them.
Hence, PMDC has been attacking me since very early March when I disagreed with an erroneous press report that rivals were plotting to assassinate Mr. Margai. I was writing from personal field experience having just returned the day before after spending a month traveling in all four provinces of SLeone.
Again those attacks were based on wholesale miscomprehension of written English. The miscomprehension continues as recently as earlier this week.
And after I endorsed Mr. Berewa as my choice for president, PMDC sought to blast the hell out of me. But most of what I came across was flunky dunce argumentation and English miscomprehension by mostly people who have been out of SLeone for years. My attackers are so dense they would not know what flip-flopping is even if it bit them in the backside in broad daylight.
7. I will here respond to your concerns about my very dim view of Mr. Margai’s background by centering them around this your contention:
“ President Mogabe is considered one of the most educated presidents in the world. See where Zimbabwe is heading? At one time Sierra Leone was said to have the most educated Cabinet in the world, but that was the time Sierra Leone reached its nadir in almost everything. I strongly suggest SLPP to use this as a campaign against Charles. This will really help you win the election by 99.9%, stay the course my brothers.”
In numerous earlier postings, I have explained why a high school flunked out leader would not make a good role model for our school children as well as the need for our elected president to have a background that showed deep respect for our persevering teachers. I have explained that the way of poverty for most Sierra Leoneans is going to be through good education.
Hence, we need educated people to lead us. I will not repeat more of those arguments at this time.
I have also explained to you that while a good solid education is a necessity in this day and age, education is not the be all and the end all for successful nation-building. Good education without the proper ‘home training” and culture underpinning it, is unlikely to have a positive impact in a backward society.
Further, I have told you and others that the high education in the SLeone cabinet in Siaka Stevens’ days was not possessed by the leader but only by his underlings. That was the problem. Hence, I have stated in this forum that I will never serve under a less achieving/educated individual than me.
Please review my articles in Cocorioko and Forum about the Frog Doctor and others for the details of why a leader with good education is good for SLeone.
8. Your point that: “The ‘CONBENTION’ in Makeni during which Berewa was elected was equally held in public in the bright sunlight glare of daylight amidst prying public eyes. The rest is history which can be read at http://www.changesierraleone.org/bio.asp written by Mr. John Leigh” is well taken.
Hence, the deep concern within the party and even the country about the future of our republic. Because the affair was public, the whole country now knows what went wrong in Makeni as well as the different approaches people are taking to deal with those issues. Some have decided to cut and run. I have chosen to stay and work for reform from within.
Unlike the founding of SLPP and the Makeni politrics, the establishment of the PMDC was in complete secrecy at the dead of night. Under cover! We do not know how a party that professes it will wage war against corruption if elected has a twice-disbarred lawyer for corruption in the United States as one of Mr. Margai’s closest advisers - as are remedial people with odious backgrounds I call mundo tombo dumbo munkus.
The voting public needs an explanation as well as an opportunity to review the bio-data of each and every presidential aspirants and the basis for decision making in PMDC.
9. Your statement that “Your man Berewa recently said PMDC is formed out of frustration. I agree with him 100%” is a half-truth.
The full truth Mr. Berewa talked about is the frustration of your man loosing in the Makeni leadership contests and not getting his way. This man’s frustration is not new and is purely personal.
We know about his personal frustration in 1995 when he switched to NUP because he did not win SLPP’S party leader position. We know about his personal frustration in 1996 when he begged to rejoin SLPP because he decided that there was no future for him in NUP.
We also know of his switch to NUP in 1996 when he failed to get an SLPP Government appointment but switch only when a vacancy occurred in the NUP parliamentary list that would have personally benefited him. He left SLPP to rejoin NUP.
Additionally, we know of his frustrated attempt to seek the 2002 SLPP party leader position for himself and then offered to resign in anger. Now we know of his frustration and my frustration (see www.changesierraleone.org) in Makeni.
Needless to say, we’ve approached our differences and frustrations very differently: Reform from within vs. Splinter; patience vs. margo-margo. With him it is always “me, me, me, me and me” in everything political he does. Personally, I realize that civilization is a very slow process and change is better for all in the long-run if the people accept change willingly.
CONCLUSION
With this, I believe I have answered responsively the majority of the key points you’ve raised. I now like to sign off on this subject. Thank you most kindly. -JL
Subject: Re: MR. JOHN LEIGH, WE RESPECT YOUR CHOICE BUT DISAGREE
From: Patriot in Training
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Date Posted: 15:41:17 11/02/06 ()
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Education is good but what happened to wisdom. I guess "learning is better than silver and gold" Thats probably why we as sierra leoneans end up with end up with all these educated thieves and the foreigners with all the silver, gold and diamonds. As one reads these arguments back and forth, one can only suffice that the reflections of the arguments are indeed personal. Instead of our educated political elders engaging in vibrant political discourse, they vie for political appointments/office through politricking. It is from a vibrant political discourse about our nations development that the people get enlightened and attitudes change creating an environment for electing good leadership. Are the people of sierra leone really listening to you all? sierra Leoneans have been patient too long. We know that the patient dog gets the fat bone, however the early dog gets the meat.Patience may be an option for a few but the majority cannot wait to live any longer. This time around the youth(largest population bracket) will hold all you political elders/leaders accountable. Get your acts together.
Subject: Graduate of Havard University
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 23:07:15 11/01/06 ()
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One amuses at God's is creation. Education should be a key.
Subject: For Ambassador John Leigh and Mr. Mohamed A. Jalloh
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 22:39:12 11/01/06 ()
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Greetings my brothers and sisters. Mr. Mohamed A. Jalloh and His Excellency Ambassador Leigh thank you for taking time to read this piece. You are among Sierra Leoneans I admire distinguished character you have manifested both on this forum and outside here. It is in light of such characters that I hold you. It would be hurtful, on my part, to see you go down the path you headed in your recent discussion. I fervently believe that the root-cause of the anger manifested in those postings was miss understanding. Therefore, I would take this opportunity to appeal to your consciences, to use your good offices to continue setting the brighter examples that gave cause for the admiration may have for you.
Also, remember that Sierra Leone is this way it is today because of the many who think that she is a monarchy, and that they being princes and princesses of this monarchy therefore, their views and actions must not be questioned, and that, as opposed to a democratic leadership, in a country where we are all stakeholders, they must be idolized rather than respected for their characters. These attitudes, coupled with the many embittered hostilities afflicted on our people broiled and pave the way for deep-seated anger and frustration that was manifested in the confused, atrocious, brutal or rather inhumane nature of the war in Sierra Leone. Remember that in that war our people, our people's eyes were gouged out, throats were sliced, women were raped, children the ages of eight and nine-year-old were enslaved to shoot and kill their very mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters. Worst of it all, innocent children the ages between six months to a two-year-old had their arms amputated. That was the saddest chapter in our history. With that in mind, we should be very careful to distinguish between campaign tactics and antagonism.
Ambassador Leigh I have vouched for you since I started posting on Sierra Leonean forums, the AfricaOnline Forum since I started contributing there in 1997. I am unsure if I have vouched for a Sierra Leonean to that magnitude. I did so based on principles for the manner in which you presented yourself to me when I met you in the Sierra Leone Embassy, where you were the Ambassador. Nonetheless, it is best that I caution all Sierra Leoneans, you inclusive to check the democratic nature of our responses in political matters pertaining to Sierra Leone, knowing that we, all of us, have the obligation to help shape the political mindset of Sierra Leone regardless of our affiliation. That is if we believe that these political parties or aspirants we affiliate ourselves with are ready to transform Sierra Leone to a true democracy, where the actual practice of such a principle, in its actual meaning, will help Sierra Leone coil out of the many setbacks and undemocratic practices that gave way to the very monarchic sentiments or ideologies that I made mention above.
You have vouched for Hon. Berewa for reasons best known to you, reasons unknown to many Sierra Leoneans . It is those reasons, if I were in your shoes, I would bring fort, in my quest to captivate the attention of forumites, in an attempt to or in order to win them over to support the candidate of my choice, which in your case is V.P. Berewa.
A lot of people have been making the mistake, assuming that endorsing candidates guarantees overwhelming acceptance; and because these candidates have held positions in the past, that whoever they speak to must accept these candidates because they, the endorsers, are of the impression that all should know what they know about the candidates. As they have upheld good impressions or have received some form of promises from these candidates, opposing them will be detrimental to the former's future well being, as such, they would risk putting themselves first and the country last. Sierra Leone being the way she is, where many people are suffering, this mentalities of endorsers have resulted in rift of ideas that sometimes lead to bitter arguments if not fracases.
There are most people on this forum, in the Diaspora, who when they return to the country all they see are the sad state of affairs in the country. Do they have a right to speak, of course they do. As politicians who, if we indeed had democracy, must be patient to explain situation, give concrete reasons why we must believe the opposite what we already see in existence. Telling us they are good when we see wrongs in the country will be considered an insult to our mentality. Therefore you politicians must be very tactful in convincing people especially those who are as educated as you are and who have the rights you have to govern Sierra Leone and believe they can do a better job from those who have been serving Sierra Leone since independence and keep on telling the same stories.
There is no way many people, Sierra Leoneans and foreigners alike will be able to distinguish the innocence and or guilt of Vice President Berewa from either the wrongs A.P.C. did or the mishandling of the state of affairs by the S.L.P.P. In the first place, he was Attorney-General under the A.P.C. and you stated that he is subservient and incapable of antagonizing President Kabbah because he is not in control. Does that imply therefore that he was quiet under the A.P.C. regime, in a way, nursing or grooming his career or ambition to become Vice President and an ultimate President of Sierra Leone which is why he has been quiet? Many people who remember the history of Sierra Leone will assume that he is a man for himself and that because he is quiet until he gets what he wants, he will be quiet even when made President, as somebody is quiet to see corruption go to the lowest ebb in Sierra Leone as if no one is speaking. You have to convince whoever questions his integrity to govern Sierra Leone. You criticized him as an expression of your anger and as your right. Therefore, others have a right to criticize him when they see it fit because that is why he took public office. If he did not wish to be criticized he would have farmed. Even that he will be criticized.
What I thought you would have done was to educate us on what contributions, positive ones towards, that he made towards Sierra Leone's development. recounting peoples' credentials as criteria we should consider as such people's contributions towards Sierra Leone is inadequate and misleading. No. these are personal pursuits that has very little, if any, to add to Sierra Leone's development. We need concrete evidences such of positive involvements helping Sierra Leonean people when they were sick by sending medicine to Kailahun Hospital, for instance before he came to power, organisations he was a member of that help elevate the spirit of Sierra Leoneans, infrastructure he helped construct such hospitals or even as a kid volunteering efforts he made, where he could not contribute financially. Something that helped towards growth in some part of Sierra Leone will help us see him and where he is coming from. We would be able to see his obstacles towards contributing or raising his voice against abnormalities in Sierra Leone. Dr. Abdulai Conteh kicked against Siaka Stevens manipulating the Constitution to make Momoh President of Sierra Leone. Whether he was right or wrong, it goes in history that he stood-up for what was right. Show us what Hon. Berewa did in that light, why we must believe he did not wish to contradict President Kabbah and his administration. Some action of Changing the mindset of a people in Sierra Leone that led to some such of growth. But we have hardly received those information from most who hailed their aspirants. It is the place for those who endorse them to comfort us, be patient with us because there is every need for us to be angry, disappointed or what have you, because they, those who have held the realm of power, who came to us, indicating that they are capable to run what is ours: Sierra Leone. If they do not deliver as promised, we need answers, which the endorsers must be tactful, diplomatic in handling their information, manner in which they relay these information, knowing that we are pissed-off, to get to change our views with positive ones. I think there is a way diplomats are trained to handle these situations. I know you are capable of that.
Trust me I knew Diplomats. Dr. Tom Oballeh was a diplomat. Ambassador Olu Harden was my friend, a Diplomat. I worked at State House from 1987 to 1991, in the President's office therefore, I had frequent contacts with them: Diplomats. But Dr. Tom Oballeh I knew when he was studying in London for his doctorate degree, doing his dissertation in the Seventies. He is an diplomat indeed.
So therefore gentlemen, we can effectively covey our messages and become better understood when we do not resort to insults. That is why I am so impressed by the trend of the forum lately. People are using more refined ways to communicate ad reading your writings and the way and manner you express yourselves is what is expected of the Sierra Leoneans I know. Bravo.
Therefore, I admonish you two to resolve the issue amicably in the interest of the country you both claim to love.
Thank you for indulging me.
Subject: Re: For Ambassador John Leigh and Mr. Mohamed A. Jalloh
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:46:26 11/02/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. Bambay Kamara:
Thanks for your concerns and for attempting to be a peacemaker in this forum. Unfortunately, your conclusion that a misunderstanding is behind my differences with Mr. Mohamed A. Jalloh is not accurate at all.
I was clearly offended by his phony commendation and by his repeated attempts to put words and conclusions in my mouth in his failed attempt to savage my support for the presidential candidate of my choice.
If Mr. Jalloh writes sensibly and answers his own multiple questions instead of seeking answers and confirmations from me, I will respond to him - whether or not I agree with him - in the same way I respond to forumites of respect such as: Messrs. Allie Rainbow, Formeh Kamara, Albert Moinina and Moijue Kaikai, etc.
As for your reminder “that Sierra Leone is this way it is today because of the many who think that she is a monarchy, and that they being princes and princesses of this monarchy therefore, their views and actions must not be questioned, and that, as opposed to a democratic leadership, in a country where we are all stakeholders, they must be idolized rather than respected for their characters” I like to share my own views with you.
I don’t think Mr. Berewa wants to be idolized or believes he should not be questioned. I traveled with him for the better part of one month this year in Port Loko and Kono Districts and I witnessed him answer questions in a professional manner from the various audiences – all the time. The problem in the Diaspora is the arrogant airs and the rude ways questions are asked as well as the irrelevancy or low-grade nature of the questions that are not directed at genuine nation-building. But in fact, they are directed to insult and embarrass. It is not a good approach.
As for me, as long as the query is presented in the proper manner and is not dunce-like and is appropriate for my attention, I will respond respectfully and contribute to the debate. But let the word go forth that I cannot stomach pompous inquisitors. I don’t want to be treated the way a salesman would treat an unsuspecting target in attempting to close a questionable sale.
If anyone attempts such, as I believe Mr. Jalloh did, I will throw the whole thing on his face or completely ignore him or both.
Your recommendation that I “have vouched for Hon. Berewa for reasons best known to you, reasons unknown to many Sierra Leoneans. It is those reasons, if I were in your shoes, I would bring fort, in my quest to captivate the attention of forumites, in an attempt to or in order to win them over to support the candidate of my choice, which in your case is V.P. Berewa” is exactly what I have been doing.
I have explained again and again everything behind my decision to choose Berewa over the other two. But people are plain angry because they are disappointed with my desicion. And the main reason they are disappointed is because they expected me to jump into their camp – something I have stated over and over again that I will not do. So now, they have settled to do insults – sour grapes insults – upon me.
You next discussed the following issue thus: “In the first place, he (Berewa) was Attorney-General under the A.P.C. and you stated that he is subservient and incapable of antagonizing President Kabbah because he is not in control. Does that imply therefore that he was quiet under the A.P.C. regime, in a way, nursing or grooming his career or ambition to become Vice President and an ultimate President of Sierra Leone which is why he has been quiet?
First, Mr. Berewa did not serve as attorney general under the APC. Second, I did not say VP Berewa is subservient and incapable of antagonizing President Kabbah. I said VP Berewa is duty-bound to be loyal to and avoid public feuds with his president. That is the standard code of conduct for VPs the world over.
Otherwise, we end up with a mess similar or worse off than the loud, nasty present mess in Nigeria between the president and his VP.
I will now address two further point and will call it a day on this matter:
First, I disagree with you regarding your position that “What I thought you would have done was to educate us on what contributions, positive ones towards, that he made towards Sierra Leone's development.” My own view is this information must await the campaign. Let him blow his own horn.
Second, your point about “ recounting peoples' credentials as criteria we should consider as such people's contributions towards Sierra Leone is inadequate and misleading. No. these are personal pursuits that has very little, if any, to add to Sierra Leone's development. We need concrete evidences such of positive involvements helping Sierra Leonean people when they were sick by sending medicine to …………………….”
I don’t agree with you at all. The public ought to see the bio-data of each candidate. Bio-data are important because that say much about the quality of the candidate. Sending medicines to a hospital should not be a top criterion for leadership. There are more important things like negotiating and helping to manage the Lome Accords, etc. Again, these are matters best left to the candidates’ campaign.
I have published the full and complete reasons for my endorsing Berewa. That’s enough from my own perspective. The problem is that some badly disappointed people had erroneously calculated that I had no choice but to line up behind their man. Because I failed to do so and did the opposite by supporting his opponent, these disappointed political opportunists are raving mad. That’s the sole problem between me and the Jallohs of PMDC.
Thank you for your help. Your friend - JL
Subject: Re: For Ambassador John Leigh, the "Conbention" Goat
From: Woozy Flunky
To: All
Date Posted: 17:51:57 11/02/06 ()
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"The problem is that some badly disappointed people had erroneously calculated that I had no choice but to line up behind their man. Because I failed to do so and did the opposite by supporting his opponent, these disappointed political opportunists are raving mad. That’s the sole problem between me and the Jallohs of PMDC."
John Leigh, the real problem is that you nar crase man.
I am dead serious when I say you should check youreself into the nearest crase yard so that you would start being cured of your lunatic thoughts. Leigh, where do you get these crase thougts from, Pa? Why would anyone want a failed politician like you to ruin his reputation, or that of his party, by being seen to associate with you? Do you remember how crazy you looked in the Awarenes Times picture of you, sweating crazily with your red neck-tie choking you, as the caption said, like a goat with a rope around its neck?
Now, like a lunatic, you say you have a "sole problem" with the "Jallohs of the PMDC!" What Jallohs" are are you talking about? Leigh, you blind too, bra? can't you see what everyonne sees, eh bra? We who have been reading Mohm Jalloh's posts here can see clearly that the man does not care about any party or politician one bit. Don't take my word for it. Ask the man you have told us is intelligent, Allie Formeh Kamara. Last week, Formeh wrote that exact statement right here, gbangba oday.
So, Leigh, a man you say is intelligent, Formeh, says that jalloh is not a supporter of any party because he writes against any corrupt politician he sees -- whether the corrupt politician is APC, NPRC, PMDC, SLPP, etc. You on the other hand, whom nobody has called intelligent (not even yourself -- heheheh) say Jalloh is PMDC.
So, who shall we believe? Formeh, who you say is intelligent or you whom no one has said is intelligent? Do you now see how stupid en crase you are, Leigh?
No wonder you can't face jalloh's questions: Instead, you run, hide, you dae twist en turn, and tell us lies but you never answer the man's simple quesions because you are much too dishonest to admit what we all can see. Bra Leigh, Jalloh makes you look like the dunce you truly know you are. We can tell you know you are a dunce by how you try deperately to call others names (like calling Charles Margai a flunky, dunce, etc). Me ar tink say nar you nar di true dunce -- with your red necktie slowly choking your bulging throat like the rope around the neck of a goat being led to slaughter (the SLPP "Conbention"). Which of course everyone knew you were. Everyone except the crase man himself -- you.
Subject: Re: For Ambassador John Leigh and Mr. Mohamed A. Jalloh
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
To: All
Date Posted: 04:23:07 11/02/06 ()
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Bambay Lans Kamara wrote on November 01, 2006:
"Also, remember that Sierra Leone is this way it is today because of the many who think that she is a monarchy, and that they being princes and princesses of this monarchy therefore, their views and actions must not be questioned, ...."
Bambay Lans Kamara:
Thank you for your well-reasoned posting yesterday. As usual, you have unerringly put your finger on the virtually uniform character flaw of SL's rulers. That defect consists of the wilful refusal of SL's politicians to account for their actions in office to their real employer -- the people of SL who pay their salaries other emoluments.
We have seen this display of wanton public immorality throughout the serial rape of our country by those who place their puny self-interest above the infinitely larger interest of the people of SL. From former President Siaka Stevens and his selfish imposition of a one-party state in a bid to perpetuate his selfish hold on power, to the current president, Ahmad Tejan Kabbah's selfish refusal to hold himself and his like-minded Vice President, Solomon Berewa, responsible for the internationally notorious corruption of the SLPP government they lead and which has condemned millions of S/Leoneans to a life of unrelenting poverty, the story is the same: The shameful triumph of purely selfish personal interest over the interest of the people of SL.
Which brings us to the crucial problem you identified in your statement quoted above, and the solution to it you alluded to when you wrote: "There are most people on this forum, in the Diaspora, who when they return to the country all they see are the sad state of affairs in the country. Do they have a right to speak, of course they do."
I agree with you entirely.
Therefore, as I have done for the past 27 years, I will continue to exercise my inalienable right to speak out openly against the extremely harmful and utterly selfish actions of the unpatriotic few among us which have sentenced millions of S/Leoneans to a life of needless poverty. It is a patriotic duty which I join you in humbly recommending that each and every fellow S/Leonean courageously and decorously perform to the fullest extent under the law.
No less than the future of our country depends upon us -- all of us -- performing that solemn duty to our long pillaged and plundered homeland, and its needlessly long suffering people.
Thank you for your compliment. Kindly accept my commendation upon your latest display of the sharp intellect and patriotism for which I have always admired you.
Subject: Re: For Ambassador John Leigh and Mr. Mohamed A. Jalloh
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:38:09 11/02/06 ()
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Greetings my brothers and sisters. His Excellency Ambassador John E.
Leigh and Mr. Mohamed A. Jalloh thank you very much for responding
and shedding light on how we must develop as a nation. Basically,
when I read through your postings what I see is two patriots wishing to
see their country become a better nation but many reasons have stack-
piled, serving as a stumbling block toward this dream, causing us to
vent anger, probably, at the wrong people.
Mr. Jalloh, I can assure you, has not been doing what he does, writing
about the problems of Sierra Leone for reasons based on any political
affiliations nor scolding you in a bid to promote the PMDC or A.P.C.
From my observation since I started reading his postings and his
articles, these endeavors have been purely on patriotic front rather
than politically-affiliated platform. I might be wrong.
Nonetheless, the country belongs to all of us and until we give ear to
one another, discuss the issues with civility, there will be many stones
ahead. Which brings me to your statement: "I have explained again and
again everything behind my decision to choose Berewa over the other
two. But people are plain angry because they are disappointed with my
desicion. And the main reason they are disappointed is because they
expected me to jump into their camp – something I have stated over
and over again that I will not do. So now, they have settled to do
insults – sour grapes insults – upon me."
This was exactly what I was referencing when I stated: “that Sierra
Leone is this way it is today because of the many who think that she is
a monarchy, and that they being princes and princesses of this
monarchy therefore, their views and actions must not be questioned,
and that, as opposed to a democratic leadership, in a country where we
are all stakeholders, they must be idolized rather than respected for
their characters.” I was taken an overview of what most Sierra Leoneans
think, the way they treated other Sierra Leoneans when it comes to
political matters especially, whe they are in opposing parties. However,
where there is proper education and where patriotism is our
motivation, you have a right to choose any candidate of your choice,
contest elections if you wish, vote for any candidate of your choice as
that is your right because you know what is best for you and what
legacies you would like your children to remember you by and what
future you wish to live for your children and grandchildren. That being
your right therefore, no one, civilized and or informed I mean, has the
right to even look at you the wrong way, let alone insult you. But as I
mentioned earlier, the country has gone through a lot, people have lost
a lot; in which case one expects tempers to flare. However, as you so
rightly mentioned that:
"The problem in the Diaspora is the arrogant airs and the rude ways
questions are asked as well as the irrelevancy or low-grade nature of
the questions that are not directed at genuine nation-building. But in
fact, they are directed to insult and embarrass. It is not a good
approach."
In response I would say that I cannot agree with you more. When I
came to the U.S. in 1991 I have witnessed Sierra Leoneans boasting
that such and such a Minister or functionary was booed because of
certain statements or responses they gave to questionS asked in Sierra
Leonean meetings. Indeed, I have witnessed meetings, where arrogant
airs and rude ways questions were asked as well as the irrelevancy or
low-grade nature of the questions that are not directed at genuine
nation-building was what was in operation in that meeting. Indeed,
they were directed to insult and embarrass the speakers. I was quiet
and observant but concerned. However, I concluded that we are from
different moral backgrounds (educational, and social) therefore, the
civility of approach would hardly be the same. Most are still
overwhelmed by the idea of being in a First World, which is the first
time they have had the opportunity to assemble in decent gatherings
therefore, they would want to show-off the way it was acceptable in
their environs before they came here. In some quaters one would never
say anything or act in any fashion that is considered unreasonable or
intelligent but scuh an act is accepted as bravery in others. So you see
there is that problem and many are yet to be remodified. This rude
approach to functionaries has created the divide between government
functionaries who either represent us in the Diaspora or stationed at
home that visit the Diaspora. As such, that has created such of a
vacuum and shortage in the inter-flow of ideas. We have all agreed as I
have seen it happen on Sierra Leonean forums that this is our problem.
This is the reason that has culminated into me requesting that we
change such a pattern as I see more transience in such attitudes, by by
asking the two of you and many here of your calibre, to change such
dynamics by setting the pace for intellectually refined discusses for
people in the Diaspora and at home by serving as the enviable
examples that I have known you two to be. I have gone ballistic on
many occasions because I thought responsibility is the yardstick we
measure respect.
This leads me to responding to Mr. Mohamed A. Jalloh though brief
because my sole intention is for you two to continue serving as
examples that I have so admired.
Thank you Mr. Mohamed A. Jalloh for the statement: "We have seen this
display of wanton public immorality throughout the serial rape of our
country by those who place their puny self-interest above the infinitely
larger interest of the people of SL. From former President Siaka Stevens
and his selfish imposition of a one-party state in a bid to perpetuate
his selfish hold on power, to the current president, Ahmad Tejan
Kabbah's selfish refusal to hold himself and his like-minded Vice
President, Solomon Berewa, responsible for the internationally
notorious corruption of the SLPP government they lead and which has
condemned millions of S/Leoneans to a life of unrelenting poverty, the
story is the same: The shameful triumph of purely selfish personal
interest over the interest of the people of SL."
I do agree with you that our country has been raped and change is
badly needed. It is speaking out as you have been doing, as that is our
obligation to help the country recover through education. The leaders
need more education on how the citizens feel, what they go through
because it is apparent that, if they claim they have not put the self
above Sierra Leone, that some people are not doing what is right and
that there exist loop-holes in the way things are ran, which is why the
sufferings continue to ravage the people of Sierra Leone.
I do not wish to project myself as the know it all or an imposer but our
country needs people of your caliber to make a change and a
difference from the direction it is limping. Please make that sacrifice
and note that without the sacrifice you make, doors will be closed to
the future of Sierra Leone and the future generations.
I would conclude by thanking you two for the respectful manner of
response and for indulging me. Let us take it that Sierra Leone belongs
to all of us and it is our solemn duty to make the future brighter for
the coming generations. Otherwise, they will blame our intellect
integrity. Thank you for serving Sierra Leone.
Subject: ADVICE FOR JOHN LEIGH
From: Observer
To: All
Date Posted: 17:44:39 11/01/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
John Leigh, when I read your posting where you called the highly intelligent Jalloh a "dunce," I had to laugh -- at you! You see, Leigh, you are only showing us that you are the real dunce! Check this out:
You say that Alie Formeh kamara and Allie Raimbow are intelligent. and then you say jalloh is a "dunce." But the same Formeh and Allie Rainbow have praised jalloh's intelligence on this forum as recently as last week, when Formeh told sengbe that using the word fool in relation to the very clever jalloh is wrong!
Do you see your problem? No? Well, let me help you out. If Formeh and Rainbow are intelligent, as you stated earlier today, and the same two intelligent gentlemen praise Jalloh as highly intelligent, you display only your own stupidity by referring to jalloh as a "dunce!" Kapish?
If me nar you, Pa, I would stop making a fool of myself by calling someone like jalloh who is obviously far more intelligent than you, names. Rather, I would try to learn from him by answering his highjly intelligent questions, instead of fleeing from them,. Many of us learn from every one of his articles, including the one you obviously didn't read, and yet you dared to call names. Grow up, Leigh.
Subject: Re: ADVICE FOR JOHN LEIGH
From: Kaput
To: All
Date Posted: 05:58:55 11/02/06 ()
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Message:
This certainly is Mohamed Jalloh praising himself again. John Leigh need not respond.
Subject: Re: ADVICE FOR JOHN LEIGH
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
To: All
Date Posted: 07:08:00 11/02/06 ()
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Message:
Rather than pretending to be a serious person, you should take the first step towards being considered seriously by others whose attention you vainly crave --by first taking yourself seriously.
If, and when, you duly set forth any evidence to support your unsubstantiated opinion, we will then know that you have learnt the lesson that I graciously offer you above.
Until then, there is no need to waste time on you.
Subject: Re: ADVICE FOR JOHN LEIGH
From: HHHHHHHE
To: All
Date Posted: 18:01:39 11/01/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
John Leigh is a highly inteligent fool...The only thing he ever master in NYU was exam taking...and that is it"read,cog en pass"...so I ask friends to please leave him alone.
Subject: Re: ADVICE FOR JOHN LEIGH
From: Mobutu
To: All
Date Posted: 16:31:44 11/02/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: is366.gold.ac.uk at 158.223.33.66
Message:
jumbo leigh is a dunce, munku, tombu, jumbo, flunky, stupid fool! i heard that you didn't pass your O'levels exams that is why you "FLUNKED" to America? is that true jumbo leigh?
Subject: Audit report for the Ministry of agric
From: Alie Formeh Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:30:29 11/01/06 ()
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Message:
From Standard Times
Audit Report exposes massive fraud at Agriculture Ministry
Posted by Philip Neville on Oct 31, 2006, 11:34
The executive summary report of an audit exercise conducted at the Ministry of Agriculture and Food Security for the year ending 31st December 2005 could best be described as damning. The auditors did not mince their words in stating what had gone wrong with funds provided by government and its partners for the promotion of food security and the development of the agricultural sector in the country.
While the auditors have presented their findings, the Minister of Agriculture and Food Security, Dr. Sama Mondeh is taking a defensive posture, saying that the figures are subject to scrutiny, stressing in an interview with this press that the figures stated in the report need to be verified.
The executive summary of the report reads: “…some vouchers do not have the requisite supporting documents attached to them. Payments were made that were not approved by the permanent secretary or the divisional heads in the ministry of agriculture. There are some invoices/requests that are paid more than once, that is, recycled. Majority of the MTEF/PETS 2 forms were not approved by both the programme manager and vote controller, and that the signatures of the minister and vote controller in some MTEF/PETS 2 forms do not agree with those in other forms, standing imprest and special imprest given to various units and divisions of the ministry were not retired. Most of the transactions listing submitted by the ministry do not agree with printouts from the accountant general’s department.”
“Furthermore, there is no evidence in the form of receipt for withholding tax payments deducted from suppliers invoice.”
Also, the summary notes that there are instances where payments were made without evidence of receipt from the recipients and payment vouchers not signed by recipients. “The descr1ption in some payment vouchers, commitment forms and MTEF/PETS 2 forms do not agree.”
As if the summary of the report did not throw enough light for officials of the Agriculture ministry and Dr. Sama Mondeh to fully grasp the true picture of what has been discovered and described as fraud, business has been going at the ministry as usual. For most people, especially those at the Ministry of Finance and other related ministries the level of fraud at the Ministry of Agriculture is not anything that should prick the minds of the unsuspecting public, as it is one of the survival skills officials are using to enrich themselves at the detriment of the state.
The food security programme, an initiative of President Kabbah has been hindered by the level of fraudulent activities taking place at the Ministry of Agriculture and Food Security.
“What the auditors discovered is just the tip of the iceberg,” a senior government official remarked.
Listing the amount of money received by the Ministry of Agriculture for the year ending December 31, 2005 the report noted the following:
Quarter 1 – Le 2,448,913,182.00
Quarter 2 – Le 4,115,535,162,00
Quarter 3 – Le 2,018,004,924,00
Quarter 4 – Le 5,707,403,086.90
Dr. Sama Mondeh’s defence is that Quarter 4 was not received by his ministry and that “the review of listings from the Accountant General’s Department and the Ministry of Agriculture and Food Security reveals that there are transactions/payments in the Accountant General’s Department listings that could not be traced to the ministry’s listing and vice versa.
To counter Dr. Sama Mondeh’s argument the auditors point to their analyses and findings, citing areas that called for questioning.
Under the headline “Expenses without adequate supporting documents,” the following vouchers were mentioned:
“Payment voucher K11418 – This voucher which amounted to the sum of Le 77,000,000 relating to the payment of grants and other charges for the first quarter to the National Agriculture Training Centre. We noted that the expenditure breakdown submitted relates to October 2004 and not the current quarter to which the payment relates. Also there is no other documentary evidence in the form of retirement schedule, invoices, receipt, etc., indicating how the above amount was spent.
“Payment voucher K11401 – This payment was made to Rice Research, Rokuprr being first quarter contribution. There are no documents attached to the payment voucher showing how the sum of Le 127,500,000 quarterly contribution was expended.
“Payment voucher K11405 – The sum of Le 85,00,000 was paid on the above payment voucher to Ndereh Enterprises, being 50% payment for farm tools supplied. The breakdown of the full cost of the tools is not attached to the supporting documents attached to the payment voucher.
“Payment voucher K11432 – The stock verification certificates in respect of payment of Le 7,125,00 for four (4) executive tables supplied was not attached to the payment voucher. In March 2005, payment for Le 9,500,000 was made for 50,000 polythene plastic bags. The associated delivery note relating to the polythene supplied was not attached to the payment voucher.
“Payment vouchers K11449 and L1105 – The sums of Le 6,895,000 and Le 17,100,000 were paid to Universal Tech and Advert Agency in respect of harvest period jingles and airtime on all radio stations. Receipt for the payment was not attached to the payment voucher. The amount paid is Le14, 580,000.
“Payment voucher K6355 – The above voucher relates to payment for “The Clonal Seed Garden, Pendembu, Kailahun district. The sum of Le 7,200,000 paid as wages is not adequately supported as there is no evidence that the amount was paid to the workers.
“Payment voucher K27713 – Traveling claims of Le 4,465,000 was paid on the above voucher to a number of beneficiaries, each of them was supposed to sign a list attached to the payment voucher to acknowledge receipt. However, this was not done.
“Payment vouchers K27737, K27738, K27733 and K27739. All of these vouchers stated above amounting to Le 700,000, Le 1,000,000, Le 625,000, Le 1,108,750, and Le3,500,000 don’t have MTEF/PETS 2 forms attached to them. Hence, they have been processed unauthorized.
“Payment vouchers – K6363, K6367, K6403, K6402, K11459, K11336, K11344, K11349, K11338 and K24080 –relates to the supply of fuel and lubricants to various locat1ons. Receipts were not attached to the respective payment vouchers to justify the purchase
Date Descr1ption Payment Voucher Number Amount
April 2005 Fuel and Lubricants supplied to Northern Region District Director K6363 Le 4,000,000
April 2005 Fuel and Lubricants supplied to district director – Port Loko K6367 Le 4,000,000
April 2005 Fuel and Lubricants Supplied to Veterinary Division, Kambia District. K6403 Le 1,250,00
April 2005 Fuel and Lubricants Supplied to Veterinary Division, Bombali District. K6402 Le 1,250,000
April 2005 Fuel and Lubricants Supplied to PEMSD – Bo District. K11459 Le 1,375,000
April 2005 Fuel and Oil K11305 Le 1,000,000
April 2005 Fuel and Oil K11304 Le 1,000,000
August 2005 Fuel and Oil for utility vehicle attached to district forest officer, western area K11336 Le 2,000,000
August Fuel and oil for district forest officer,
Bonthe K11344 Le 1,5000,000
August 2005 Fuel and oil for utility vehicle attached to district forest officer, western area I & II K11349 Le 1,500,000
August 2005 Fuel and oil for utility vehicle attached to district forest officer, Bombali K11338 Le 3,5000,000
August 2005 Fuel and Lubricants supplied to Division Director, Bo K24080 Le 3,000,000
“In addition, payment voucher K6402 does not contain tax clearance certificate and business registration certificate of the entity that made the supply.
“Payment voucher K6413 – This payment relates to transportation and per diem allowance of Le 1,250,000 claimed to have been paid to participants for an agricultural show in May 2004. A list showing the names of participants to whom the allowances were paid is not attached to the payment voucher.
“Payment voucher K6468 – The payment which amounted to Le 2,658,000 of which Le 1,008,000 was for fuel purchased relates to local travel. We noted that the receipt for the purchase was not attached to the payment voucher.
“Payment voucher K5174 – The sum of Le 2,850,000 was paid on the above voucher for building materials and furniture. We noted that delivery note for items supplied is not attached to the payment voucher, nor did the recipient acknowledge receipt of the payment by appending his/her signature on the voucher.
“Withholding tax payment – we observed that withholding taxes were deducted from suppliers invoices but there is no evidence in the form of receipt from the National Revenue Authority that they were paid.”
In our subsequent edition, read more about the fraud that was unearthed by the auditors. It is now evident from documents including the auditors report that the Ministry of Agriculture and Food Security with Dr. Sama Mondeh as the political head is one of the most extravagant and corrupted ministries in the country.
One can only begin to wonder how the President’s Food Security initiative would come to fruition with the level of fraudulent activities perpetuated by government officials in collusion with the minister.
Letter to
The Permanent Secretary
Ministry of Agriculture & Food Security
Youyi Building
Freetown.
Dear Sir,
Audit of Other Charges
We have substantially completed the audit of Other Charges of your Ministry for the year ended 31 December 2005 and forward a draft copy of the report for your review and comments.
We would like to discuss the contents of this report with you in your office on Tuesday 19 September 2006 at 11:00 am. Should you have any objection to the time and venue of the meeting please do not hesitate to contact us.
Yours sincerely,
Reginald S. Fynn.
For Financial Secretary
Copy:
The Minister of Finance
The Deputy Minister of Finance I
The Deputy Minister of Finance II
The Financial Secretary
Subject: Re: Audit report for the Ministry of agric
From: Farmer
To: All
Date Posted: 02:51:37 11/03/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-158-93.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.158.93
Message:
That is not all.What about the Tractor Deal?????
Subject: Re: Audit report for the Ministry of agric
From: SHYKH
To: All
Date Posted: 17:56:49 11/01/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
OH MY GOD...What Next?
Subject: Re: Audit report for the Ministry of agric
From: lemonlane
To: All
Date Posted: 15:52:04 11/03/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: is366.gold.ac.uk at 158.223.33.66
Message:
this is not a new thing in sa lone. why not audit all the other ministries? this is a replicant of what takes place in all the other ministries in salone. who gets to audit the ministry of finance, the most fraudlent ministry with millions of dollars squandared. if Tejan kabbah is serious enough, all other ministries must be audited and the report published in the open and not just pick on one ministry because his food policy has completely failed.
Subject: IS IT "MAKE THE CORPSE WALK" , OR IS IT DEMOCRACY
From: Dr. C. CURTIS-THOMAS
To: All
Date Posted: 15:27:51 11/01/06 ()
Email Address: RNMDTWO@YAHOO.COM
Entered From: ip-207-145-135-130.iad.megapath.net at 207.145.135.130
Message:
SOME CORPSES HAVE ALL THE LUCK ! After three weeks of uncertainty, an election for an ADEK, ALASKA, School board seat was settled by a coin toss on friday...AND A DEAD WOMAN WON, KTUU-TV reported. The race between challenger Dona Highstone and incumbent Katherinen Dunton on October 3rd, 2006 ended in a tie. Although Dunton died on Election Day (if nar Salone, man dem go say den tufee dee girl), the law stipulated the race had to be decided by a coin toss, so the elections director, (No, you guessed wrong, it was not Christians Thorpe) went through with the procedure.
JAMES HARDLEY CHASE WOULD HAVE EVENTUALLY SAID, NOW "MAKE THE CORPSE WALK". THE APC IN CONJUNCTION WITH SLBS AND SALAKOH MAXWELL WOULD HAVE SAID "UNOPPOSED, SO DEN PICK DEE WAN WAY NOR DIE.
HAVE A FUN DAY FOLKS.
Subject: THE DEFENDER OF APARTHEID IS DEAD
From: Allie Rainbow
To: All
Date Posted: 14:59:30 11/01/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
PW Botha,The hard-nosed South African leader struggled vainly to preserve apartheid rule in a tide of global condemnation is dead at 90....and may spend his afterlife in a segregated Heaven or Hell!
The lesson we learn is that Like Botha,Like Apartheid,and Like bad governance and Corruption in Sierra Leone,"ka#@ Long Tay ee go Cut"
Subject: Philosophy 101: Umuntu ngumuntu ngabantu
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 13:13:16 11/01/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.85.59.94
Message:
At the present time, I am disembarking from the political bandwagon of a partisan nature, I am seeking to understand the philosophy in the ideology of forumites who might be inclined to govern our mother nation in the future, and/or any type of leadership role - presently and/or in the future.
We are seeking a governance structure in the philosophy of this ideology that would obviate the evils we have all articulated upon in our polity; i.e., corruption, maladministration, nepotism, tribalism, etc., etc.
I came across a phrase of South African / Bantu / Swahili origin the other day. It succinctly depicts a philosophy that is dear to my heart. A philosophy that would be definitely employed if I am luckily opportuned to lead our party, the SLPP, in the future. It is a philosophical doctrine that would seriously form the foundation of governance within the party, and the nation, if the party is elected to govern again in 2012.
[I am not overlooking July, 2007. Nor am I taking July 28, 2007, for granted as a given. I am just looking farther into the future, because it takes a certain amount of time to educate folks out of their usual bad habits - bringing MORALITY in to replace IMMORALITY].
The phrase in one of the Bantu languages is:
"Umuntu ngumuntu ngabantu."
I have come to realize that this phrase can have one of two meanings if properly employed:
1. A person is only a person through their relationship to others.
2. I am because you are.
If we truly believe in our relationship as brothers, and sisters of our mother, Sa Lon, and adherence to the first doctrine is in vogue, then it would be quite easy to eliminate the aformentioned vices in our polity.
It is imperative that we consider our inter-connectedness in this regard, so that if one is tempted to bribe a policeman, per se, for him to tear up the ticket or summons alleging some malfeasance on one's part; or issuing out a bribe to an official in order not to pay one's fair share of taxes / income that would benefit the whole nation; or to funding the pangs of corruption unnecessarily, consciously or unconsciously; one would think twice and desist from participating in the immorality associated with such acts, through the practice of this doctrine in this type of philosophy.
In my opinion, the second interpretation of this phrase is more appropriate to a leader when delegating responsibilities to others in the role as the governor in avoiding dictatorial tendencies.
In the year 2012, when I vie for the leadership of the SLPP, and the nation, I shall abide by these doctrines.
How about you?
PS: Please, participate intellectually in this exercise, if you so choose. NO DIATRIBES, NO INSULTS, NO PROFANITIES, and NO RUDENESS, please. Let us show others that we can agree and disagree in a very civilized manner.
Thank you for participating in this exercise.
Subject: Re: Philosophy 101: Umuntu ngumuntu ngabantu
From: Pa Javombo
To: All
Date Posted: 19:53:02 11/02/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-66-56-36-91.hsd1.ga.comcast.net at 66.56.36.91
Message:
Sengbe,
I hope Christaina Thorpe did not put us together again this time.
If she did you'll have to settle with me in 2012.
You know where the King Makers come from in that part of our wolrd. Not Jimmi, Limba or Niagorehun but somewhere btween Small Bo in kenema district, Jaima Bongor in the Bo district and Bandajuma Sowa in the Pujehun district.:)-:)
Subject: Re: Philosophy 101: Umuntu ngumuntu ngabantu
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 10:52:51 11/03/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.85.59.94
Message:
WONDEH!!!
WONDEHBLA!!!
WONDEHMOI!!!!
WONDEHNYA!!!!!!
Dream on, brother!
Subject: Re: Philosophy 101: Umuntu ngumuntu ngabantu
From: KLA
To: All
Date Posted: 14:32:53 11/01/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
UBUNTUISM is indeed getting the kind of ear play reserved for Hit tunes,albeit its long history in
the Bantu cultures of Afrika.
It is quite a relief to see Afrikan rooted concepts and reasoning taking their rightful Places amongst
the Socio political ideas of the World. Where was old UBUNTU hiding BEFORE THE LIKES of Karl Marx showed up on the continent?
Well Afrikan Man/woman nor to Tiday people dem!!
Chief Sengbe, UBUNTUISM must be required study for a
New generation of Afrikan leaders,that you aspire to
be.
TSTM
Subject: Re: Philosophy 101: Umuntu ngumuntu ngabantu
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 19:12:13 11/01/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
It is so refreshing when progressive minds get together.
KLA has been AWOL for some time, and now he is back discussing UBUNTUISM.
Norto all saloneman dae cuss. Some day pan we way serious.
De ordar bra day cam cuss me, ehn fiteye me, in general public jus becus ee nor able communicate pan dis level yah so.
Anyway, bad nor dae.
We forgive ahm.
But ee fit participate pan dis topic yah so?
Oh! nar war oh!! ohrjahray.
Amongst some Saro peeple.
But why?
Bra KLA tenki for u input.
VALLEY MAN to VALLEY MAN!!
Subject: Re: A Lesson from Africa
From: Heal Thyself, First
To: All
Date Posted: 13:22:27 11/01/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 64.26.98.90
Message:
"Those who know how to wash (their mouths of rudeness) shall sit with their elders (civilized company)." -- African proverb
Come back, Edmund Koker, when you have grown up. then, maybe, we will countenance your (we hope and pray) no longer ill-bred self.
Subject: Re: A Lesson from Africa
From: Sengbe
To: All
Date Posted: 13:45:31 11/01/06 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.85.59.94
Message:
Thank you, and God bless you.
Next time, please speak or write for yourself - "I" instead of "we".
Subject: Re: A Lesson from Africa
From: Heal Thyself, First
To: All
Date Posted: 13:49:53 11/01/06 ()
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Message:
I see you are slowly learning the rules of etiquette. Saying thank you is a good start! Can you now try to learn to think before talking? Do you know who I am speakinf for? So, what do you mean by "speak for yourself?" You have a lot to learn, still.
Subject: Hehehehehehehehehhahahah
From: CHIEFDOM ELDERS
To: All
Date Posted: 14:48:10 11/01/06 ()
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Message:
" I SEE YOU ARE SLOWLY LEARNING THE RULES OF ETIQUETTE. SAYING THANK YOU IS A GOOD START!..." (Heal thyself, First)
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hehehehehehehhahahahahahhohohohoho.... OH YAH, LAFF SWEET WE, UNU WAN FOR CIVILIZE DIS SCAFF YAH. HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHAHAHAHAHHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO. ME SIDE DAE HAT!
Subject: A FLUNKY, FLIP-FLOPPER
From: Researcher
To: All
Date Posted: 12:57:12 11/01/06 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
"Let me start by acknowledging that I have the highest respect for the way you have raised relevant issues for discussions in this forum as well as the logical and reasonable way you have argued your case even though I do not always agree with your position." --
JOHN LEIGH TODAY
"First, I do not really need you to commend me for anything, certainly not when you seek to use my own words to insult the individual I have endorsed as my personal choice for our next president. And for the future, please note that the last thing I need is a phony commendation" -- -- JOHN LEIGH YESTERDAY
john leigh, teeday you dae yar, tomara you dea yanda? Oosai you dae, Mr. Flunky, Flip Flopper?
Subject: Re: A FLUNKY, FLIP-FLOPPER
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:32:44 11/01/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-dtc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.116.198
Message:
Dear Mr. Researcher:
I refer to your posting below after which my response will follow.
"Posted by Researcher on November 01, 2006 at 12:57:12:
"Let me start by acknowledging that I have the highest respect for the way you have raised relevant issues for discussions in this forum as well as the logical and reasonable way you have argued your case even though I do not always agree with your position." --
JOHN LEIGH TODAY
"First, I do not really need you to commend me for anything, certainly not when you seek to use my own words to insult the individual I have endorsed as my personal choice for our next president. And for the future, please note that the last thing I need is a phony commendation" -- -- JOHN LEIGH YESTERDAY
john leigh, teeday you dae yar, tomara you dea yanda? Oosai you dae, Mr. Flunky, Flip Flopper?"
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My two above approaches are addressing two situations that are entirely different just like night and day. So, there is absolutely no flip-flopping whatsoever. I wonder what kind of education you have! Can't you see the massive difference between the two situations?
Here are the reasons why:
First, your 'JOHN LEIGH TODAY' quote reflects a straightforward, honest compliment to someone whose work in this forum I genuinely respect for its intelligence, fairness and objectivity. Also, I am the one who extended the compliment.
Second, your 'JOHN LEIGH YESTERDAY' quote reflects a devious, fake compliment from someone who unsuccessfully tried to use my own very words in his hopeless campaign to attack the individual I have endorsed as my personal choice for the next president of Sierra Leone in succession to President Tejan Kabbah.
Third, the body of my remarks in respect to my 'JOHN LEIGH TODAY' reflects a very respectful tone because of my high opinion for the individual (Mr. Allie Rainbow)whose inquiry I was answering.
Fourth, you cannot say the same thing for the way I responded to my 'JOHN LEIGH YESTERDAY' questioner. In that case, I was very dismissive of the dunce, flunky questioning and told him off every time, every where - something I did not do in my response to Mr. Allie Rainbow. In fact, I did the opposite.
Next, I was the recipient of an unwanted compliment.
Mr. Allie Rainbow replied without rejecting my compliments probably because he felt I was justified. I never felt the fake compliment yesterday was justified at all.
Further, merely because I told one particular individual I know as a dunce, flunky, remedial rubbish writer (e.g. read the dunce: "HOW TO IMMEDIATELY ALLEVIATE POVERTY IN SLEONE")that I need no phony compliment from him, does not mean I also don't need genuine compliments for someone serious,intelligent and responsible like either Mr. Allie Rainbow or Mr. Alie Formeh Kamara, etc.
Nor does it mean that I will refuse to extend suitable compliments to those genuinely deserving of them or accept with honor genuine compliments that come my way from reputable people.
Do you thing I would have ever accepted a fake compliment from Dr. Foday Sankoh Cut Hand Cannibal? Or from Dr. Gongorlee-Wohwoh Lie Lie Ugliness Times? No way, Jose!
The dumb thing about flunky remedials is that they are very superficial and shallow. They can't analyze and go beyond surface matters. They get their education via rote learning and so have dull, unthinking faculties.
They don't even know what a real flip-flopper is even if it bites them in the arse.
So, mister dunce, flunky, remedial reasercher, better luck next time. You are nothing but papa's precious, lovely, little, dim-witted baby boy flunky attack accuser. Go learn to compare and contrast in an elementary English Language class, you dummy. Goodbye- JL
Subject: Re: A FLUNKY, FLIP-FLOPPER
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 16:41:52 11/01/06 ()
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John Leigh writes on November 01, 2006:
"Further, merely because I told one particular individual I know as a dunce, flunky, remedial rubbish writer (e.g. read the dunce: "HOW TO IMMEDIATELY ALLEVIATE POVERTY IN SLEONE")"
Mr. Leigh:
As I duly reminded you yesterday, boorishness is not a substitute for reasoned argument -- except in the mind of those who are still in need of remediation in their education. I thought that you would have learnt that sorely-needed lesson yesterday upon reading -- and hopefully understanding -- my following admonition to you:
"With due respect Ambassador Leigh, that is not a display worthy of a former member of the diplomatic corps of SL. Indeed, it is not worthy of a gentleman, and most certainly, it is not worthy of an educated person, be he a gentleman or not."
Regrettably, it is plain that your problem with indecorum is much more deep-seated. Notwithstanding, I hope that it its not too much for you to attempt -- however vainly -- to remedy one of your myriad intellectual failings (in this particular case, name-calling as a substitute for reasoned argument), by duly setting forth any evidence you purportedly have for your unsubstantiated opinion quoted above.
For your necessary edification, that means, Mr. Leigh: Please set forth the evidence that you had omitted, and upon which you purportedly relied in arriving at your consequently unsubstantiated opinion regarding my article cited above.
As I await yet another answer from you arising from your characteristically dense statements, I hope you will not continue to expose the many elements of your surprisingly uncouth character by misconstruing my reasonable request for you to set forth the requisite evidence that even a flunky lawyer would not have failed to duly set forth, as an invitation to display your seemingly boundless rudeness.
Subject: Re: A FLUNKY, FLIP-FLOPPER
From: FORREST GUMP
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Date Posted: 02:40:36 11/02/06 ()
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Can someone please explain to me why Alieu. John Leigh and Mohamed A Jalloh are all using the same IP I know Mr Leigh post under a yahoo why does he now post under Mohamed A Jalloh`s IP?
FORREST
Subject: Re: A FLUNKY, FLIP-FLOPPER
From: Sengbe Detector
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Date Posted: 13:29:40 11/01/06 ()
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This is Sengbe's handiwork. He talks with a forked tongue. He hates JEL.
Subject: Re: A FLUNKY, FLIP-FLOPPER
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 13:51:06 11/01/06 ()
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Eh bo! how you idle so?
How ar go hate Bra John? Me ehn ee dae nar the same progressive wing of the SLPP.
Waitin u write so nor mek any kine sense (to yousef).
Bra u nor go lef me sarful? Nar so u boil bin geh pus? Ar chook ahm pus cormot tae, blood falla.
Bra lef me sarful, ar nor kill u pusse.
Subject: WHY DELETE MY POST?
From: INJUSTICE
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Date Posted: 09:05:59 11/01/06 ()
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Why did you guys delete my first posting? This article is about a slone woman who was sexually assaulted. My God. Kabs and his moderator allowed AlieuMoh'm Sengbe, and Fake Doc to cause so much havoc here, but deleted my innocent post. Where is justice?
Posted on Wed, Nov. 01, 2006email thisprint thisreprint or license this
Was it sex assault or just sex?
Woman says she was threatened, 'treated like an animal'; cable TV salesman says he was seduced
BY SHANNON PRATHER
Pioneer Press
Ramsey County prosecutors say it was a brazen sexual assault: a door-to-door cable TV salesman preying on a customer who was home alone.
But in a trial that began Tuesday, the defense tells a far different story, saying the woman seduced the salesman with wine and provocative attire and later reported the consensual sex act as a crime in an attempt to get money from Comcast.
Both the prosecution and the defense must deal with complications in their cases.
The defendant, Ryan Alvarez, who worked on a contract basis for Comcast, first denied to police any sex with the woman. Later, faced with DNA evidence, he told police it was consensual and that he had lied because he was engaged to be married with a child on the way.
Alvarez, 26, is charged with multiple counts, including felony first-degree criminal sexual conduct for the alleged assault March 14, 2005, at an apartment on Arlington Avenue West in St. Paul's North End.
"The defendant had absolutely no problem telling the police a falsehood," said Assistant Ramsey County Attorney Mark Hammer, promising to play a recording of the interrogation for jurors. "Falsehood after falsehood, fiction after fiction."
Hammer said the victim, who said she was forced to perform a sex act with Alvarez, suffered a cut on her mouth, bruises on her face and breast and neck pain.
"The truth for her has never wavered," Hammer said.
But the defense said the woman's delay in reporting the encounter casts doubt on her version of events.
The woman, an immigrant from war-torn Sierra Leone, didn't report the sexual assault until March 22 and then refused for a time to speak with police until she could talk to her husband, said defense attorney J. Anthony Torres.
"There is a victim here. The first victim here is Mr. Ryan Alvarez, and that's what the evidence will show you," Torres said. "The evidence is that Comcast has already been sued. The case is about money, dysfunction and manipulation."
The Pioneer Press generally does not publish names of people who report they have been sexually assaulted.
Outside court, Torres said the woman has contacted a civil attorney and notified Comcast of her intent to sue.
The woman took the stand as the prosecution's first witness. She and her husband emigrated from Sierra Leone to the United States in 2000. She described her family as very traditional and religious.
Neither she nor her husband drink alcohol or smoke, she said. Men are the "decision makers" in the family and woman are "submissive and obedient," she said.
She testified she had worked designing and making clothing in Sierra Leone. She is now employed as a personal care attendant in the Twin Cities and is studying to become a nurse.
She described how Alvarez first knocked on her apartment door March 4, 2005, selling cable services. She said she kept the door's chain lock latched and had Alvarez slip the information through the opening. She spoke with her husband about installing cable and called Alvarez's cell phone about a week later.
She said she called a second time inquiring about Comcast's phone-cable packages.
Alvarez stopped by her apartment for a second time the evening of March 14, 2005. Jurors saw the sweat pants and sweat shirt she said she was wearing that evening.
Alvarez asked to come in and said he was thirsty. She said the defendant sat too close to her and began roughly massaging her shoulders. When she protested, he pulled her hair, grabbed her arm and performed an unwanted sex act on her, she said.
"He said I should cooperate or he will harm me," she tearfully testified. "I was thinking he was going to kill me. … He was treating me like an animal. He is not treating me like a human being."
The woman will take the stand again today. The defense is expected to call into question her version of events.
Torres said the woman was dressed suggestively when Alvarez showed up March 14, 2005. She offered the defendant wine and told him she was lonely and that her husband was out of the country, Torres said.
"She was somewhat flirtatious with him," Torres said. "It's clear she is interested in him. She puts her head on his shoulder and her hand on his crotch."
The pair engaged in consensual sex acts, Torres said. As Alvarez got up to leave, the woman asked if he would call her again.
"He says no. Someone else will do the installation, but it's been fun," Torres said.
Shannon Prather can be reached at sprather@pioneer press.com or 651-228-5452
Subject: Was it sex assault or just sex?
From: SALONE WOMAN
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Date Posted: 08:55:56 11/01/06 ()
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Was it sex assault or just sex?
Woman says she was threatened, 'treated like an animal'; cable TV salesman says he was seduced
BY SHANNON PRATHER
Pioneer Press
Ramsey County prosecutors say it was a brazen sexual assault: a door-to-door cable TV salesman preying on a customer who was home alone.
But in a trial that began Tuesday, the defense tells a far different story, saying the woman seduced the salesman with wine and provocative attire and later reported the consensual sex act as a crime in an attempt to get money from Comcast.
Both the prosecution and the defense must deal with complications in their cases.
The defendant, Ryan Alvarez, who worked on a contract basis for Comcast, first denied to police any sex with the woman. Later, faced with DNA evidence, he told police it was consensual and that he had lied because he was engaged to be married with a child on the way.
Alvarez, 26, is charged with multiple counts, including felony first-degree criminal sexual conduct for the alleged assault March 14, 2005, at an apartment on Arlington Avenue West in St. Paul's North End.
"The defendant had absolutely no problem telling the police a falsehood," said Assistant Ramsey County Attorney Mark Hammer, promising to play a recording of the interrogation for jurors. "Falsehood after falsehood, fiction after fiction."
Hammer said the victim, who said she was forced to perform a sex act with Alvarez, suffered a cut on her mouth, bruises on her face and breast and neck pain.
"The truth for her has never wavered," Hammer said.
But the defense said the woman's delay in reporting the encounter casts doubt on her version of events.
The woman, an immigrant from war-torn Sierra Leone, didn't report the sexual assault until March 22 and then refused for a time to speak with police until she could talk to her husband, said defense attorney J. Anthony Torres.
"There is a victim here. The first victim here is Mr. Ryan Alvarez, and that's what the evidence will show you," Torres said. "The evidence is that Comcast has already been sued. The case is about money, dysfunction and manipulation."
The Pioneer Press generally does not publish names of people who report they have been sexually assaulted.
Outside court, Torres said the woman has contacted a civil attorney and notified Comcast of her intent to sue.
The woman took the stand as the prosecution's first witness. She and her husband emigrated from Sierra Leone to the United States in 2000. She described her family as very traditional and religious.
Neither she nor her husband drink alcohol or smoke, she said. Men are the "decision makers" in the family and woman are "submissive and obedient," she said.
She testified she had worked designing and making clothing in Sierra Leone. She is now employed as a personal care attendant in the Twin Cities and is studying to become a nurse.
She described how Alvarez first knocked on her apartment door March 4, 2005, selling cable services. She said she kept the door's chain lock latched and had Alvarez slip the information through the opening. She spoke with her husband about installing cable and called Alvarez's cell phone about a week later.
She said she called a second time inquiring about Comcast's phone-cable packages.
Alvarez stopped by her apartment for a second time the evening of March 14, 2005. Jurors saw the sweat pants and sweat shirt she said she was wearing that evening.
Alvarez asked to come in and said he was thirsty. She said the defendant sat too close to her and began roughly massaging her shoulders. When she protested, he pulled her hair, grabbed her arm and performed an unwanted sex act on her, she said.
"He said I should cooperate or he will harm me," she tearfully testified. "I was thinking he was going to kill me. … He was treating me like an animal. He is not treating me like a human being."
The woman will take the stand again today. The defense is expected to call into question her version of events.
Torres said the woman was dressed suggestively when Alvarez showed up March 14, 2005. She offered the defendant wine and told him she was lonely and that her husband was out of the country, Torres said.
"She was somewhat flirtatious with him," Torres said. "It's clear she is interested in him. She puts her head on his shoulder and her hand on his crotch."
The pair engaged in consensual sex acts, Torres said. As Alvarez got up to leave, the woman asked if he would call her again.
"He says no. Someone else will do the installation, but it's been fun," Torres said.
Shannon Prather can be reached at sprather@pioneer press.com or 651-228-5452.
Subject: SENGBE AND ALLIEU, THANKS FOR SETTING A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 05:54:04 11/01/06 ()
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I am over joy to see you guys put your bitter differences behind. It shows just how when mature, educated, intelligent and peace loving people sit down and work things out, the outcome is always admirable and a very good example to emulate. United we stand, divided we fall.
It is touching that you each had good things to say about the other.
FORUMITES, I HOPE WE ALL LEARN FROM THE EXAMPLE SET BY THIS TWO GREAT GENTLEMEN.
Subject: Re: SENGBE AND ALLIEU, THANKS FOR SETTING A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 06:22:32 11/01/06 ()
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"FORUMITES, I HOPE WE ALL LEARN FROM THE EXAMPLE SET BY THIS TWO GREAT GENTLEMEN."
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Give me a break!
Subject: Re: SENGBE AND ALLIEU, THANKS FOR SETTING A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE
From: Bible
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Date Posted: 06:48:15 11/01/06 ()
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Loggy, I agree. As the bible says, there's none so blind (in this case to rudeness, tribalism, etc) as he who chooses not to see (the behavior described earlier)!
Subject: Re: SENGBE AND ALLIEU, THANKS FOR SETTING A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE
From: BUT FOR HOW LONG?
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Date Posted: 07:36:26 11/01/06 ()
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You tell me.
How did it all start in the first place?
How are you going to change the mentality of those anti-mende elements on this forum?
It was not just about Sengbe, was it...The roots are deeper than Sengbe....he was just a fall guy.
Subject: Re: SENGBE AND ALLIEU, THANKS FOR SETTING A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 08:40:42 11/01/06 ()
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I believe they have acted like gentlemen and it is a step in the right direction which deserves to be commended.
Subject: Re: SENGBE AND ALLIEU, THANKS FOR SETTING A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 08:53:48 11/01/06 ()
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Albert Moinina, if these were kids, I will agree with you. But these are not only grown men, but grown men who were warned over, and over, and over about the consequences of their actions. Now that they made ass holes of themselves and you expect us to commend them?
Give me a break.
Subject: Re: SENGBE AND ALLIEU, THANKS FOR SETTING A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 20:04:26 11/01/06 ()
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Ar bin cuss Mammi cuss?
Send me to the gallows for standing up for something - the truth - in turning back the falsehood in lies, innuendoes, gossip/densay, the fear of the imposition of tribalistic tendencies in our diverse society along lines of ethnicity leading to prejudicial outbursts in public.
Anyway, I'm moving on.
Subject: Re: SENGBE AND ALLIEU, THANKS FOR SETTING A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 06:30:22 11/02/06 ()
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Anyway, I'm moving on.
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Please do that!
Should have been your initial response.
Subject: Re: SENGBE AND ALLIEU, THANKS FOR SETTING A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 11:34:25 11/01/06 ()
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It is fine and good for all of us to move on amicably as brothers and sisters on this forum.But it will be best of us to keep the following things in our minds:
(1)Respect is not something you demand by acting wrong,respect is something you command by acting right.
If you do not respect your self,dont ever expect other people to respect you.When you decide to disrespect the parents of other people, be ready to see or hear them disrespect yours.In short,Respect is a give and take commodity.
Your mouth or your hands should not write a check your body cant cash.
(2)When people post things about our political parties,we must detach ourself from such postings.We must examine the postings with open minds(ojectively)and respond with the truth and with the utmost respect for the person who sent that posting. And
(3)Let us understand that only"so called politicians" who do not have anything to offer Sierra Leone and its people talk about tribe,region and religion.
I am a BLUE-BLOOD Sierra Leonean and every other Sierra Leonean is my brother or my sister(regardless of where they came from or what tribe or religion they belong to).
Once again I hope and pray that we will all get along peacefully and with respect for each other.
SUBHAANA RABBIKA RABBIL'LZZATI'AMMAA YASIFUUN!
WA SALAAMUN'WA SALAAMUN'WA SALAAMUN'ALA-MURSALIN!
WA-HAMDULILAAHI RABBIL'AALAMIIN.AMIN.
Subject: PAPA GOD HELP WE !!! IS THIS A JOKE OR ARE WE FOOLS?
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 01:59:01 11/01/06 ()
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Berewa Denies Promising 24hrs Light
Concord Times (Freetown)
October 31, 2006
Posted to the web October 31, 2006
Abdul Karim Koroma
Freetown
Vice President Solomon Ekuma Berewa Friday denied promising 24 hours electricity in the Western Area come December.
Berewa made this statement during a press conference at his Spur Road Lodge.
"It was an announcement which I made based on the negotiation we had then. I was in the centre of the negotiations. It was not a promise that I made," he said adding that the South African company, Eskom should have commissioned the machines since last December.
He stated that everybody knows the situation of the National Power Authority (NPA) and refrained from assuring that come December there would be 24 hours electricity in the Western Area.
On the setting up of the United Nations Peace Commission, Berewa said the Commission would enable the UN to continue to focus its attention on Sierra Leone.
He explained the Commission would be working with Sierra Leone and Burundi, as the two countries would be used as a case study.
"I am really impressed with the interest the UN is showing towards Sierra Leone. Reactions following my statement on the country were very positive," he said, adding that every speaker made a commitment to help Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: PAPA GOD HELP WE !!! IS THIS A JOKE OR ARE WE FOOLS?
From: APC Man
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Date Posted: 03:05:49 11/01/06 ()
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You in the PMDC are all fools.
Subject: Re: PAPA GOD HELP WE !!! IS THIS A JOKE OR ARE WE FOOLS?
From: HIDE
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Date Posted: 04:18:44 11/01/06 ()
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HIDE UNDER THE APC UMBRELLA AND BLAME THEM FOR ALL THE ILLS AND WRONGS OF THE COUNTRY. SLPP WILL BE CAUGHT WITH HANDS AS "WHITE" AS TAR.
Subject: Re: PAPA GOD HELP WE !!! IS THIS A JOKE OR ARE WE FOOLS?
From: APC Man
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Date Posted: 04:42:03 11/01/06 ()
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You are either a psycho or just plain stupid.
I told Moinina that only PMDC folks are fools, and the rest of us are not.... so that makes me an SLPP guy hiding under an APC umbrella? hmmm?
What are you taking?
Subject: Is this SLPP "DEFORM" or "reform"?
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 22:59:32 10/31/06 ()
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With the SLPP: different people agendas
Posted by Claude Cooper
Standard Times on Sep 30, 2006, 02:
There is a saying that there is nothing so precious as an idea whose time has come. When one has an idea at the appropriate time, the person will feel on top of the world. Conversely, when a set of people are out of ideas, it becomes the most dangerous situation. They will therefore be made to be groping in the dark, thus exposing themselves to hazards. This is very much the situation the ruling Sierra Leone Peoples Party (SLPP) is facing.
The SLPP has continued to be fragmented especially in their desperate march towards another general election, and their guest to continue clinging onto state power even though of late it is believed to have been fragmented into various factions.
Today, there are some who consider themselves as executive members of the party, and believe they own the party and therefore can do anything and get away with it because they are in control of it. They care very little about any noisy sect within that party.
Apart from the executives of the SLPP, there are those who have branded themselves as friends of the vice President, known as ¡§Friends of Solo B¡¨. This group is claiming to have women supporting them who are known as ¡§Solo Babes, and reportedly the number of the Solo Babes is everyday on the increase.
Going by their reported number, one would want to believe that all women within this country now are Solo Babes. Is this not interestingly?
The final noisy group that has emerged purporting to be supporting the vice President is the Return Agenda.
Our understanding is that members of the Reform Agenda are nothing other than a group of young men and women who feel they are making fortunes at their work place and should be meeting from time to time to make lavish displays of their ill-gotten wealth. Notoriously their meeting place is usually at the beach where they often drink until drunk, discussing nothing serious.
If the Reform Agenda were any serious group, they should not be drinking at all at a picnic on the breach while the whole city is in total darkness.
Most of the members of that so called Reform Agenda hail from the southern and eastern regions of the country, and as they meet to wine and dine at the beach bars with their numerous concubines, their parents in those very regions are suffering because of the lack of basic amenities. Any sober minded individual who wants to challenge this only need to visit Pujehun district in the southern region, where that individual will be amazed at the degree of poverty and hardship that these people have to live with.
What needs to be raised here as an issue is the fact that these different factions within the ruling SLPP have different agenda, and the intentions of the SLPP executive are quite different from those of the Friends of Solo Bee and the Solo Babes. One also needs to find out what the much talked about women now supporting the vice President really wants.
Of course those making up the Reform Agenda have their own agenda, and certainly, most of them do neither believe in the SLPP nor the vice President for a qualitative leadership. Apart from the understanding that most of them have vaulting ambition and can demolish even a whole building when it comes to achieving it, there is the issue of infighting to consolidate their positions at their various places of work.
The vice President is strategically placed in the government to effect a positive change if only he is allowed to carry out his agenda for the development and advancement of this country.
As the vice President, he has on several occasions been left in charge and therefore has had the chance and opportunity of changing things for the better. However the experience he has gained gives him a head start among his fellow contestants for the leadership of the country at the upcoming presidential elections.
The Reform Agenda knows very well that it is no philosophy that problems cannot be solved at the same level we were when they were created, and clear thinking agrees with this principle. It has however been mentioned that apart from the burning desire to continue holding onto their various positions, some want to ensure that they become government ministers in the next dispensation. This thus explains why they are all hypocritically behaving as if they are with the vice President and believe in him.
The attitude of the Reform Agenda could therefore be equated to nothing other than another manifestation of intellectual hypocrisy, which has largely culminated in the downward trend we are today experiencing.
It is not painful that a Nelson Mandela type cannot be identified and sought amongst our own so called intellectuals, as they are always interested in lining up their pockets even if it is at the expense of the suffering masses, while they are wining and dining at the beach bars.
Painfully, most of those now parading as intellectuals were educated by monies that were squeezed from the natives with the hope that when they were educated they would return to serve in a better way their various communities. Is this what they are doing today?
Is it also not painful that none of our intellectuals can look at something going wrong and challenge it. This is where most people have come to the ultimate conclusion that this whole issue of Reform Agenda is nothing but money-making by a bunch of selfish people only interested in their own well being.
But have these people taken time to actually reflect on the fact that by keeping a large number of people disgruntled, the disgruntled elements might one day be forced to think otherwise?
When the issue of this Reform Agenda started, some were actually made to believe that it had a proper focus, for by the mention of the word reform, it was like accepting that something is fundamentally wrong within the SLPP.
One therefore expects that they were going to sit and firstly identify what is missing and then map out strategies for the resolution. However few months after the initiation of the Reform Agenda, one is yet to see any sober thing that the group has achieved.
The SLPP as we are talking is plagued with cronic financial constraints.
Has the Reform Agenda not realized that something is fundamentally missing?
In a political party one does expect that issues should be looked at collectively and in the interest of all. This is however not the situation within the SLPP, as different factions are pursuing different selfish interests.
Perhaps what the different factions, all with their personal hidden agenda have not realized is how best to identify the problem of the SLPP, and until this is done with a degree of seriousness and programtism, the party will remain in limbo
Subject: Labour Minister, MPs Visit NASSIT's Project Development Site
From: GOOD JOB
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Date Posted: 21:09:51 10/31/06 ()
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Labour Minister, MPs Visit NASSIT's Project Development Sites
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The Minister of Labour Social Security and Industrial Relations, Hon Alpha O.Timbo, the Chairman Parliamentary Oversight Committee on Labour and Social Security, Hon. Cecil Hanson, the Chairman Parliamentary Oversight Committee on Finance, Hon. Ibrahim Sesay, Hon. Ibrahim Bundu and Hon. Bami Chidi on Tuesday 17th October, 2006 went on a familiarisation visit to the Sierra Block Concrete Products Factory and the Real Estate Development Site at Angola Town and Goderich respectively
Subject: China defends dealings with Africa
From: AUDRA ANG
To: All
Date Posted: 17:32:19 10/31/06 ()
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China defends dealings with Africa
By AUDRA ANG
Tue Oct 31, 2:33 PM ET
BEIJING - Billboards of elephants, giraffes and sweeping African savannas are covering Beijing high-rises. Police have had holidays canceled to help ease gridlock in the capital. Conference centers are being carpeted with grass.
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Beijing is making unusually lavish efforts to welcome leaders and officials from 48 African nations this week for a landmark summit meant to highlight China's huge and growing role in Africa.
Over the past decade, China has built an outsized presence in Africa, in a diplomatic and economic push that is helping to reshape the geo-political map. Trade has ballooned tenfold to $40 billion last year. Chinese investment has funded roads and been poured into copper mines and oil fields, helping to boost African economies and, for some, standards of living.
"China is the biggest developing country and Africa is a continent where the most developing countries are situated," said He Wenping, an Africa expert at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences. "They need each other."
In this exchange, China is picking up natural resources — oil, precious minerals — to feed its expanding economy and new markets for its burgeoning enterprises. The African countries get investment and both parties are building political alliances in a world they often see as overly dominated by the United States and other Western powers.
But China's African adventure is not friction-free. African workers have protested against what they see as ill-treatment and poor pay by Chinese companies, as well as the flood of Chinese workers who take away their jobs. South Africa, a staunch friend of Beijing, has complained that influxes of cheap Chinese clothes could devastate the textile industry.
In Zambia, a decades-old political ally, China became an issue in the September presidential election, with the opposition candidate questioning the benefit from Chinese investment. In July, scores of African workers at a Chinese-owned Zambian mine rioted over low wages.
There's a "growing perception that China's interests in Africa are very self-serving, if not predatory, that China is interested in making inroads into markets that are good for its energy needs — especially with countries that are not paragons of democratic virtue," said Garth le Pere of the Institute for Global Dialogue, a think tank based in Midrand, South Africa.
The World Bank and International Monetary Fund have raised concern that freely lavished Chinese aid money is compounding Africa's debts. China's exports of oil from Angola, seen as one of Africa's most corrupt governments, and Sudan, among the most repressive governments, have raised alarms from human rights and good governance groups.
Critics also have said that China's arms exports to Sudan's Darfur region have helped fuel the conflict, which has claimed at least 180,000 lives and forced more than 2 million people from their homes over the past three years.
Chinese officials, however, insist that their country's involvement has improved the lives of ordinary Africans without meddling in political affairs — strict adherence to China's diplomatic policy of noninterference.
"Chinese investment in Africa has promoted economic growth, increased job opportunities ... and improved living standards," Deputy Commerce Minister Wei Jianguo told reporters. "It has greatly benefited the local people and is very popular among them."
Since 1956, Wei said, China has also helped set up more than 700 projects in Africa in fisheries, telecommunications, hydropower, education and health, Wei said. "They have all proven to be very successful," he said.
For Beijing, the Nov. 3-5 China-African summit offers a fresh opportunity to try to blunt the controversy while pushing deeper economically and politically.
The summit will "exert an important and far-reaching influence over the long-term development over China-Africa relations," Wei said.
Among the countries invited to the summit are Burkina Faso, Swaziland, Malawi, Gambia, Sao Tome and Principe, which have diplomatic relations with Taiwan, the democratic island that China claims as its own. The two have engaged in a diplomatic tug of war, offering inducements to nations to cut diplomatic ties with the other.
A conference for 1,500 Chinese and African entrepreneurs will be held along the sidelines, along with an African product exhibition to show off food, lumber, textiles and handicrafts.
Throughout the city, billboards touting "Africa — the land of myth and miracle" have been put up in numbers unusual even for a capital used to propaganda campaigns. Some 1,800 plainclothes and uniformed police officers are being put on summit duty, organizers said. So far, there have been no threats of protests. Volunteers will also be mobilized to patrol on the streets, many of which will be closed to public traffic.
State media have run almost daily reports touting relations between the two sides.
Robert Mugabe, the Zimbabwean president who has been criticized in the West for trampling human rights, was quoted as saying that the summit will enhance cooperation.
"We have nothing to lose but our imperialist chains," the Xinhua News Agency quoted Mugabe as saying.
To ensure success, Beijing's Communist Party Secretary, Liu Qi, has called for "all-out efforts to create a seriously friendly atmosphere for Sino-African relations," state media reported.
To some, however, the issue isn't cooperation but whether African countries are leveraging their resources to get the most out of China. And the billions of dollars in aid, forgiven debt and investment China has poured into Africa is proving controversial even among Chinese.
"African countries have got what China wants but they're not bargaining," said Francis Kornegay, a senior researcher at the Center for Policy Studies in Johannesburg, South Africa. "Is it simply going to be a mutual admiration society, or is there going to be some real given and take?"
Subject: KABS, CHECK YOUR MAIL
From: SIERRA LEONEAN
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Date Posted: 16:08:08 10/31/06 ()
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Kabs, please check your mail
Subject: RE: To Mr. John E. Leigh / From Musa Kal.
From: Musa Kal
To: All
Date Posted: 15:40:07 10/31/06 ()
Email Address: muskalawa@yahoo.com
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To Mr. Leigh
As I may transform part of your sentence into a Quote.
"given what I know about that bad group which remained silent throughout the AFRC/RUF regime and the war they unleashed upon our suffering people?"
The above is part of your text directed to Mr Alie Formeh Kamara.
Did you really know the origin of this senseless war that our people were forced to endure, were you in Sierra Leone during the end of 1990's and the beginning of 1991 when the rebel incursion started? If you know the starting point of this war you will not try to blame it on others who really don't have anything to do with its beginning.
I "Musa" was raised in the south eastern province of Sierra Leone at a village called Hangha just six and half miles form the provincial head quarter town of Kenema.
I attended the Govt. Sec. Sch. Kenema, and was forced to vacate my schooling due to the intensity of this so-call war.
Among my suffering were the lost of loved ones and the manner in which I was displaced from my educational career.
As a reminder, the war started from kailahun and progressed to the areas of Gorrahun Tonkia which slowly moved to the suburban regions of BO. From there on the war continue heading east towards KONO District and infested the mining regions of Kono. It lasted there through the overthrown of the APC government by the NPRC military junta.
About a year of two, the war got out of hands and the NPRC fought it tooth & nail, which eventually spilled over to the areas of Bumbuna, Kabala, Port Lokoh and the surrounding areas of Makeni. Did you know this.
The first democratic elections were conducted in 1996. Kabba emerge as the presidential leader, of which I musa help elect by voting for him in 1996.
It is okay for us all to select a candidate of our choice, it is right to support that candidate with all means peaceful.
What is not okay is when your fact became misleading and as a result subject to scrutiny.
I have continuously seen you posting, and had previously rated them highly. With such misleading information, makes me to question the credibility of your facts.
To remind you again, the war in Sierra Leone was not brought upon our people by the past APC Government, NPRC military Junta most likely not by the AFRC and most definitely not by the PMDC.
Those not mention above should check themselves for the atrocities our people suffer.
Subject: Re: RE: To Mr. John E. Leigh / From Musa Kal.
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:32:31 10/31/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. Kal:
First, let me thank you for providing we with additional details as to how the Sankoh war spread in its first phase during the APC and NPRC regimes. As you know, that war was technically ended according to the November 1996 Abidjan Peace Agreement. This is not the war that I wrote about to Mr. Alie Formeh Kamara.
The war I wrote about was the one that began with the May 25, 1997 violent coup of Mr. Johnny P. Koroma and continued after the eviction of the AFRC/RUF junta, the re-occupation of Kono through the January 1999 invasion of Freetown, the occupation of Makeni and the surrounding districts, the Lome Agreement and Sankoh's overreaching in May 2001, his arrest and detention.
I agree that my write-up to Mr. Kamara and shown below could be misunderstood. It is a rather long and complicated sentence. Here is the full quote:
"Or do you really expect me to endorse someone from the APC given what I know about that bad group which remained silent throughout the AFRC/RUF regime and the war they unleashed upon our suffering people?"
This is how I would like forumites to understand the above quote:
1) I will not endorse the APC presidential candidate.
2) But APC did not start the second RUF war.
3) However, the APC as a party remained silent throughtout the AFRC/RUF junta brutal reign of terror and throughout the second RUF war. APC never issued an official statement condemning the said war.
4) It is the RUF that unleashed the second RUF war following their eviction from the Western Area by ECOMOG.
5) PMDC had nothing to do with unleashing any wars.
In addition:
6) But I do not know what the PMDC'S self-appointed leaders did during the interregnum. I would like to know what its presidential candidate did to help end the war and bring peace.
I apologize for my complicated and confused writing. But if you understand the above-quote the way I originally intented it to be understood, you will accept that my allegation is correct.
I very much appreciate your bringing the matter to my attention. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: RE: To Mr. John E. Leigh / From Musa Kal.
From: Mohamed Serwo Feika
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Date Posted: 02:45:11 11/02/06 ()
Email Address: serwofeika@hotmail.com
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Your Statement " However, the APC as a party remained silent throughtout the AFRC/RUF junta brutal reign of terror and throughout the second RUF war. APC never issued an official statement condemning the said war" is totally misguided becuase if my memory can serve me right Edward Turay together with members of his Party put out a strong worded statement with regards their misgivings over the topple of the democratically elected government. Can an APC member please given this gentleman the specifics of the Press Release.
I am a member of the SLPP but we have all fought as a Nation for democracy,so let us be careful about our statement in relation to contributions from other factions. The democratic struggle was never a one party affair ,nor one fraternal affair, tribal affair e.tc. At University, that was the first time I saw Status Quo working with Generals, Gardners, Future Shock e.tc, just for the sake of Democracy. Oh I hope such a day will come again when all these factions will come together for the liberation of Sierra Leone from decandence to perpectual light.
Subject: Re: RE: To Mr. John E. Leigh / From Musa Kal.
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:07:29 11/07/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr.Mohamed Serwo Feika:
On November 02, 2006 you condemned in this forum my statement belowas "totally misguided":
"However, the APC as a party remained silent throughtout the AFRC/RUF junta brutal reign of terror and throughout the second RUF war. APC never issued an official statement condemning the said war ......... becuase if my memory can serve me right Edward Turay together with members of his Party put out a strong worded statement with regards their misgivings over the topple of the democratically elected government."
You then went on to make the following request:
"Can an APC member please given this gentleman the specifics of the Press Release."
Have you been able to obtain the Edward Turay-APC statement you say they put out during the time of coupligan regime? If not, please do not worry about it.
Thank you for your cooperation. - JL
Subject: Re: RE: To Mr. John E. Leigh / From Musa Kal.
From: Chief Bomborlai
To: All
Date Posted: 00:47:52 11/01/06 ()
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Mr Leigh,
I suspect that your 'knowledge' of the war does not pre-date the AFRC period.The real war was fought before that period. The conflict during and after the AFRC was arguably an appendix to the war. The slpp does not deserve any credit for ending the war, they should instead be held accountable for mismanaging the Abidjan peace accord, and systematically and knowingly creating the conditions for the AFRC and after.Where were you JL all those years when we suffered so much prior to AFRC ? You only spoke out at a time when such speeches could earn you a living. Dont ' bluff ' for propagating against the AFRC, the regime was an easy and soft target. Anyone could have done the job you did. The hands of you and your slpp colleagues are soiled with the blood of countless Sierraleoneans killed as a result of the actions and inactions. Violence is entrenched in the marrow of the slpp.
Subject: Re: RE: To Mr. John E. Leigh / From Musa Kal.
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 09:19:16 11/01/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Chief Bor Bor Lie Lie:
You've asked:
"Where were you JL all those years when we suffered so much prior to AFRC ?"
I left to seek my "fame & fortune" outside Sierra Leone as soon as Siaka Stevens came to power. In came in power in April. I left in August the same year.
I had known him before hand and knew that national degradation lay ahead under his leadership. At the time, I correctly predicted to my colleagues at the Bank of SLeone that if I stayed behind I would never be able to give my kids the college education I had.
So, I took off to the US, then to Nigeria to trade with and co-publish with UK firms; then back to the US of A.
Next is your self-serving conclusion:
"You only spoke out at a time when such speeches could earn you a living."
You are lying for you have no clue as to my background.
I began speaking out when I was a student in America. As president of the SL Student Union in the US, our Union published a magazine VIEWPOINT discussing SL issues critically. At the Bank of SLeone, I was such a critique of the pending degration, I was advised by yesmen 'to go back to the country where my wife came from and that I should leave them in SLeone in peace because they are happy.'
So, I departed. Meantime no one ever paid me anthing for my critical views.
For the past three or four years, I have written and broadcast on subjects pertinent to our country's situation. No one ever paid me anything, except on one occasion only, I was paid by the New York Times. But that was for an article about the Special Court trying Charles Taylor in the Hague.
Your advice:
"Dont ' bluff ' for propagating against the AFRC, the regime was an easy and soft target" is dumb.
AFRC was never a soft target. It was a most ruinous, bloody target and still has a lot of defenders. They are frequently attacking me On-Line and in the local press.
Your gratuitous comment that:
"Anyone could have done the job you did" is BS as no one did.
You also have insufficient knowledge of all the things I did for your broken down country, Bor Bor Lie Lie.
Your swear that:
"The hands of you and your slpp colleagues are soiled with the blood of countless Sierraleoneans killed as a result of the actions and inactions"
is without vitality because it is not true. You are grabing for straws not in existence. You are an ungrateful wretch. SLPP freed you from the hands of your blood brothers, Foday Sankoh Cut Hand Cannibal Rapist thief and Johnny P. Koroma, your bloody Foot of State.
Your observation that "Violence is entrenched in the marrow of the slpp" is rubbish. AFRC/RUF/Taylor/NPFL were the violent ones and insatiably so.
Thank you for the opportunity to share some of my thoughts with you and others on this matter. - JL.
Subject: Re: RE: To Mr. John E. Leigh / From Musa Kal.
From: Moijue
To: All
Date Posted: 18:45:22 10/31/06 ()
Email Address:
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Tell me individuals who were not in government employment that contributed to end the war.If you want to use this as campaign material for BEREWA bring it on.
Today you are praising Berewa but yesterday u and i were saying crucify him.How can BEREWA be so proud of the LOME accord that they have violated by betraying NORMAN and co?
How could he have fooled Sankoh and left arms in his hand just to killed our people in MAY?
Tell us specifically what BEREWA did outside him being minister?
Bo una lef we yah.Berewa is not a presidential material u have said it yourself.
U know the man cannot be relied upon.
Remember when he told you he is not interested in becoming a VP when you wanted that job?
Remember MONKEY WOK BABOON EAT ARTICLE?
Subject: Re: RE: To Mr. John E. Leigh / From Musa Kal.
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 09:51:29 11/01/06 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Moijue:
My position on this Berewa thing is simple and straightforward, thus:
Despite of my complaints and criticisms in writing and in broadcast about the current SLPP Administration since the beginning of time; despite all my differences with VP Berewa, it is my carefully considered opinion that he is far more qualified, more than 100 times more qualified in fact, for the office of President of Sierra Leone in succession to President Kabbah than your flunky man - Papa's precious, lovely little baby boy spoilt brat yap-yap talker with an arrogant flunky background.
Merely because I critized my party or complained about a mokey wok babu eat culture within my party does not mean I cannot endorse him. Nor does it mean I should support a real dunce for the office of president. Why should I support your PMDC? There will never be a good reason.
At least Solo-B passed from Form Four to Form Five at CKC and graduated with his class with "O" Levels, solely on his own power with no clout pressed by Papa Apahta.
Solo-B then went on to College on his own effort and power; and graduated on his on sweat. Finally, he passed his WRITTEN English Bar Finals on his first attempt without the intervention of condescending 'Affirmative Action' Holy Fathers upon a second attempt.
Hence, Solo-B's bar pass was genuine, not a flunky afirmative action pass allowed for donkey dunces.
Moreover, VP belongs to the SLPP - my party - a party that was openly formed in public in the bright sunlight glare of daylight amidst prying public eyes.
SLPP is in no way like that flunky party of remedials and flunkies, set up in corner-corner style, secretly behind close doors with disbarred lawyers, tombo-dumbo crook-dummies, discredited politicians, remedials and flunkies and with the public never invited.
And I have dealth with Solo-B directly beginning in 1991. Your man sent tombo-dumbos to recruit him in 2005. He must be brain dead.
Thank you for your attention. - JL
Subject: MY THOUGHTS FOR TODAY
From: Dr. C. CURTIS-THOMAS
To: All
Date Posted: 15:28:36 10/31/06 ()
Email Address: rnmdtwo@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 158.59.91.31
Message:
IF GOD BRINGS YOU TO IT,HE WILL BRING YOU THROUGH IT.
---In happy moments, PRAISE GOD.
---In difficult moments, SEEK GOD.
---In quiet moments,WORSHIP GOD.
---In PAINFUL moments, TRUST GOD.
Subject: Re: MY THOUGHTS FOR TODAY
From: APC Man
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Date Posted: 03:07:00 11/01/06 ()
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Amen!
Subject: Tough challenge for opposition parties..no united front
From: CLAUDE COPPER
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Date Posted: 14:31:53 10/31/06 ()
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Tough challenge for opposition parties..no united front
Posted by Claude Cooper on Oct 31, 2006, 10:44
As the preparation for the 2007 elections gains momentum, it is becoming clearer by the day that the opposition is still plagued and fraught with internal problems and organizing themselves effectively to pose a serious threat to vice president Berewa has become a stout challenge. Since much have been said already in several of our local tabloids about the cracks and crevices within the ruling Sierra Leone Peoples Party, we will only mention it here in passing. The focus of this piece is therefore those parties that are regarded the opposition.
Koroma...whats going on?
Although many political parties mushroom during periods of electioneering in Sierra Leone, history as shown that there are only two dominant parties in the country – namely the SLPP and the APC.However, a third party currently sits in parliament – fugitive Johnny Paul Koroma’s Peoples Liberation Party (PLP). But given its leaderlessness, it is of little significance especially as it has only two representatives in the more than a hundred-member parliament.The situation has nonetheless radically changed with the emergence of what could well be described as a third-force i.e. the Peoples Movement for Democratic Change (PMDC).
New force
Since its inception the Peoples Movement for Democratic Change has been associated with vibrant lawyer Charles Francis Margai. Though there are talks about holding convention in November this year, it is doubtful to materialize, with the persistence of rumours of the bankruptcy of the party’s leadership. If these rumours are true and the situation does not improve before next year, it would seriously hamper the PMDC’s chances of wining.This is definitely a challenge the party would have to face squarely and surmount or else its swollen membership would disappear over night when the plight becomes apparent.
This being the case, one is made to wonder how this Peoples Movement for Democratic Change can serve as an effective opposition to the ruling Sierra Leone Peoples Party, which has both the state and its resources at its disposal.
PMDC diehards are however not daunted and are optimistic to generate what ever funds are required to see them through the elections and beyond. There is quiet confidence in the membership especially as quite some inroad has been made in the area of membership registration which has provided the movement with seed money. Although it is hinted that over a quarter of a million people have registered the movement is still not content and has intensified the selling of its membership cards and encouraging its rank and file to pay their party monthly dues regularly and on time.
Thus there is no truth in rumour that the PMDC is experiencing mass desertion among its top echelon membership as the party’s highest decision-making body, the Planning Committee was still very intact in their last Wednesday’s weekly meeting at Hannah-Benka Coker Street.
Old rivals
The All Peoples Congress (APC) is by the look of things the leading opposition party to the SLPP. For some reasons some people are entertaining the views that the All People Congress Party is going to present a formidable opposition to the ruling SLPP come July 2007 elections.While we cannot dismiss the opinion held by those people that All Peoples Congress will give the SLPP a run for its money in 2007, the persistence of the intra and inter-party squabbles that have dogged the party over the years is certainly worrisome.
These squabbles which are quite venomous from members of the family have proved internecine and could well derail the party’s efforts if not settled and settled soon.
The very leadership of the All People Congress party is in deep waters even when it is less than a year to the elections. The leadership of Hon Ernest Bai Koroma is in serious crisis as those that are supposed to be his own brothers are determined to throw him out. For all intents and purposes this is not an issue that should be downplayed since the matter was taken to the Supreme Court where an interpretation was seemingly made against the Ernest Bai Koroma faction.
It is important to state here that what the Supreme Court did about the APC crisis was to make an interpretation of the law. In that matter it was interpreted that the party’s 1985 constitution had been tampered with. This should automatically have disqualified the leadership of Ernest Bai Koroma and his executive.Again, it is important to state that having made the constitutional interpretation, it was left with the aggrieved or the party to take up the issue at the magistrate court level seeking an injunction to force Koroma and his kabudu out. That remains to be seen while there is talk of efforts by Sierra Leoneans in the Diaspora to help in resolving the conflict.
For those that are down playing this matter they need to understand that this matter moved from intra party dispute to the level of the Supreme Court. At least after these, one would have expected that this matter would have laid to rest. But no. the matter was taken again to the magistrate where Hon. Ernest Bai Koroma and associates are charged with an offenceThe danger about this whole court issue is that the matter is being dragged with the illusion that some of the people involved in the court case would eventually give up the matter. However knowing human nature for what it is, what if the aggrieved parties decide to fight this matter to its logical end?This whole episode is weakening the party and dampening its chances of making a strong showing.
Having followed this court case, it is becoming crystal clear that Hon. Ernest Bai Koroma and co are determined to hold on their leadership position regardless of any situation. The members of the aggrieved party on the other hand are determined to throw out Hon. Ernest Bai Koroma, even if that would mean totally dismantling the All Peoples Congress. They would very much prefer this rather than see an outsider (Hon. Ernest Bai Koroma), a partial-blooded Temne, lead party. To this group of people they would prefer the All People Congress not participating in the coming elections than to have Ernest Bai Koroma representing them as their leader and presidential flag bearer.
Outsiders are watching this APC politics with deep concern and interest.This incident really reminds me about the sermon an Imam preach in a mosque at Gaza Palestine before the outbreak of this madness of Israel, whilst I was a guest during one Friday payers. The Imam said any time you a rope tied around the rock one Muslim, if one follows that rope to where it is beginning or ending you will find the brother of the very man around whose knock the vicious rope is tied.
In essence, the Imam informed his congregation that at the tail end of that rope, you find another Muslim telling people to draw the rope because that of his Muslim brother is difficult. It is in this light that I often and generally perceived the tires and --- that Hon Ernest Bai Koroma is going through.For this entire problem, the crime of Ernest Bai Koroma has been nothing other than his being seen a late comer into the APC. He is considered a half-blooded Temne because his father was a Limba. Yet these petty considerations warrant the question: are all these enough reasons to throw out a man whose good can by far outweigh his perceived short comings?
Certainly this is just one issue which ought to caution the high optimists about any headway they think APC will make in 2007 elections.Interestingly, it is an internal problem although some entertain the views that the external environment has being having its own influence.Apart from this, this leadership crisis has the potential of drastically reducing any meaningful performance as APC the party is also plagued with myriad problems.
From whatever way one might look at the crisis which sometime ago erupted in Makeni involving the Makeni Town Council Chairman also has its own negative impact on the APC. For all intents and purposes that situation was never handled with the degree of political maturity it deserved.Bai Koroma is yet to learn the rudiments of politics. The manner in which things are handled are to some extent manifesting that his thinking scope has not expanded beyond what he used to be whilst he was thee Executive Director of an insurance company.His situation is further acerbated by the nature of people Ernest Bai Koroma is surrounded with.
Cookie crumbles
What can for goodness sake people like Victor Bockarie Foh tell this nation about corruption? Who can he persuade that he is not corrupt? What impact can people like William Smith, the Hindolo Tyre and other spent forces close to their tethers end.The crisis that involved Musa Mansaray in Makeni was also handled with political immaturity. Imagine what happened. The then chairman was accused by his own party (APC) of having indulged in corruption. Ridiculously, when a combined team from the decentralization and local government department went to investigate the Makeni Town Council crisis, they came to the conclusion that for the Ministry of Finance representative at the council to serve as the accountant was in breach of procedure.
Interestingly, while Musa Mansaray was castigated by his own party members who are now posing to be clean and in tolerant of corruption he was exonerated from an unexpected quarter. This mistake certainly exposed Ernest Bai Koroma political naivety and immaturity, while his followers are yet to learn that politics is about numbers and that from whatever angle one might look at it, Musa Mansaray has his own following which Ernest Koroma and Co. must have alienated. Would Mansaray’s own followers continue to support Ernest Koroma’s APC after his uncalled for humiliation? That is how the cookie crumbles. But this is not all the miscalculations the All Peoples Congress has made.
Treachery
Although one might be tempted to see the stray Ali Badara Mansaray of Waterloo District Council as dishonest and a traitor, most people however believe that the whole fiasco would have been avoided if it were handled with caution and maturity.
It beats the imagination that an APC local council chairman should now be publicly claiming he is SLPP and telling people that he has now realized that vice president Solomon Berewa is a better candidate to Ernest Bai Koroma of the APC.
Here again, one would be made to ask as to when exactly did Ali Badara Mansaray woke up to the reality of Solomon Berewa being a better presidential material to that of Ernest Bai Koroma.
But again, Ali Badara Mansaray is now saying that he used the fools to row his boat across the river. The fools are nobody else but those APC stalwarts who supported him to achieve his goal of becoming a councilor in the first place.Coming to it again, one might be tempted to share in the misgivings of Ali Badara Mansaray. After all he has seen that with the battle lines drawn between the APC’s heavy weights, there is little chance that they can make any headway in the coming (2007) elections.
Since Ali Badara Mansaray is a political animal who wants to ensure that he stays with the winning team that will guarantee his protection, he is convinced that a party at war with itself can certainly not guarantee this.Although one might aptly interpret the action of moving over to support the SLPP of vice President Berewa as blatantly treachery and immoral politically, one would not have expected the APC to resort to fighting so as to evict Ali Badara Mansaray as the chairman of that council. The reason being if Ali Badara Mansaray has given his total support to the ruling government, it will be very difficult to fight him.
Additionally, the APC would have reasoned whether there is any constitutional provision to justify asking Ali Badara Mansaray to resign as the chairman of that council because he denounced the APC and is now a front liner for Vice President Berewa.We are all aware of the substantial gains of the All People Congress during the local council elections in 2004. The fact that people in western area, particularly Freetown voted overwhelmingly for the APC in that local elections was manifestation of the fact that they had lost confidence in the SLPP government to bring any improvement in their lives. The victory was caused by the rebellion of those SLPP supporters who registered but refused to vote.
Power struggle
This being the case one would have expected that the APC, having taken control of the Freetown municipality would have worked hard to effect some positive changes and consolidate their gains.One does not need to over emphasize that the power struggle that has been prevailing between the APC leadership and the above mentioned local council chairmen leaves no room for thinking about any development. Certainly, people can agree with us that Freetown is now worst than it ever was. So the question is what are the mayor and the rest of the councilors doing? Our understanding is that in the assessment of cities by World Bank, Freetown City woefully failed in all the aspects the city was assessed for.Although the mayor has often given the flimsy excuse that this government has been denying the council the needed funding, the established fact of the mater is that APC has not had its house in order for far too long now and they should be thinking of putting their act together.
Subject: Re: Tough challenge for opposition parties/ From MUSA KAL.
From: Musa Kal
To: All
Date Posted: 14:24:00 11/01/06 ()
Email Address: muskalawa@yahoo.com
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This was a well equipped report/ text.
However, what would your take be on this?
To kick Koroma out or to persuade the other fighters to put all differences aside, and resolve to a lasting settlement of the mention issue of APC party.
If today another leader is appointed or elected to the APC leadership, will he/ she be able to stair this party (APC) to a tough battle that lies ahead with the incumbent party SLPP under the leadership of Solomon Berewa? Is this not an act of betrayal or a manual witch hunt against “the liberator to be” Mr. Koroma of the APC.
Why are people self centered and stuck-up? As I may understand, if under the leadership of Ernest Koroma, the APC was able to capture over 87% of the council seat in the western area/Freetown region, is that not an indication of a strong leadership? Remember this slogan: empty container carries the loudest noise on a vessel.
What will this political begot that has vowed to fight this man to the very end stand to benefit the nation of Sierra Leone or APC it self?
I admire the man's courage in standing against their will. With this mentality, is it not their thirst for power questionable by the people of Sierra Leone?
Isuggest it is time to back away from all this political disgust, become a true party stalwart of you choice and leave Ernest Koroma alone.
For the ongoing insult is nothing but an orchestrated effort by the SLPP government to continue it effort to hang on to power regardless of it repeated failure to the people of Sierra Leone.
Just look at their monkey trick they are coming out with; few months ago, VP Berewa coasted on the pretext of donating LE 200,000,000 to youth. Is this money he actually sweats for? NO it's not. This is moneys that originated from series of areas Donors, taxes, well over due development funds for youth programs. Why now generously just close to election? I urge everyone, if he dishes money out like that; don’t be fool by such flamboyant generosity. Take the money and eat as there is no sin towards it, after all if there is, he will be the one to bear it.
I also understand that on his campaign trip to the north of kabala, he manage to stop by a town call Kamabai and claim that his origin was from there, that he don't know how he end up being a southerner. He further stated that the word Berewa was transform through the passage of time for the word "BIRIWA" of which the chiefdom was name. Lately it was understood that he went to some area in KONO district and did the same.
Does this man know how to play politics? The answer is NO he does not.
Therefore, why can’t this infighting stop within the APC and other parties so that true democracy will be given a fresh start in the land of Sierra Leone..!!
I like enjoying a clean bout, not a fight with hidden agenda.
Remember the fight between IRON MIKE TYSON & HOLLYFIELD? Tyson knew he was loosing the bout, so his hidden agenda was to bite Evanda’s EAR OFF; Just another coward looser.
Word for the wise is quiet sufficient…………..LONTA
Subject: For Mr. Mohamed Jalloh/Mr. Formeh Kamara
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 13:55:46 10/31/06 ()
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Dear Mr. Jalloh:
First, I do not really need you to commend me for anything, certainly not when you seek to use my own words to insult the individual I have endorsed as my personal choice for our next president. And for the future, please note that the last thing I need is a phony commendation.
Second, I have not engaged in “correctly discerning Mr. Berewa's” so-called “lack of character” in his allegedly “keeping silent”. Please do not jump and to rush conclusions. And please, never attempt to speak for me. Please go ahead and do your analyses without appearing to put words in my mouth. Thank you very much.
For your information, I have posted in this forum on more than one occasion that Mr. Berewa has spoken out publicly about his plans for his presidency and has also publicly responded to issues the public is unhappy about. I traveled with him in Kaffu Bullom and Lokomasama chiefdoms, Port Loko Town, Lunsar and to other towns in Port Loko District and in several chiefdoms and towns in Kono District in May 2006.
VP Berewa said repeatedly in public during that trip that in effect that Rome was not built in a day; that enormous damage and destruction were inflicted upon the country by the AFRC, RUF and by previous governments and that the SLPP government admits that not everything it has done has turned out right. So, he repeatedly declared, those good things done by President Kabbah, he will continue. Those plans, policies and programs that did not pan out, he will discontinue. In addition, he’ll introduce new plans, policies and programs to advance the public interest – if elected.
What more do you want him to say or do? Criticize the government in public? Have a public fight or disagreement with President Kabbah? Condemn President Kabbah’s leadership publicly? Chastise him? Crucify his president?
Have you ever heard the phrase which says something like: “discretion is the better part of valor”?
Next, please note that the current SLPP government has committed no atrocities of any type whatsoever against anyone, certainly not against the people of Sierra Leone.
Additionally, there is not a single flaw in my contention that Sierra Leone has a Presidential system of government in place and that the responsibility and authority to govern is Mr. Kabbah’s, and Mr. Kabbah’s alone; not Mr. Berewa’s. Mr. Berewa is merely vice to the incumbent president. And it is the president who is in charge and who calls the shots every single time when on duty.
Mr. Berewa is available to work but only under the supervision and authority of Kabbah. He is not on his own. He is not an independent agent. His principal is Kabbah. And that is the dispositive issue on this matter and nothing else you may seek to peddle.
What more do you want me to say?
Moreover, nothing I have said so far is illogical in any way, shape or form, as you have arrogantly boasted. What is illogical is in fact your Simple Simeon argumentation as follows:
“…………Which begs the dispositive question that lays bare your illogical position, viz.
(Jalloh 3.) “Mr. Leigh, are you telling us that V.P. Berewa has "absolutely nothing to do with the current SLPP Admin?"
My response to the above rubbish question is as follows: the only thing laid bare dispositively is your ignorant questions and illogical conclusions as set forth below:
(Leigh 3.) I have never told you or anyone anything about VP Berewa having "absolutely nothing to do with the current SLPP Admin". I have, in fact, said repeatedly that Mr. Berewa is the VP in the current SLPP Administration. Clearly, your question here is not intelligent at all. It is superfluous and a complete waste of my time!
Next, you posited that:
(Jalloh (a)) “If so, is the current SL government in which Mr. Berewa is Vice President not an SLPP government?”
(Leigh( a)) It is not so. Here again is another dunce question from you. You are wasting my time with your series of frivolous questions. Please cease your boring irrelevant questionings. I am tired of them. The information you seek is clearly in the public domain and I have never said anything to the contrary. How can I? Why waste people’s time asking dumbo questions when the answers are obvious?
You persisted, foolishly pressing for the kill which, of course, is not going to happen, thus:
(Jalloh (b)) “If not, how can Mr. Berewa not be responsible for the atrocities committed, without objection from him, by the SLPP government of which, by your explicit admission, he is a faithful second-in-command -- when your own standard for escaping liability for the SLPP administration is that YOU "have absolutely nothing to do with the current SLPP Admin?"
My knockout punch to your above flunky argumentation and dunce question is as follows:
(Leigh (b)) First, not a single atrocity has ever been committed by the current SLPP government, let alone “atrocities” as you have falsely alleged again - and very boastfully so. You are overreaching in your excessive exaggerated accusations. Please go check your dictionary and look up the word ATROCITY. Then match it with any specific provable act of the current SLPP government that you deem matched the definition and publish it in this forum for all to see.
Second, Mr. Berewa is free to object to wrong-headedness but he does not have to do so in public. How do you know that Mr. Berewa has never made his opinions on public matters known to Mr. Kabbah in private? You are frequently just too reckless in rushing to jump to stupid conclusions, willy-nilly.
Third, I have not set any “standard for escaping liability for the SLPP administration” for myself or for any other individual as you have arrogated to yourself. I merely gave Mr. Alie Formeh Kamara the facts that I am not a part of the current administration. It is not a standard. It is a fact in the public domain. Go check and find out how standards are set or established before wasting the precious time of forumites.
Last but not least, I have made no explicit admission that Berewa is a faithful second-in-command as you categorically and falsely stated. He might very well be, but here again you are jumping once more to a needless foolish conclusion. Mr. Berewa’s state position and his official relationship with President Kabbah are in the public domain. Someone like me does not have to admit to anything about Mr. Berewa’s status or his official relations or relationship with Mr. Kabbah. All are public knowledge! Certainly, I do not have to ‘explicitly admit’ to any of the rubbish you constantly dish out. Thank you. Goodbye. - JL
Subject: Re: For Mr. Mohamed Jalloh/Mr. Formeh Kamara
From: Allie Rainbow
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Date Posted: 20:02:33 10/31/06 ()
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Yair Klein, a renegade Israeli colonel, was convicted on arms smuggling charges by a Jerusalem court. At the time he was sought as a fugitive by the Colombian
government, which accused him of arming and training private armies on behalf of the Medellin drug cartel. In 1998, a Colombian court indicted Klein on charges of
terrorism.
According to authorities in Sierra Leone, "Klein was in the employ of Charles Taylor from January 1996 through August 1998" He was also accused by the United
Nations as a person responsible for training and Arming Foday Sankoh's Feral RUF.
However, when Klien was arrested in Freetown on 25th January 1998 he was allegedly released on orders from Mr.Berewa who was Attorney General..
.Based on your analysis of our Presidential System of Government,Are you implying that the War Criminal Klien could have been released on the orders of
President Kabba and Mr. Berewa may have privately objected to the "Wrong Headedness of the President?
Furthermore, Considering that you were the Country's Ambassador to the USA in 1998,What was your own position on record regarding the release of the
Accused War Criminal Yair Klien?
Subject: Re: For Mr. Mohamed Jalloh/Mr. Formeh Kamara
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 10:31:51 11/01/06 ()
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Dear Mr. Allie Rainbow:
Let me start by acknowledging that I have the highest respect for the way you have raised relevant issues for discussions in this forum as well as the logical and reasonable way you have argued your case even though I do not always agree with your position.
Take the Col. Klien case.
I was the individual who instigated the whole arrest by passing intelligence from Monrovia to President Kabbah at the hight of the discomfiture with the January massacre in the Western Area.
Klien was immediately arrested and detained without charges. At some point he escaped and was re-arrested in Kent and detained again. All this was beginning immediately subsequent to the combined RUF/AFRC/NPFL invasion of Freetown in January 1999.
The Isreali Ambassador visited me at the SL Embassy and pleaded that Klien not be executed if found quilty. I passed the info to President Kabbah. Prez Kabbah asked me to tell the Isreali Ambassador that he will keep that in mind if the evidence warrents prosecution.
Subsequently, Klien was released on the basis that there was insufficient evidence to prosecute. Apparently, the information provided by my informers in Monrovia were not corroborated by independent evidence.
To allege that Klein was a 'war criminal' is excessive. He was never convicted in Sierra Leone and if he was convicted in Columbia, Columbia never requested SLeone to extradite him even though I briefed the Columbian Ambassador about Klien' arrest and detention.
Obviously, both the president and his attorney-general discussed the matter and I am sure that under our presidential system President Kabbah had the final say in the non-prosecution and release of Col. Klein.
Thanks for your querry. - JL
Subject: Re: For Mr. Mohamed Jalloh/Mr. Formeh Kamara
From: Allie Rainbvow
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Date Posted: 10:49:52 11/01/06 ()
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Thanks for the response Mr.Leigh,However,I do not think that "alleging that Klien is a War Criminal is excessive,
Considering that in the New Global Order,People who aid,abett,and Finance Terrorists are deemed Culpable under
International Law;
Subject: Re: For Mr. Mohamed Jalloh/Mr. Formeh Kamara
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:31:07 11/01/06 ()
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Dear Mr. Allie Rainbow:
My point was Klien was not convicted. Only upon conviction can one call him a war criminal. Until then he is merely an "alleged war criminal". - JL
Subject: Re: For Mr. Mohamed Jalloh/Mr. Formeh Kamara
From: Allie Rainbow
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Date Posted: 15:12:21 11/01/06 ()
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OK Mr. Leigh,technicalities aside,what worries most Sierra Leoneans is the Fact that Kabba,Berewa and the SLPP
Government,allowed this goon the benefit of the doubt,whilst a local hero like Chief Norman was subjected to the
indignities of a War Crimes Trial by the Special Court.
Subject: Re: For Mr. Mohamed Jalloh/Mr. Formeh Kamara
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:30:26 11/01/06 ()
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Dear Mr. Allie Rainbow:
I agree with the people's unhappiness with the plight of Chief Norman. Perhaps, Chief Norman may be found not guilty by the Court and set free. Or he might be pardoned later as provided for in the Sp.Court agreement, by the present president or by the in-coming president, in the event he is convicted.
It is always a depressing situation when a genuine national hero is punished rather than celebrated. But lets hope and pray that the celebrations recognizing Chief Norman's contributions to our liberation from the yoke imposed on us by the AFRC/RUF and Taylor are merely delayed, not forfeited. Thank you. -JL
Subject: Re: FOR MR. JOHN LEIGH AND MR. ALLIE RAINBOW
From: Mohamed A. Jallloh
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Date Posted: 06:45:33 11/01/06 ()
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Allie Rainbow wrote to John Leigh on October 31, 2006:
"Based on your analysis of our Presidential System of Government,Are you implying that the War Criminal Klien could have been released on the orders of President Kabba and Mr. Berewa may have privately objected to the "Wrong Headedness of the President?"
Allie Rainbow:
While you -- and I, separately -- await John Leigh's respective responses to your question quoted above and mine set forth in my posting yesterday, kindly permit me to point out the fallacy in Mr. Leigh's implied defense of Vice President Berewa's dereliction of his duty as a public official (by alleging that Mr. Berewa has performed his public duties in advising President Kabbah only in private, when they entailed objections to the latter's policies).
The questions that Mr. Leigh should answer -- but which he probably would not, because they would expose his position as lacking merit -- are very simple, viz.
1. If V.P. Berewa gave President Kabbah advice privately, and the latter acted contrary to that advice, how is the public supposed to be informed regarding Mr. Berewa's alleged objection to the president's policy(ies) when Mr. Berewa refuses and fails to publicly set forth his alleged opposition thereto?
2. Or, is Mr. Leigh's conveniently non-committal suggestion that Vice President Berewa may have objected to President Kabbah's administration only in private, designed to allow Mr. Berewa to have his cake and eat it too in regard to the 2007 presidential election?
3. Specifically, is Mr. Leigh positioning Vice President Berewa to claim -- without requisite evidence -- that he has not been a faithful follower of his boss and benefactor, President Kabbah, so that he could avoid duly taking responsibility for the atrocities committed by the SLPP against the people of SL under an SLPP administration of which VP Berewa reamins second-in-command?
Subject: Re: FOR MR. JOHN LEIGH
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 14:34:16 10/31/06 ()
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Mr. Leigh:
Thank you for your attempted reply -- albeit, unresponsively -- to my very simple questions. Regrettably, rather than duly answering the questions, you elected, sadly, to vainly seek to evade them with a veritable potpourri of boorishness, name calling, bluster, misrepresentation, illogicality, disingenuity and, most surprisingly, plain rudeness.
With due respect Ambassador Leigh, that is not a display worthy of a former member of the diplomatic corps of SL. Indeed, it is not worthy of a gentleman, and most certainly, it is not worthy of an educated person, be he a gentleman or not.
Rather than indulging in that atrocious behavior -- hopefully, you now understand the meaning of the word, atrocity, in the particular context in which I had used it and which, unfortunately, appeared to beffudle you, kindly permit me to humbly offer you the following advice:
Please be advised that the proper response to a question is an answer.
So, in the interest of offering you a second chance to redeem yourself from the atrocity you committed here in your surprisingly unresponsive and indecorous reply to my questions, I am hereby gracefully offering you a second consecutive oportunity to simply -- and, hopefully, respectfully -- answer my rather simple questions.
For your plainly necessary guidance, my questions #3, and #3(a), which are reproduced hereunder for your ease of reference, require a simple "yes" or "no" answer. Here is the relevant section of my initial posting directed to you:
"However, in the interest of accuracy, kindly permit me to point out a fatal self-contradiction underlying your claim that neither you nor V.P. Berewa bears responsibility for the atrocities committed by the SLPP government against the people of SL.
1. You claim, reasonably, that you are not responsible for "the wrongheaded direction the country has been heading" under SLPP misrule because you "have absolutely nothing to do with the current SLPP Admin."
2. Yet, you simultaneously imply that Vice President Berewa also is not responsible for "the wrongheaded direction the country has been heading" under SLPP misrule.
Which begs the dispositive question that lays bare your illogical position, viz.
3. Mr. Leigh, are you telling us that V.P. Berewa has "absolutely nothing to do with the current SLPP Admin?"
(a) If so, is the current SL government in which Mr. Berewa is Vice President not an SLPP government?
(b) If not, how can Mr. Berewa not be responsible for the atrocities committed, without objection from him, by the SLPP government of which, by your explicit admission, he is a faithful second-in-command -- when your own standard for escaping liability for the SLPP administration is that YOU "have absolutely nothing to do with the current SLPP Admin?"
I look forward to your belated responsive -- and hopefully decorous -- answers to the above simple questions.
Subject: Re: FOR MR. JOHN LEIGH
From: Moijue
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Date Posted: 16:10:50 10/31/06 ()
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LET JEL go and read the TRC report then he will apologise to us for his assertion that Berewa is Mr Innocent.
Subject: Re: FOR MR. JOHN LEIGH
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 10:47:03 11/01/06 ()
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Dear Moijue:
I never said Mr. Berewa is Mr. Innocent. I said SLPP has not committed any atrocity against the people of Sierra Leone. Thanks. -JL
Subject: Re: FOR MR. JOHN LEIGH
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Date Posted: 13:06:08 11/01/06 ()
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H=-John Leigh says: "I never said Mr. Berewa is Mr. Innocent. I said SLPP has not committed any atrocity against the people of Sierra Leone."
Mr. Leigh, do you agree that condemning saleoneans to life without regular drinking water is an atrocity committed by the slpp against the people of Sa Lon?
Would you not agree that condemning saloneans to a life without electricity for the past 8 years of SLPP is an atrocity against the people of Sa Lon?
Don't you agree that theft of money belonging to the people of Sa Lon and other acts of corruption committed by slpp public officials are atrocities committed against salone peopel by the slpp government?
Subject: Re: FOR MR. JOHN LEIGH
From: Patriot
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Date Posted: 05:14:03 11/01/06 ()
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Even if John Leigh went and read the TRC report, he would not change his assertion that Berewa is innocent of SLPP atrocities. the reason is, Mr. Leigh is blinded to the truth by his personal ambition. Or, to paraphrase Leigh's revealingly selfish rationale that he used in relation to Berewa's blind support of his benefactor, President Kabbah:
John Leigh "must remain loyal to his [vainly anticipated] president [Berewa] both in the interest of stability and in appreciation for the opportunity he has received from [vainly anticipated] Mr. President [Berewa]."
So, it is clear from Mr. Leigh's selfish actions that he cares most for only himself and not much for his country. Just like Berewa. And just like Kabbah. Or, to put it generally, just like the SLPP, whose hidden motto is: Put your party's interest above your country's interest.
Subject: Evidence of V.P. Solomon Berewa's Unfitness to Lead SL
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 08:24:25 10/31/06 ()
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[The folowing recent exchange is presented here, courtesy of SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, in the coninuing effort to inform fellow S/Leoneans about issues related to the 2007 elections in our country. For reason of privacy, the name of my correspondent has been redacted].
With my due apology for the unavoidable delay in responding, I now in a position to reply to your question quoted above. > For the benefit of our readers, kindly permit me to identify "the four priorities areas identified in the PBC Chairman's summary": "Social and youth empowerment and employment; Consolidating democracy and good governance; Justice and security sector reform, and Capacity building." In short, [Name Redacted], you are asking me to respond to the UN commission on behalf of the SL government -- a task that I hereby humbly accept with one caveat: I will be guided in my response exclusively by the interest of the people of SL. Here goes: > In other words, as long as the government of SL is in the hands of demonstrably clueless leaders like President Ahmad Tejan Kabbah and Vice President Solomon Berewa, no economic plan aimed at alleviating pervasive poverty for millions of S/Leoneans -- however well conceived -- will survive their incompetent and corrupt administration. Clearly, therefore, if the goal is to develop SL's vast economic potential, and thereby alleviate the needless poverty of millions of hapless S/Leoneans, the first step towards the achievement of that goal is to legally remove the fatal impediments to it -- the current incompetent and corrupt regime of President Kabbah and Vice President Berewa. > So, what evidence do I have for my position that both President Kabbah and V.P. Berewa constitute fatal obstacles to SL's development? It is of the very best kind -- their own voluntarily written words. For example, their following expressed thoughts are taken from the SL government's recent response to the United Nations' PBC's Chairman. It was delivered by Vice-President Berewa (the numbered captions are mine). [START EXCERPT] 1. Lack of Self-esteem, leading to helpless dependence on demonstrably harmful IMF and World Bank policies for SL's development: "We have opened the economy and now enjoy macro-economic stability; our exchange rate has remained stable over the last few years; we have maintained a programme with the Bretton Woods institutions; indeed the growth rate of 7+% we have generated over the last three years, sums up our economic performance." > 2. Lack of Self-awareness of the corrupt nature of the SL government and the consequences thereof. "We estimate, for example, that about 25 % of aid to the country by-passes government channels; making it difficult to maintain a coherent policy in many areas covered by such aid. This is all the more serious because our government structures are still weak. A useful partnership would require support to government capacity building efforts instead of strengthening parallel structures with resources which tend to have better capacity because of access to resources." ... "Some development partners require the issuance of no objection for even the approved project items with thresholds which are as low as US$80,000. i.e. government would require the approval of some task manager for the funding of a sub-project that cost as low as that amount. Project whose implementation period should last only two - three years would therefore last for as long as five – six years. " "An even more serious problem we face is the development of what ends up as a parallel system of government by donors. Let me explain. Donors finance what they think is civil society to undertake activities that the government should normally do but cannot, or do so with difficulty, because of weak institutions. I say "think" because we know that with limited job opportunities, the enterprising graduate just needs to set up an NGO. To the unsuspecting and sometimes naïve international organization or donor, this qualifies him for immediate access to money and a infour-wheel drive. Overnight, the status of an insignificant organization in a small office with extremely limited membership and without the mandate of the people quickly changes. Indeed, there is now what can be described as an "NGO industry" in Sierra Leone and I am sure this is true of other post-conflict countries." "What is really scary is that the limited trained people we have tend to gravitate towards this industry, thus depriving our fledgling institutions of much needed qualified people. Furthermore, these groups are accountable only to their limited membership and to the donors that finance them." "Will this increase confidence in the institutions of government, or will the public now wait for the next report of another member of civil society to present findings on another subject? Please do not misunderstand me, we have no objection to genuine members of the Civil Society complementing Government's effort in providing services to the public, or even acting as lobby groups or as checks to excesses or abuses alleged to be perpetuated by government officials. "What I am saying is that there should be a balance between spending money on Non-formal Institutions and the strengthening of government institutions in a way that reflects the responsibility carried by these institutions. Clearly, government is mandated by the people to carry out State responsibility." [END EXCERPT] In closing, kindly permit me to note that, if, after nearly ten years of escalating corruption and incompetence, the leaders of the current government of SL do not understand that they are responsible for their own actions, it is time to relieve them lawfully of their clearly unbearable burden. That is the only hope for the long overdue alleviation of the needless poverty that Mr. Kabbah and Mr. Berewa have wantonly inflicted upon millions of their fellow S/Leoneans over the past decade or so of their demonstrably incompetent and corrupt administration. I hope that the above information adequately answers your very interesting question. Best regards, Moh'm Subject: Re: Evidence of V.P. Solomon Berewa's Unfitness to Lead SL Message: At a two-day conference of donors and financial experts that wound up on Thursday, the new peacetime government pledged to continue on the path of economic reform but said it was unable to pay back Liberia¡¯s external debt arrears of US $3.5 billion. "There is a need for a debt waiver for Liberia, and in order to do this the government must carry out a reform of its economic and monetary programs and constantly engage our international financial partners like the IMF and the World Bank to assist us in putting together policies and programs that would qualify us for the Highly Indebted Poor Countries (HIPC) Initiatives," Finance Minister Antoinette Sayeh said on Thursday. Subject: FOR MR. FORMEH KAMARA Message: In your last posting supporting Mr. Albert Moinina in his kind admonition to me not to expose myself to any situation whereby I may drown, you indicated that I have changed the positions I had publicaly advocated. Accordingly, you alleged that I am a flip-flopper. I don't know what you mean by a flip-flopper. You might in time define what you mean. But probably, it might be because I endorsed Mr. Berewa rather than either of the two others of our presidential candidates. My understanding of a flip-flopper is someone who changes his mind on a given public position when there are no change in circumstances or in the sorrounding situation or in knowledge. Thus, had I changed my public positions on the matters I have articulated against the current administration during the past three or four years, you could be right. The fact is you are dead wrong. I have not changed a single idea or position of mine. I stand today for what I campaigned for during the few months we were allowed to campaign. I also remain faithful to what I have publicly argued on-line and in the local press. It is my intention to seek reforms within my party along the lines of my advocacy. So you need not fear a change of heart on my part. And I picked VP Berewa as my choice for president because I consider him far superior in all respects to both of the other two aspirants. Besides, we are both members of the same party. Merely because I criticized an individual does not mean I can not endorse him for president and must endorse someone I hold in extremely low esteem. Or do you really expect me to endorse someone from the APC given what I know about that bad group which remained silent throughout the AFRC/RUF regime and the war they unleashed upon our suffering people? I don't think so. Thanks for your concerns. - JL Subject: Re: FOR MR. FORMEH KAMARA Message: The obvious conclusion that can be reasonably drawn from his record and his public statements is that he is a man who will give more of the same that Kabba gave. Indeed he is an educated man but is education alone sufficient to qualify him for the position of President? I think not. Do writing good speeches qualify a man to be a good leader? I think not. I will rather support a strong union man or an accomplished businessman, half as educated as Berewa, but intelligent, rational, fair, accommodating, loving, eager to learn from others, one who puts his country first and does not look down on people. Sierra Leoneans, in many quarters, are wailing because of the atrocious policies and practices of your SLPP administration. The Biriwa Limba people are engaged unnecessarily in a court battle against your government for imposing a Mandingo as Chief in Limba Land. This is a crime. Pupils at St. Joseph’s secondary School suffered a week without going to school because even the Catholic Church got disgusted with your government’s action of politicizing the administration of schools that the Arch Bishop Ghanda had to say enough is enough. The list goes on and on and no where do you see or hear Berewa’s views on these and other very burning issues confronting the people. If you think the crisis created by your government is isolated to St. Joseph’s wait till you learn about the crisis your government has also created at my almamater, Saint Francis Secondary School, Makeni. The fact remains, from your statements that you called the SLPP convention a ‘conbention’ and we have no reason to disbelieve you. After all the evidence is stacked sky high that Berewa and the SLPP administration are a bunch of crooks. BUT THE DAY WILL COME WHEN THEY WILL PAY. Stay clean and free yourself from the shackles of tribal politics. You don’t have to be an SLPP. Subject: Re: FOR MR. FORMEH KAMARA Message: Even so, I'd like to make two points clear. First, I hold no brief for the current administration. As you know, I was expelled years ago from this government probably because I complained about the wrong direction I suspected the country was heading. I did not like it then; I do not like it now. Since April 2001, I have made known my concerns about government action I deemed hurtful to our people/country. At first, I did it privately. And after I was rudely told by an APC transplant in Bo to shut-up and go back to America, I decided to go public locally instead. Therefore, to now lump me in with the current governing group is not right because I am not one of them. For your information, there is a large body of SLPPers who are very disturbed with the current state of affairs in our country. Those are the people I am working with to help bring reforms to the next SLPP Administration rather than cut, run and split my party. Once again, I have absolutely nothing to do with the current SLPP Admin. Accordingly, your statement that "Sierra Leoneans, in many quarters, are wailing because of the atrocious policies and practices of YOUR SLPP administration", is not entirely correct because I have stood out, up front, again and again, expressing my concerns about the wrongheaded direction the country has been heading. Second, I am supporting Mr. Berewa because I genuinely believe he will take the country in a better direction. I have carefully considered the record of his rivals candidates and their political parties before and after Makeni. I never rushed in backing anyone. Over eight months, I re-toured the entire country four more times - a month each time - after Makeni to understand the pulse of the population before deciding to endorse my choice. My support for Mr. Berewa is based on my objective evaluation of my personal knowledge of him, the strength of the SLPP and Mr. Berewa's ideas for the future relative to those of his rivals. Your opposition to him because he has not delinked himself from his president, nor spoken out against him is not based on realism. He cannot delink himself from his president because he is the sitting VP who must remain loyal to his president both in the interest of stability and in appreciation for the opportunity he has received from Mr. President. Mr. Berewa cannot be seen to act as an ungrateful wretch. He has to be sensible and avoid in our unstable country something like the on-going political mess in Nigeria where the VP and his president are publicly feuding, scandalizing their country and party. Of course, it is possible that reforms in SL under the in-coming dispensation will not materialize and I would have wasted my time and damaged my reputation. But let's face it, no one knows what the future holds. And at present I prefer to take that risk rather than support Mr. Berewa's rivals. Thank you for your attention. - JL Subject: Re: FOR MR. FORMEH KAMARA Message: Mr. Leigh: I commend you for your candor in correctly discerning Mr. Berewa's lack of character in keeping silent, in order to keep his position as Vice President, in addition to "the interest of" conveniently unspecified "stability," while millions of his fellow "Sierra Leoneans, in many quarters, are wailing because of the atrocious policies and practices of YOUR SLPP administration" headed by his benefactor, President Ahmad Tejan Kabbah. However, in the interest of accuracy, kindly permit me to point out a fatal self-contradiction underlying your claim that neither you nor V.P. Berewa bears responsibility for the atrocities committed by the SLPP government against the people of SL. 1. You claim, reasonably, that you are not responsible for "the wrongheaded direction the country has been heading" under SLPP misrule because you "have absolutely nothing to do with the current SLPP Admin." 2. Yet, you simultaneously imply that Vice President Berewa also is not responsible for "the wrongheaded direction the country has been heading" under SLPP misrule. Which begs the dispositive question that lays bare your illogical position, viz. 3. Mr. Leigh, are you telling us that V.P. Berewa has "absolutely nothing to do with the current SLPP Admin?" (a) If so, is the current SL government in which Mr. Berewa is Vice President not an SLPP government? (b) If not, how can Mr. Berewa not be responsible for the atrocities committed, without objection from him, by the SLPP government of which, by your explicit admission, he is a faithful second-in-command -- when your own standard for escaping liability for the SLPP administration is that YOU "have absolutely nothing to do with the current SLPP Admin?"
--- In SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, "onemohm"
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> on Oct 21, 2006, [Name Redacted]wrote:
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> > How could efforts from this forum add value to efforts at the objectives of the four priorities areas identified in the PBC Chairman's summary?"
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> In the interest of accuracy, I am also obliged to note that your question above replicates substantially the very question posed by the Chairman of the PBC to the government of SL, namely: "Members of the Peacebuilding Commission invite the Government of Sierra Leone to move forward, with support from the United Nations system and other partners, on strategies and plans for addressing the critical peacebuilding issues identified above, based on comprehensive analysis and a mapping of existing activities."
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> As you may know from my related published critique of the government of SL's signature "plan" for the development of SL, the so-called Poverty Reduction Strategy Paper (PRSP), I do not believe that the current government of SL has the capability to develop, plan, implement, and evaluate a sound plan for the development of SL. For a detailed presentation of this case, please see my 20o5 article entitled "Why the Sierra Leone Government's Poverty Reduction Strategy Will Fail"
> http://news.sl/drwebsite/publish/article_2005879.shtml
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> It is from the opening paragraph of that article that the following statement is offered as the short answer to your question: "One of the first lessons taught to new computer users is "garbage in, garbage out." It is a lesson that the government of Sierra Leone will painfully – and needlessly -- inflict upon the long suffering people of SL if it continues to allow itself to be fooled by the IMF and the World Bank by implementing the latest fraud perpetrated by those two foreign institutions against our country – the cynically misnamed "Poverty Reduction Strategy Paper."
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> "Recent assessments by the IMF, World Bank, and our key bilateral partners have all praised the progress we have made while encouraging us to go even further."
> --- In SALONEDiscussion@yahoogroups.com, [Name Redacted]@ wrote on Oct 21, 2006,:
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> > Dear Moh'm J
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> > Thanks for the contribution, Moh'm.
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> > How could efforts from this forum add value to efforts at the objectives of the four priorities areas identified in the PBC Chairman's summary?
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> > Thanks and kind regards,
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From: JOHNSON-SIRLEAF
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Date Posted: 08:48:12 10/31/06 ()
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MONROVIA, 14 Jul 2006 (IRIN) - With more than half of Liberia¡¯s children out of school and all but five percent of the country¡¯s health centres flattened by war, the government is calling on the IMF and the world bank to prepare them for the HIPC program.
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 19:26:31 10/30/06 ()
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Dear Mr. Formeh Kamara:
You cannot expect me to endorse the candidate of another party. Do you really? Do you expect me to endorse or be seen with a form four flunky who is foolishly trying to hijack the Third Force and who has surrounded himself with people of despicable character?
From: Alie Formeh Kamara
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Date Posted: 21:45:11 10/30/06 ()
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Unlike you, your man Berewa was silent throughout while Kabba sailed the ship of state into troubled waters. You wanted us to believe that Berewa was silent because Kabba was a dictator. I guess because you now support him, you want us to believe that if he becomes President he would be different. Unfortunately, the record does not verify a history of active participation nor does it distinguish him. Even in his public statements, he has yet to de-link himself and distinguish himself from Kabba so as to show the general public how he would do things differently. What is he afraid of? Why is he taking Sierra Leoneans for granted?
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 10:11:37 10/31/06 ()
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Mr. Formeh Kamara, thank you very much for your impassioned statement. I feel your deep concern for the difficult state of affairs in our country, including the unhappy situation in your chiefdom, Biriwa Limba Chiefdom.
From: Mohamed A. Jalloh
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Date Posted: 11:03:43 10/31/06 ()
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John Leigh writes on October 31, 2006:
"Your opposition to [V.P. Berewa] because he has not delinked himself from his president, nor spoken out against him is not based on realism. He cannot delink himself from his president because he is the sitting VP who must remain loyal to his president both in the interest of stability and in appreciation for the opportunity he has received from Mr. President."
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